The strange politics of disgust
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0:01 - 0:05In the 17th century, a woman named Giulia Tofana
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0:05 - 0:08had a very successful perfume business.
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0:08 - 0:10For over 50 years she ran it.
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0:10 - 0:13It sort of ended abruptly when she was executed — (Laughter) —
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0:13 - 0:18for murdering 600 men. You see, it wasn't a very good perfume.
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0:18 - 0:22In fact, it was completely odorless and tasteless and colorless,
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0:22 - 0:25but as a poison, it was the best money could buy,
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0:25 - 0:29so women flocked to her in order to murder their husbands.
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0:29 - 0:35It turns out that poisoners were a valued and feared group,
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0:35 - 0:39because poisoning a human being is a quite difficult thing.
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0:39 - 0:42The reason is, we have sort of a built-in poison detector.
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0:42 - 0:45You can see this as early as even in newborn infants.
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0:45 - 0:48If you are willing to do this, you can take a couple of drops
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0:48 - 0:50of a bitter substance or a sour substance,
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0:50 - 0:54and you'll see that face, the tongue stick out, the wrinkled nose,
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0:54 - 0:57as if they're trying to get rid of what's in their mouth.
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0:57 - 1:00This reaction expands into adulthood and becomes
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1:00 - 1:04sort of a full-blown disgust response, no longer just
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1:04 - 1:06about whether or not we're about to be poisoned,
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1:06 - 1:09but whenever there's a threat of physical contamination
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1:09 - 1:13from some source. But the face remains strikingly similar.
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1:13 - 1:17It has expanded more, though, than just keeping us away
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1:17 - 1:19from physical contaminants, and there's a growing
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1:19 - 1:23body of evidence to suggest that, in fact, this emotion
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1:23 - 1:26of disgust now influences our moral beliefs
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1:26 - 1:30and even our deeply held political intuitions.
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1:30 - 1:33Why this might be the case?
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1:33 - 1:36We can understand this process by understanding
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1:36 - 1:39a little bit about emotions in general. So the basic human emotions,
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1:39 - 1:43those kinds of emotions that we share with all other human beings,
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1:43 - 1:45exist because they motivate us to do good things
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1:45 - 1:48and they keep us away from doing bad things.
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1:48 - 1:51So by and large, they are good for our survival.
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1:51 - 1:54Take the emotion of fear, for instance. It keeps us away
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1:54 - 1:56from doing things that are really, really risky.
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1:56 - 2:00This photo taken just before his death — (Laughter) —
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2:00 - 2:03is actually a — No, one reason this photo is interesting
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2:03 - 2:07is because most people would not do this, and if they did,
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2:07 - 2:09they would not live to tell it, because fear would have
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2:09 - 2:12kicked in a long time ago to a natural predator.
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2:12 - 2:16Just like fear offers us protective benefits, disgust seems
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2:16 - 2:18to do the same thing, except for what disgust does is
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2:18 - 2:21keeps us away from not things that might eat us,
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2:21 - 2:24or heights, but rather things that might poison us,
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2:24 - 2:26or give us disease and make us sick.
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2:26 - 2:29So one of the features of disgust that makes it such
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2:29 - 2:34an interesting emotion is that it's very, very easy to elicit,
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2:34 - 2:37in fact more so than probably any of the other basic emotions,
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2:37 - 2:39and so I'm going to show you that with a couple of images
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2:39 - 2:41I can probably make you feel disgust.
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2:41 - 2:45So turn away. I'll tell you when you can turn back.
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2:45 - 2:46(Laughter)
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2:46 - 2:50I mean, you see it every day, right? I mean, come on. (Laughter)
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2:50 - 2:51(Audience: Ewww.)
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2:51 - 2:54Okay, turn back, if you didn't look.
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2:54 - 2:57Those probably made a lot of you in the audience
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2:57 - 3:01feel very, very disgusted, but if you didn't look,
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3:01 - 3:03I can tell you about some of the other things that have been shown
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3:03 - 3:06sort of across the world to make people disgusted,
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3:06 - 3:09things like feces, urine, blood, rotten flesh.
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3:09 - 3:11These are the sorts of things that it makes sense
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3:11 - 3:15for us to stay away from, because they might actually contaminate us.
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3:15 - 3:17In fact, just having a diseased appearance
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3:17 - 3:19or odd sexual acts, these things are also
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3:19 - 3:22things that give us a lot of disgust.
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3:22 - 3:25Darwin was probably one of the first scientists
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3:25 - 3:27to systematically investigate the human emotions,
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3:27 - 3:30and he pointed to the universal nature and the strength
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3:30 - 3:32of the disgust response.
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3:32 - 3:35This is an anecdote from his travels in South America.
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3:35 - 3:37"In Tierro del Fuego a native touched with his finger
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3:37 - 3:40some cold preserved meat while I was eating ...
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3:40 - 3:43and plainly showed disgust at its softness, whilst I felt
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3:43 - 3:46utter disgust at my food being touched by a naked savage — (Laughter) —
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3:46 - 3:48though his hands did not appear dirty."
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3:48 - 3:54He later wrote, "It's okay, some of my best friends are naked savages." (Laughter)
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3:54 - 3:56Well it turns out it's not only old-timey British scientists
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3:56 - 3:59who are this squeamish. I recently got a chance
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3:59 - 4:01to talk to Richard Dawkins for a documentary,
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4:01 - 4:05and I was able to disgust him a bunch of times. Here's my favorite.
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4:05 - 4:07Richard Dawkins: "We've evolved around courtship and sex,
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4:07 - 4:10are attached to deep-rooted emotions and reactions
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4:10 - 4:15that are hard to jettison overnight."
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4:15 - 4:19David Pizarro: So my favorite part of this clip is that
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4:19 - 4:22Professor Dawkins actually gagged.
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4:22 - 4:25He jumps back, and he gags, and we had to do it three times,
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4:25 - 4:29and all three times he gagged. (Laughter)
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4:29 - 4:32And he was really gagging. I thought he might throw up on me, actually.
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4:32 - 4:35One of the features, though, of disgust,
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4:35 - 4:38is not just its universality and its strength,
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4:38 - 4:41but the way that it works through association.
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4:41 - 4:45So when one disgusting thing touches a clean thing,
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4:45 - 4:48that clean thing becomes disgusting, not the other way around.
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4:48 - 4:51This makes it very useful as a strategy if you want to
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4:51 - 4:53convince somebody that an object or an individual
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4:53 - 4:57or an entire social group is disgusting and should be avoided.
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4:57 - 4:59The philosopher Martha Nussbaum points this out
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4:59 - 5:01in this quote: "Thus throughout history, certain disgust
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5:01 - 5:05properties -- sliminess, bad smell, stickiness, decay, foulness --
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5:05 - 5:07have been repeatedly and monotonously been associated with ...
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5:07 - 5:11Jews, women, homosexuals, untouchables, lower-class people --
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5:11 - 5:14all of those are imagined as tainted by the dirt of the body."
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5:14 - 5:17Let me give you just some examples of how, some powerful
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5:17 - 5:20examples of how this has been used historically.
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5:20 - 5:23This comes from a Nazi children's book published in 1938:
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5:23 - 5:26"Just look at these guys! The louse-infested beards,
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5:26 - 5:30the filthy, protruding ears, those stained, fatty clothes...
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5:30 - 5:32Jews often have an unpleasant sweetish odor.
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5:32 - 5:35If you have a good nose, you can smell the Jews."
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5:35 - 5:38A more modern example comes from people who try to
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5:38 - 5:40convince us that homosexuality is immoral.
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5:40 - 5:44This is from an anti-gay website, where they said
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5:44 - 5:47gays are "worthy of death for their vile ... sex practices."
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5:47 - 5:51They're like "dogs eating their own vomit and sows wallowing in their own feces."
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5:51 - 5:53These are disgust properties that are trying to be directly
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5:53 - 5:57linked to the social group that you should not like.
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5:57 - 6:00When we were first investigating the role of disgust in
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6:00 - 6:03moral judgment, one of the things we became interested in
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6:03 - 6:08was whether or not these sorts of appeals are more likely
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6:08 - 6:11to work in individuals who are more easily disgusted.
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6:11 - 6:13So while disgust, along with the other basic emotions,
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6:13 - 6:16are universal phenomena, it just really is true
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6:16 - 6:18that some people are easier to disgust than others.
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6:18 - 6:20You could probably see it in the audience members
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6:20 - 6:22when I showed you those disgusting images.
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6:22 - 6:24The way that we measured this was by a scale that was
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6:24 - 6:27constructed by some other psychologists
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6:27 - 6:30that simply asked people across a wide variety of situations
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6:30 - 6:32how likely they are to feel disgust.
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6:32 - 6:33So here are a couple of examples.
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6:33 - 6:36"Even if I were hungry, I would not drink a bowl of my
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6:36 - 6:39favorite soup if it had been stirred by a used but thoroughly washed fly-swatter."
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6:39 - 6:41"Do you agree or disagree?" (Laughter)
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6:41 - 6:43"While you are walking through a tunnel under a railroad track,
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6:43 - 6:47you smell urine. Would you be very disgusted or not at all disgusted?"
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6:47 - 6:50If you ask enough of these, you can get a general overall
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6:50 - 6:52score of disgust sensitivity.
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6:52 - 6:54It turns out that this score is actually meaningful.
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6:54 - 6:57When you bring people into the laboratory and you ask
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6:57 - 7:01them if they're willing to engage in safe but disgusting behaviors
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7:01 - 7:06like eating chocolate that's been baked to look like dog poop,
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7:06 - 7:10or in this case eating some mealworms that are perfectly healthy but pretty gross,
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7:10 - 7:13your score on that scale actually predicts whether or not
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7:13 - 7:16you'll be willing to engage in those behaviors.
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7:16 - 7:18The first time that we set out to collect data on this
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7:18 - 7:20and associate it with political or moral beliefs,
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7:20 - 7:23we found a general pattern --
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7:23 - 7:26this is with the psychologists Yoel Inbar and Paul Bloom --
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7:26 - 7:30that in fact, across three studies we kept finding
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7:30 - 7:33that people who reported that they were easily disgusted
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7:33 - 7:36also reported that they were more politically conservative.
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7:36 - 7:38Another way to say this, though, is that people
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7:38 - 7:44who are very liberal are very hard to disgust. (Laughter)
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7:44 - 7:48In a more recent follow-up study, we were able to look at
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7:48 - 7:51a much greater sample, a much larger sample. In this case,
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7:51 - 7:53this is nearly 30,000 U.S. respondents,
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7:53 - 7:56and we find the same pattern. As you can see,
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7:56 - 7:58people who are on the very conservative side
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7:58 - 8:01of answering the political orientation scale are
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8:01 - 8:03also much more likely to report that they're easily disgusted.
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8:03 - 8:06This data set also allowed us to statistically control
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8:06 - 8:08for a number of things that we knew were both related
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8:08 - 8:11to political orientation and to disgust sensitivity.
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8:11 - 8:14So we were able to control for gender, age, income,
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8:14 - 8:17education, even basic personality variables,
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8:17 - 8:19and the result stays the same.
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8:19 - 8:23When we actually looked at not just self-reported political orientation,
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8:23 - 8:26but voting behavior, we were able to look geographically
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8:26 - 8:29across the nation. What we found was that in regions
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8:29 - 8:32in which people reported high levels of disgust sensitivity,
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8:32 - 8:34McCain got more votes.
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8:34 - 8:38So it not only predicted self-reported political orientation,
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8:38 - 8:40but actual voting behavior. And also we were able,
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8:40 - 8:43with this sample, to look across the world,
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8:43 - 8:46in 121 different countries we asked the same questions,
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8:46 - 8:50and as you can see, this is 121 countries collapsed
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8:50 - 8:52into 10 different geographical regions.
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8:52 - 8:55No matter where you look, what this is plotting is the size
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8:55 - 8:59of the relationship between disgust sensitivity and political orientation,
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8:59 - 9:02and no matter where we looked, we saw a very similar effect.
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9:02 - 9:06Other labs have actually looked at this as well
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9:06 - 9:08using different measures of disgust sensitivity,
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9:08 - 9:10so rather than asking people how easily disgusted they are,
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9:10 - 9:13they hook people up to physiological measures,
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9:13 - 9:14in this case skin conductance.
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9:14 - 9:17And what they've demonstrated is that people who report
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9:17 - 9:21being more politically conservative are also more physiologically aroused
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9:21 - 9:24when you show them disgusting images like the ones that I showed you.
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9:24 - 9:26Interestingly, what they also showed in a finding
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9:26 - 9:30that we kept getting in our previous studies as well
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9:30 - 9:34was that one of the strongest influences here is that
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9:34 - 9:36individuals who are very disgust-sensitive not only are
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9:36 - 9:38more likely to report being politically conservative, but
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9:38 - 9:41they're also very much more opposed to gay marriage
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9:41 - 9:44and homosexuality and pretty much a lot of
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9:44 - 9:47the socio-moral issues in the sexual domain.
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9:47 - 9:51So physiological arousal predicted, in this study,
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9:51 - 9:53attitudes toward gay marriage.
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9:53 - 9:56But even with all these data linking disgust sensitivity
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9:56 - 9:59and political orientation, one of the questions that remains is
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9:59 - 10:02what is the causal link here? Is it the case that
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10:02 - 10:05disgust really is shaping political and moral beliefs?
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10:05 - 10:08We have to resort to experimental methods to answer this,
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10:08 - 10:11and so what we can do is actually bring people into the lab
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10:11 - 10:13and disgust them and compare them to a control group
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10:13 - 10:15that hasn't been disgusted. It turns out that over
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10:15 - 10:18the past five years a number of researchers have done this,
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10:18 - 10:21and by and large the results have all been the same,
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10:21 - 10:23that when people are feeling disgust, their attitudes
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10:23 - 10:26shift towards the right of the political spectrum,
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10:26 - 10:28toward more moral conservatism as well.
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10:28 - 10:32So this is whether you use a foul odor, a bad taste,
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10:32 - 10:37from film clips, from post-hypnotic suggestions of disgust,
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10:37 - 10:40images like the ones I've shown you, even just
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10:40 - 10:42reminding people that disease is prevalent and they should
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10:42 - 10:45be wary of it and wash up, right, to keep clean,
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10:45 - 10:48these all have similar effects on judgment.
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10:48 - 10:50Let me just give you an example from a recent study
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10:50 - 10:53that we conducted. We asked participants
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10:53 - 10:58to just simply give us their opinion of a variety of social groups,
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10:58 - 11:02and we either made the room smell gross or not.
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11:02 - 11:06When the room smelled gross, what we saw was that
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11:06 - 11:09individuals actually reported more negative attitudes toward gay men.
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11:09 - 11:11Disgust didn't influence attitudes toward all the other
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11:11 - 11:14social groups that we asked, including African-Americans,
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11:14 - 11:18the elderly. It really came down to the attitudes they had
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11:18 - 11:19toward gay men.
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11:19 - 11:23In another set of studies we actually simply reminded people --
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11:23 - 11:25this was at a time when the swine flu was going around --
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11:25 - 11:27we reminded people that in order to prevent the spread
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11:27 - 11:31of the flu that they ought to wash their hands.
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11:31 - 11:35For some participants, we actually had them take questionnaires
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11:35 - 11:38next to a sign that reminded them to wash their hands.
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11:38 - 11:41And what we found was that just taking a questionnaire
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11:41 - 11:44next to this hand-sanitizing reminder made individuals
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11:44 - 11:48report being more politically conservative.
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11:48 - 11:50And when we asked them a variety of questions about
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11:50 - 11:53the rightness or wrongness of certain acts, what we also
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11:53 - 11:55found was that simply being reminded that they ought
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11:55 - 11:59to wash their hands made them more morally conservative.
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11:59 - 12:01In particular, when we asked them questions about
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12:01 - 12:05sort of taboo but fairly harmless sexual practices,
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12:05 - 12:07just being reminded that they ought to wash their hands
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12:07 - 12:10made them think that they were more morally wrong.
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12:10 - 12:12Let me give you an example of what I mean by harmless
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12:12 - 12:15but taboo sexual practice. We gave them scenarios.
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12:15 - 12:19One of them said a man is house-sitting for his grandmother.
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12:19 - 12:21When his grandmother's away, he has sex with his girlfriend
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12:21 - 12:23on his grandma's bed.
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12:23 - 12:25In another one, we said a woman enjoys masturbating
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12:25 - 12:29with her favorite teddy bear cuddled next to her. (Laughter)
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12:29 - 12:32People find these to be more morally abhorrent
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12:32 - 12:36if they've been reminded to wash their hands. (Laughter)
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12:36 - 12:39(Laughter)
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12:39 - 12:43Okay. The fact that emotions influence our judgment
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12:43 - 12:45should come as no surprise. I mean,
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12:45 - 12:46that's part of how emotions work.
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12:46 - 12:48They not only motivate you to behave in certain ways,
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12:48 - 12:50but they change the way you think.
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12:50 - 12:53In the case of disgust, what is a little bit more surprising
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12:53 - 12:56is the scope of this influence. It makes perfect sense,
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12:56 - 12:59and it's a very good emotion for us to have, that disgust
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12:59 - 13:02would make me change the way that I perceive
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13:02 - 13:05the physical world whenever contamination is possible.
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13:05 - 13:08It makes less sense that an emotion that was built
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13:08 - 13:10to prevent me from ingesting poison should predict
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13:10 - 13:14who I'm going to vote for in the upcoming presidential election.
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13:14 - 13:17The question of whether disgust ought to influence
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13:17 - 13:19our moral and political judgments
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13:19 - 13:22certainly has to be complex, and might depend on exactly
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13:22 - 13:25what judgments we're talking about, and as a scientist,
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13:25 - 13:27we have to conclude sometimes that the scientific method
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13:27 - 13:30is just ill-equipped to answer these sorts of questions.
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13:30 - 13:32But one thing that I am fairly certain about is,
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13:32 - 13:35at the very least, what we can do with this research is
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13:35 - 13:38point to what questions we ought to ask in the first place.
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13:38 - 13:42Thank you. (Applause)
- Title:
- The strange politics of disgust
- Speaker:
- David Pizarro
- Description:
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What does a disgusting image have to do with how you vote? Equipped with surveys and experiments, psychologist David Pizarro demonstrates a correlation between sensitivity to disgusting cues -- a photo of feces, an unpleasant odor -- and moral and political conservatism. (Filmed at TEDxEast.)
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 14:02
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