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Thank you for coming with us! So...
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All right. How many have heard about the Google
Summer of Code?
-
Already, if you are not aware, I could be
introducing more about what is it and
-
and then talk more about what we are going
to do in the session
-
So, can you raise the hand
-
if you are already aware of the Google Summer of Code?
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OK!
-
Thank you - I think most of you are aware,
-
it's bringing the student developers
-
into the open source community, it's all about that
-
So, the session is going to be
-
mostly the students introducing their projects
-
and getting the feedback, and discussing with their mentors.
-
If they are getting any questions from IRC, they can discuss
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How they can improve the project in their
-
...Their ongoing projects.
-
OK. so let me introduce about myself. I am Jaminy,
-
So, I come from Sri Lanka
-
I am one of the coordinators for
Google Summer of Code with Debian
-
So, Debian has been participating in the Google Summer of Code
-
from 2005, and
-
it has been 13 years it has been participating,
-
and we had a break in 2017
-
and now we are back in 2018 with Google Summer of Code
-
and these are the teams for GSoC coordination
-
I am representing the team
-
Daniel Pocock, Alexander, and it's me
-
This year, we have accepted 25 students
-
And that's the link for the projects
-
that are ongoing this year
-
So, there is an interesting GSoC statistic this year
-
this year we have selected
-
I mean, this was from the Google Open Source blog,
-
and they said there are three students
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Four students accepted from Kosovo
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And...
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The three students are from our Debian community, and they are here joining us
-
joining with us,
-
to introduce more about their project
-
I hope that, without wasting more time,
-
I could give the chance for the students to introduce,
-
to talk more about their projects.
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Arthur, can you...
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[ audience clapping ]
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So, you hear me? OK?
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Yes? Nice.
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So...
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Hello, my name is Arthur del Esposto
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I am going to talk about my GSoC project
-
that is titled "Improving Distro Tracker to better support Debian teams"
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My mentor is Lucas Kanashiro and my co-mentor is Raphael Hertzog.
-
I will provide you some context about why we are doing this.
-
So, basically,
-
Debian teams used to rely on Packages Entropy Tracker
-
with the assistance that basically got some information about
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the package from Debian, from Alioth,
-
and display some kind of information
-
inside tables and some categories.
-
And we also had inside our Debian infrastructure
-
the tracker.debian.org, which you probably have used before,
-
that basically gathers the same sort of information from several sources inside Debian
-
and puts this in a Web application.
-
So, for example, you have the base
-
of a specific package, the Web defaults,
-
and you can get all the information related to that package.
-
And what we want to do, because...
-
that has not been maintained anymore
-
and also, he used to track the
-
package repository from Alioth.
-
And what we really want to do
-
is just continuing to support Debian teams
to track the health of the packages and to
-
and to prioritize their work efforts
-
by migrating the PET features
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to Distro Tracker, and also
-
we want to track Salsa repositories instead of Alioth.
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So, what are the results we have so far?
-
So, basically...
-
if you enter a team page,
-
of anything inside Distro Tracker
-
you are going to get this kind of table
-
so basically you have the first column
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with the package name
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the second column with the changelog version
-
and the VCS of that package,
-
the third column with the archive version,
-
we also are tracking the bugs here
-
and the last column
-
has the upstream version.
-
OK, of this package.
-
And, another interesting feature
-
that we are providing you is that if
-
you pass the mouse over
-
one of those fields, you are going to get
-
more detailed information about that specific field.
-
OK, so for example here we have
-
the information links to BTS
-
related to the bugs
-
that exist for the package.
-
We also provide some categories
-
so basically we could have
-
more than one category of package tables
-
for example, you could have like
-
packages with RC bugs,
-
packages that have a new version
-
in the upstream, and we have
-
specific pages where each of these
-
package tables. OK?
-
And we have
-
a large number of teams
-
inside Debian, inside this specifically
inside the Distro Tracker,
-
so we also provide this
-
autocomplete text field
-
so you can easily find
-
your team, the team that you are interested in.
-
And...
-
that was my resource, and so far we have
-
faced some challenges,
-
first is that Distro Tracker
-
has a generic purpose architecture
-
because it should be used by several
-
distros, so it's also being
-
used by the Kali community, so basically
-
everything you are going to do you have
to make it extensible, have to design it
-
to be extensible by this specific application
-
that implements that specific features from
-
their distros.
-
Also, the database design is challenging, because
-
we have to collect all this data from several
-
database tables
-
and some of these
-
context is realized in JSON fields inside the database
-
so it's not easy to get these. And also,
-
we have faced some problems,
-
some performance problems, because we are
-
we are handling a large number of table cells
-
dynamically, so basically we are building
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it of these table cells
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in run time.
-
And, until the end of GSoC, I plan to
-
create a cache mechanism, I am already
-
working on that, proposed a merge request on it,
-
to try to improve the performance of
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table rendering
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I also want to have all my
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merge requests accepted
-
inside Salsa
-
We also want to provide more
-
package tables with new categories
-
and also provide a new feature that
-
you could be able to sort the team
-
for content based on columns, for example
-
I want to sort my
-
my table based on
-
on the number of bugs, for example.
-
And there is also that we
-
got good results so far, and
-
I have received valuable feedback from the Debian community
-
and I have a lot of ideas to continue
-
working on this after the GSoC as well
-
The GSoC has been
-
an amazing experience, I have been learning a lot,
-
which Kanashiro has had to log all the
community members
-
I look into contributing to Debian
-
of course
-
Thank you to the Debian community to
-
provide me this opportunity to come here to DebConf
-
to present my work.
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Lets get moving on, and thanks.
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[ audience clapping ]
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So, my project is called
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"Port Kali Packages to Debian"
-
and my mentors are Raphaël Hertzog
and Gianfranco Costamagna.
-
Unfortunately, they didn't come to
-
this year's DebConf, and
-
we are from the pkg-security
-
tools packaging team, so this is
-
something I have been working on
-
for the past one year and a half
-
I think I started packaging
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on 2016
-
and in 2017 I started
-
working on the security tools packaging
-
because this is something that really
-
interests me, so
-
What actually is Kali Linux?
-
Kali Linux is a digital
forensics and pentesting distribution
-
that has like lots of packages
-
is by far
-
the most used distribution
-
for "capture-the-flag" competitions
-
and is based on unstable
-
and the thing is that Kali has
-
a more relaxed policy
-
than Debian's, so that's the reason
-
of the
-
differences between the packages
-
I mean, the packages that Kali has and Debian hasn't
-
so, at first
-
I did gather some information about
-
what packages can I work on
-
and what are the problems
-
that it should rather get them on Main
-
So, I first started using
-
this dashboard from Kali Linux, and they have
-
also used the tracker system that we
use on Debian
-
and this is a special dashboard
-
where we can see how many
-
packages are on Kali Linux that
-
aren't on Debian
-
at the time, and this is for today, so there are
-
477 packages
-
but this includes dependencies
-
and lots of packages are not
-
that really important, and
-
some of them are not installed by default on Kali
-
So, the first thing,
-
I already knew some packages that
-
I really would like to see on Debian, and
-
the first one was Metasploit
-
because it's one of the most used
-
frameworks for pentesting
-
I have started by looking at
-
what should I do
-
and it was a really tough job
-
because Metasploit is currently
-
bundling all their gem dependencies
-
Because of, this is a huge problem
-
there was a big discussion
-
n the Debian mailing lists about that,
-
but whatever, I use repology
-
in order to see what distros
-
were already packaging this stuff
-
and at the end, there should
-
be around 40 packages
-
that I had to package in order
-
to see if it would work, because
-
you have the version problem, because
-
bundling the distro version, and
-
we decided not to do that
-
during this project, so I
-
had to look for other packages
-
and I didn't want to
-
do this manually, so I
-
developed a
-
kind of big shell script
-
it shouldn't be a shell script, it should be in
-
a programming language, but
-
got big worked on, and to this
-
scripts I give
-
I input it a list of packages, and it
-
cloned all the Kali
-
Git repositories for this package,
-
build each one of them, and did
-
some basic checks, like if
-
it is a default
-
Kali package, if it's
-
buildable, because some of the packages
-
are not buildable because we don't have
-
the build dependencies in Debian right now,
-
it checks if it is DEP5 compliant already,
-
if we need manpages, if we need
-
hardening, if
-
it is bundling some gems, and if
-
there are [?], there is about
-
twenty or thirty something
-
columns on here
-
so you have lots of info
-
and in order to know
-
which are the most important issues
-
Raphaël gave me the idea to
-
look for the number of uploads that
-
the package had since
-
it hit Kali, so I
-
can only
-
just sort for the number of uploads
-
and I have the most important ones.
-
This made the process
-
really easy, like a lot more
-
easy, and I
-
am publishing this on our team's
-
wiki page, and I will keep using this
-
like, forever
-
because it really helps other people that
-
want to contribute to our team, and
-
this is another software
-
that I tried, how many time do I have?
-
OK
-
another package that I really want to
-
see on Debian is zaproxy, and
-
for zaproxy,
-
I had to do a manual checking, because it is
-
a Java program, and
-
Java has... I really don't like Java, so
-
they bundle like
-
...zaproxy is great software, but
-
they bundle some
-
libraries, and I
-
talked to upstream, and they are very
-
receptive, and they
-
want to help us, but
-
I didn't manage to package it yet,
-
I think I will do it after GSoC
-
but there are
-
some packages that we need to introduce
-
on Debian. Some of the packages that zaproxy
-
upstream is thinking about
-
dropping them, and putting just
on the extensions, because
-
the core doesn't need them
and some of the packages are old
-
and stuff like that, we have
-
there is a lot of problems
that you can have
-
like... there was a
-
package which was GPL licensed
-
but it was linking against
-
OpenSSL, and in order
-
to do that, you have to either add
-
a license exception to your license
-
And I talked to upstream, and
-
it cooperative upstream,
-
it is a software which is used
-
to break
-
WiFi password,
-
like, doing offline cracking
-
and upsream decided to change its license
-
to BSD license
-
so we could release that on Debian. I
-
can't remember right now if it's on the NEW queue
-
or if it already hit
-
unstable, but I think is on the NEW queue.
-
So, in the end,
-
the results are, I made the script,
-
which is going to be used by
-
some time. There are some
-
fixes that can be
-
We have to do on the script to
make it better
-
to make the checking better, because
-
we still have some corner cases where
-
it doesn't work really well,
-
we got some new packages in Debian,
-
which is really good. I have to
-
make some upstream contributions, because
-
for some packages I wrote
-
their manpage, and I sent it
-
to upstream, there was this
-
company of software that
-
changed its licensing to be like
-
correctly compliant with
-
OpenSSL license, and
-
and we got now a better
-
Kali and Debian for its users, because
-
when a package is just
-
in Kali, they don't like
-
to do hardening,
-
that's one example of things that
-
gets better when the package hits Debian
-
because when we enable hardening
-
sometimes we see problems that makes
the package to
-
fail to build, and then we fix that,
-
upload to Debian, and when the package hits
-
unstable, Kali starts
-
taking this package from Debian, and
-
they can use our infrastructure
-
to do some QA
-
and stuff like that, and they
-
there are two people from Kali that I know at least,
-
Raphaël and Sophie, and they work
-
on Debian also, on our team, so
-
when there's a new release, they upload
-
the release on Debian,
-
so Debian users win
-
by that also, and
-
they already did lots of work
-
on their packages, so
-
yes, I think that's
-
the summary of the results
-
Thank you.
-
[ audience clapping ]
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Hello, I am Enkelena Haxhiu
-
I am from the Republic of Kosovo, and
-
I am here to represent my Google Summer of Code
-
project. My mentors are
-
Bruno Milena and Gabriela.
-
So, my project is
-
a Mozilla Firefox
-
web extension to
-
give free and...
-
to give free software alternatives
-
to the apps on the Internet, so to have
-
avoiding non-free
-
apps and sites.
-
So, the goals for this project
-
were that
-
while the user is surfing
-
on the Internet, the moment that he
-
uses a non-free
-
software,
-
my extension will detect it
-
and then give an
-
alternative to it, a free software alternative.
-
The user should be able
-
to stop it when it's annoying,
-
and the notifications should be
-
only once per session,
-
and we wanted to have like a
-
database through self-hosted
-
API, or to use
-
a free software device
-
and then all this database
-
show it on our Web page.
-
I started by making
-
the user experience design,
-
based on that, because
-
should work like, should work fine,
-
I made some sketches and mockups
-
and then the persona
-
and then the finding the bad habits of apps,
-
like research, and
-
I started implementing it by
-
coding it, I used Mozilla
-
API to make my extension
-
communicate with the Web browser API
-
I created a
-
JSON data file, it's like
-
a proof of concept to just take
-
the data, because this is going to be
-
later in a real database.
-
So the code
-
logic, do
-
select and display the alternatives
-
based on the current
-
active website, is that
-
we should get the URL,
-
identify it by sending...
-
Identify it, and then to send
-
to that JSON file, check
-
and, based on
-
that, to give an alternative.
-
If it exists, of course. We did
-
We don't want to annoy the user
-
like, to show too much notifications
-
so we made it only once
-
per session for the current app,
-
and it has the ability to
-
stop and start it. We use the
-
local storage to hold the
-
user settings
-
and then we have to present this
-
free software list through
-
a web page that is generated by
-
that database.
-
This is like a simple diagram
-
of basically what I just said.
-
These are some screenshots with words
-
for example, Dropbox is a nonfree
-
software, and this is
-
the notification that it gets
-
it says, "Dropbox has open source alternatives
-
like seafile",
-
and then, I have here
-
the web page that it gets
-
the extension popup
-
and all these things. This is how it looks like.
-
And then, i made a project website
-
which holds all the data
-
I made the design of it and
-
the frontend and the data generation.
-
I plan to leave this open
-
so developers can add stuff there
-
to the database, and then
-
generates it, and
-
it goes, like, right away to the
-
to the project website.
-
I don't need to hard-code...
-
hard-code it or something.
-
Then I made the documentation of it,
-
I split it into three sections,
-
in the information about the project,
-
general things,
-
what's the purpose, how it works, and
-
the second one is the contribution,
-
how can developers contribute
-
to it, and the third one
-
is about
-
the technical aspects, like
-
debugging, and cloning the repo for new
-
developers. So this is like
-
an example of it.
-
And for the future,
-
I plan to continue my
-
project, even after GSoC
-
the first thing I need to do
-
like, probably now, I am
-
going to put it in the
-
Mozilla Firefox market,
-
and later I can make it
-
for other browsers like Chromium
-
but we need to change the
-
API there, and I thought
-
the package could get in Debian, because
-
while I was here, I learnt about
-
packaging and
-
upstreaming and all that stuff, so
-
I think I am probably going to do that
-
but not for now, because I want
-
my users to be
-
like, all Internet users, not just
-
Debian operating system users.
-
Another thing is that I want
-
it to be integrated with other free
-
software services, like SUSI
-
artificial intelligence, and
-
Thunderbird in upstream
-
SUSI is a
-
speaking and texting artificial
-
intelligence that gives you responses
-
and I plan to use
-
that giving the suggestions
-
by speech.
-
On my extension,
-
with Thunderbird I felt it to be
-
like, to work
-
like in Mozilla, but, you know, when a
-
user gets an e-mail from a non-free side,
-
then it should
-
send a suggestion,
-
"use this, don't use this", like
-
I just basically explained,
-
and with upstream, I thought that
-
all my database should be
-
there, to put it there, and
-
it could help upstream, and it can
-
it could help me.
-
Here, I have my
-
experience with Debian, I heard about Debian
-
last year, in a girl's hackathon
-
and then later
-
in Tirana, in Albania, where
-
in a Debian bugs squashing party,
-
a DD was there, and
-
we planned on
-
-- sorry --
-
working a bit more than
-
With Daniel Pocock we had
-
we made...
-
A speech together, we gave under
-
in the biggest open source conference
-
in the whole Balkans, it was about
-
Free Software. And about my project,
-
I read a whole book to
-
understsand it a little bit more, to be
-
more prepared. And I want to
-
thank the Debian people for giving me this
-
opportunity to talk here, in front of you,
-
and I hope I'll be a DD soon.
-
Thank you!
-
So... Yeah, it's working.
-
So, before... My name is Elena
-
Elena Gjevukaj, and I come from Kosovo.
-
Before I start,
-
to present my project, I want to mention that
-
this year in the GSoC is the first time
-
that our country is participating.
-
It was funny, because even when we had
-
applied for the GSoC, we had
-
to ask Google to add
-
our country in the list, so
-
you know how...
-
We thought that we didn't
-
have any more opportunities
-
or any...
-
we just thought they aren't going to accept us.
-
But hopefully for us, we have
-
a great mentor,
-
Daniel Pocock, I think many of you
-
guys know him,
-
and he helped us
-
with everything that we needed
-
for all of the applications
-
and everything else.
-
So, going back to my project,
-
My project
-
is basically what I just said
-
right now. So, knowing that
-
newcomers to the open source have a lot
-
of problems to,
-
to just set up
-
a development environment
-
and
-
that's why we wanted
-
to create...
-
to create a GUI
-
so my project is a new contributor...
-
contributor wizard
-
and is basically a GUI that
-
could be distributed as a
-
package, and
-
to help the newcomer
-
to Debian and open source
-
to start their work
-
on the open source projects.
-
For example, if you want to
-
apply in GSoC or Outreachy
-
or other programs like this
-
you will need a lot of things
-
because if you are a new person,
-
you are newcoming to Debian, or
-
any other version of
-
Linux, you will have a lot of
-
problems to start up, so
-
what we want to do with this
-
is to help students
-
to run this computer
-
program in their desktop
-
and have to understand
-
everything that they need, for example
-
they will need for sure, how to use
-
IRC, they will need
-
basically a blog to explain
-
their work or add portfolio on it,
-
so they will need
-
a PGP or
-
other things like this
-
that we usually use in open source
-
so, my part of the project
-
in this
-
in this month of
-
the Google Summer of Code,
-
was the blog module,
-
basically, I created
-
a module that will
-
generate automatically
-
...build dynamic and static websites.
-
And the other part
-
of it was that I did a lot of
-
research on what students
-
need for...
-
and we should include in the research
-
Another thing that I want to
-
mention is that students
-
don't know that much...
-
They have problems using the terminal
-
or installing
-
programs when they have usually installed Debian,
-
I will make sure
-
add that type of tutorials, or
-
for example
-
description of something
-
that will help them, how
-
to proceed and apply, and
-
maybe be a successful applicant
-
for GSoC. So, that's it.
-
Thank you!
-
[ audience clapping ]
-
Hello everyone!
-
My name is Diellza Shabani
-
and I also come from Kosovo,
-
I am a student of Computer Science
-
and Engineering,
-
I'm finishing my studies
-
this year hopefully,
-
so I am also doing
-
a Google Summer of Code project,
-
I haven't prepared any slides,
-
because I
-
didn't see it necessary,
-
so, my project's name is
-
"Click to dial up from
-
Linux Desktop", and
-
my mentor is Thomas Levine,
-
he couldn't join us
-
at the conference this year,
-
so, what I have been
-
working on this project is that
-
we are three students
-
in this project, because it's really
-
a big thing, we started
-
working in this last year
-
in the [?] hackathon,
-
in [?],
-
we started doing the project
-
in Python first,
-
we did some
-
pop-ups and some really basic things,
-
...So,
-
we thought to continue that, but
-
now that the project is
-
bigger, and there are three students
-
doing this, it is separated
-
in two different things, and
-
the two other students
-
are doing something else,
-
and we plan to do
-
something like mobile
-
application,
-
but still haven't figured it out.
-
For the moment, we are
-
doing only a website,
-
a Web application,
-
and
-
we are working on
-
the existing projects
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that Google Summer of Code students have
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done before, like Omnitel
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and Lumicall
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I am basically working on them
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and making changes, an doing
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task classes
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and methods, so...
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After we finish that, I think
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we will continue with the website, and
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hopefully,
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because the GSoC is really
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coming to an end,
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and we have not very much time
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left. But...
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After this, we will probably be working
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in doing the mobile app.
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However, this is
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all I have to tell
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right now about my project
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the opportunity to be here and to
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present for you guys.
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Thank you.
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[ audience clapping ]
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OK, so... Can you hear me?
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So, hi everyone!
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I am not actually a Google Summer of Code student,
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but I have been an Outreachy intern
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around one year ago.
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So, first
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before continuing my
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talk, I'd like to ask
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how many of you are coming from
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a social background, and has not
finished for computer science or
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science-related?
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OK, great.
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So we got three other people
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in the audience. So
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I am Kristi Progri, and I am actually,
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I finished my university for
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international affairs and diplomacy
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and in the beginning I thought
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that this was exactly the school,
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that I'd never ever find something
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to do with my life,
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but then, I thought that, OK,
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probably it would be nice
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if I could just merge it with
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something that is tech-related,
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and free software, since during that time
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I was also part of the
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free software community
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I ended up in the end having a diploma
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thesis for on-line diplomacy,
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and this was
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what kind of opened
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the doors further to
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continue, and to get
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to know more
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for political and Internet.
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So, I applied
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in Mozilla
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in a team for taking part
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in the Outreachy, working with the
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diversity and inclusion team there,
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building up the
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strategy for conducting
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first language interviews, since
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one of the barriers that we had during
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all this time was that
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people coming from different...
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different countries
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and not speaking
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everyone by default English, so
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trying to have a strategy
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on how to conduct the language...
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On how to conduct interviews, and
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to grow up communities in the local
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aspect, to really help to
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take further steps to
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all the free software initiatives, and
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everything that's regarding to that.
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So
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this was
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kind of the aspect from the field
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doing on the Outreachy. For those
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who don't know Outreachy, it's
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exactly... It is an intership that
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that lasts for three months,
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it happens twice per year,
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it has
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kind of the same ideology
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as the Google Summer of Code, but
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it's also for people that
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are not students but have
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finished their
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studies.
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and besides Outreachy and
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the Google Summer of Code, there also
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are initiatives that
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help out students
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to continue and
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getting on more knowledge regarding
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the free software, such as
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Rails' Girls Summer of Code,
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I don't know if you have heard about that, it is
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an internship happening on the
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during the summer, it lasts
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for three months,
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three months I think,
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and it's actually
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only regarding coding. But
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until now, I think, for as far
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as I know, Outreachy is the only one
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that can,
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that requires also people that do not have
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technical
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skills, or at least that have
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not finished for it,
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any technical
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subject or degree.
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So, this was also
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my short presentation
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to say, and the
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last one I think for the session, so
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there is anyone in the audience
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who'd like to make a question, any
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suggestion or comment, please feel free
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and thank you very much for
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being here.
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[ audience clapping ]
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[Delib:] Hello. Jaminy,
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So many of us are so interested in the
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the edges of Debian,
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and who is coming, and are they
staying
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and you have met
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so many mentees,
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and talked with so many mentors. Could you share
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with us a little bit about
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what is working well and
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what might work a little better
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in the future?
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[Jaminy:] So, there are many newcomers
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coming from Google Summer of Code,
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I think the main thing
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that actually happens is they should be
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keep motivated and keep working on
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after the Google Summer of Code,
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I feel that would be one of the
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major things they have to do
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even after the Google Summer of Code
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[Delib:] Do you have ideas of how
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community members or the mentors
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could do things differently, so that
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they could stay more motivated?
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Stay more interested?
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[Jaminy:] I think the mentors, it's all about the communication,
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I think they should keep communicating
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with the students and keep them
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giving suggestions
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and advising
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them, how can they improve further on
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their projects,
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and how they can keep moving
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keep... Moving on
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further with the project.
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[Delib:] So, listening to what their interests are,
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and giving them ideas on how to
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pursue those interests?
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[Jaminy:] Yes.
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[Tassia:] I have a question: Is it
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...I have the impression that I might be wrong, so
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[Jaminy:] Do you have questions for me, or
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for students? [Tassia:] For you.
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[Jaminy:] OK.
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[Tassia:] Sorry [both laugh]
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But just, for
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what I've been following, for
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the past years, I thing that when students
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enter work with a team
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my impression is that it's easier
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for them to continue working afterwards.
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Is it
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in comparison when
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there are ad-hoc projects
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that some times don't
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continue being developed,
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and I think,
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then the motivation might probably...
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Do you perceive it? Or
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you don't think it makes sense?
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[Jaminy:] Currently I'm not, but I hope
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to continue after my...
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Now I'm currently doing early career,
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so I would prefer continuing
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later.
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[Tassia:] No, sorry, I think you didn't understand my question.
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It was about the projects
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within teams,
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like, lets say, the students that work with
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the Perl team, or that work inside
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another team
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in comparison with just
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one mentor and one
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mentee
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and if that
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reflects on the
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motivation of the student to continue
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doing work for Debian
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afterwards. Do you thing there is
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a relation, or not?
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[Jaminy:] Yes, I think there
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is, I mean, the
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mentor-mentee relations keeps
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going on?
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Eventually they get your question probably?
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[Delib:] Do you think it's easier for students
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to be part of a team, instead of
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just one mentor?
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[Jaminy:] Yes, I think they
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get valious knowledge, so it's better to
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be in a team
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than sticking to one mentor.
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[Andreas:] Do we have some
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statistics? How many of
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the students have entered Debian?
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or not? Because I have had three
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GSoC students, and three Outreachy
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students, and
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none of them
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really remained there. They are intererested,
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they are using Debian, but
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my experience
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or the result of my experience
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was that I tried to give them tasks
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which are easy to end,
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which are small tasks,
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and if they go, then that's not
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... How many people stayed in Debian?
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[Jaminy:] You mean...
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You mean, from the past?
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[Andreas:] How many people stayed in Debian?
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of the students?
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From the past, yes.
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[?:] I think you can answer
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after the session, because
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we run out of time.
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[Jaminy:] OK. I'd like to take this opportunity
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to thank all the mentors
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who made this program successful.
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And you can feel free to talk to students
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after the session, and give them
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suggestions or feedback.
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Thank you!
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[ Audience clapping ]