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The Next Great Starship Episode 1.6 (English Subtitles)

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    Sandi: Phase 1 of the competition is underway.
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    Last week, the judges selected four teams to move on.
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    This week, more teams advance and more teams are cut on The Next Great Starship.
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    Hey, everyone. Welcome to episode 6 of The Next Great Starship.
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    We're here in Austin with all of our favorite judges.
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    Mark: Mark Skelton, art director here in Austin, Texas.
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    Dave: Dave Hobbins, a concept designer in Santa Monica's studio.
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    Chris R: Chris Roberts, project director of Star Citizen, head of Cloud Imperium Games.
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    Chris O: Chris Olivia, Chief Visual Officer for Cloud Imperium Games in Austin, Texas.
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    Chris R: Well, you're Chief Visual Officer, not just in Austin, Texas, but you are in Austin, Texas.
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    Chris O: Yay. Really? Alright. I didn't know that.
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    Chris S: Chris Smith, lead vehicle modeler for Cloud Imperium Games.
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    Dave: Pretty good. Yeah. Chris S: There you go...
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    Chris R: It's pretty awesome,
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    because we're finally getting to see the teams actually work on the spaceships,
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    and the concept phase is always the most interesting part of it.
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    We're also seeing these designs for the first time during the show.
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    In the past when we went through all the submissions,
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    we of course had to look at all the submissions, so we already gave our thoughts,
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    so we'd seen them, and now we discover the concept work as we're watching it.
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    And that's actually pretty interesting.
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    So yeah, it's fun and I'm looking forward to seeing what we see in this episode.
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    Chris O: It's a lot more exciting now that we're seeing the whole ship instead of just a weapon.
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    It's a whole new ball of wax.
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    Chris S: There's a lot of promise so far, too.
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    Sandi: Alright, guys. So, we're going to see five teams today.
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    Three of the teams are going to go through, and two of the teams are going to go into the Save Pool.
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    And they all got the mercenary gunship specs. Let's check those out.
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    Alright, guys. A lot's at stake. Are we ready, excited?
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    Chris S: Let's do this. I'm ready. Chris O: Ready and excited.
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    Sandi: Okay. Let's roll the first video.
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    Shimapan: When we first received our design brief for the competition,
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    the first thing I thought about immediately was the Mi-24 Hind,
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    because of its very similar role in history.
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    So, we started off with that and then we branched off.
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    We want to give the turrets as wide of a firing arc as possible,
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    so I tried to put them in a location on the ship where they had almost full hemispherical views -
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    from the ship partition. We thought also that it would be cool to have a drop pod that could detach -
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    and basically allow the ship to drop off the drop pod without slowing down.
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    Into the workflow, I did some ink sketches initially, then I did some drawing to Photoshop,
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    then I passed it back and forth between my team and I,
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    and after that I did a detailed paint over it trying to figure out what the final shape layout is going to be.
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    But we still had some issues with the shape,
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    and we had some design things that we weren't really happy about.
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    So, I think it wasn't until the concept art when we finally figured out -
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    what kind of engine configuration we wanted. So that was one thing.
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    We put together our final issue on iteration 1 of our concepts.
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    I really enjoyed the judges' feedback from last week. I just thought I'd let you know that.
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    And we hope to see you in the next part of the competition.
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    Chris S: There was a little...
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    Chris O: I don't have anything to curl. Chris R: That's not working. You can't do it...
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    Chris O: What do you want me to curl?
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    Sandi: Look, he doesn't need to curl.
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    Chris R: He doesn't curl water bottles.
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    Mark: Those are for wussies...
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    Sandi: Chris Smith, what did you think?
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    Chris S: So, I thought this was actually really good.
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    The design of the ship was cool. I thought everything - it seemed it was laid out pretty cool.
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    They had the two turrets; it looked like they have thruster placement in the right spots.
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    There was a diagram with a lot of little detail bits, which I wasn't able to read at this point...
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    It looked like it was very well thought out, and I thought the design was pretty cool.
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    Chris O: The only negative - it's a little bit, I think, over exaggerated in some places.
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    I think they can just tone it down as far as the boldness of some of it,
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    but overall it's just beautiful presentation and really nice design.
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    Chris R: I'm actually super impressed.
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    That's my favorite one to date, so far, of the concepts that we've had.
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    I'm impressed. They've only had, I think, 19 days from when we told them what the specs to do that.
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    I sort of like the feel of it. The rendering style was really nice.
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    I'd like to study some of this stuff a bit more, because I didn't see the front thrusters so much.
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    So I could see the back end, just how they would articulate...
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    Chris S: There was one on the nose, like, on the top.
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    Chris S: But yeah, I agree. Chris R: Yeah. So, I'd have to look to see if that was in there.
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    There was... The two manned turrets, although the one on the bottom was sort of flushed in there.
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    Pretty damn impressive. They get my vote so far.
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    Sandi: Alright. Thumbs up from the "Chris couch". What did you think?
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    Dave: I liked it a lot, too. I thought it was a kind of a daring design.
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    A little bit of Bird of Prey with the forward swept wings extending from the rear -
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    and the main fuselage, coming forward.
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    It's a bit of an ugly duckling in a way, but I like that about that,
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    because some of these things aren't attractive from the get-go...
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    They're very purpose built and things are added on and compartmentalized, and I like that.
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    It gave it a robust sort of feel. There are a lot of WW2 aircraft that aren't the sexiest things,
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    or the most streamlined, but they look like they can take care of the business.
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    Chris S: They grow on to you.
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    Dave: Yeah, exactly. They have a character of their own, and they become cool.
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    And I feel that this really has that potential.
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    I liked a lot of the surfacing, though I felt that there was almost too much,
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    and it felt a few pieces needed to be unified to move the eye around.
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    But other than that I thought fantastic job.
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    Maybe just refine a few of the motifs and the exhaust, and intakes, and other things like that...
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    Chris R: And I think of those...
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    I'd like to see maybe a little more insight or detail on how some of the pieces work.
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    I was mentioning the turrets - they look kind of flush.
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    How can I get a field of fire? Are they going to get in the way of other things?
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    Where are the landing gear? How does that deploy when you land?
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    Just that kind of stuff.
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    Chris S: Perhaps, once they do a pre-viz on the 3D,
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    they could do a little block-out animation that could be fleshed out a little bit.
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    Chris R: Yeah, but it's sort of super cool for me.
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    Dave: The turret behind the rear cockpit -
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    it seems like some of the muzzle flash would be right over your head,
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    so some little shielding there that maybe... The other rear guy doesn't need as much observability, but...
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    Mark: I like the broken neck. Like you're saying, it's kind of the ugly duckling,
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    but that makes me want to love it more.
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    Dave: Yeah.
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    Mark: You know. And I like the big engines.
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    They look like if you were standing in front of those things, you'd get sucked right in them and tore up.
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    Like, those things are huge. The paint job was really nice, too.
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    Chris S: Yeah. It had some good variation options.
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    Mark: Yeah. I liked the variation in it.
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    Yeah - it was weighted really nice, and it feels like in the back it's a nice chunk of ship.
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    And then you've got the neck that comes down, which just had a nice flow to it.
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    The detachable thing in the back, I haven't really seen that before.
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    Chris S: Yeah, it's kind of split up in the middle.
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    Mark: That's very interesting. I'd like to see more, maybe a block-out of that... How it would animate.
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    Like, click, click, things popping off and then it detaching.
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    Chris O: It seems like that's a sort of general theme of what we'd like to see more of. Stuff like that.
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    Chris R: Yeah, we want to see more on the concept stage,
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    where we understand how the functionality works.
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    Because I definitely even know on our internal development...
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    Our first stuff, we were designing it and going "oh yeah, that's cool," and then we get it in to the game,
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    and we're like "alright, how do you get in the ship?"
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    Or how do you see in the cockpit, or how the thrusters work.
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    So now we're very focused on not just the form of it, but the function of it.
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    It's different than games I've done in the past, where you could sort of cheat it.
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    In this one we sort of have to do the industrial design up front as well as the actual beauty design,
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    so to speak.
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    Mark: Yeah. I thought it was one of my favorites so far, for sure.
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    Sandi: Well, a lot of positive comments for this one, but the competition is tough.
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    Let's roll the next one.
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    Tallon: My first ideas was that it was going to have to be grounded in some kind of reality,
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    because the parameters were such that the dropship had to go through deeper atmosphere,
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    and land, obviously. So I thought it's going to have to conform to some kind of aerodynamics,
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    and dependent on what kind of planet it's going to be landing on.
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    The idea that I came up with in the end was a vehicle that drops from the underside of a mothership,
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    and then falls in free-form mode in a kind of blind state,
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    with a front heat shield over the main visor that's covered,
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    and then as it comes through the atmosphere, it then deploys its cannon arms.
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    It's called the Shadow Mantis ship. That was the name I eventually settled on,
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    and the reason why is because it has these praying mantis style arms that unfold from the side,
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    with cannons on.
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    One of the ideas that I had just randomly was this B.A.T unit.
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    Instead of having the troops be dropped into a combat zone from the ground,
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    they're actually dropped in from the air. So that means that you can potentially have more troops.
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    I hope you enjoy the concept art I came up with.
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    Sandi: David Hobbins, you want to kick that one off?
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    Dave: Sure. I thought the sketches were really fun,
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    and obviously pieced on a lot of thought into the utility and various aspects of it,
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    and even with the single person flight gear. I thought that was cool.
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    The design is interesting.
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    I feel like there needs to be a refinement on... Between the big shapes and the smaller shapes.
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    It was feeling almost handheld or toylike. That said, I think it's a pretty cool direction.
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    I just think it needs a little more refinement.
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    Sandi: Mark?
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    Mark: Yeah, I like it. It feels like a submersible to me. It has a very aquatic feel, which is interesting.
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    It looks like if you were to put some heavy fire on it that,
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    because of its shape, the shielding would glance off of it.
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    It almost feels like a special ops ship, something that would be designed for a specific type of mission.
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    I agree with David, though. Some of the bigger, bulkier bits that come out,
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    they seemed too big for what the size should be. Chris O: Like, where would they go?
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    Mark: Yeah, and where they go. It seems like that arm that came out,
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    it doesn't feel like it's flowing with the ship quite as well.
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    It seems like it should be integrated in a little better. But I do like the design.
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    It's very different than what we've seen so far. But yeah, I dig it.
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    Sandi: Roberts?
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    Chris R: I feel like it's a cool design for an atmospheric dropship,
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    but not particularly a great design for something that's in space.
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    Also, size wise feels too small for what the spec is. It should be carrying about 15 tonnes of cargo.
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    It's meant to have two manned turrets.
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    Essentially on that, there was this artillery piece that could, I guess, be manned by a crew,
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    and the other one was sort of an auto-turret on the side,
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    and I'm assuming there'd be one on the other side.
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    So, I do like that sort of shape.
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    There was a couple of shots in the concept that was on the left hand side, that looked kind of cool.
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    But primarily our game is going to be space, and then the ships can transition down into atmosphere...
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    So it has some work for me, before I would say "okay, that would work as a gunship as we're seeing it."
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    But I like the artistic style, and I like the idea of trying something that doesn't look like a...
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    Say, we all think "gunship" - we all think "Hind"; we all think that kind of stuff.
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    This definitely didn't have that feeling, and had some potential.
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    I liked the blast shield for re-entry and stuff like that.
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    Chris O: That was a really bold design.
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    I think they took a chance going with that simple sleek shape up front.
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    But in the end, I think it needs... I think if that can be the front piece of something bigger...
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    Chris R: Yeah. It needs more mass. But also just the engines, also.
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    I'm going, "where are the thrusters and the engine?"
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    Yeah, I think you're totally right, if you had the front piece as something on a bigger space gunship,
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    that'd be pretty cool.
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    Chris O: It could be cool that that maybe detaches from the rest of the ship at some point...
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    Overall, it had a lot of potential, and it was a really - like I said, it was a unique design.
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    Chris S: I agree. It seemed like it was like a half of a ship.
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    It was sort of the front and then it needed like a bigger back.
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    And yeah, it was probably too small for the specs that we have.
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    I did like that sleek design. It reminded of like some sort of automotive design, like, futuristic,
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    with that little black sleek cover that he had.
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    I actually do like it sort of hidden, and then the turret pops out, and then the other things pop out.
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    Chris R: Yeah. I like the idea of deploying turrets from something sleek.
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    Chris S: Seems like it needs some more. There is a little bit that it needs to push it that extra inch.
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    Sandi: Alright. So it sounds like brownie points for a bold design,
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    and maybe some work in creating more mass and sculpt for it.
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    Let's roll the next one.
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    Four Horsemen: Hey, everyone. This is Team Four Horsemen.
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    We ended up with ten thumbnails, and then we started cutting them up into pieces in Photoshop,
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    and basically sticking parts from one image into another.
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    With a basic shape for a ship in hand,
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    Tobias started refining the Frankenstein of thumbnails into more readable formats,
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    with me working the shapes, adding details, balancing out the shapes, all that stuff.
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    After that we made a very rough block-out to see if the shapes that we had in 2D also worked in 3D.
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    For the interior we wanted to have a bit more of a lived in feel,
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    because the crew lives there from day to day. It's their home.
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    So we wanted to have a small living area available to crew when they're not engaged in combat.
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    Have a bench or two,
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    and a table for mission briefings or just occasional poker playing between the crew, or whatever.
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    We also embedded a cargo crane in the back of the ship, into the tail...
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    (Judges: Wow. Nice.)
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    Here's the more refined concept that is based on the block-out, so they actually match,
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    which illustrates how we want to move forward with our ship design.
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    Sandi: Chris Roberts, I heard a lot of comments from you.
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    Chris R: Yeah. Actually this is my new favorite. I actually really... I really liked it.
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    I would say that my comments would not really be so much about...
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    It felt like a gunship to me. It felt really nice in some of those 3D views.
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    My questions and comments would be more down on the engines and the thrusters;
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    how they're moving and how they're working.
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    because I like those big, I think they're the thrusters or arms, on the side.
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    I'd have to actually spend some time and say where are the four TR3 engines in the back,
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    where are the four TR2 maneuvering jets in the front,
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    because it sort of felt like they combined some of those things. Maybe they didn't.
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    Chris O: Are your thoughts on those small thrusters on the engines on the side,
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    would they physically work in space as far as maneuvering it properly?
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    Or is it an amount of cheatability? Chris R: Yeah, yeah, yeah... It's not...
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    It's not the look of it. The look of it is cool.
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    I'm just talking about literally the physical... Because we are actually simulating these ships properly.
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    So, the thrusters have to be placed in the appropriate positions, that the ship can actually...
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    Because literally we'll put it into the engine,
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    and if we don't have our thrusters set up correctly, the ship won't fly properly.
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    Sandi: New favorite for you, too, Chris?
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    Chris O: No. It's close, though. It's up there.
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    It's a perfect example of how you've got to trust the process sometimes,
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    and how the process of concepting stuff out works as far as the initial silhouettes and sketches,
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    moving into blocking it out,
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    and then how really putting a thought into it can lead to a successful finished design.
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    And that definitely showed successful design.
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    Chris: Really the only comment or critique I would have would be - well for one,
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    figuring out where exactly the thrusters might be so it flies correctly...
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    But those big engines on the side, while they were cool and I like them,
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    would maybe work on a little bit more, because they seem a little bit too blocky.
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    The rest of the ship was a little bit more rounded, or whatever, and it had this cool shape language,
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    but these big things that felt like big nose pliers to me, when it kind of went together and up,
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    because they're so blocky and square. Maybe you could chamfer off one edge off of it or something.
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    Just to make it a little bit more cohesive with the rest.
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    Mark: I love the call-outs that he did for the interior. That was fantastic.
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    As far as what room goes where and how they all fit together.
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    You could tell he thought out, like, "okay, right behind the pilots would be the engine room,"
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    "so if something crazy happens, the engine room is right there."
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    It feels like kind of a Gundam ship to me, a little bit. With the way that those...
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    Chris R: You want it to transform?
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    Mark: Yeah, kind of a Transformer type ship.
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    Chris S: Like the legs and the...?
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    Mark: The legs of a Gundam ship.
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    Which is not bad. I mean, that's pretty cool.
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    The only thing that's kind of weird to me is that if you just glance at the ship,
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    it looks like a smaller ship than what it is. You know what I mean?
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    If you look at the cockpit, how big it is, compared to the rest of the ship.
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    Chris R: I didn't feel that. I felt like you definitely got the scale.
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    Mark: And that's minor, because if you're walking around that thing, you're going to see it in full scale.
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    Chris O: So was it the big plier things that made it feel small to you?
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    Mark: I think it was just the whole shape was kind of reminiscent of a fighter jet-ish, a little.
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    Just the hull, I'm talking about - how it kind of tapered off,
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    and you've got that fighter jet front that goes down into that cockpit area.
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    Chris S: Those big side things throw the scale off a little bit.
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    Because it's a big simple shape, and that kind of looks like it could be...
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    In manufacturing, it's hard to do big simple shapes like that without adding a lot of weight.
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    David:I thought it was an extremely communicative, clear, presentation. Obviously a lot of work went
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    into this. There was also a variety in illustration style. Some felt, even if they were digital, theey were still
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    cool "grey marker" artefacts and guache touches almost, at least, it evoked that for me
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    which was fun, it made the ovall presentation full of variety and interesting to look at.
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    Design-wise I thought it was pretty cool, that said, the large, what did you call them?
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    Chris S:Pliers. David:Pliers, whatever, garlic press, who knows what, those read as a much
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    smaller object than what they were, so for that I would say what you said about adding bevelled edges
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    add a little more sophistication, but also a secondary form...
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    Chris S:Break it up into smaller units.
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    David:Yeah, large complex things are rarely just boxes, other than skyscrapers, I can make
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    counter arguments, I think some, although I liked the surfacing and design, the graphic break up
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    of panels and thusters, it still felt slightly soft, slightly cartoonish in proportion, but I think when they
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    get into a more refinded modelling pass they are going to tighten up some of these edges
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    and it will come together great. So, really good job.
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    Sandi:Right, the competition seems to be getting tougher. A lot of love for this one, let's roll the next
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    I see the mercenary gunship as a viable, minimalistic, compact and very cost efficient ahip
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    As a style guide I used the already existing ships in the SC universe.
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    The floor of the cargo space has several purposes, it functions as the landing gear, but can also
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    be extended for cargo switching.
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    A thick main hull gives great armor for the crew and the ship systems.
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    The main challenge for me was to create the design only in 3D without a 2D concept in a short time.
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    For the gunship I decided to create a heavy hull design to ensure the ship would be able
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    to resist enemy gunfire. In front of the ship and at the rear there ia one manned turret seat.
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    When the gunship approaches for landing the wings rotate 90 degrees.
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    During the landing phase 4 small thrusters are placed near the cockpit for more stabilisation.
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    On both sides are doors, two for gargo and two for crew members.
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    Sandi:Chris O, what do you think?
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    Chris O:About what? Sandi:THAT what, Vision cut.
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    Chris O:It was, erm, ahh,it was kinda ugly. I'm trying to think whether it was ugly in a good way
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    or a bad way. Ahm, there was a lot of time spent making it all shiny with pretty lights,
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    not even pretty lighting but, just like, lights everywhere...
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    ChrisR:That last, or the second one, there's two concepts? Concept 1 and concept 2.
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    ChrisS:Which one do you like?
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    ChrisO:I liked-disliked both of them equally. I think if they think about the overall shape I think it
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    could be something a bit better. ChrisS:Silhouette?
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    ChrisO:All I see is an ugly ship, I don't like it.
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    Sandi:Chris Smith?
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    ChrisS:The first version I actually liked better than the second version, even though there was
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    something about it. The main thing that bothered me was that every shape in the ship was just huge.
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    There were no "big" and "small" parts to convey a sense of scale. Everything was big and it
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    looked cartoony. It looked like it was made for a Toy Story movie or something. ChrisO:Or Spykids
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    Mark:Buzz Lightyear would drive this ship.
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    ChrisO:If we were thinking that was his finished detail, or he was waiting to do more detailed
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    paintovers later. ChrisS:But even the general shapes, you want to have small and big variations.
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    Everything, even on the interior, he has these scurity bars that were like "THIS" thick around.
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    I mean, you want little detailed stuff.
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    ChrisR:I think on the second one it was much more guilty than the first one of scale.
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    ChrisS:One thing that was good about it was they thought about thrusters. The thrusters worked
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    that was a cool thing, they had some pre-vis animation, awsome, though I don't agree on
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    the first concept at least, where they had the whole ship lifting up on these little platforms.
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    I don't think if that is mechanically possible without huge hydraulic engines, it seemed fragile.
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    Some things I liked, some implementation on the technicality side of it, but overall, yeah,
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    the ship design was fairly ugly, the second design was very non-pleasing to the eye,
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    especially the silhouette with the wheels and landing gear out.
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    ChrisR:so, throw the second one out, but the first one I think would have some potential if it
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    was getting worked on. It was certainly stubby and ugly, but aggressive. It had those missiles
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    It had those guns, and I did like the thought put in to have the thrusters work, that's something we
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    need to have done. I totally agree with Chris in ters of the scale of stuff, those big thruster nozzles,
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    it was almost like all that was over-size, and it did feel like there was a little too much cut and paste
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    almost like, take constellation cockpit and add an element from another ship on the back, I feel it
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    would be better to have that unified, but I do not mind an ugly, functional, aggressive ship.
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    What they should do is take the first one, look at scaling stuff better...ChrisS:Refine some parts.
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    ChrisR:Everything looks blown up or over-exaggerated, but really embrace the
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    aggressive, stubby side, and I do agree that the whole, a cool idea, but I don't think it practical
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    the whole lift, with the base pushing up the ship.
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    ChriO:If there was more mass to those structures it might feel better, or you don't like the idea?
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    ChrisR:It just sort of feels...there was another element where the engines turned round
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    and they had skids on them, that looked like it might work. They would rotate round for VTOL
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    then in front you would have some similar thrusters rotating for VTOL and it would land.
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    That would be cool, then the base could just drop down like on the Constellation.
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    That would be fine, I just don't think landing on your belly then the belly pushing you up thing.
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    It just feels weird to me.
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    Sandi:David?
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    David:I really wish that, obviously this person is a competant modeller, has put a lot of time
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    into the presentation and rendering and the animation sequences, I wish I could take all that time out
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    and put it back into the core shapes and proportions of the design. I do think the first one id the one
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    to move forwards on, although I would work on the sort of F35 rear vector nozzle.
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    That, when animated in particular looked a little funny or odd.
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    ChrisR:Also probably not very efficient in how it works.
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    David:I mean, they do have it on a real jet, but I might consider putting a faring or sheilding piece
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    that articulates with those as they move to make that motion and silhouette more interesting.
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    Sandi:Mark Skelton?
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    Mark:I think, if you put a couple of balls inside this and a big handle on back, Fisher Price
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    would have a sweet toy. It's really stubby, and very Fisher Price, so if they took it and slimmed it and
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    pulled it a little bit, that might be a start of something cool, but.....
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    ChrisO:It's not the stubbyness. ChrisR:I think it's the fact you don't like that everything is big features.
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    Mark:Everything, especially with the landing gear, the gear was right here and the ship was here, this big
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    so instead of having it so wide, maybe thin it up and pull it this way a little bit. Definately the first
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    one was more interesting to me.
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    David:I wouldn't want to lengthen it, I'd want to keep it short, compace, like a flattened toad,
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    to me that says robust and compact, and it's easily manouvrable, something that spins on a dime
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    If they were to make it longer then it might suggest that it's faster or...
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    Mark:Maybe the thickness of the walls, I guess...
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    ChrisR:I think the thrusters, the engines, the little details, all the stuff that moved,
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    they were all just too big and over-scale, so add it together it looks weird.
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    ChrisS:They were all the same size.
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    Mark:I agree. Sandi:Well, concept 1 and a few reworks for that one. Here#s the last video
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    our concept artist Karnac is known for increbibly detailed clean concepts,
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    Mark:I mean Karnac, that guy is amazing, he is legendary, everything I have seen of his
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    has been amazing. The initial design, I like it, he has a lot of firepower on there obviously,
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    it's fantastic, he's thought through a lot of the systems and how they work together, which is great
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    again I want to see a kind of three-quarter view, I didn't get to see that, just the top and the side,
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    it was cool, I can see a lot from that, but I would like to see more of the detail work that he is
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    thinking of.
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    David:I like all the thought and the layout and package architecture, and this, that and the other,
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    but I might try to work th profile silhouette, the cockpit fuselage area, it felt a little rectilinear,
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    I felt it just.....I liked that, it felt very bold and distict, but that said I felt it needed a secondary shape
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    in the silhouette. It had a sort of retro feel, and in a good way, sort of paid homage to Ron Cobb and
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    Sid Meade and film like Alien. It had sort of an "Eighties SciFi" aesthetic about it.
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    I happen to like that aesthetic, I would just be careful, and maybe, I know this team is fully capable of
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    pushing it, and I would like to see it pushed. I saw some simalarities with the shuttle that
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    Sigourney's character... Mark:I was gonna say, that drop ship she had at the end of Aliens.
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    It had that triangular.... David:Now obviously they have done some new stuff to this, and
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    I'm making no suggestion that they are copying, it's just these things are all in our shared language
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    and when I see a team with this much talent I want to push them to go further.
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    Sandi:The Chris couch?
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    ChrisR:I liked the thinking and the approach that went into this. Talking out what they were thinking about
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    where they would place the guns, what it's function and role was going to be, so the general
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    layout and design I liked. I always go on about the thrusters because we need that for flight,
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    and you could see on their design that they had the front thrusters, here's where they pivot,
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    here's the back ones, and that is actually how it should work, so all those element were great.
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    I'm a little disappointed that they did not take it to the next stage that the Shimanpan and
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    Four Horsemen did, but I think knowing what they did on the gun and the talent behind them
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    and the form and the basics of thinking where the reactor and all the rest where, for me it puts
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    them up there, but I would want to see the concept finished out for me to put them at the front of
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    the line,but I know they have the talent to get there, they are on the right track, I would just like to see
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    more of the details. Huge amount of promise.
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    ChrisO:Yeah, I think we all see the potential with that team, I just wish it was developed further.
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    As far as their basic shape for the ship? I think to get it away from the Sigourney Weaver drop-ship
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    ther escape shuttle, whatever, and they might end up doing this it's such an early stage that maybe
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    he can break apart the big shapes in general, cut it open and see some interior to break
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    up the shape.
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    ChrisS:The weapon range was cool, I like when they do that, since it is a gunship, how much range do
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    you have with each gun to protect your ship.
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    I liked the shape language they have too, I felt the neck, from the side, was sort of dinosaur-ish
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    the neck and little head, but overall great potential, their concept artist is amazing.
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    Hopefully in the next iteration they can show us a little bit more.
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    Sandi:Alright guys, we had 5 quality teams today, and you know what time it is, Email me
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    your top three teams and I will tally the votes.
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    (plinky-plonky twee voting music)
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    Sandi:OK guys, result in, and two teams got 5 votes each.
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    Congratulations to team Shimapan and team Troyka.
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    Now, Vision Cut got no votes, which leaves 4 Hourseman and Tallon Corp. David Hobbins?
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    David:I voted for Tallon Corp. Although I think I was hard on it during my critique, that said
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    I feel it is more original, and I guess I'd like to see designers take risks and do something new
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    but they really have to tackle the obstacle of the size of it, it seems more a hand-held object.
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    If they can overcome that, and their explanations of why it is shaped that way because of the
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    heat shield and other things, I think it could be a really unique drop-ship.
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    Whereas the other was more fleshed out, lots of work, this was a tough decision for me by the way,
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    It just felt a little "safe" and conventional.
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    Sandi:Well I'm sorry David, Four Horsemen are moving on.
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    David:That's fine, I just wanted to give them a chance.
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    ChrisR:I think Tallon Corp was good too, I just, for me, Four Horsemen was more realised and
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    fitted the bill much better, so for me it would be Four Horsemen every day, though that's not
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    to say that Tallon could not turn around and change things with another pass at the design, which
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    I think the will have a chance to do in the save pool.
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    Sandi:The community gets involved once again at the end of phase 1, you guys will get to vote back in
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    two teams.
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    All the teams will get the judges feedback they will do another pass and put out their new video
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    and you guys get to vote two teams back in.
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    Alright guys, we have one more week, 5 more teams to look at...
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    All:WooHoo! Whoah! (laughs) More excitement!
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    ChrisR:This week was great, I thought the standard of competition was extremely high.
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    Super impressed. Last week was good, but I feel this week is ahead of what last week.
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    Really looking forwards to seeing next weeks, and then looking forward to seeing what everyone
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    does in response to our feedback, that's a really great test of a concept artist's skill
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    It's not just coming up with a design in abstraction, you come up with a design to fit some parameters
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    and whether it's a game or a movie or something like that, generally there is other creative feedback
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    and you have to respond and integrate that, and if you do a good job and do it well, that
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    is the sign of a really great concept artist.
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    Sandi:Alright, on that, next week it's the final round of the concept art phase, see you next Friday.
Title:
The Next Great Starship Episode 1.6 (English Subtitles)
Description:

The Next Great Starship, the modding competition that gives fans a chance to create a space ship for Chris Roberts' upcoming epic space sim game, Star Citizen™, is about to get real for 16 teams!
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Video Language:
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38:25

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