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    [Talk meister] Grab a seat please, there's
    lots of seats around here, or there.
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    It's my pleasure to introduce our current
    and new DPL,
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    Neil McGovern for his annual bits from
    the DPL
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    [Applause]
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    [Neil] Thanks very much, hi everyone.
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    I'm aware that this talk is due to cut in
    to lunch so I'll try and keep it slightly
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    ... in to dinner, so I'll keep it slightly
    more refined [laughter]
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    so people can get their food early.
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    Hopefully everyone's ok with that anyway.
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    I'm also kind of glad that it's in this
    slot when it was originally proposed
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    and I got my initial time slot it was
    going to be a 9am slot just after the
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    cheese and wine party so I [laughter]
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    probably wouldn't expect quite so many
    people as we have here today.
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    So, welcome everyone, this final day of
    the open weekend. Anyone who isn't a
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    regular person, hi and welcome to Debian!
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    Welcome to the huge Debian family which
    is certainly growing all the time and
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    is something that's really good to see.
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    It's quite fantastic that there's just so
    many people involved, especially this year
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    When I last checked the stats I think we
    had 383 people who had so far checked in
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    slightly less than for DebConf 7, but I'm
    certain... [laughter]
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    I'm certain over the next few days that'll
    go up and definitely surpass us.
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    I just want to remind everyone what the
    size of the project we are.
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    It's such a huge effort, one of the
    biggest open source and free software
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    projects in the world.
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    Combining around 1000 developers, a few
    thousand maintainers and contributors as
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    well, and also our users.
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    It's really a huge effort that we manage
    to still be here after 22 years and still
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    be going strong.
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    Hopefully a DebConf in future will look
    a little bit like that
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    I think the orga team might be slightly
    more stressed if we end up with numbers
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    but what a fantastic thing.
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    Also over the last few years we've had 42
    new project members have joined us.
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    This is over the last year, we've had all
    these people.
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    Huge welcome to everyone there. [Applause]
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    Especially one or two on there which I
    decided to get back into doing application
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    management, especially for our non-
    uploading developers as well, which has
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    been a huge boost to really grow where
    we're going.
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    Also welcome back. I've noticed a few
    people this year who I haven't seen in a
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    few years, so stand up if you've been away
    for a few years and you're returning
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    I know there's certainly some people,
    excellent,
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    Tolimar? [laughter] There he is!
    [Applause]
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    Kris Rose? Is he here? [points] Excellent.
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    Was active before I even joined Debian,
    and essentially has come back again, so
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    it's great to see everyone back and thanks
    very much for remembering us.
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    There's been a few new people as well.
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    Very, very new people who I haven't kinda
    seen around before in previous DebConfs
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    Where did all these children come from?
    I think there must have been something...
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    [laughter]
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    I think the Switzerland DebConf, there
    might have been something in the water,
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    because it's suddenly been a huge... it's
    absolutely fantastic to see not only
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    our usual developers around, but their
    families as well, and new people being
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    introduced to Debian and to technology.
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    The TecKids workshops I think are
    absolutely fantastic initiative I think
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    that really helps broaden Debian and what
    we do.
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    So, when I first became DPL, I always knew
    Debian was a big thing in free software,
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    in the communities and things we do.
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    I went along to my running club
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    and we went for a run,
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    went to the pub afterwards as you do in
    the UK,
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    you can't have sport without excessive
    alcohol consumption afterwards so it seems
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    and about 7 or 8 people all came up to me
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    and said "Hey, congratulations on being
    DPL, I'm going to buy you a pint!", which
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    [laughter]
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    which is great
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    So if anyone wants to run for DPL you get
    free beer, this is a good thing.
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    But it did really impress on me that
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    Debian's a big deal, it's a really huge
    deal.
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    If you have a look at some of the latest
    server stats for web servers,
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    Debian's number one.
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    It's about 32% of Linux distributions, and
    and if you combine Ubuntu as well, and
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    all our derivatives, we're about 62% of
    all linux servers out there
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    Basically Debian really does run the world
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    Not only that, but the amount of embedded
    devices that Debian's involved with
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    from, as mentioned before, the HP talk,
    running huge teleco systems
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    to assistive devices. I know Andy's around
    somewhere.
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    That product is essentially being based on
    Debian and it's a speak and spell type
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    device.
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    It's for people who can't talk.
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    You have a little keyboard, you type in
    what you want to say, it has predictive
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    technology in there, and then it gives
    people a voice.
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    Debian is literally being used to give
    people voices who can't speak.
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    This is the sort of impact that Debian
    have, and free software can have
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    on the world.
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    A few things happened, certainly over the
    last year.
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    Apparently we released.
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    I was only DPL for about a week, but I'm
    going to take credit for this
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    like any good politician, anyway.
    [laughter]
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    I've already had a stable release.
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    This has hugely welcomed.
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    I don't know if anyone followed the DevOps
    Reactions tumblr page, but they were
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    following along and huge cheers from
    everyone when Debian releases.
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    It is a big deal.
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    Strangely I also saw a press release that
    that said they're
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    having a party to celebrate the release
    of Debian 8 at Linux Fest North West,
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    But this press release was from Microsoft
    [laughter]
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    I thought it might be a spoof at first,
    but I diligently checked the certificates
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    and domains and made sure it went back.
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    I think people, certainly large
    organisations are realising now that this
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    open source, free software thing isn't
    going away
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    This isn't something that they can just
    ignore, or they can fight against.
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    This is something that they have to
    embrace
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    Certainly for someone like Microsoft to
    throw away a load of cake and do a press
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    release because Debian's released is
    something I never thought I'd see when I
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    first joined the Debian Project.
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    We've had some new good things which have
    started recently as well
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    Fantastic areas if anyone knows what this
    might be for a current initiative that's
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    going on?
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    [Picture of four similar potted plants]
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    I was trying to do reproducible builds.
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    They all sort of look the same, so near
    enough [laughter]
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    It's the nearest I could find on Flickr to
    something being reproducible.
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    These are all CC by the way.
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    So this is perhaps a bit of a better slide
    to explain just how impressive it is
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    where we've got.
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    I don't know if everyone here's aware of
    reproducible builds and what this is
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    trying to do, and the importance of it.
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    When you get a source package
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    and you produce a binary from that
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    there hasn't traditionally been a way of
    knowing that what you've produced here
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    comes from this source package and it
    hasn't been tampered with.
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    This is incredibly important for the trust
    that people have in Debian
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    and how we produce things
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    So if we're able to say "Look, this thing
    here has definitely come from here,
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    look we've rebuilt it again, you can check
    for yourself, it comes from here.",
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    then people can trust Debian as this
    platform for where we run everyone's
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    computers.
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    I'm quite impressed with the remarkable
    progress we've seen here.
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    From zero to a huge share of things being
    reproducable and that work I'm sure will
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    continue, especially thanks to the Linux
    Foundation's grants as well in supporting
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    this progress.
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    I did a "ask me anything" recently and it
    was one of the things that came up as
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    being a hugely popular thing that Debian
    is doing and that we're driving forward.
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    Not just for Debian itself but for all
    distributions and making sure we're
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    able to do that.
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    Interestingly I was also asked what I'm
    most jealous of other distributions and
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    I think I said the Arch wiki because it is
    pretty good. [laughter]
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    Often when I'm on #debian and answering
    questions then it comes up with the best
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    answers a lot of the time.
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    But, hey, I'm rubbish at writing
    documentation so...
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    Another effort we've come up with is ddebs
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    Ability to automatically have debug
    symbols
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    Something which a few other distributions
    have had for a while and it's really,
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    really good to see that this sort of
    effort is happening as well.
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    If Niels is around.... well done!
    [applause]
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    Not the only one but.
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    So, what's next?
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    What's the next things that Debian can do?
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    Where can we go from here and what sort of
    ideas can we have?
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    There's a whole range of things we can do
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    but I'm just going to pick up two or three
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    that we want to kinda concentrate on and
    see where we're going.
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    First, PPAs. [picture of a parcel]
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    It's near enough a package, that'll do me.
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    I've got a BoF scheduled on Friday, to try
    and look at what we're doing with this and
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    trying to finish it off.
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    It was in my platform as something I want
    push and it's something I believe will
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    really help the development of Debian.
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    Now, it's slightly different from Ubuntu
    PPAs as they're well known.
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    It's not going to be somewhere that you
    can just dump random software and people
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    install various quality packages.
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    This is going to be a very useful tool to
    aid Debian development itself.
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    As far as I remember, most of the work is
    actually done now.
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    Huge thanks to the FTP Masters and DSA
    etc for this.
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    So the actual code is there in DAK.
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    The only missing bits is the control
    functions,
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    how you create new PPAs and the wannabuild
    system and we build stuff and
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    touch releases.
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    So it is going to, hopefully, come any
    minute now
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    and something that we will hopefully be
    able to use and will ease the,
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    sometimes the pain of when we freeze.
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    Sometimes the ability to easily create
    backports
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    or even to ease library transitions.
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    If you can create a PPA where you stage
    your library, check everything works and
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    you can fix all your breakages then that
    should help unstable and testing as well.
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    One on outreach I guess is near enough.
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    It's kinda interesting, I've mentioned
    that Debian is in a huge position to touch
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    many people's lives and it was slightly
    worrying that compared to the amount of
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    Jessie release parties we had all over the
    world,
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    I video called into one in India for
    example and it was globally popular.
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    But all of our sprints have been in
    Europe.
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    So we haven't had some in North America.
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    We haven't had any in South America.
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    And there's huge areas here we can really
    try and push and bring free software
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    and really help push Debian to be the go
    to place in various countries rather
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    thank keeping it a Europe or sometimes
    even North American market.
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    And Debian's in a great place because we
    are a community distribution.
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    We try and aim to be the universal
    operating system.
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    Someone that anyone can come along, join,
    help out in whatever way they want to,
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    be it packaging, or doing wonderful press
    work for example.
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    [pointed look to the side] Not mentioning
    that press work at all.
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    She's not even looking at me.
    [Francesca] Hey!
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    [Laughter]
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    [Neil] She's going to volunteer to do more
    press work in future again.
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    So it's an area people can get involved in
    really easily and because we're
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    distributed, because we work online, it is
    natural that people can come and join us
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    and we should encourage that, and we
    should try and reach out and try and reach
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    more people.
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    Third area, the final one here is around
    accessibility.
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    It's kind of a sad fact that free software
    is about 10 years behind proprietary and
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    commercial offerings.
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    There's a reason that iPhones are hugely
    popular with people who need accessibility
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    options - they are just fantastic compared
    with what you can get normally.
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    I don't believe that it is right that
    people should have to use proprietary
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    software, which they pay for, to access
    computing, and to access the web, and to
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    be able to explore what we all have.
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    We should be able to put in effort, so
    there's certainly an area which we can
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    really make a difference to people and try
    and drive forward.
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    To bring computing to everyone, rather
    than those who are fortunate enough to be
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    able to see a screen well, or be rich
    enough to be able to pay for a license or
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    buy a computer or system from a
    proprietary company.
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    There is no reason why we shouldn't be
    able to do this.
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    We are able to speak and work directly
    with people who require accessibility
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    features, and let those people design it
    in a way that is much easier than any
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    proprietary company.
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    So it's an area I think we can try and
    try and sort of push quite a bit.
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    Finally, a bit of a huge thank you from me
    really.
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    It was about... So I've been involved with
    Debian since about 2001 or so, and doing
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    loads of different roles.
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    Originally doing the web apps policy,
    which never really got beyond draft
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    because web apps are terrible, terrible
    things that don't really work with
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    distributions that well.
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    Then with Joey Hess, doing testing
    security team and setting up that,
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    eventually that led in to many, many years
    of release management. [shakes head]
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    [heckling]
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    And then many years of being release
    manager as well.
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    And then after that Tolimar found me at
    DebConf in Banja Luka and found out I
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    could write a press release and roped me
    in to doing bits there
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    but after that I was sort of feeling a
    bit, I don't know, burned out.
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    I didn't really know what else to do with
    the project.
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    I think this happens to everyone.
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    It's a huge reminder each time when I come
    to DebConf and I meet people and how
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    fortunate I am, and we all are to be
    involved with such a fantastic project,
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    something that really is changing people's
    lives,
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    something that is breaking the
    traditional proprietary market
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    and enabling people to have greater access
    to computing
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    and it's really fortunate that I'm in a
    position to help lead this project
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    and to do everything for you.
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    Finally, I think I mentioned, I think Phil
    Hands - is he around?
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    He probably has a small child trying to
    throw-up on him for anyone who saw the
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    morning announcements today.
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    He did kind of joke about the next DPL
    hustings,
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    he can just write an auto-responder bot to
    any questions which is
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    "That sounds interesting, I look forward
    to seeing the results"
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    [laughter]
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    Generally I think that we should be able
    to try things,
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    so if anyone has any ideas, stuff they
    want to do, Debian has the money,
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    let's go try some stuff.
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    If we want a sprint to work on
    accessibility in say, Hong Hong
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    as there's a huge issue there, or to
    improve our localisation, then let's
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    do that.
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    We have the money to do it.
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    We have, hopefully, the interest around,
    so let's go try things.
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    As promised, I thought I'd keep things
    nice and short.
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    As everyone seemed to be getting hungry.
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    I was going to leave a bit for Q&A, if
    anyone had any questions,
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    or wanted to put me on the spot about
    anything or random thoughts anyone had,
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    then I'd certainly be very happy to answer
    any of those.
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    Someone has to be first.
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    Otherwise my timing's really, really out.
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    Oh good. [clappiung]
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    Lucky me.
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    Hello! What's your name and where are you
    from? [laughter]
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    [Steve] Oh, you want me to say something?
    [Neil] Yeah, go on.
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    [Steve] What is your single highest
    priority thing that you think we should
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    all be working on?
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    [Neil] Getting the next stable release
    out, to be honest.
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    This is what we do, as a distribution.
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    We release things.
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    We make software.
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    We give it to our users, Debian is famed
    for its stability.
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    We backport our security fixes.
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    People can rely on Debian, they can trust
    us to produce a rock solid distribution.
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    Something that people can, in some cases,
    yes, derive works from.
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    If they don't like what we're doing they
    can tweak it.
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    There was the huge thing that came up when
    Devuan came up saying that
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    "Oh, we're going to fork Debian and it's
    going to be terrible"
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    It's like fine! There's over 120 forks of
    Debian out there already, that's fine!
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    Please, come and do this, we're happy with
    that.
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    Being able to produce this reliable,
    stable operating system that we only
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    release when we're ready, which happens to
    apparently be about every two years now
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    is something that everyone relies on us
    being able to do,
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    and they can trust us to produce that for
    them.
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    Essentially putting out releases is one of
    the main reasons we're here.
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    To get that software into the hands of
    users.
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    There's loads of other stuff of course
    which we can do to try and improve and
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    push forward free software in general, but
    we are essentially a distribution.
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    Our aim is to collect software, and then
    distribute it,
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    and one of the best ways to do that is
    releases.
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    [Steve] Good answer.
    [Neil] Good!
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    [Joshua] What's your favourite thing about
    Debian?
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    [laughter]
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    [Unknown] You're not allowed to say
    releases.
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    [Neil] I'm apparently not allowed to say
    the kilt as well
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    [Bdale] You also already said free beer so
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    [Neil] And free beer, yeah.
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    It has to be the people that I'm involved
    with.
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    The project has enabled me to meet so
    many awesome people and basically have
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    the career I've had so far as well.
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    There has always been a thing about being
    involved visibly with and open source
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    project that helps you professionally as
    well.
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    I got my first job because I was involved
    with free software.
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    I then got my next job because I was a
    Debian developer and could put together
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    Linux systems easily, and knew how to
    munge these various crazy different
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    projects which are written in a hundred
    different libraries,
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    using different compatibilities together
    to make something whole.
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    Then my current job I got because
    essentially I was involved in doing
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    management-y type functions in Debian.
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    As I say to people when they ask
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    "Where's the money in free software? How
    can I create a career with it?"
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    It's basically fairly easy. Get stuck in.
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    Go and do something.
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    Find something interesting that interests
    you,
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    and that you're able to be the world
    expert at, and you can do that.
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    On an entirely personal view, some of my
    closest friends are the Debian people I've
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    worked with for many many years and I
    certainly wouldn't have moved to my
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    current city, or know half the people I do
    if it wasn't for that.
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    The Debian family is a large one, that
    occasionally gets together at DebConf
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    and Christmas, and sometimes has huge blow
    up arguments,
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    possibly over the turkey or the init
    system, something like that [laughter]
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    but we do all come together.
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    We have huge contentious decisions
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    but we're still here.
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    We've had huge arguments with everyone
    trying to stab each other, but at the end
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    of the day we're still here, we're still
    the Debian project.
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    And sort of like that it's something we
    love to be associated with
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    and it's everyone around that really makes
    that.
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    [Joshua] Thank you
    [Applause]
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    [Neil] Anyone else? No?
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    Oh oh.
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    I'll just stop you there - backups are
    really really important, [laughter]
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    so we should definitely concentrate on
    backups.
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    [Lars] So what's the biggest risk to
    Debian you see in the 5-10 year span?
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Title:
Bits_from_the_DPL.webm
Video Language:
English, British
Team:
Debconf
Projekt:
2015_debconf15

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