Are brains male or female? - Daphna Joel at TEDxJaffa
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0:21 - 0:27Did you know that 15 minutes of stress
are enough to change the sex -
0:27 - 0:29of some regions of the brain?
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0:29 - 0:37From the male form to the female form
or from the female form to the male form? -
0:37 - 0:40I didn't know that either,
but when I discovered this fact -
0:40 - 0:47it transformed the way I was thinking
about sex and brain. -
0:47 - 0:49It all started about four years ago
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0:49 - 0:52when I decided to give a course
on the psychology of gender. -
0:52 - 0:57I stayed home for almost a year
and read books and scientific papers -
0:57 - 1:01on the development of men and women
from the moment of conception. -
1:01 - 1:04As a neuroscientist I was,
of course, interested -
1:04 - 1:07in the relation between sex and brain.
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1:07 - 1:11I soon found out that many scientists,
just like most of us, -
1:11 - 1:15believe that there are
male brains and female brains, -
1:15 - 1:18and that this is the reason
for the fundamental differences -
1:18 - 1:21between men and women.
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1:21 - 1:24According to a very popular version
of this story, -
1:24 - 1:26the female brain
has a large emotion center -
1:26 - 1:32and a large communications center;
it is hard-wired for empathy. -
1:32 - 1:35The male brain, on the other hand,
has a large aggression center, -
1:35 - 1:42and a large sex center;
it is hard-wired for building systems. -
1:42 - 1:48Maybe you thought of something else
but this is a scientific theory after all. -
1:48 - 1:50(Laughter)
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1:50 - 1:54This is a very popular theory or
very popular story, because it gives us -
1:54 - 1:57a very simple explanation
to the world we live in. -
1:57 - 2:02It explains why women are
more sensitive and emotional -
2:02 - 2:04and men more aggressive and sexual.
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2:04 - 2:10Why most teachers are women
and most engineers men. -
2:10 - 2:15Already in the womb, the story continues,
the huge surge of testosterone -
2:15 - 2:18transforms the brain of the male fetus
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2:18 - 2:22from the default female form
to the male form. -
2:22 - 2:29So boys are born with a male brain
and girls are born with a female brain. -
2:29 - 2:33Whereas the notion of
a male brain and a female brain -
2:33 - 2:37fits well the popular view of
men from Mars, women from Venus, -
2:37 - 2:42it does not fit scientific data,
which tell us that men and women -
2:42 - 2:45are remarkably similar.
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2:45 - 2:51In the past 50 years or so,
over 50,000 papers have been published -
2:51 - 2:54on sex differences in psychology.
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2:54 - 2:57I haven't read them all,
even a year is not enough, -
2:57 - 3:03but others have and their conclusion
based on this enormous number of studies -
3:03 - 3:06is that men and women are highly similar
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3:06 - 3:09in almost everything
psychologists can measure. -
3:09 - 3:12Intellectual abilities,
cognitive abilities, -
3:12 - 3:15emotional abilities,
personality characteristics, -
3:15 - 3:18interest and attitudes.
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3:18 - 3:23There are only a few domains in which
consistent sex differences are found. -
3:23 - 3:25For example,
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3:25 - 3:29men are on average, not all of them,
but on average, more aggressive -
3:29 - 3:33than women.
So we call aggression a masculine trait. -
3:33 - 3:36Women are on average
more compassionate than men, -
3:36 - 3:39so we call this the feminine trait.
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3:39 - 3:46But also in these domains
men and women are highly similar, -
3:46 - 3:50and the differences are very small.
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3:50 - 3:56Even more important, we now know
that each of us is a unique mosaic -
3:56 - 4:00of both masculine and
feminine characteristics; -
4:00 - 4:06we are not all masculine
and are not all feminine. -
4:07 - 4:09I guess you already knew that,
not about me, but about yourself, -
4:09 - 4:14that you have a feminine side
and a masculine side. -
4:14 - 4:17I will come back to this image
of ourself as a unique mosaic -
4:17 - 4:20of masculine and feminine characteristics
a little later. -
4:20 - 4:23But now let's go back to the brain.
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4:23 - 4:26Already at the end of the 19th century
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4:26 - 4:29scientists discovered a difference
between the brains of men -
4:29 - 4:31and the brains of women.
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4:31 - 4:35They discovered that the brains of men
were on average larger -
4:35 - 4:37than the brains of women.
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4:37 - 4:41Some scientists took this as evidence
to support and explain -
4:41 - 4:46the then widely held belief
that men are smarter than women. -
4:46 - 4:52One scientist even went as far as stating
that women, because of the small brain, -
4:52 - 4:58do not have the intellectual and academic
skills necessary for academic studies. -
4:58 - 5:01If this logic sounds familiar,
this is not an accident. -
5:01 - 5:04This is the same belief we started with,
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5:04 - 5:07that men and women
are fundamentally different -
5:07 - 5:11because men have male brains
and women have female brains. -
5:11 - 5:17However this is an old version
of the myth, so it sounds absurd. -
5:17 - 5:20Today, when women
not only go to universities, -
5:20 - 5:24but outnumber men
at all level of academic studies, -
5:24 - 5:27it sounds ridiculous
that scientists could have believed -
5:27 - 5:30that women could not go to universities
because their brains -
5:30 - 5:34were on average
smaller than the brains of men. -
5:34 - 5:36Now don't get me wrong, women’s brains
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5:36 - 5:39are still on average smaller
than men brains. -
5:39 - 5:42What has changed is not
the size of the brain; -
5:42 - 5:47what has changed is social norms
and laws that prohibited -
5:47 - 5:51and disencouraged women from study.
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5:51 - 5:54In the more than 100 years
that have passed -
5:54 - 5:57scientists continue
to discover differences -
5:57 - 6:02between the brains of males and females
in both humans and animals. -
6:02 - 6:09For example, compared to men,
women have a thicker cortex, -
6:09 - 6:16a higher proportion of grey matter,
and a lower proportion of white matter. -
6:16 - 6:20Compared to women,
men have larger ventricles. -
6:20 - 6:23These big holes you see in the brain.
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6:23 - 6:28(Laughter)
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6:29 - 6:31I see that some of you
that were very happy to discover -
6:31 - 6:34about the fact
that men have bigger brains than women -
6:34 - 6:38are not really happy with this discovery.
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6:39 - 6:41And I can understand this
because if you believe, -
6:41 - 6:44like the scientists
from the 19th century, -
6:44 - 6:46that the size of the brain matters,
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6:46 - 6:50then indeed you will be embarrassed
to discover that your bigger brains -
6:50 - 6:57come together with the bigger --
what shall we call them? Empty spaces? -
6:57 - 7:02But I want to convey the message
that this is all nonsense; -
7:02 - 7:06men do just fine
with their larger ventricles. -
7:06 - 7:10(Laughter)
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7:10 - 7:16Just as women do just fine
with their smaller brains. -
7:17 - 7:22We now know of hundreds of differences
between the brains of men and women. -
7:22 - 7:25Not just differences in the size
as I've just shown you, -
7:25 - 7:27but also differences
in the microanatomy of the brain -
7:27 - 7:30and I'll show you an example shortly.
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7:30 - 7:33And as more and more differences
have been discovered, -
7:33 - 7:36the belief that there is a male brain
and a female brain -
7:36 - 7:39has become stronger and stronger
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7:39 - 7:43because everyone was taking for granted
the assumption that these differences -
7:43 - 7:49were adding one to the other
as I've depicted in this figure. -
7:49 - 7:53At first this sounded
completely logical to me; -
7:53 - 7:56there are many differences between
the brains of males and females, -
7:56 - 8:01so there must be a male brain
and a female brain. -
8:01 - 8:04But then I read the paper
I told you about in the beginning, -
8:04 - 8:07the one that found that stress
can change the sex of the brain, -
8:07 - 8:11and I realized that this logic was flawed.
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8:11 - 8:14Let's look at this study together.
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8:14 - 8:19In this study the researchers
were interested in the effects of stress -
8:19 - 8:21on a brain region called the hippocampus.
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8:21 - 8:24They measured
the density of dendritic spines. -
8:24 - 8:29You see here a neuron with its dendrite
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8:29 - 8:32and the small red dots
are the dendritic spines. -
8:32 - 8:35And here we can see an actual dendrite
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8:35 - 8:39from a male rat
and a dendrite from a female rat, -
8:39 - 8:42and I added red arrows
so it is easier to detect the spines. -
8:42 - 8:45And we can clearly see a sex difference.
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8:45 - 8:49Males have have fewer spines
compared to females. -
8:49 - 8:53Cherish this moment, this is
the first time you actually get to see -
8:53 - 8:55the sex difference in the brain.
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8:55 - 8:59So we can say dendrites
in this region have a male form -
8:59 - 9:04which is sparse spines
and a female form which is dense spines. -
9:04 - 9:07There was another group of rats
in this study; -
9:07 - 9:09these rats were stressed for 15 minutes;
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9:09 - 9:14as long as this talk, so you can think
what is happening to my brain now. -
9:14 - 9:16(Laughter)
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9:16 - 9:19And here we can see
a dendrite from a stressed male -
9:19 - 9:22and a dendrite from a stressed female.
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9:22 - 9:26Strangely enough,
the dendrite from the stressed male -
9:26 - 9:31has what we have just termed
the female form, that is, lots of spines. -
9:31 - 9:34And the dendrite from the stressed female
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9:34 - 9:39has what we have just termed
the male form, which is few spines. -
9:39 - 9:45So we see that the form of dendrites
in this region depends on sex; -
9:45 - 9:52it is different in males and in females.
But it does not depend only on sex. -
9:52 - 9:56Knowing that the dendrite
you are looking at is from a female -
9:56 - 9:59is not enough
to predict the form of the dendrite. -
9:59 - 10:02whether you have few spines
or lots of spines. -
10:02 - 10:05To predict this you also need to know
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10:05 - 10:09whether this female was under stress
or wasn't. -
10:09 - 10:15So though sex is important it is
interaction of sex and environment, -
10:15 - 10:21in this case stress, that determines
the form of neurons in this region. -
10:21 - 10:25As you may imagine,
I was very surprised by this study. -
10:25 - 10:28So I started to look
for other similar studies. -
10:28 - 10:30It wasn't really hard to find them.
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10:30 - 10:33There were studies reporting
similar effects of stress -
10:33 - 10:38when the stress was experienced in utero,
just after birth and in adulthood. -
10:38 - 10:42There also similar effects
following other manipulations. -
10:42 - 10:47For example, whether the rats were
housed individually or in groups, -
10:47 - 10:50whether they had things to play with
or didn't. -
10:50 - 10:55The different manipulations affected many
brain regions, not just the hippocampus. -
10:55 - 11:00And many features of the brain
such as the size, number of neurons -
11:00 - 11:04and dendritic morphology
as I've just shown. -
11:04 - 11:07What was common to all of these studies
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11:07 - 11:10was the finding that,
whatever the manipulation, -
11:10 - 11:17some features of the brain
changed their sex and some didn't. -
11:17 - 11:20You may be wondering now,
"So what is the meaning -
11:20 - 11:23of talking about
the sex of a brain region, -
11:23 - 11:28if we see that simple manipulations can
reverse what is male and what is female?" -
11:28 - 11:32You are absolutely right,
it is meaningless -
11:32 - 11:35to talk of the male form
and the female form. -
11:35 - 11:37It makes much more sense,
it's much more reasonable -
11:37 - 11:42and rational to use informative terms
such as sparse versus dense, -
11:42 - 11:46high versus low, long versus short.
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11:46 - 11:49But I will continue to use
this male-female terminology, -
11:49 - 11:53because this will help me
make my point clear. -
11:53 - 11:56Let's go back now to the male fetus,
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11:56 - 12:00and to the testosterone surge
that is transforming his brain -
12:00 - 12:07from the female form to the male form,
and not only one component, stress. -
12:07 - 12:12Picture the fetus mother during
the long weeks of pregnancy. -
12:12 - 12:14She sometimes experiences stress,
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12:14 - 12:18not all the time,
but sometimes she experiences stress. -
12:18 - 12:25Whenever she does some features
of her fetus brain change their sex. -
12:25 - 12:29So when her boy is born,
his brain is a mosaic -
12:29 - 12:32of both male and female characteristics.
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12:32 - 12:35This mosaic is uniquely his.
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12:35 - 12:38Molded by the complex interactions
of his hormones -
12:38 - 12:43with the environment
he has been living in up until now. -
12:43 - 12:47The same is true for the female fetus.
Her brain is also molded -
12:47 - 12:51by complex interactions
of hormones and environment, -
12:51 - 12:56so that the little girl is also born
with the mosaic or brain mosaic -
12:56 - 13:00composed of female
and male characteristics. -
13:00 - 13:02So we see that we are already born
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13:02 - 13:06with the brain
which is neither male nor female. -
13:06 - 13:13It is intersex that is a mixture of both
male and female characteristics. -
13:13 - 13:18This, or our, intersex brain will continue
to change throughout our life -
13:18 - 13:23as a result of our unique experiences.
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13:23 - 13:27We can now add to the image of ourselves
as a unique mosaic -
13:27 - 13:29of masculine and feminine characteristics,
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13:29 - 13:33our image of our brain
being a unique mosaic -
13:33 - 13:37of male and female characteristics.
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13:37 - 13:39I will close with this.
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13:39 - 13:44Many people believe that
there are male brains and female brains, -
13:44 - 13:47because this belief gives them
an explanation -
13:47 - 13:50to why men and women are so different,
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13:50 - 13:55and why they should behave differently
and be treated differently. -
13:55 - 13:57I have shown you today
that it is meaningless -
13:57 - 13:59to talk of the sex of the brain.
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13:59 - 14:03Brains do not have sex.
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14:03 - 14:07If you must relate to the brain's sex,
you can call it intersex, -
14:07 - 14:10a mixture of male
and female characteristics. -
14:10 - 14:14There are no male brains
and no female brains. -
14:14 - 14:18Therefore, their existence cannot explain
fundamental differences -
14:18 - 14:21between men and women.
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14:21 - 14:24Which is not really a big problem
considering the fact -
14:24 - 14:29that men and women
are remarkably similar. -
14:29 - 14:32Be yourself.
(Laughter) -
14:32 - 14:33Thank you.
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14:33 - 14:41(Applause)
- Title:
- Are brains male or female? - Daphna Joel at TEDxJaffa
- Description:
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Professor Daphna Joel explores the mistaken concept that brains can be either male or female, thus providing an explanation for why men and women are different. She disputes the theory, displays the neurological data and proves that our brains are really a unique mosaic of male and female characteristics, forming an "intersex" brain.
- Video Language:
- English
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- Duration:
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