Play, passion, purpose - Tony Wagner at TEDxNYED
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0:08 - 0:10So how many of you are educators, past, present, or future?
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0:10 - 0:11Raise your hands.
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0:11 - 0:13Good. I'm in the right place.
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0:13 - 0:16I'm a recovering high school English teacher.
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0:16 - 0:17True story.
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0:17 - 0:18How many of you mentor young kids?
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0:18 - 0:19Raise your hands.
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0:19 - 0:22I'm definitely in the right place.
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0:22 - 0:27For 25 years, we've heard about failing schools
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0:27 - 0:29and the need to reform our schools.
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0:29 - 0:31Anybody who wanted to reform school?
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0:31 - 0:33Raise your hands.
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0:33 - 0:35Einstein once said that formulation of the problem
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0:35 - 0:39is often more important than the solution.
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0:39 - 0:41I would like to respectfully suggest our schools
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0:41 - 0:43are not failing; they certainly don't need reforming.
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0:43 - 0:48The system is obsolete and needs reinventing.
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0:48 - 0:49Not reforming.
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0:49 - 0:51What's changed?
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0:51 - 0:52It's simply this.
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0:52 - 0:55Knowledge today is a commodity.
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0:55 - 0:58It's free. It's like air. It's like water.
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0:58 - 1:00How many of you have been on the Khan Academy website?
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1:00 - 1:01Raise your hands.
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1:01 - 1:03Yeah, most of you. Right, you know.
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1:03 - 1:06You know the quality of education people can receive
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1:06 - 1:08on that if they're willing to take the initiative.
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1:08 - 1:12How many of you had to memorize the periodic table
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1:12 - 1:13in high school? Raise your hands.
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1:13 - 1:15Ah, everybody! Good.
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1:15 - 1:17So, how many were there again?
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1:17 - 1:19No wait, I'm sorry, I didn't hear that.
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1:19 - 1:20Whatever number you came up with is wrong,
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1:20 - 1:23because two more were added last week.
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1:23 - 1:25And planets, are we up one or down one?
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1:25 - 1:27I don't know, I haven't checked my news feed today.
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1:27 - 1:29And let's see, let's have a contest.
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1:29 - 1:32Why don't you recite the 50 state capitals from memory
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1:32 - 1:36while I google them? Let's see who's quicker.
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1:36 - 1:37Knowledge is a commodity.
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1:37 - 1:40The world no longer cares whether or not
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1:40 - 1:41you're smarter than a fifth grader
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1:41 - 1:43or how well you do to triple your pursuit.
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1:43 - 1:46What the world cares about is not what you know,
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1:46 - 1:50but what you can do with what you know.
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1:50 - 1:54And that is a completely different education problem.
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1:54 - 1:56Then the question becomes,
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1:56 - 2:00Do you have the skill and do you have the will
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2:00 - 2:03to use the knowledge you have acquired?
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2:03 - 2:07Okay, I gotta tell you a kind of an intellectual journey I've been on.
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2:07 - 2:092005, I read "The World is Flat" by Friedman.
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2:09 - 2:10How many have read that book?
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2:10 - 2:11Scared the heck out of me.
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2:11 - 2:13Because as you know, he describes a world
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2:13 - 2:15where increasingly any job that can be routined
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2:15 - 2:18is rapidly being offshored or automated.
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2:18 - 2:21White collar, blue collar, doesn't matter.
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2:21 - 2:23Talked to him recently, interviewed him for the new book.
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2:23 - 2:24He said, "I got one thing wrong in that book."
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2:24 - 2:26I said, "What was that?"
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2:26 - 2:29He said, "The pace of change is happening so much faster."
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2:29 - 2:32So I worried about what kinds of skills will our young people need
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2:32 - 2:36to get and keep a good job in this new global knowledge economy.
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2:36 - 2:38And in fact are they the same skills they'll need
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2:38 - 2:41for citizenship and for continuous learning?
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2:41 - 2:43So I've interviewed a wide range of innovators, literally,
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2:43 - 2:48from Apple to Unilever, executives, U.S. Army,
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2:48 - 2:50community leaders, college teachers, asking all of them,
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2:50 - 2:54"What are the skills that matter most today? What's important?"
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2:54 - 2:57Came to understand, there's a set of core competences
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2:57 - 3:02every young person must be well on the way to mastery
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3:02 - 3:04before he or she finishes high school.
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3:04 - 3:08Not just to get a good job, but to be a continuous learner
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3:08 - 3:12and an active and informed citizen in the 21st century.
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3:12 - 3:14Very briefly, they are:
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3:14 - 3:16No. 1: Critical thinking and problem solving.
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3:16 - 3:17What do I mean by critical thinking?
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3:17 - 3:19The ability to ask the right questions,
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3:19 - 3:21ask really good questions.
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3:21 - 3:26No. 2: Collaboration across networks and leading by influence.
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3:26 - 3:30No. 3: Agility and adaptability.
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3:30 - 3:34No. 4: Initiative and entrepreneurialism.
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3:34 - 3:40No. 5: Effective oral and written communication.
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3:40 - 3:44No. 6: Accessing and analyzing information.
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3:44 - 3:49and lastly, No. 7: Curiosity and imagination.
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3:49 - 3:52So, a couple things happened when that book came out 3 and a half years ago.
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3:52 - 3:54There's a global achievement gap that Hellman just referred to.
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3:54 - 3:57First of all, I got a kind of affirmation
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3:57 - 3:59from literally, around the world
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3:59 - 4:00that simply stunned me.
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4:00 - 4:04Taiwan to Singapore, to Helsinki, to Madrid,
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4:04 - 4:07and kind of all places in between.
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4:07 - 4:11Thailand, Bahrain, Birmingham, England.
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4:11 - 4:14From Wall Street to West Point,
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4:14 - 4:18people said to me,
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4:18 - 4:21I felt pretty good. Not bad.
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4:21 - 4:23Then the other thing happened.
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4:23 - 4:25Economy collapsed.
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4:25 - 4:27And I saw kids coming home from college,
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4:27 - 4:31seemingly having acquired some, many, most of these skills,
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4:31 - 4:34coming home from college to no job.
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4:34 - 4:35They had the skills.
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4:35 - 4:37Something was missing.
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4:37 - 4:41Right now today, half of all recent college graduates
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4:41 - 4:44are either unemployed or underemployed.
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4:44 - 4:46A third are living at home.
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4:46 - 4:48Maybe some of you in this audience.
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4:48 - 4:51What did I miss? What was wrong?
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4:51 - 4:53Well, as I tried to understand
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4:53 - 4:54the essence of this economic crash,
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4:54 - 4:56I came to understand it's a lot more
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4:56 - 4:59than the credit default swaps we read about,
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4:59 - 5:01a lot more than just a hyper-inflated
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5:01 - 5:03real estate market and so on.
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5:03 - 5:04Here's what I learned.
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5:04 - 5:07Maybe you all know this. I didn't.
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5:07 - 5:11More than 70% of our economy
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5:11 - 5:13What's everybody's biggest fear?
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5:13 - 5:16That consumers will stop spending.
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5:16 - 5:18That's why we lose jobs.
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5:18 - 5:21No. 2, that that consumer spending has been
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5:21 - 5:25increasingly fueled by people going into debt.
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5:25 - 5:27Pulling money out of the house as fast as they could,
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5:27 - 5:29putting money on credit cards as fast as they could.
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5:29 - 5:342007, the savings rate was minus 2%.
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5:34 - 5:36Leading me to conclude
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5:36 - 5:38that maybe what we have done
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5:38 - 5:40is create an economy based on people
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5:40 - 5:43spending money they do not have,
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5:43 - 5:45to buy things they may not need,
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5:45 - 5:49threatening the planet in the process.
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5:49 - 5:51I think it's increasingly clear
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5:51 - 5:54that kind of an economy is not sustainable.
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5:54 - 5:58As Jeremy Cloud said, it's not sustainable environmentally.
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5:58 - 6:00It's not even sustainable economically.
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6:00 - 6:03Right now today, the savings rate is about 4%.
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6:03 - 6:06Consumers are saving
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6:06 - 6:09more than they are spending.
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6:09 - 6:12I don't think it's sustainable spiritually either.
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6:12 - 6:13We need something different.
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6:13 - 6:15So as I tried to understand what's the alternative,
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6:15 - 6:17what's gonna be our niche in the global economy,
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6:17 - 6:19one word appeared over and over again.
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6:19 - 6:21Innovation.
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6:21 - 6:24The idea, not just the major innovations in STEM,
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6:24 - 6:28but becoming a country that produces more better ideas
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6:28 - 6:32to solve more different kinds of problems,
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6:32 - 6:33ideas that generate jobs,
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6:33 - 6:37ideas that other people want and need as solutions
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6:37 - 6:41to real problems, every kind of problem.
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6:41 - 6:43So, you know, America has always been known
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6:43 - 6:45as a highly innovative country.
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6:45 - 6:48But is that because of, or in spite of,
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6:48 - 6:50our education system?
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6:50 - 6:51Important question.
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6:51 - 6:53You know we have infrastructure,
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6:53 - 6:55we spend on our R&D,
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6:55 - 6:56copyright protection laws,
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6:56 - 6:58good immigration policy, until recently.
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6:58 - 7:00What about education?
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7:00 - 7:03Alright, trivia question of the day so fast you won't be able to google the answer.
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7:03 - 7:05What do Bill Gates, Edwin Land,
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7:05 - 7:06the inventor of Polaroid instant camera,
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7:06 - 7:08Mark Zuckerburg a Facebook fame,
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7:08 - 7:10and Bonnie Raitt, the folk singer, all four have in common?
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7:10 - 7:12(Audience) College dropouts.
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7:12 - 7:13Sorry, they were not dropouts,
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7:13 - 7:15they were Harvard College dropouts!
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7:15 - 7:17That's different! Thank you very much.
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7:17 - 7:21You know Steve Jobs is a dropout, Michael Dell is a dropout.
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7:21 - 7:25These guys were Harvard dropouts.
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7:25 - 7:27So I decided to take a different tactic.
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7:27 - 7:31Trying to understand what must we do differently
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7:31 - 7:33to develop the capacities of many more
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7:33 - 7:36of our young people to be innovators.
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7:36 - 7:39What must we do as parents, as teachers,
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7:39 - 7:42as mentors, and as employers.
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7:42 - 7:44Started interviewing a wide range of innovators in their 20s.
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7:44 - 7:46Extraordinary young people.
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7:46 - 7:49Range some from privileged, some from poverty.
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7:49 - 7:51Wide range. All over the country.
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7:51 - 7:54Some in STEM fields, some in arts,
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7:54 - 7:57some were social innovators and entrepreneurs.
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7:57 - 7:59Then I interviewed each one of their parents.
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7:59 - 8:01Trying to understand if there were
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8:01 - 8:04patterns of parenting that I might observe.
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8:04 - 8:06Then I asked each one of them,
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8:06 - 8:07"Is there a teacher or a mentor
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8:07 - 8:11who's made a significant difference in your life?"
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8:11 - 8:13One third of them, one third,
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8:13 - 8:16could not name a single teacher.
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8:16 - 8:18Of the two thirds who could,
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8:18 - 8:20they could name at least one teacher.
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8:20 - 8:21The third that couldn't name a teacher
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8:21 - 8:22could always name a mentor by the way.
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8:22 - 8:23Very important.
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8:23 - 8:26We underestimate the importance of mentoring.
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8:26 - 8:30So I went and interviewed each one of those teachers and mentors.
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8:30 - 8:34And I made, what was for me, a shocking discovery.
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8:34 - 8:36In every single case, the teachers whom I interviewed --
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8:36 - 8:39and I interviewed teachers from elementary school
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8:39 - 8:41The full spectrum.
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8:41 - 8:44In every case, every one of those teachers
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8:44 - 8:48was an outlier in his or her school setting.
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8:48 - 8:51In fact, I went to five colleges.
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8:51 - 8:54Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Carnegie Mellon, Tulane.
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8:54 - 8:56All five of those college teachers
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8:56 - 8:58having produced brilliant innovators and continued to do so,
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8:58 - 9:00none of them had tenure
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9:00 - 9:03nor were they ever going to get tenure.
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9:03 - 9:04What's the problem here?
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9:04 - 9:06Well, what I came to learn
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9:06 - 9:09is that the culture of schooling,
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9:09 - 9:11as we have grown up with it,
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9:11 - 9:15is radically at odds with the culture of learning
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9:15 - 9:19that produces innovators in five central respects.
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9:19 - 9:22No. 1, we celebrate and award individual achievement,
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9:22 - 9:23and sure there's an important place for that,
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9:23 - 9:26but, as you well know, innovation is a team sport.
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9:26 - 9:30And all of these teachers built real, accountable teamwork
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9:30 - 9:33and collaboration in all of their assignments.
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9:33 - 9:36No. 2, we are all about specialization in American education.
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9:36 - 9:38High school, universities are divided and conquered
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9:38 - 9:40by something we call Carnegie units,
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9:40 - 9:43which are 115 years old.
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9:43 - 9:46Chemistry this, biology that, and so on.
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9:46 - 9:48The world of innovation is interdisciplinary.
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9:48 - 9:51And problem-based learning.
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9:51 - 9:53Judy Gilbert at Google, she said to me,
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9:53 - 9:56if there's one thing educators must understand,
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9:56 - 9:59is that problems can no longer be solved
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9:59 - 10:00nor even understood
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10:00 - 10:05within the bright lines of academic disciplines.
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10:05 - 10:09No. 3, the culture of schooling is all about
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10:09 - 10:13risk aversion and penalizing failure.
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10:13 - 10:16Students' job is to figure out what the teacher needs.
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10:16 - 10:17Give the teacher whatever the teacher wants.
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10:17 - 10:19Teacher's job is to avoid trouble, you know.
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10:19 - 10:24We are not encouraged to take risks as educators, right?
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10:24 - 10:27The world of innovation, as you will know,
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10:27 - 10:29is all about taking risks,
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10:29 - 10:31making mistakes, and learning from them.
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10:31 - 10:33I went to IDEO, the most
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10:33 - 10:35innovative design company in the world, they said to me,
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10:35 - 10:40"Our motto is, 'Fail early and fail often.'"
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10:40 - 10:44That's because there is no innovation without trial and error.
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10:44 - 10:47I went to the D School started by David Kelley from IDEO,
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10:47 - 10:50an amazing interdisciplinary program at Stanford.
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10:50 - 10:54They were talking around a table together saying,
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10:54 - 10:56"You know we are actually thinking F is the new A."
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10:56 - 11:01Try selling that report card back at your schools.
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11:01 - 11:02I talked to a student at Owen College.
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11:02 - 11:04Owen is by the way, probably the best
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11:04 - 11:06college in the country right now today.
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11:06 - 11:08Every course, interdisciplinary,
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11:08 - 11:11team based, project based -- extraordinary place.
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11:11 - 11:13Talked to a student at Owen, he said,
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11:13 - 11:16"You know, we don't even talk about failure much here.
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11:16 - 11:19We talk about iteration."
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11:19 - 11:22Heck, I don't think I knew what the word meant five years ago.
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11:22 - 11:25But it's become something so important as a concept to me.
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11:25 - 11:28In learning, there are no mistakes, there are iterations.
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11:28 - 11:29Although I have to ask you, how many of you learn
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11:29 - 11:31more from your mistakes than your successes.
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11:31 - 11:32Raise your hands.
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11:32 - 11:34Yeah, me too. God, that hurt sometimes.
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11:34 - 11:36That's painful.
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11:36 - 11:38But the point is, we protect children
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11:38 - 11:40in school, we protect children at home,
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11:40 - 11:41the helicopter parents hover.
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11:41 - 11:43They don't want their children to make mistakes
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11:43 - 11:47lest their perfect record become blemished in some way.
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11:47 - 11:50But that's the only source of real self-confidence.
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11:50 - 11:52That you can learn that you can recover from a mistake.
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11:52 - 11:54And you don't wanna learn that when you're 35,
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11:54 - 11:57because it hurts a lot more then.
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11:57 - 12:00The fourth one. You know, the culture of learning
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12:00 - 12:03is so much about passive consumption.
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12:03 - 12:05In fact I think that's where we all learn
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12:05 - 12:07to be good little consumers, in school.
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12:07 - 12:10Because we sit and get all day long.
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12:10 - 12:13The classrooms of innovators are all about creating.
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12:13 - 12:16Creating real products for real audiences.
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12:16 - 12:19Lastly and most important,
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12:19 - 12:23we rely on extrinsic incentives for learning.
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12:23 - 12:27Carrots and sticks. Money for good grades.
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12:27 - 12:30The world of innovation, these young innovators,
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12:30 - 12:32every one of them whom I've interviewed,
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12:32 - 12:37was far more intrinsically motivated.
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12:37 - 12:39They want to make a difference in the world.
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12:39 - 12:41And so then when I look back at what these parents had done
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12:41 - 12:43and what these teachers had done to encourage
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12:43 - 12:48this intrinsic motivation, I found another pattern.
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12:48 - 12:52Play to passion to purpose.
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12:52 - 12:55Parents and teachers alike encouraging more exploratory play,
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12:55 - 12:59fewer toys, toys without batteries, less screen time,
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12:59 - 13:04more time that was unstructured. Get out, and play.
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13:04 - 13:07Parents who encouraged students to find and pursue a passion,
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13:07 - 13:10who knew that was more important than mere academic achievement.
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13:10 - 13:14Teachers who encourage students, made time in every class
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13:14 - 13:17for students to do projects, to do research, to do experimentation,
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13:17 - 13:22to find and pursue an intellectual or artistic passion.
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13:22 - 13:25And every case as these kids have developed passions,
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13:25 - 13:27they morphed, they changed, they evolved
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13:27 - 13:30into a deeper sense of purpose.
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13:30 - 13:36Because parents and teachers alike said one thing:
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13:36 - 13:39"Give back. Make a difference."
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13:39 - 13:41And all of them have that value,
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13:41 - 13:45want, in some way, to make a difference.
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13:45 - 13:47So what does this mean for our work?
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13:47 - 13:49Well, we can have a lot of long conversations
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13:49 - 13:51about how the system needs reinventing.
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13:51 - 13:53I've written some things about that.
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13:53 - 13:56But, you know, I come back to what each one of us can do.
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13:56 - 13:59And I come back to the idea that, first of all,
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13:59 - 14:02we have to be innovators in our teaching,
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14:02 - 14:05and in our mentoring. We have to model
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14:05 - 14:08the values, the behaviors of innovation.
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14:08 - 14:12We have to, in our teaching, be willing to take risks.
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14:12 - 14:15Be willing to learn from mistakes.
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14:15 - 14:19Work more collaboratively with our colleagues.
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14:19 - 14:21But I think above all,
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14:21 - 14:24maybe what's most important for me is that I,
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14:24 - 14:28as a teacher and a mentor, now think much more about
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14:28 - 14:30where and how am I encouraging
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14:30 - 14:34the play, the passion, and the purpose
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14:34 - 14:37in everything that I do with the young people.
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14:37 - 14:38Thank you very much.
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14:38 - 14:40(Applause)
- Title:
- Play, passion, purpose - Tony Wagner at TEDxNYED
- Description:
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Tony Wagner recently accepted a position as the first Innovation Education Fellow at the Technology & Entrepreneurship Center at Harvard. He consults widely to schools, districts, and foundations around the country and internationally.
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Milena Tomol commented 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Error in the English subtitle at 1:40:88 . Currently it says "or how well you do to triple your pursuit.". I think it should be: "or how well you do at Trivia Pursuit"
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Milena Tomol commented 14 hours, 32 minutes ago
There is a small inaccuracy in the English subtitles:
Right now it reads:
3:48 So, a couple things happened when that book came out 3 and a half years ago.
3:51.78 There's a global achievement gap that Hellman just referred to.
The second line refers to the book mentioned in the fist line - The Global Achievement Gap written by the speaker, Tony Wagner. http://www.tonywagner.com/69. The speaker simply clarifies which book he is talking about in the previous sentence when he says "that book".
So, the second line should read:
"This is The Global Achievement Gap that Hellman just referred to"