[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Talk meister] Grab a seat please, there's\Nlots of seats around here, or there. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's my pleasure to introduce our current\Nand new DPL, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Neil McGovern for his annual bits from\Nthe DPL Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Applause] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Neil] Thanks very much, hi everyone. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm aware that this talk is due to cut in\Nto lunch so I'll try and keep it slightly Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,... in to dinner, so I'll keep it slightly\Nmore refined [laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so people can get their food early. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hopefully everyone's ok with that anyway. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm also kind of glad that it's in this\Nslot when it was originally proposed Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got my initial time slot it was\Ngoing to be a 9am slot just after the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cheese and wine party so I [laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,probably wouldn't expect quite so many\Npeople as we have here today. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, welcome everyone, this final day of\Nthe open weekend. Anyone who isn't a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,regular person, hi and welcome to Debian! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to the huge Debian family which\Nis certainly growing all the time and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something that's really good to see. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's quite fantastic that there's just so\Nmany people involved, especially this year Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I last checked the stats I think we\Nhad 383 people who had so far checked in Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slightly less than for DebConf 7, but I'm\Ncertain... [laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm certain over the next few days that'll\Ngo up and definitely surpass us. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want to remind everyone what the\Nsize of the project we are. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's such a huge effort, one of the\Nbiggest open source and free software Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projects in the world. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Combining around 1000 developers, a few\Nthousand maintainers and contributors as Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well, and also our users. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really a huge effort that we manage\Nto still be here after 22 years and still Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be going strong. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hopefully a DebConf in future will look\Na little bit like that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the orga team might be slightly\Nmore stressed if we end up with numbers Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but what a fantastic thing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also over the last few years we've had 42\Nnew project members have joined us. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is over the last year, we've had all\Nthese people. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Huge welcome to everyone there. [Applause] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially one or two on there which I\Ndecided to get back into doing application Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,management, especially for our non-\Nuploading developers as well, which has Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been a huge boost to really grow where\Nwe're going. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Also welcome back. I've noticed a few\Npeople this year who I haven't seen in a Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,few years, so stand up if you've been away\Nfor a few years and you're returning Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know there's certainly some people,\Nexcellent, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tolimar? [laughter] There he is!\N[Applause] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kris Rose? Is he here? [points] Excellent. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was active before I even joined Debian,\Nand essentially has come back again, so Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's great to see everyone back and thanks\Nvery much for remembering us. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's been a few new people as well. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very, very new people who I haven't kinda\Nseen around before in previous DebConfs Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where did all these children come from?\NI think there must have been something... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think the Switzerland DebConf, there\Nmight have been something in the water, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's suddenly been a huge... it's\Nabsolutely fantastic to see not only Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our usual developers around, but their\Nfamilies as well, and new people being Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,introduced to Debian and to technology. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The TecKids workshops I think are\Nabsolutely fantastic initiative I think Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that really helps broaden Debian and what\Nwe do. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when I first became DPL, I always knew\NDebian was a big thing in free software, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the communities and things we do. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went along to my running club Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we went for a run, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,went to the pub afterwards as you do in\Nthe UK, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can't have sport without excessive\Nalcohol consumption afterwards so it seems Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and about 7 or 8 people all came up to me Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said "Hey, congratulations on being\NDPL, I'm going to buy you a pint!", which Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is great Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if anyone wants to run for DPL you get\Nfree beer, this is a good thing. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it did really impress on me that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Debian's a big deal, it's a really huge\Ndeal. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have a look at some of the latest\Nserver stats for web servers, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Debian's number one. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's about 32% of Linux distributions, and\Nand if you combine Ubuntu as well, and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all our derivatives, we're about 62% of\Nall linux servers out there Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Basically Debian really does run the world Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not only that, but the amount of embedded\Ndevices that Debian's involved with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from, as mentioned before, the HP talk,\Nrunning huge teleco systems Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to assistive devices. I know Andy's around\Nsomewhere. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That product is essentially being based on\NDebian and it's a speak and spell type Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,device. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's for people who can't talk. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have a little keyboard, you type in\Nwhat you want to say, it has predictive Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,technology in there, and then it gives\Npeople a voice. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Debian is literally being used to give\Npeople voices who can't speak. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the sort of impact that Debian\Nhave, and free software can have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the world. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few things happened, certainly over the\Nlast year. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Apparently we released. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was only DPL for about a week, but I'm\Ngoing to take credit for this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like any good politician, anyway.\N[laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've already had a stable release. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This has hugely welcomed. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if anyone followed the DevOps\NReactions tumblr page, but they were Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,following along and huge cheers from\Neveryone when Debian releases. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a big deal. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Strangely I also saw a press release that\Nthat said they're Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having a party to celebrate the release\Nof Debian 8 at Linux Fest North West, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But this press release was from Microsoft\N[laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought it might be a spoof at first,\Nbut I diligently checked the certificates Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and domains and made sure it went back. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think people, certainly large\Norganisations are realising now that this Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,open source, free software thing isn't\Ngoing away Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This isn't something that they can just\Nignore, or they can fight against. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is something that they have to\Nembrace Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Certainly for someone like Microsoft to\Nthrow away a load of cake and do a press Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,release because Debian's released is\Nsomething I never thought I'd see when I Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first joined the Debian Project. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've had some new good things which have\Nstarted recently as well Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fantastic areas if anyone knows what this\Nmight be for a current initiative that's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going on? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Picture of four similar potted plants] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was trying to do reproducible builds. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They all sort of look the same, so near\Nenough [laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the nearest I could find on Flickr to\Nsomething being reproducible. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are all CC by the way. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this is perhaps a bit of a better slide\Nto explain just how impressive it is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we've got. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know if everyone here's aware of\Nreproducible builds and what this is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to do, and the importance of it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you get a source package Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you produce a binary from that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there hasn't traditionally been a way of\Nknowing that what you've produced here Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes from this source package and it\Nhasn't been tampered with. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is incredibly important for the trust\Nthat people have in Debian Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how we produce things Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if we're able to say "Look, this thing\Nhere has definitely come from here, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,look we've rebuilt it again, you can check\Nfor yourself, it comes from here.", Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then people can trust Debian as this\Nplatform for where we run everyone's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,computers. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm quite impressed with the remarkable\Nprogress we've seen here. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From zero to a huge share of things being\Nreproducable and that work I'm sure will Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue, especially thanks to the Linux\NFoundation's grants as well in supporting Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this progress. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did a "ask me anything" recently and it\Nwas one of the things that came up as Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being a hugely popular thing that Debian\Nis doing and that we're driving forward. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not just for Debian itself but for all\Ndistributions and making sure we're Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to do that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Interestingly I was also asked what I'm\Nmost jealous of other distributions and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I said the Arch wiki because it is\Npretty good. [laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Often when I'm on #debian and answering\Nquestions then it comes up with the best Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,answers a lot of the time. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, hey, I'm rubbish at writing\Ndocumentation so... Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another effort we've come up with is ddebs Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ability to automatically have debug\Nsymbols Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something which a few other distributions\Nhave had for a while and it's really, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really good to see that this sort of\Neffort is happening as well. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If Niels is around.... well done!\N[applause] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not the only one but. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, what's next? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the next things that Debian can do? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where can we go from here and what sort of\Nideas can we have? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a whole range of things we can do Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm just going to pick up two or three Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we want to kinda concentrate on and\Nsee where we're going. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, PPAs. [picture of a parcel] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's near enough a package, that'll do me. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've got a BoF scheduled on Friday, to try\Nand look at what we're doing with this and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to finish it off. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was in my platform as something I want\Npush and it's something I believe will Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really help the development of Debian. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, it's slightly different from Ubuntu\NPPAs as they're well known. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not going to be somewhere that you\Ncan just dump random software and people Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,install various quality packages. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is going to be a very useful tool to\Naid Debian development itself. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As far as I remember, most of the work is\Nactually done now. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Huge thanks to the FTP Masters and DSA\Netc for this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the actual code is there in DAK. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only missing bits is the control\Nfunctions, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how you create new PPAs and the wannabuild\Nsystem and we build stuff and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,touch releases. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it is going to, hopefully, come any\Nminute now Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and something that we will hopefully be\Nable to use and will ease the, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes the pain of when we freeze. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes the ability to easily create\Nbackports Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or even to ease library transitions. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you can create a PPA where you stage\Nyour library, check everything works and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can fix all your breakages then that\Nshould help unstable and testing as well. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One on outreach I guess is near enough. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kinda interesting, I've mentioned\Nthat Debian is in a huge position to touch Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many people's lives and it was slightly\Nworrying that compared to the amount of Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jessie release parties we had all over the\Nworld, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I video called into one in India for\Nexample and it was globally popular. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But all of our sprints have been in\NEurope. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we haven't had some in North America. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We haven't had any in South America. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's huge areas here we can really\Ntry and push and bring free software Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and really help push Debian to be the go\Nto place in various countries rather Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank keeping it a Europe or sometimes\Neven North American market. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Debian's in a great place because we\Nare a community distribution. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We try and aim to be the universal\Noperating system. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone that anyone can come along, join,\Nhelp out in whatever way they want to, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be it packaging, or doing wonderful press\Nwork for example. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[pointed look to the side] Not mentioning\Nthat press work at all. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's not even looking at me.\N[Francesca] Hey! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Neil] She's going to volunteer to do more\Npress work in future again. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's an area people can get involved in\Nreally easily and because we're Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distributed, because we work online, it is\Nnatural that people can come and join us Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we should encourage that, and we\Nshould try and reach out and try and reach Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more people. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Third area, the final one here is around\Naccessibility. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of a sad fact that free software\Nis about 10 years behind proprietary and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commercial offerings. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a reason that iPhones are hugely\Npopular with people who need accessibility Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,options - they are just fantastic compared\Nwith what you can get normally. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't believe that it is right that\Npeople should have to use proprietary Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,software, which they pay for, to access\Ncomputing, and to access the web, and to Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be able to explore what we all have. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should be able to put in effort, so\Nthere's certainly an area which we can Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really make a difference to people and try\Nand drive forward. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To bring computing to everyone, rather\Nthan those who are fortunate enough to be Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,able to see a screen well, or be rich\Nenough to be able to pay for a license or Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buy a computer or system from a\Nproprietary company. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There is no reason why we shouldn't be\Nable to do this. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are able to speak and work directly\Nwith people who require accessibility Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,features, and let those people design it\Nin a way that is much easier than any Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,proprietary company. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's an area I think we can try and\Ntry and sort of push quite a bit. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, a bit of a huge thank you from me\Nreally. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was about... So I've been involved with\NDebian since about 2001 or so, and doing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,loads of different roles. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Originally doing the web apps policy,\Nwhich never really got beyond draft Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because web apps are terrible, terrible\Nthings that don't really work with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,distributions that well. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then with Joey Hess, doing testing\Nsecurity team and setting up that, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eventually that led in to many, many years\Nof release management. [shakes head] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[heckling] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then many years of being release\Nmanager as well. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then after that Tolimar found me at\NDebConf in Banja Luka and found out I Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could write a press release and roped me\Nin to doing bits there Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but after that I was sort of feeling a\Nbit, I don't know, burned out. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't really know what else to do with\Nthe project. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think this happens to everyone. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a huge reminder each time when I come\Nto DebConf and I meet people and how Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fortunate I am, and we all are to be\Ninvolved with such a fantastic project, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that really is changing people's\Nlives, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that is breaking the\Ntraditional proprietary market Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and enabling people to have greater access\Nto computing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's really fortunate that I'm in a\Nposition to help lead this project Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to do everything for you. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, I think I mentioned, I think Phil\NHands - is he around? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He probably has a small child trying to\Nthrow-up on him for anyone who saw the Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,morning announcements today. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did kind of joke about the next DPL\Nhustings, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he can just write an auto-responder bot to\Nany questions which is Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"That sounds interesting, I look forward\Nto seeing the results" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Generally I think that we should be able\Nto try things, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if anyone has any ideas, stuff they\Nwant to do, Debian has the money, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's go try some stuff. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we want a sprint to work on\Naccessibility in say, Hong Hong Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as there's a huge issue there, or to\Nimprove our localisation, then let's Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have the money to do it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have, hopefully, the interest around,\Nso let's go try things. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As promised, I thought I'd keep things\Nnice and short. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As everyone seemed to be getting hungry. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was going to leave a bit for Q&A, if\Nanyone had any questions, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or wanted to put me on the spot about\Nanything or random thoughts anyone had, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then I'd certainly be very happy to answer\Nany of those. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone has to be first. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Otherwise my timing's really, really out. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh good. [clappiung] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lucky me. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello! What's your name and where are you\Nfrom? [laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Steve] Oh, you want me to say something?\N[Neil] Yeah, go on. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Steve] What is your single highest\Npriority thing that you think we should Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all be working on? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Neil] Getting the next stable release\Nout, to be honest. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what we do, as a distribution. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We release things. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We make software. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We give it to our users, Debian is famed\Nfor its stability. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We backport our security fixes. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People can rely on Debian, they can trust\Nus to produce a rock solid distribution. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something that people can, in some cases,\Nyes, derive works from. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they don't like what we're doing they\Ncan tweak it. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was the huge thing that came up when\NDevuan came up saying that Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Oh, we're going to fork Debian and it's\Ngoing to be terrible" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like fine! There's over 120 forks of\NDebian out there already, that's fine! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Please, come and do this, we're happy with\Nthat. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Being able to produce this reliable,\Nstable operating system that we only Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,release when we're ready, which happens to\Napparently be about every two years now Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is something that everyone relies on us\Nbeing able to do, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they can trust us to produce that for\Nthem. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Essentially putting out releases is one of\Nthe main reasons we're here. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To get that software into the hands of\Nusers. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's loads of other stuff of course\Nwhich we can do to try and improve and Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,push forward free software in general, but\Nwe are essentially a distribution. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our aim is to collect software, and then\Ndistribute it, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of the best ways to do that is\Nreleases. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Steve] Good answer.\N[Neil] Good! Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Joshua] What's your favourite thing about\NDebian? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Unknown] You're not allowed to say\Nreleases. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Neil] I'm apparently not allowed to say\Nthe kilt as well Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bdale] You also already said free beer so Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Neil] And free beer, yeah. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It has to be the people that I'm involved\Nwith. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The project has enabled me to meet so\Nmany awesome people and basically have Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the career I've had so far as well. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There has always been a thing about being\Ninvolved visibly with and open source Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,project that helps you professionally as\Nwell. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got my first job because I was involved\Nwith free software. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I then got my next job because I was a\NDebian developer and could put together Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Linux systems easily, and knew how to\Nmunge these various crazy different Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,projects which are written in a hundred\Ndifferent libraries, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using different compatibilities together\Nto make something whole. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then my current job I got because\Nessentially I was involved in doing Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,management-y type functions in Debian. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As I say to people when they ask Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Where's the money in free software? How\Ncan I create a career with it?" Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's basically fairly easy. Get stuck in. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Go and do something. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Find something interesting that interests\Nyou, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that you're able to be the world\Nexpert at, and you can do that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On an entirely personal view, some of my\Nclosest friends are the Debian people I've Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worked with for many many years and I\Ncertainly wouldn't have moved to my Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,current city, or know half the people I do\Nif it wasn't for that. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Debian family is a large one, that\Noccasionally gets together at DebConf Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Christmas, and sometimes has huge blow\Nup arguments, Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possibly over the turkey or the init\Nsystem, something like that [laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we do all come together. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have huge contentious decisions Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we're still here. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've had huge arguments with everyone\Ntrying to stab each other, but at the end Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the day we're still here, we're still\Nthe Debian project. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sort of like that it's something we\Nlove to be associated with Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's everyone around that really makes\Nthat. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Joshua] Thank you\N[Applause] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Neil] Anyone else? No? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh oh. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll just stop you there - backups are\Nreally really important, [laughter] Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we should definitely concentrate on\Nbackups. Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Lars] So what's the biggest risk to\NDebian you see in the 5-10 year span? Dialogue: 0,9:59:59.99,9:59:59.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[[[25:48]]]