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[Talk meister] Grab a seat please, there's[br]lots of seats around here, or there.

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It's my pleasure to introduce our current[br]and new DPL,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Neil McGovern for his annual bits from[br]the DPL

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[Applause]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
[Neil] Thanks very much, hi everyone.

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I'm aware that this talk is due to cut in[br]to lunch so I'll try and keep it slightly

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
... in to dinner, so I'll keep it slightly[br]more refined [laughter]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so people can get their food early.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Hopefully everyone's ok with that anyway.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I'm also kind of glad that it's in this[br]slot when it was originally proposed

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and I got my initial time slot it was[br]going to be a 9am slot just after the

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
cheese and wine party so I [laughter]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
probably wouldn't expect quite so many[br]people as we have here today.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So, welcome everyone, this final day of[br]the open weekend. Anyone who isn't a

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
regular person, hi and welcome to Debian!

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Welcome to the huge Debian family which[br]is certainly growing all the time and

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
is something that's really good to see.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's quite fantastic that there's just so[br]many people involved, especially this year

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
When I last checked the stats I think we[br]had 383 people who had so far checked in

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
slightly less than for DebConf 7, but I'm[br]certain... [laughter]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I'm certain over the next few days that'll[br]go up and definitely surpass us.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I just want to remind everyone what the[br]size of the project we are.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's such a huge effort, one of the[br]biggest open source and free software

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
projects in the world.

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Combining around 1000 developers, a few[br]thousand maintainers and contributors as

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
well, and also our users.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's really a huge effort that we manage[br]to still be here after 22 years and still

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
be going strong.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Hopefully a DebConf in future will look[br]a little bit like that

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think the orga team might be slightly[br]more stressed if we end up with numbers

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but what a fantastic thing.

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Also over the last few years we've had 42[br]new project members have joined us.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This is over the last year, we've had all[br]these people.

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Huge welcome to everyone there. [Applause]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Especially one or two on there which I[br]decided to get back into doing application

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
management, especially for our non-[br]uploading developers as well, which has

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
been a huge boost to really grow where[br]we're going.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Also welcome back. I've noticed a few[br]people this year who I haven't seen in a

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
few years, so stand up if you've been away[br]for a few years and you're returning

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I know there's certainly some people,[br]excellent,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Tolimar? [laughter] There he is![br][Applause]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Kris Rose? Is he here? [points] Excellent.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Was active before I even joined Debian,[br]and essentially has come back again, so

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
it's great to see everyone back and thanks[br]very much for remembering us.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There's been a few new people as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Very, very new people who I haven't kinda[br]seen around before in previous DebConfs

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Where did all these children come from?[br]I think there must have been something...

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
[laughter]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think the Switzerland DebConf, there[br]might have been something in the water,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
because it's suddenly been a huge... it's[br]absolutely fantastic to see not only

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
our usual developers around, but their[br]families as well, and new people being

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
introduced to Debian and to technology.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The TecKids workshops I think are[br]absolutely fantastic initiative I think

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that really helps broaden Debian and what[br]we do.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So, when I first became DPL, I always knew[br]Debian was a big thing in free software,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
in the communities and things we do.

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I went along to my running club

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and we went for a run,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
went to the pub afterwards as you do in[br]the UK,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
you can't have sport without excessive[br]alcohol consumption afterwards so it seems

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and about 7 or 8 people all came up to me

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and said "Hey, congratulations on being[br]DPL, I'm going to buy you a pint!", which

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
[laughter]

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which is great

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So if anyone wants to run for DPL you get[br]free beer, this is a good thing.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But it did really impress on me that

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Debian's a big deal, it's a really huge[br]deal.

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If you have a look at some of the latest[br]server stats for web servers,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Debian's number one.

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It's about 32% of Linux distributions, and[br]and if you combine Ubuntu as well, and

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
all our derivatives, we're about 62% of[br]all linux servers out there

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Basically Debian really does run the world

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Not only that, but the amount of embedded[br]devices that Debian's involved with

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
from, as mentioned before, the HP talk,[br]running huge teleco systems

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
to assistive devices. I know Andy's around[br]somewhere.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
That product is essentially being based on[br]Debian and it's a speak and spell type

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
device.

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It's for people who can't talk.

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You have a little keyboard, you type in[br]what you want to say, it has predictive

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technology in there, and then it gives[br]people a voice.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Debian is literally being used to give[br]people voices who can't speak.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This is the sort of impact that Debian[br]have, and free software can have

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
on the world.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
A few things happened, certainly over the[br]last year.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Apparently we released.

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I was only DPL for about a week, but I'm[br]going to take credit for this

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
like any good politician, anyway.[br][laughter]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I've already had a stable release.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This has hugely welcomed.

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I don't know if anyone followed the DevOps[br]Reactions tumblr page, but they were

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
following along and huge cheers from[br]everyone when Debian releases.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It is a big deal.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Strangely I also saw a press release that[br]that said they're

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
having a party to celebrate the release[br]of Debian 8 at Linux Fest North West,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But this press release was from Microsoft[br][laughter]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I thought it might be a spoof at first,[br]but I diligently checked the certificates

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and domains and made sure it went back.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think people, certainly large[br]organisations are realising now that this

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
open source, free software thing isn't[br]going away

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This isn't something that they can just[br]ignore, or they can fight against.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This is something that they have to[br]embrace

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Certainly for someone like Microsoft to[br]throw away a load of cake and do a press

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
release because Debian's released is[br]something I never thought I'd see when I

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
first joined the Debian Project.

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We've had some new good things which have[br]started recently as well

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Fantastic areas if anyone knows what this[br]might be for a current initiative that's

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
going on?

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[Picture of four similar potted plants]

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I was trying to do reproducible builds.

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They all sort of look the same, so near[br]enough [laughter]

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It's the nearest I could find on Flickr to[br]something being reproducible.

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These are all CC by the way.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So this is perhaps a bit of a better slide[br]to explain just how impressive it is

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
where we've got.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I don't know if everyone here's aware of[br]reproducible builds and what this is

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
trying to do, and the importance of it.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
When you get a source package

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and you produce a binary from that

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
there hasn't traditionally been a way of[br]knowing that what you've produced here

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
comes from this source package and it[br]hasn't been tampered with.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This is incredibly important for the trust[br]that people have in Debian

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and how we produce things

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So if we're able to say "Look, this thing[br]here has definitely come from here,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
look we've rebuilt it again, you can check[br]for yourself, it comes from here.",

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
then people can trust Debian as this[br]platform for where we run everyone's

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computers.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I'm quite impressed with the remarkable[br]progress we've seen here.

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From zero to a huge share of things being[br]reproducable and that work I'm sure will

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
continue, especially thanks to the Linux[br]Foundation's grants as well in supporting

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
this progress.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I did a "ask me anything" recently and it[br]was one of the things that came up as

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
being a hugely popular thing that Debian[br]is doing and that we're driving forward.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Not just for Debian itself but for all[br]distributions and making sure we're

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
able to do that.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Interestingly I was also asked what I'm[br]most jealous of other distributions and

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think I said the Arch wiki because it is[br]pretty good. [laughter]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Often when I'm on #debian and answering[br]questions then it comes up with the best

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
answers a lot of the time.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But, hey, I'm rubbish at writing[br]documentation so...

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Another effort we've come up with is ddebs

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Ability to automatically have debug[br]symbols

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Something which a few other distributions[br]have had for a while and it's really,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
really good to see that this sort of[br]effort is happening as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
If Niels is around.... well done![br][applause]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Not the only one but.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So, what's next?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
What's the next things that Debian can do?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Where can we go from here and what sort of[br]ideas can we have?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There's a whole range of things we can do

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but I'm just going to pick up two or three

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
that we want to kinda concentrate on and[br]see where we're going.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
First, PPAs. [picture of a parcel]

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It's near enough a package, that'll do me.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I've got a BoF scheduled on Friday, to try[br]and look at what we're doing with this and

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
trying to finish it off.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It was in my platform as something I want[br]push and it's something I believe will

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
really help the development of Debian.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Now, it's slightly different from Ubuntu[br]PPAs as they're well known.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's not going to be somewhere that you[br]can just dump random software and people

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
install various quality packages.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
This is going to be a very useful tool to[br]aid Debian development itself.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
As far as I remember, most of the work is[br]actually done now.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Huge thanks to the FTP Masters and DSA[br]etc for this.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So the actual code is there in DAK.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
The only missing bits is the control[br]functions,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
how you create new PPAs and the wannabuild[br]system and we build stuff and

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
touch releases.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So it is going to, hopefully, come any[br]minute now

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and something that we will hopefully be[br]able to use and will ease the,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
sometimes the pain of when we freeze.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Sometimes the ability to easily create[br]backports

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
or even to ease library transitions.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
If you can create a PPA where you stage[br]your library, check everything works and

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
you can fix all your breakages then that[br]should help unstable and testing as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
One on outreach I guess is near enough.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's kinda interesting, I've mentioned[br]that Debian is in a huge position to touch

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
many people's lives and it was slightly[br]worrying that compared to the amount of

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Jessie release parties we had all over the[br]world,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I video called into one in India for[br]example and it was globally popular.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
But all of our sprints have been in[br]Europe.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So we haven't had some in North America.

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We haven't had any in South America.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And there's huge areas here we can really[br]try and push and bring free software

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and really help push Debian to be the go[br]to place in various countries rather

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
thank keeping it a Europe or sometimes[br]even North American market.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And Debian's in a great place because we[br]are a community distribution.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We try and aim to be the universal[br]operating system.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Someone that anyone can come along, join,[br]help out in whatever way they want to,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
be it packaging, or doing wonderful press[br]work for example.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
[pointed look to the side] Not mentioning[br]that press work at all.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
She's not even looking at me.[br][Francesca] Hey!

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
[Laughter]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
[Neil] She's going to volunteer to do more[br]press work in future again.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So it's an area people can get involved in[br]really easily and because we're

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
distributed, because we work online, it is[br]natural that people can come and join us

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and we should encourage that, and we[br]should try and reach out and try and reach

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
more people.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Third area, the final one here is around[br]accessibility.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's kind of a sad fact that free software[br]is about 10 years behind proprietary and

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
commercial offerings.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There's a reason that iPhones are hugely[br]popular with people who need accessibility

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
options - they are just fantastic compared[br]with what you can get normally.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I don't believe that it is right that[br]people should have to use proprietary

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
software, which they pay for, to access[br]computing, and to access the web, and to

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
be able to explore what we all have.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We should be able to put in effort, so[br]there's certainly an area which we can

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
really make a difference to people and try[br]and drive forward.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
To bring computing to everyone, rather[br]than those who are fortunate enough to be

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
able to see a screen well, or be rich[br]enough to be able to pay for a license or

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
buy a computer or system from a[br]proprietary company.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There is no reason why we shouldn't be[br]able to do this.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
We are able to speak and work directly[br]with people who require accessibility

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
features, and let those people design it[br]in a way that is much easier than any

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
proprietary company.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
So it's an area I think we can try and[br]try and sort of push quite a bit.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Finally, a bit of a huge thank you from me[br]really.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It was about... So I've been involved with[br]Debian since about 2001 or so, and doing

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
loads of different roles.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Originally doing the web apps policy,[br]which never really got beyond draft

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
because web apps are terrible, terrible[br]things that don't really work with

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
distributions that well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Then with Joey Hess, doing testing[br]security team and setting up that,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
eventually that led in to many, many years[br]of release management. [shakes head]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
[heckling]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And then many years of being release[br]manager as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And then after that Tolimar found me at[br]DebConf in Banja Luka and found out I

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
could write a press release and roped me[br]in to doing bits there

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but after that I was sort of feeling a[br]bit, I don't know, burned out.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I didn't really know what else to do with[br]the project.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I think this happens to everyone.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's a huge reminder each time when I come[br]to DebConf and I meet people and how

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
fortunate I am, and we all are to be[br]involved with such a fantastic project,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
something that really is changing people's[br]lives,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
something that is breaking the[br]traditional proprietary market

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and enabling people to have greater access[br]to computing

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and it's really fortunate that I'm in a[br]position to help lead this project

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and to do everything for you.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Finally, I think I mentioned, I think Phil[br]Hands - is he around?

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
He probably has a small child trying to[br]throw-up on him for anyone who saw the

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
morning announcements today.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
He did kind of joke about the next DPL[br]hustings,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
he can just write an auto-responder bot to[br]any questions which is

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"That sounds interesting, I look forward[br]to seeing the results"

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[laughter]

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Generally I think that we should be able[br]to try things,

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so if anyone has any ideas, stuff they[br]want to do, Debian has the money,

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let's go try some stuff.

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If we want a sprint to work on[br]accessibility in say, Hong Hong

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as there's a huge issue there, or to[br]improve our localisation, then let's

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do that.

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We have the money to do it.

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We have, hopefully, the interest around,[br]so let's go try things.

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As promised, I thought I'd keep things[br]nice and short.

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As everyone seemed to be getting hungry.

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I was going to leave a bit for Q&A, if[br]anyone had any questions,

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or wanted to put me on the spot about[br]anything or random thoughts anyone had,

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then I'd certainly be very happy to answer[br]any of those.

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Someone has to be first.

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Otherwise my timing's really, really out.

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Oh good. [clappiung]

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Lucky me.

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Hello! What's your name and where are you[br]from? [laughter]

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[Steve] Oh, you want me to say something?[br][Neil] Yeah, go on.

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[Steve] What is your single highest[br]priority thing that you think we should

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all be working on?

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[Neil] Getting the next stable release[br]out, to be honest.

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This is what we do, as a distribution.

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We release things.

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We make software.

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We give it to our users, Debian is famed[br]for its stability.

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We backport our security fixes.

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People can rely on Debian, they can trust[br]us to produce a rock solid distribution.

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Something that people can, in some cases,[br]yes, derive works from.

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If they don't like what we're doing they[br]can tweak it.

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There was the huge thing that came up when[br]Devuan came up saying that

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"Oh, we're going to fork Debian and it's[br]going to be terrible"

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It's like fine! There's over 120 forks of[br]Debian out there already, that's fine!

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Please, come and do this, we're happy with[br]that.

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Being able to produce this reliable,[br]stable operating system that we only

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release when we're ready, which happens to[br]apparently be about every two years now

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is something that everyone relies on us[br]being able to do,

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and they can trust us to produce that for[br]them.

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Essentially putting out releases is one of[br]the main reasons we're here.

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To get that software into the hands of[br]users.

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There's loads of other stuff of course[br]which we can do to try and improve and

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push forward free software in general, but[br]we are essentially a distribution.

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Our aim is to collect software, and then[br]distribute it,

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and one of the best ways to do that is[br]releases.

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[Steve] Good answer.[br][Neil] Good!

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[Joshua] What's your favourite thing about[br]Debian?

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[laughter]

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[Unknown] You're not allowed to say[br]releases.

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[Neil] I'm apparently not allowed to say[br]the kilt as well

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[Bdale] You also already said free beer so

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[Neil] And free beer, yeah.

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It has to be the people that I'm involved[br]with.

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The project has enabled me to meet so[br]many awesome people and basically have

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the career I've had so far as well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
There has always been a thing about being[br]involved visibly with and open source

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
project that helps you professionally as[br]well.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I got my first job because I was involved[br]with free software.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
I then got my next job because I was a[br]Debian developer and could put together

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Linux systems easily, and knew how to[br]munge these various crazy different

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projects which are written in a hundred[br]different libraries,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
using different compatibilities together[br]to make something whole.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
Then my current job I got because[br]essentially I was involved in doing

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
management-y type functions in Debian.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
As I say to people when they ask

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
"Where's the money in free software? How[br]can I create a career with it?"

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
It's basically fairly easy. Get stuck in.

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Go and do something.

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Find something interesting that interests[br]you,

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and that you're able to be the world[br]expert at, and you can do that.

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On an entirely personal view, some of my[br]closest friends are the Debian people I've

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worked with for many many years and I[br]certainly wouldn't have moved to my

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current city, or know half the people I do[br]if it wasn't for that.

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The Debian family is a large one, that[br]occasionally gets together at DebConf

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
and Christmas, and sometimes has huge blow[br]up arguments,

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
possibly over the turkey or the init[br]system, something like that [laughter]

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but we do all come together.

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We have huge contentious decisions

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
but we're still here.

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We've had huge arguments with everyone[br]trying to stab each other, but at the end

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of the day we're still here, we're still[br]the Debian project.

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
And sort of like that it's something we[br]love to be associated with

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and it's everyone around that really makes[br]that.

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[Joshua] Thank you[br][Applause]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
[Neil] Anyone else? No?

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Oh oh.

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I'll just stop you there - backups are[br]really really important, [laughter]

9:59:59.000,9:59:59.000
so we should definitely concentrate on[br]backups.

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[Lars] So what's the biggest risk to[br]Debian you see in the 5-10 year span?

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