Stranger Things and the Dangers of Nostalgia
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0:09 - 0:15The hit Netflix series Stranger Things is a love letter to iconic pop culture media of decades past.
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0:17 - 0:24The duffer brothers create this spectacle of nostalgia by borrowing liberally from movies and TV shows from the
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0:25 - 0:271970s and 80s.
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0:37 - 0:44They appropriate and masterfully remix everything, from overarching themes to specific plot points
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0:46 - 0:50From lighting techniques to snippets of dialogue
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0:50 - 0:52"You want hurt me"
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0:52 - 0:54"Oh, yeah.. Why not"
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0:54 - 0:58"Because you're a policeman, there are rules for policemen"
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0:58 - 1:00"Because you're a policeman
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1:01 - 1:03Policemen have rules"
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1:04 - 1:07But there are dangers to leaning too heavily on nostalgia,
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1:08 - 1:13because media makers can end up reproducing harmful patterns along with their retro aesthetics.
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1:14 - 1:20This is especially true when it comes to masculinity and romance conventions in popular entertainment.
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1:22 - 1:24Some of the unintended consequences of
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1:24 - 1:30uncritical homage coming to sharp focus with the character of Jim Hopper in season 3 of Stranger Things
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1:31 - 1:36In addition to his new look inspired by Tom Selleck's Hawaiian shirts from the TV show Magnum P.I.,
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1:38 - 1:42Hopper undergoes a sudden and dramatic personality shift.
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1:43 - 1:48He moves from a deeply flawed but introspective character in the first and second seasons
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1:49 - 1:54to an entitled aggressive verbally abusive one for much of the third
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1:54 - 1:56"HEY...
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1:56 - 1:58HEYY!
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1:58 - 2:02WHEN I SAY THREE INCHES! THREE..."
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2:02 - 2:02"Do you knock?...Jeez"
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2:07 - 2:13Hopper's increasingly belligerent interactions with Joyce are particularly troubling.
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2:13 - 2:15"He's not eccentric, he's certiable"
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2:17 - 2:19"Glass Houses stress"
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2:19 - 2:19"What?"
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2:19 - 2:21"You know, pot calling the kettle black."
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2:21 - 2:22"Oh come on"
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2:22 - 2:23"Excuse me."
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2:23 - 2:24"What?"
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2:24 - 2:28"Do me a favor and move your lover's quarrel elsewhere"
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2:28 - 2:30"This: not a lover's quarrel pal"
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2:30 - 2:31"SPARE ME!"
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2:31 - 2:38They're dynamic is borrowed from well-known bickering couples of the 1980s, notably Sam and Diane's love hate
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2:38 - 2:40relationship on the sitcom Cheers
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2:40 - 2:42"Rember the day I said this:
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2:42 - 2:44you are the nuttiest, the stupidest,
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2:44 - 2:47the phoniest fruitcake i have ever met"
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2:47 - 2:50"You, Sam Malone, are the most arrogant, self centered..."
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2:50 - 2:52"SHUT UP! Shut your fat mouth"
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2:52 - 2:53"Make me"
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2:53 - 2:54"Make you?"
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2:54 - 2:58"I... I'm gonna bounce you off of every wall in this office!"
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2:58 - 3:04It's an extremely unhealthy dynamic played off as an endearing form of sexual tension
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3:04 - 3:11Now, I'm not going to be using that term in this video because what is often presented as sexual tension in Hollywood is, in
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3:12 - 3:15reality, red flag behavior for an abusive relationship
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3:16 - 3:20"You know, I always wanted to pop you one. Maybe this is my lucky day"
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3:20 - 3:21"You disgust me"
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3:22 - 3:23"I hate you"
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3:23 - 3:24"Are you as turned on as I am?"
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3:24 - 3:24"More"
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3:28 - 3:35The framing of interpersonal hostility as a precursor to romance didn't begin or end with Cheers
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3:39 - 3:45That pernicious pattern is part of a long tradition in media going all the way back to the Golden Age of cinema
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3:49 - 3:54But in the 1980s love-hate romances could be found everywhere
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3:59 - 4:01"Oh, I think I'm entitled to throw a little anger your way
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4:01 - 4:05Especially when I'm being told how to live my life by Miss Hospital corners"
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4:05 - 4:07"What's that supposed to mean"
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4:07 - 4:11"Don't start with me, all right? I came halfway across Africa to rescue you"
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4:11 - 4:12"Rescue me!
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4:12 - 4:14I was doing fine without you."
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4:14 - 4:16"All right, when we get out of this alive, I'm gonna kill you!"
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4:17 - 4:18"Come on!"
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4:18 - 4:19"You are imagining things"
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4:19 - 4:24"Am I? Then why are you following me, afraid I was gonna leave without giving you a goodbye kiss?"
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4:24 - 4:25"I'd just as soon kiss a wookie"
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4:25 - 4:27"I can arrange!"
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4:28 - 4:36Harrison Ford essentially built his whole career on belligerent romances, especially Indiana Jones
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4:36 - 4:38"What are you supposed to be,
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4:38 - 4:40A lion tamer?"
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4:40 - 4:42"I'm allowing you to tag along.
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4:42 - 4:45So why don't you give your mouth a rest?
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4:45 - 4:47Okay, doll?"
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4:47 - 4:49"What do you mean "tag along"?
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4:49 - 4:51Ever since you got into my club you haven't been able to
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4:52 - 4:53take your eyes off me."
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4:53 - 4:54Oh, yeah?
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4:56 - 5:03To understand why the Duffer brothers decision to pay homage to this particular media convention feels so jarring,
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5:03 - 5:08We need to take a quick look back at Hopper's character arc in the first two seasons.
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5:09 - 5:12Hopper begins the series as a man adrift an
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5:13 - 5:18alcoholic struggling with the unresolved trauma of losing a daughter and a marriage.
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5:18 - 5:23He's resigned to going through the motions of being police chief in a town
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5:23 - 5:25where nothing ever happens
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5:25 - 5:29"On a more pressing matter, Joyce Byers can't find her son this morning"
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5:33 - 5:35"Joyce is very upset"
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5:35 - 5:38"We've discussed this, mornings are for coffee and contemplation"
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5:38 - 5:40"But chief she's in..."
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5:40 - 5:41"Coffee and contemplation."
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5:41 - 5:48He's also a bit of an asshole with a propensity for solving problems by punching them in the face
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5:52 - 5:57Hopper's character arc in season 1 is all about regaining a sense of purpose.
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5:58 - 6:00"Hey, I got something!"
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6:00 - 6:05and through his quest to unravel the mystery around Will's disappearance, he begins to reestablish
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6:06 - 6:08connections with the people around him
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6:09 - 6:11"You were right
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6:14 - 6:16This whole time you were right"
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6:18 - 6:21Season two sees hopper continuing along that trajectory
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6:25 - 6:31He's figuring out how to navigate his own fears while at the same time trying to be a father again
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6:35 - 6:37"'Aight. Get to work"
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6:38 - 6:43He still loses his temper and fails in balancing work with caregiving
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6:43 - 6:46"Hey.. HEY! DON'T WALK AWAY FROM ME!"
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6:46 - 6:53But he has made progress and remarkably he manages not to fall back into alcoholism or face-punching
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6:55 - 6:59He's also learned to treat Joyce's feelings with a measure of sensitivity
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7:01 - 7:07"Nothing's gonna go back to the way that it was, not really but it'll get better
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7:09 - 7:11...in time"
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7:11 - 7:17The last episode in season two gives us this heart-to-heart in which Hopper is openly vulnerable in
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7:17 - 7:19sharing his feelings with Eleven
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7:19 - 7:21"I've just been scared, you know
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7:23 - 7:25that's why I get so...
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7:26 - 7:28mad
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7:30 - 7:37I'm so sorry. I could be so... so... "
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7:37 - 7:38"Stupid"
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7:38 - 7:39"Yeah...
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7:39 - 7:41stupid"
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7:45 - 7:52Now fast-forward to season 3, and all that character development has been thrown out the window in the name of paying homage to the
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7:53 - 7:551980s cowboy cop archetype
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7:55 - 7:57"Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker!"
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7:58 - 8:05But resurrecting that brand of action hero masculinity brings with it a veritable minefield of unhealthy behaviors
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8:11 - 8:18This new hopper is a domineering powder keg who no longer has any patience for the women in his life
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8:19 - 8:24He's obsessed with sabotaging Eleven's teenage romance with her new boyfriend Mike
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8:26 - 8:32"You know, is that smug son of a bitch Mike. He's corrupting her. I'm telling you and I'm just gonna lose it
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8:32 - 8:34I mean, I'm gonna lose it, Joyce!"
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8:34 - 8:36"Just take it down, Hopper."
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8:36 - 8:37"I need for them to break up!"
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8:37 - 8:39"That is not your decision!"
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8:39 - 8:43Joyce, for her part, implores Hopper to calm down and talk it out.
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8:43 - 8:45"I think you should talk to them
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8:45 - 8:48"No, no because talking doesn't work"
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8:48 - 8:50"Not yelling, not ordering
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8:50 - 8:52Talk to them
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8:52 - 8:54You know, with a heart to heart"
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8:56 - 8:58"A heart to heart?
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8:58 - 8:59What is that?"
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8:59 - 9:04And we see her doing a lot of emotional labor for him in an effort to help facilitate a healthy
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9:05 - 9:07heart-to-heart about boundaries
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9:10 - 9:14"So we can build an environment where we all feel comfortable"
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9:14 - 9:20It's all for naught though because this version of Hopper has forgotten how to express his feelings
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9:21 - 9:22"Share our feelings"
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9:22 - 9:27"To sharing our feelings. This isn't gonna work It's not gonna work."
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9:27 - 9:28Yes, it will
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9:28 - 9:33He suddenly can't even fathom the idea of openly communicating with his adopted daughter
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9:33 - 9:38Even though we just saw him doing exactly that at the end of the previous season
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9:39 - 9:41"Maybe I'll just kill Mike
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9:41 - 9:44I'm the Chief of Police. I could cover it up"
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9:45 - 9:52The old overprotective dad trope is played for laughs but it's all about patriarchal control
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9:52 - 9:54"HEY!
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9:55 - 9:58Hey! 3 inches minimum!"
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9:58 - 10:03It's rooted in the idea that young women can't be trusted to make their own decisions and
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10:04 - 10:08therefore need older men to step in and protect them from themselves
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10:15 - 10:21Having devolved into someone who is unable to express himself, except through anger and rage,
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10:23 - 10:27Hopper relies on intimidation to scare Mike into staying away from Eleven.
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10:27 - 10:28"You're crazy!"
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10:28 - 10:30"Crazy?
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10:31 - 10:33You want to see real crazy?"
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10:34 - 10:41This is just one of many instances where he relies on violence or the threat thereof to resolve conflicts
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10:52 - 10:59Consistent with 1980s conventions of tough-guy manhood Hopper's violent outbursts are undertaken in a remarkably casual and
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11:00 - 11:04humorous manner even when engaging in torture or murdering a bunch of people
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11:04 - 11:06"I had it under control"
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11:06 - 11:08"Yeah, sure you did"
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11:09 - 11:15Hoppers aforementioned dysfunctional relationship with Joyce is another example of his dramatic regression
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11:15 - 11:17"You wanna have dinner tonight"
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11:17 - 11:18"I have plans"
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11:19 - 11:21"Okay, sure"
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11:22 - 11:28Even after Joyce says she's not interested, Hopper tries to trick her into a date by pretending it isn't one
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11:29 - 11:34"I'll tell you everything over dinner. I was thinking, you know, Enzo's, tonight
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11:34 - 11:41seven o'clock. Hey, before you say no. I'd like to make one thing crystal clear. This is not a date"
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11:41 - 11:43"Wait, a date?
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11:43 - 11:45You never said anything about a date."
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11:45 - 11:47"I know. I didn't say anything about the date
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11:47 - 11:49I just wanted to clear it up in case there was any confusion on your part"
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11:49 - 11:50"There's not"
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11:50 - 11:52"Great! It's just two friends getting together for a nice dinner"
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11:54 - 11:59When she then doesn't show up for their not-date he becomes angry and resentful
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12:01 - 12:03"Oh, look who it is"
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12:03 - 12:04"We need to talk"
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12:04 - 12:09"Yeah, we do.I haven't been stood up like that since Alice Gilbert in the ninth grade
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12:10 - 12:12What are you doing?"
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12:13 - 12:15Recall that over the prior two seasons
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12:15 - 12:23he learned to respect Joyce's intuition because her ideas about the upside down have always turned out to be correct
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12:24 - 12:29But this new Hopper angrily ridicules her for her investigations into paranormal phenomena
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12:30 - 12:36"I think that when I asked you out, I think you got scared. I think you got scared and now,
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12:36 - 12:41You're inventing things, you're inventing things to get worked up about so that you can push me
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12:42 - 12:45away, because god forbid
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12:46 - 12:47any of us
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12:47 - 12:51move on. That would be too much, wouldn't it, Joyce?"
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12:51 - 12:53His entitlement to a romantic relationship one that Joyce?
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12:55 - 12:59escalates from not respecting her wishes to demeaning her feeling
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13:00 - 13:02and then in fits of jealousy
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13:02 - 13:04trying to police her friendships with other men
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13:04 - 13:06"That's why you should listen to Alexei"
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13:06 - 13:08"Yeah, your new boyfriend, right?"
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13:08 - 13:12"Yes, every man I talk to from now on has to be my boyfriend"
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13:13 - 13:14"He remind me a little bit of Russian Scott Clark."
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13:14 - 13:15"Oh, here we go."
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13:15 - 13:18"Maybe you should go on a date. I don't know. I'm thinking like Enzo's"
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13:19 - 13:24Instead of framing any of this behavior as cause for alarm. It's all written to be part of an endearing
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13:24 - 13:26Will-they-or-won't-they scenarios?
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13:26 - 13:30"What are you gonna do? You are gonna walk back to Hawkins?"
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13:30 - 13:33"I will do anything if it gets me away from you!"
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13:33 - 13:34"CHILDREN!
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13:34 - 13:40Why don't you two cut the horseshit and get to the part where you admit your sexual feelings for one another"
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13:40 - 13:41"WOOO"
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13:41 - 13:43"YOU ARE WAY OFF BASE, BUDDY"
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13:43 - 13:46"OH, SPARE ME! SPARE ME! SPARE ME!"
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13:48 - 13:54When actress Evan Rachel Wood, among others, pointed out the toxicity of Hopper's behavior on Twitter,
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13:54 - 14:00she received an avalanche of defensiveness from fans who simply couldn't see what the big deal was
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14:00 - 14:02"I'll tell you what you do? I'll tell you..."
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14:04 - 14:11Well, it might be entertaining to watch fictional characters verbally sparring with each other, when media frames disrespect and ridicule has
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14:11 - 14:15evidence of romantic interest, it can reinforce the idea that
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14:15 - 14:17mistreatment is a normal part of courtship
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14:20 - 14:26It can also lead people, including authority figures, to dismiss or downplay the seriousness of emotional abuse
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14:28 - 14:30The truth is that
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14:30 - 14:36psychological, emotional, and verbal abuse is just as real and can be just as harmful as physical violence
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14:39 - 14:44Media stories frequently advance the dangerous myth that volatile or
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14:44 - 14:50domineering men just need a special woman to soften their rough edges and temper their aggression
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14:51 - 14:55But intimate partners are often the ones who bear the brunt of men's rage
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14:57 - 15:03Guys like Hopper don't need a relationship, what they need is therapy
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15:06 - 15:14If you were holding out hope that the Stranger Things writers may have been going for some sort of critical commentary, about unhealthy relationships
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15:15 - 15:19the final episode in the season makes clear, that is not the case.
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15:19 - 15:21"You know,
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15:22 - 15:25I think despite everything, I mean, despite the arguing
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15:27 - 15:29I think we make a pretty good team"
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15:29 - 15:36In a page lifted directly from 1980s rom-coms, Joyce ultimately responds to Hopper's belligerent entitled attitude
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15:36 - 15:38by
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15:38 - 15:39asking him out
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15:39 - 15:41"What you say? Friday, 8 o'clock?"
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15:41 - 15:42This plot point then
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15:43 - 15:50perpetuates the idea that controlling or aggressive behavior is somehow a sign of love attraction or passion
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15:50 - 15:51"Just for clarification
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15:51 - 15:53because I... I mean... just.. if
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15:53 - 15:57When you say date, just so that we're crystal clear about things, so"
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15:57 - 15:58"Yeah, Hop?
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15:58 - 16:00Stop talking, or I'll change my mind"
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16:00 - 16:01"Okay.. yeah.. okay"
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16:01 - 16:07It's the kind of twisted logic that can lead people to remain in unhealthy or abusive relationships
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16:08 - 16:10"Live for the day! Go for it, Sam!
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16:10 - 16:12I tell you, go for it!"
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16:14 - 16:21Hollywood writers like to use combative interactions between love interests because it's an easy shortcut to dramatic tension
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16:21 - 16:24but there are many many ways to write interesting conflicts.
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16:25 - 16:29For example, tensions can arise from external pressure on relationships
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16:31 - 16:36Things like shared traumatic experiences, which is something Stranger Things has in spades
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16:37 - 16:43There's no good reason to keep writing romantic tension as something drawn from interpersonal hostility
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16:45 - 16:51When you really think about it, we very rarely see healthy relationship dynamics modeled on screen
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16:52 - 16:58That said, Stranger Things does give us one example of what a positive romantic relationship looks like
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16:58 - 16:59"Hey there"
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16:59 - 16:59"Hey"
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16:59 - 17:02"Do you happen to have this in any other colors?
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17:02 - 17:04I'm not a big fan of orange"
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17:04 - 17:06"I'll just check in the back"
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17:07 - 17:13Bob "the brain" Newby is Joyce's love interest and dad joke aficionado from season 2
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17:16 - 17:21Bob is loving and affectionate. He listens to Joyce and he respects her feelings
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17:21 - 17:23"I know it sounds silly"
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17:23 - 17:25"No, it's not silly.
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17:25 - 17:26It's not silly"
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17:26 - 17:30While still honestly communicating his own wants and desires for the relationship
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17:30 - 17:33"What if we were to move out of Hawkins
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17:33 - 17:35Together"
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17:37 - 17:42This is essentially the exact opposite of how Hopper treats Joyce in season 3,
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17:42 - 17:44"I just, I like you so much
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17:46 - 17:47Not just you
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17:47 - 17:49Everything that comes with you
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17:49 - 17:50your family, your boys"
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17:50 - 17:56Bob's genuinely loving nature is refreshing for male love interests, but it's also very
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17:57 - 18:00unusual, in fact, it's so unusual that we as the audience
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18:01 - 18:08almost automatically assume his compassionate persona must be some kind of trick or a cynical ploy
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18:11 - 18:13"Look at me now, I get to date Joyce Byers
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18:18 - 18:20See it all works out in the end"
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18:20 - 18:21"It does"
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18:21 - 18:29We've come to expect sensitive or loving male characters to ultimately be revealed as either selfish cowards or
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18:29 - 18:31to have secretly been evil all along "
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18:31 - 18:32"I hope
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18:32 - 18:34it doesn't suck"
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18:35 - 18:40If a man does turn out to be as warm-hearted as he initially appears
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18:40 - 18:42"Bob Newby. Superhero"
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18:42 - 18:46He's almost always killed off as a way to up the stakes for the other characters
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18:47 - 18:52"It's the ones like us, that don't punch back, that people really take advantage of
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18:52 - 18:54To rub your nose in it just a little bit more
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18:56 - 18:58I don't know why they do that
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19:00 - 19:02Maybe it makes them feel powerful"
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19:05 - 19:08It's the dysfunctional violent tough guys
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19:08 - 19:15like Hopper who are framed as having what it takes to conquer otherworldly threats and survive
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19:15 - 19:20A trend that helps normalize cultural ideals around aggressive masculinity
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19:23 - 19:31One of the reasons so many people have trouble recognizing abusive behavior is because in popular media, it's often done by the good guys
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19:33 - 19:38These are male characters who are otherwise written to be charming righteous and valiant
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19:40 - 19:47And like abusers in the real world these fictional men don't act in controlling or domineering ways all the time
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19:47 - 19:50their abusive behavior comes in waves,
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19:50 - 19:55often preceded by moments of kindness and then followed by expressions of remorse
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19:58 - 20:03Since Hopper is one of the good guys we're supposed to want him and Joyce to get together in the end
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20:04 - 20:09Despite his rage, his jealousy, his control issues, and his propensity for violent intimidation
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20:10 - 20:13we are nonetheless meant to be in Hopper's corner
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20:15 - 20:18And that's because Jim Hopper is not a one-dimensional cartoon oaf
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20:19 - 20:25We have after all been shown glimpses of his introspective caring and vulnerable sides
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20:26 - 20:28during the two previous seasons.
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20:29 - 20:36There are also a couple scenes near the end of season 3 that are very clearly designed to reinforce to viewers that Hopper really is
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20:36 - 20:38a good guy deep down inside
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20:39 - 20:45The first of these comes when he seemingly gives his life to save the world and the people he cares about
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20:47 - 20:54I'll make a whole video essay about the heroic sacrifice trope in the future. For now though. I'll just say that selfless acts are not
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20:55 - 20:57necessarily a negative thing
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20:57 - 21:04But for troubled male characters, like Hopper the grand heroic death is often written to be a shortcut to redemption
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21:06 - 21:13And a shortcut that doesn't require men to actually do the slow painful work of personal transformation.
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21:18 - 21:22The epilogue flashback at the end serves a similar narrative purpose.
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21:23 - 21:30In this scene, we hear Hopper's inner voice as he mulls over how to share his feelings with Eleven
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21:31 - 21:33"But lately, I guess I've been feeling
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21:36 - 21:38distant from you,
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21:38 - 21:40like you're
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21:40 - 21:42you're pulling away from me, or something"
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21:42 - 21:50The voice-over is meant to remind us that this is a man who is at least capable of being sincere caring and vulnerable.
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21:50 - 21:56The trouble is, good intentions don't mean anything without the follow-through and
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21:56 - 22:01Hopper never actually follows through in having that heart-to-heart with his adopted daughter.
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22:04 - 22:05Like we saw with his apparent death,
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22:05 - 22:12this flashback is designed to absolve Hopper of the emotional damage or harm he caused throughout the season
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22:13 - 22:15All without having him actually
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22:15 - 22:18apologize or make amends for his behavior.
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22:21 - 22:28I want to be clear about something, the problem isn't that male protagonists are sometimes depicted as having anger issues or
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22:29 - 22:31engaging in unhealthy behavior.
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22:31 - 22:37Character flaws are human and therefore a key ingredient in creating stories about relatable people.
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22:38 - 22:41The question is how are those flaws framed?
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22:43 - 22:48Are unhealthy behaviors romanticized excused or rationalized
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22:48 - 22:53or are they presented as cause for serious concern?
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22:54 - 22:58And critically, do these men learn to grow and change over time?
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23:00 - 23:03In action adventure stories like Stranger Things
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23:03 - 23:09we rarely see male heroes learning how to change their behavior, how to effectively communicate
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23:09 - 23:11or how to build and maintain
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23:11 - 23:13healthy relationships
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23:13 - 23:15"What did you say?"
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23:20 - 23:27At the end of season two it appeared as if Hopper might be able to break free from the constraints of 1980s action hero manhood.
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23:28 - 23:36Unfortunately, when media makers rely so uncritically on nostalgia for inspiration, it prevents them from imagining new possibilities
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23:36 - 23:38for male characters.
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23:41 - 23:45As a result, we risk encouraging men to remain stuck in the past
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23:46 - 23:50held hostage to retrograde ideals of masculinity.
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23:53 - 23:56I hope you enjoyed this bonus video on Stranger Things.
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23:56 - 24:03The next video published on my channel will be part two in my series on the sexual assault of men played for laughs in Hollywood.
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24:04 - 24:10So if you like these long form video essays, please consider going over to patreon and helping to fund this project there.
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24:10 - 24:17I've also left a link to Pay Pal in the description below. I really couldn't do this work without your support. So, thank you
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24:17 - 24:19so much
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The hit Netflix series Stranger Things is a love letter to iconic pop culture media of decades past. But there are dangers in leaning too heavily on nostalgia because media makers can sometimes end up reproducing harmful patterns along with their retro aesthetics, especially true when it comes to masculinity and romance conventions in entertainment.
**Spoilers for season 3 of Stranger Things
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Writer/Producer: Jonathan McIntosh
Outro music: Rick Lopez - Video Language:
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- Duration:
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Pop Detective edited English subtitles for Stranger Things and the Dangers of Nostalgia |