Nature: instructions for use | Andrea Bariselli | TEDxMilano
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0:05 - 0:07Somewhere, along our way,
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0:08 - 0:11we began to confuse comfort
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0:11 - 0:12with happiness.
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0:13 - 0:16Modern life, today,
is an endless shower of stimuli. -
0:16 - 0:19And the human brain
is extremely receptive -
0:19 - 0:21to all the stimuli coming from outside.
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0:21 - 0:24It is the result of adaptation, survival.
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0:24 - 0:29But despite this, since 2010,
human beings have become -
0:29 - 0:31what can be considered an urban species.
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0:31 - 0:33That is, most of us, more than half of us,
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0:33 - 0:35live in an urban context, i.e. in cities,
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0:35 - 0:41and it's estimated that around 90 percent
of Americans' and Europeans' time -
0:41 - 0:43is spent indoors, inside.
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0:43 - 0:47This audience today, all sitting here,
we are a great representation of this. -
0:47 - 0:49And the other 10 percent of the time,
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0:50 - 0:525 percent is spent in traffic.
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0:53 - 0:56Anyone from Milan
knows this situation all too well. -
0:56 - 0:59And there's an interesting
secondary effect, on top of that. -
0:59 - 1:02Our brain wasn't designed
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1:02 - 1:06to receive such a high quantity
of memory stimuli. -
1:06 - 1:08And all this is changing it.
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1:08 - 1:09It's changing its structure.
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1:09 - 1:12The brain is changing,
according to a rule called plasticity, -
1:12 - 1:15both in terms of its structure,
and also its size. -
1:15 - 1:19Because it's paradoxically smaller
than that of our ancestors. -
1:19 - 1:22And the question is whether
we were really designed for all this. -
1:22 - 1:24Namely, if the biological design
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1:24 - 1:27that nature and evolution
created for us was this, -
1:27 - 1:30i.e. staying sitting down
for a good chunk of the day. -
1:30 - 1:35In fact, this puts us
in a state of captivity. -
1:35 - 1:37The city has become
a hostile environment. -
1:37 - 1:41The explanation is probably
both anthropological and evolutionary. -
1:42 - 1:44Homo Sapiens, when it becomes a species -
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1:44 - 1:45bad news,
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1:45 - 1:50our main goal in mind
wasn't happiness, but survival. -
1:51 - 1:54So Sapiens developed
all those defense mechanisms: -
1:54 - 1:58fear, the sense of alertness,
the sense of danger. -
1:58 - 1:59That's all it needed
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1:59 - 2:02to react to the outside world.
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2:04 - 2:06Why am I telling you this?
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2:07 - 2:08Because I deal with the brain.
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2:09 - 2:12We spend our workdays
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2:12 - 2:15studying all those feelings and emotions
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2:15 - 2:17that happen in consumers' brains.
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2:17 - 2:19And as I was saying a moment ago,
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2:19 - 2:2110 years ago, at a conference,
I met a colleague -
2:22 - 2:25who showed me the first
portable electroencephalogram. -
2:25 - 2:26This incredible device
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2:26 - 2:31that allows us to see, through our waves,
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2:31 - 2:33what's happening in the brain.
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2:33 - 2:34It seems like trivial news:
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2:34 - 2:37but up until not so long ago,
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2:37 - 2:39the electroencephalogram
was a device filled with wires, -
2:39 - 2:43where life was, somehow,
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2:43 - 2:45simulated inside rooms.
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2:45 - 2:47And for the past ten years
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2:47 - 2:50we've tried to use this device
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2:50 - 2:53to do tests on humans
in their real lives, -
2:53 - 2:57i.e. when they do something
within their own lives. -
2:57 - 3:01This has allowed us, today,
to have two offices in Italy -
3:01 - 3:04and an office abroad,
in San Francisco, California. -
3:05 - 3:07And we've become experts
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3:07 - 3:10in Real Life Experiences,
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3:10 - 3:11that is, in measuring
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3:11 - 3:15what's happening in a person
while they go about their daily life. -
3:15 - 3:17We do it for several corporations,
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3:17 - 3:19from food to fashion,
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3:20 - 3:24cars, travel and more.
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3:24 - 3:26They ask us to find out
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3:26 - 3:29what happens inside us
when we do something. -
3:30 - 3:33But what are they asking for?
What characterises us? -
3:33 - 3:37The most extraordinary thing
about our species: -
3:37 - 3:38emotions.
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3:38 - 3:40Emotions are the greatest gift
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3:40 - 3:43that nature and evolution
have left us as a legacy. -
3:43 - 3:44They're at the same time
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3:44 - 3:47both the simplest
and the most complicated thing -
3:47 - 3:49we can experience.
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3:49 - 3:51Even now, if I asked you
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3:51 - 3:55to describe for me, in one word,
or in a few concepts: -
3:55 - 3:57what is emotion?
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3:57 - 3:58What are emotions?
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3:58 - 4:00How do emotions feel?
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4:00 - 4:02Where do we feel them?
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4:02 - 4:04How do we feel anger,
where and how is it produced? -
4:04 - 4:07An emotion, to be defined as such,
needs two components: -
4:08 - 4:11one is your brain -
I hope everyone's got one here, -
4:11 - 4:15and one is your body,
and I see you've all got those. -
4:15 - 4:20This makes us men and women
with an extraordinary gift, -
4:20 - 4:21which is that of emotions.
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4:22 - 4:24But, there is a "but".
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4:25 - 4:28By studying people's emotions,
over the years, -
4:28 - 4:30we also came to realise
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4:30 - 4:34that human beings, slowly but surely,
are losing their serenity. -
4:35 - 4:38We are, in a way, getting sick.
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4:38 - 4:41We are getting sick from something
which is our own illness, -
4:41 - 4:45that is to say, the modernity and comfort
that we've created ourselves. -
4:45 - 4:48And they're starting to give us
a series of problems, -
4:48 - 4:49that we all know about.
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4:49 - 4:53We've learned so much about modernity,
about technology, cement, cities. -
4:54 - 4:57And paradoxically,
the remedy for this disease -
4:57 - 5:00is something extremely simple,
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5:00 - 5:02and we saw it just by measuring it.
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5:03 - 5:04Imagine a treatment,
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5:05 - 5:08one that's easy to perform,
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5:09 - 5:12free of known side effects,
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5:13 - 5:18which improves the functioning
of your cognitive system, -
5:18 - 5:21and above all is free,
even if you can't get it on the NHS. -
5:21 - 5:24There is one, and it's called nature.
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5:24 - 5:26For hundreds of years,
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5:26 - 5:28people have taken care
of themselves with nature, -
5:28 - 5:29it's nothing new.
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5:29 - 5:31But the real question
we asked ourselves was, -
5:32 - 5:33what kind of nature?
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5:34 - 5:35Do they all work the same way?
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5:35 - 5:38All the people who are walking
in a park today, -
5:38 - 5:40who see and enjoy a beautiful day,
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5:40 - 5:42are all of them experiencing
the same emotion? -
5:42 - 5:45All the people who go
to a forest in the Dolomites - -
5:45 - 5:48and many of you spend
their holiday to the countryside - -
5:49 - 5:51What's the real emotion you feel?
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5:51 - 5:54And above all, can we freeze it?
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5:54 - 5:55So that this emotion
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5:55 - 5:57can be conveyed to someone else?
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5:57 - 6:00Measured, understood in some way?
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6:00 - 6:02Because if we can understand things,
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6:02 - 6:05we also manage, in some way,
to intake and share them. -
6:05 - 6:08And to do this, we started doing
a series of research activities, -
6:08 - 6:10as this subject is very dear to us.
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6:10 - 6:15And to do it again, I would like
to make you my colleagues. -
6:15 - 6:17We're all colleagues right now.
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6:17 - 6:20You are all neuroscientists,
you've all received an honorary degree. -
6:20 - 6:23I'll tell you how the brain works.
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6:24 - 6:26The brain has three small superstructures
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6:26 - 6:31that started to develop through evolution,
one on top of the other. -
6:32 - 6:35There's the cerebellum,
the famous cerebellum, -
6:35 - 6:39which is the home, how might we put it,
of our instinctive reactions; -
6:39 - 6:42and the limbic system, directly above it,
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6:42 - 6:44which was created,
and maybe not everyone knows this, -
6:44 - 6:46when we became a species,
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6:47 - 6:48and is the home of our emotions.
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6:48 - 6:51When we started to become a species,
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6:51 - 6:53and communicate with each other,
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6:53 - 6:56we also needed to do it through emotions,
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6:56 - 6:57and read them on others.
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6:57 - 7:01And lastly, only at the end, very late,
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7:01 - 7:05came the cortex,
which is the rational system. -
7:06 - 7:09The much-vaunted rationality,
and superior thought. -
7:09 - 7:11It only turns up very late on.
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7:11 - 7:14In reality, we are interested
in the last two, those ones below, -
7:14 - 7:16basically the ones that decide things
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7:16 - 7:18and care little about what you think.
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7:18 - 7:21It's these ones, when you're
outside a shop, here in the centre, -
7:21 - 7:23and there's a pair of shoes -
you don't want them, -
7:23 - 7:26but actually that one below
had already decided for you -
7:26 - 7:28that your credit card
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7:28 - 7:30is about to come out of your wallet
so you can buy them. -
7:32 - 7:36I want to give you two examples:
let's get back to nature, the core thing. -
7:37 - 7:40Two interesting examples
of how this nature works. -
7:40 - 7:43And the first of these examples -
i.e. nature on the brain - -
7:43 - 7:45the first example is Madagascar.
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7:46 - 7:48This extraordinary land.
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7:48 - 7:51And in this example,
in this particular scenario, -
7:51 - 7:56I want to talk you about encounters
between wild nature and men. -
7:56 - 7:58This is a picture I took,
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7:58 - 8:01both to show you how easy it is
to take a picture today, -
8:01 - 8:04but actually also to show
how beautiful Madagascar is. -
8:04 - 8:06For this project
we brought, for one week, -
8:06 - 8:08a group of people, volunteers,
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8:08 - 8:11who underwent this incredible torture,
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8:11 - 8:13who came with us,
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8:13 - 8:17and we visited
many different environments: -
8:17 - 8:19the mangrove rivers -
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8:19 - 8:25we went to very white beaches, forests
still untouched by human activity. -
8:25 - 8:27So with them, we tried to find out
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8:27 - 8:31the impact different types of nature
really had on them. -
8:31 - 8:34We went by pirogue,
we did some extraordinary stuff. -
8:34 - 8:35We tried to experience,
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8:35 - 8:38in the most appropriate way
and with minimal impact, -
8:38 - 8:40what this reality was.
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8:41 - 8:43To better understand
what the results were, -
8:43 - 8:48I want to make you my colleagues again
and explain how to read them. -
8:48 - 8:53Let's talk about an index
that's called frontal asymmetry, -
8:53 - 8:57which is when there's
a polarisation of waves -
8:57 - 8:59in one lobe rather than in another.
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8:59 - 9:02When these waves - in this case
alpha waves - emitted from our brains, -
9:03 - 9:05are found on the left
of your frontal lobes, -
9:06 - 9:10subjects were experiencing
a positive attitude, -
9:10 - 9:12towards whatever they were experiencing.
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9:12 - 9:17When waves were to the right,
the attitude is negative, repulsion, -
9:17 - 9:19that is, they are somewhat
[uncomfortable]. -
9:20 - 9:22And, wait for it, of all the experiences
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9:22 - 9:24that these people
experienced in one week, -
9:24 - 9:30the two experiences with the highest rate
of, let's call it, discomfort, -
9:30 - 9:33the mangrove river and the Lokobe forest
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9:34 - 9:37were the experiences they liked the most.
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9:38 - 9:41That doesn't seem that much,
but try to imagine the forest. -
9:41 - 9:43It isn't a comfortable place.
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9:43 - 9:46There were snakes, I saw them for real.
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9:46 - 9:48Six-metre boa constrictors,
sleeping under the trees, -
9:48 - 9:51insects, humidity - discomfort.
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9:51 - 9:54Anything humanly -
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9:54 - 9:56in this room, you're sitting comfortably,
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9:56 - 9:58it's actually particularly complex there.
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9:58 - 10:02But look, that was
the most striking result. -
10:02 - 10:04We tried to investigate thoroughly,
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10:04 - 10:06and find out what happened
in their brains, -
10:06 - 10:08while they were in the forest.
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10:08 - 10:11And we did that with two indexes.
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10:11 - 10:14The first is the cognitive load,
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10:14 - 10:19that is, how much effort
their rational part tried to use -
10:19 - 10:22to understand, comprehend
the environment around. -
10:22 - 10:24And on the other hand,
the involvement, engagement, -
10:25 - 10:27i.e. their capacity to feel at ease.
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10:28 - 10:31During the first part of their time there,
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10:32 - 10:35the humans - our testers, in this case -
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10:35 - 10:37spent about an hour
working out where they were. -
10:38 - 10:41Working out if it was dangerous,
whether they had to stay alert. -
10:41 - 10:46Do you remember? Our brain
is optimized for fear and survival. -
10:46 - 10:49But after an hour in the forest,
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10:49 - 10:53their cognitive commitment
mysteriously collapses, -
10:53 - 10:58and makes room, instead,
for emotional involvement. -
10:58 - 11:01It's like, at a certain point,
the brain had said: -
11:01 - 11:04"Hey, calm down.
That's as bad as you can get". -
11:04 - 11:07The decibels only come
up to a certain point, -
11:07 - 11:10we have the animals
catalogued in some way, -
11:10 - 11:13the people here
are somehow not dangerous ... " -
11:13 - 11:17It began to implement
a series of mechanisms -
11:17 - 11:20as if it felt at home.
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11:20 - 11:23And the result is so striking
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11:23 - 11:26that it even managed
to outclass places like this. -
11:27 - 11:30This is the beautiful Nosy Iranja.
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11:30 - 11:33It's a strip of sand linking two islets,
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11:33 - 11:36that appears and disappears
with the rhythm of the tides, -
11:36 - 11:39and I really wanted to show you
in order to emphasise -
11:39 - 11:42how hard the week
we spent in Madagascar was. -
11:42 - 11:43(Laughter)
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11:43 - 11:46I swear: none of us, in our team, wanted -
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11:46 - 11:48one morning we fought
about going to the beach. -
11:48 - 11:50It was really complicated.
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11:50 - 11:52We're those little ones there.
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11:52 - 11:54It's an aerial photo taken by a drone.
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11:56 - 11:58Enough beaches, let's move on.
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11:58 - 11:59Let's talk about ...
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11:59 - 12:00Honey!
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12:00 - 12:03When nature ends up on the plate.
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12:04 - 12:06Honey is an extraordinary substance.
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12:06 - 12:09A gift that's made for us
by these tiny beings, -
12:09 - 12:12which - to digress,
a piece of news I read yesterday: -
12:12 - 12:1650 percent of the honey harvest this year
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12:16 - 12:18will be lost due to climate change.
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12:19 - 12:20Honey is disappearing!
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12:21 - 12:24And, in addition to this,
perhaps not everyone here knows -
12:24 - 12:27that one honey in two
of those sold on the market -
12:27 - 12:28comes from abroad.
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12:28 - 12:29In Italy, of course.
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12:29 - 12:32So they come from China
or other Eastern countries. -
12:34 - 12:37And 75 per cent of honey
found in major retail stores -
12:38 - 12:43isn't honey, but a mixture
of sugars, flavourings, molasses, -
12:43 - 12:46which makes it smell and taste
like honey, but it's not honey! -
12:47 - 12:4875 per cent,
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12:49 - 12:52I mean, it deserves a talk of its own,
to tell you all about it. -
12:52 - 12:56And, in addition, what makes it
even more complicated, -
12:56 - 13:00is that the real product,
honey from bees, -
13:00 - 13:03it's about three times as expensive
than the fake honey. -
13:03 - 13:05And the question we asked ourselves,
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13:05 - 13:09but also that different beekeepers'
associations have asked us, -
13:09 - 13:11precisely concerning this problem, is:
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13:11 - 13:14is our brain able, spontaneously,
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13:14 - 13:18to tell an authentic product
from a fake one? -
13:18 - 13:19That is, are we able
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13:19 - 13:22to recognise a product
which comes from nature, -
13:22 - 13:24compared to a product
created in a laboratory? -
13:24 - 13:26So we took another group of consumers,
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13:26 - 13:31subjected them to the umpteenth
test to see how it worked, -
13:31 - 13:35and we took three samples of honey,
comparable by type, -
13:35 - 13:38only the last one,
organic honey, being real. -
13:38 - 13:40And we asked them to taste those sample,
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13:40 - 13:43and then we asked them
to express a conscious preference, -
13:43 - 13:48to tell us which one was their favourite,
if they noticed some kind of difference. -
13:48 - 13:49Clearly it was a blind test,
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13:49 - 13:52none of them knew which was the real one,
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13:52 - 13:53nor the purpose of the test.
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13:53 - 13:55And in the meantime we measured.
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13:55 - 13:56When explicitly asked,
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13:56 - 14:00none of them express an overall
preference for the real honey - -
14:01 - 14:03I mean, the bee-made one.
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14:03 - 14:05But look what happened
inside their heads: -
14:06 - 14:09the electroencephalogram,
i.e. their most instinctive part, -
14:10 - 14:14manages to pick out the real honey
10 out of 10 times! -
14:15 - 14:19As if our brain knew things
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14:19 - 14:22that we ourselves
aren't able to understand! -
14:22 - 14:24More, much more:
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14:24 - 14:28the real honey managed
to stimulate areas - -
14:28 - 14:31like the temporal one,
which we see lit up here, -
14:31 - 14:33which is the home of our memories,
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14:33 - 14:37pleasant activation,
harmony with what's happening. -
14:37 - 14:40And even made waves, called Theta waves,
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14:40 - 14:45which are typical of meditation
and deep relaxation. -
14:45 - 14:46Honey!
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14:46 - 14:47And it's incredible,
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14:47 - 14:50something that not even the consumers
managed to recognise. -
14:52 - 14:54What am I getting at with this?
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14:54 - 14:58There's so much out there to discover.
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14:58 - 15:02Today it's like we're looking out
at this huge edge -
15:02 - 15:05which lets us see a little further,
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15:05 - 15:08a little closer to the whole planet,
the bigger picture. -
15:08 - 15:12And for our whole lives, we carry around
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15:12 - 15:17the most wonderful and complex system
that the Universe has created, -
15:17 - 15:19which is our brain.
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15:19 - 15:26Still, our ignorance on this complex topic
is abysmal: we know nothing. -
15:26 - 15:30And only in the last few years
have we managed to shed some light -
15:30 - 15:34on what its rules are,
its systems, its mechanisms. -
15:34 - 15:37And there's a simple reason
for this scientific delay: -
15:37 - 15:41in order to study complex systems,
you need computers. -
15:42 - 15:43Thanks to technology,
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15:43 - 15:48today we can study huge amounts of data
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15:48 - 15:50that weren't manageable before.
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15:50 - 15:53In reality, it's like we're saying
that only thanks to technology -
15:54 - 15:57can we now recover
the oldest part of ourselves. -
15:57 - 15:59Including contact with nature.
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15:59 - 16:03So our wish, our dream, for all this
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16:03 - 16:05is that our efforts, however modest,
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16:06 - 16:09may be part of a collective effort.
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16:09 - 16:12Of a collective will to be able to see
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16:12 - 16:14what marvels take place inside our brain
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16:14 - 16:17and what a marvel,
despite what's happening, -
16:17 - 16:19human beings are.
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16:19 - 16:20Because basically,
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16:22 - 16:24by trying to protect
what's around us, and love it, -
16:24 - 16:26we'll feel the desire to make it ours.
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16:26 - 16:28And just by trying to save
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16:28 - 16:30our relationship
with nature and the world, -
16:30 - 16:32we'll try to save ourselves a little too.
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16:33 - 16:35Thank you.
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16:35 - 16:38(Applause)
- Title:
- Nature: instructions for use | Andrea Bariselli | TEDxMilano
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This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community.
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In this talk Andrea Bariselli, neuroscientist and psycologist, shares his discoveries about how the brain reacts in different natural environments and stimuli. Today is in fact possible to meter the emotional and cognitive reactions to a product or an experience.
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