Women and autism: towards a better understanding | Sarai Pahla | TEDxMünster
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0:19 - 0:20Hi.
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0:21 - 0:24So I'm going to start my talk today
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0:24 - 0:30by telling all of you that my biggest fear
is that I will never be loved for who I am -
0:30 - 0:32in a romantic relationship.
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0:33 - 0:35Now, some of you are already going,
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0:36 - 0:37"Obviously.
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0:37 - 0:39You are morbidly obese."
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0:39 - 0:42Some of you can see
that I'm not wearing makeup. -
0:43 - 0:48Some of you can see that I have
a bit of a strange sense of style. -
0:48 - 0:53Anyone who knows anything
about African hair is wondering, -
0:53 - 0:56"Why haven't you covered it up
with a weave or with braids -
0:56 - 0:58or straightened it?" -
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0:58 - 1:02with the same ingredient
that we use to unblock the shower drain. -
1:03 - 1:08And I'm here to tell you
that this is not a superficial problem. -
1:08 - 1:10So I went and searched on Google,
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1:10 - 1:13and I found out
that when people look at me, -
1:14 - 1:18they expect me to be good
at relationships because I'm a woman. -
1:19 - 1:20Even worse,
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1:20 - 1:25they think I'm supposed to be "nurturing"
and have nesting instincts. -
1:26 - 1:32And I'm here to tell you
I am terrible at relationships -
1:32 - 1:33and managing relationships.
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1:33 - 1:39I find interacting with people
in real life inefficient and exhausting. -
1:41 - 1:44I'm also totally undomesticated:
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1:44 - 1:50it takes me a month to do the same chores
that other people get done in a week. -
1:51 - 1:53And when I was in medical school,
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1:53 - 1:56I learned that we each
only get one biological mother, -
1:56 - 2:00and when she stops cooking,
cleaning, doing your laundry, -
2:00 - 2:02and nagging you to look after yourself,
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2:02 - 2:03that's it.
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2:03 - 2:06It doesn't become my job
because I'm a woman. -
2:06 - 2:10And anyway, I don't like
doing that stuff for myself. -
2:10 - 2:13So why should I do it for someone else
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2:13 - 2:15when I could be playing
the latest Call of Duty? -
2:15 - 2:17(Laughter)
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2:20 - 2:23I also find the idea of living
with someone a bit ridiculous, -
2:23 - 2:27because, I mean, if Superman
had a fortress of solitude, -
2:27 - 2:30surely everyone can understand
that I need one, -
2:30 - 2:31right?
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2:33 - 2:37I have what used to be called
Asperger's syndrome, -
2:37 - 2:41which is just a high-functioning
form of autism. -
2:41 - 2:46And you can read up
some of the specifics after this talk, -
2:46 - 2:47but I think the main point
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2:47 - 2:53is that I'm great at learning information
that's presented in a logical way, -
2:53 - 2:55like human physiology,
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2:55 - 2:59but I'm terrible at creating systems
in the real world, -
2:59 - 3:02like putting objects correctly
into a cupboard, -
3:02 - 3:04because there's no formula for that
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3:04 - 3:07and I need a formula.
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3:07 - 3:08Right?
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3:09 - 3:11For me, it wouldn't be so bad,
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3:11 - 3:13but as a woman with autism,
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3:14 - 3:16the problem that I find
with the rest of the world -
3:16 - 3:21is when people talk about people
who are nerdy, intelligent, -
3:21 - 3:23socially awkward,
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3:23 - 3:24socially isolated,
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3:24 - 3:26and who are obsessed with computer games,
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3:27 - 3:29but who can't look after themselves,
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3:29 - 3:32they're always talking about men.
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3:34 - 3:38So even if I'm honest about it,
people just don't get it. -
3:39 - 3:43So I thought the best way to talk
about being a woman with autism -
3:43 - 3:46is to talk about dating, right?
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3:46 - 3:49Let's go back to how I started, right?
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3:49 - 3:53Let's go back to my biggest fear
and where it came from. -
3:53 - 3:55So I was about 12
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3:55 - 4:00when I started noticing that people formed
these primitive sort of peer bonds. -
4:01 - 4:04Somehow, due to some
magic series of events, -
4:04 - 4:07a boy and a girl would come into school
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4:07 - 4:10and announce that they were now
"boyfriend" and "girlfriend." -
4:11 - 4:14They would, you know, exchange letters,
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4:14 - 4:17they would be seen together
between classes, -
4:17 - 4:21and it seemed like a great arrangement
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4:21 - 4:25because when they were
in this, you know, "relationship," -
4:25 - 4:27then they were happy,
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4:27 - 4:31but when they went through
what was called a breakup, -
4:31 - 4:35then they were sad
and even cruel to each other. -
4:35 - 4:37So I thought, "Oh, yeah.
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4:37 - 4:40I totally want some of this
boyfriend and girlfriend action." -
4:40 - 4:41Right?
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4:41 - 4:45So I sat down and I catalogued
all the boys in my class, -
4:45 - 4:50and I looked for the ones who looked
like the lead singer of Extreme - -
4:50 - 4:52they're the band who sang
"More Than Words," -
4:52 - 4:53if anyone knows them -
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4:53 - 4:56because this seemed
like a good criteria at the time. -
4:57 - 5:01So I selected a test subject
who met the eligibility criteria -
5:01 - 5:06and then observed them
in formal and informal settings, -
5:06 - 5:09and I would jot down my observations.
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5:09 - 5:13And you know, after a few weeks,
I'd review them, -
5:13 - 5:15write them up in the form of a report
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5:16 - 5:19and then deliver that to the test subject
with the obvious conclusion -
5:19 - 5:23that based on my excellent observations,
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5:23 - 5:27we would make a great
"boyfriend and girlfriend partnership." -
5:27 - 5:29(Laughter)
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5:29 - 5:30Right?
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5:30 - 5:32(Applause)
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5:35 - 5:37And for the life of me,
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5:37 - 5:43I could not understand why
this rational approach always failed. -
5:43 - 5:44(Laughter)
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5:44 - 5:46Okay, okay, to be fair,
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5:46 - 5:47to be fair,
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5:47 - 5:49there were other issues.
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5:50 - 5:53I was a black and native
English-speaking girl -
5:53 - 5:55growing up in South Africa
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5:55 - 5:57in the mid to late 1990s.
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5:58 - 6:02So, the South African black people
called me horrible names, -
6:02 - 6:03like "coconut" -
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6:03 - 6:07which means you're brown on the outside
and white on the inside - -
6:07 - 6:08or they said I was "too masculine,"
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6:08 - 6:12or they said I was
"too intelligent," right? -
6:12 - 6:14But then, on the other hand,
you had white people -
6:14 - 6:19who thought that dating me was "immoral"
or "disgusting" or "embarrassing." -
6:20 - 6:23And then, you had all these people
in between who were like, -
6:24 - 6:27"Just leave us out of it, please;
we don't want to be involved." -
6:28 - 6:30And even after coming to Germany,
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6:30 - 6:35where I've had the benefit of meeting
very educated and very liberal people, -
6:36 - 6:37things have gotten better,
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6:37 - 6:41but the autism-related
difficulties are still there. -
6:43 - 6:45So anyway, for about 20 years,
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6:45 - 6:47I tried many different things
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6:47 - 6:51to try and achieve this
"boyfriend and girlfriend status." -
6:52 - 6:55One of the most ambitious things I did
was learning how to code, -
6:55 - 6:59because I really believed
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6:59 - 7:02that the guy that I liked
was going to walk into the computer labs -
7:02 - 7:05and he was going to go, "Damn!"
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7:05 - 7:07(Laughter)
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7:07 - 7:11"That is some sexy syntax
you've got going there!" -
7:11 - 7:12(Laughter)
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7:12 - 7:14(Applause)
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7:19 - 7:22Obviously, he was going to sweep me
into his arms and say, -
7:22 - 7:25"I've never met anyone like you!"
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7:25 - 7:28I would feel faint, the light
would shine down from heaven, -
7:28 - 7:30angels would start singing,
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7:31 - 7:35and of course, we would live
happily ever after. -
7:36 - 7:37Right?
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7:37 - 7:40I did get more practical as time went on.
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7:41 - 7:42(Laughter)
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7:43 - 7:48Another thing I did was to study,
you know, dating self-help books -
7:48 - 7:49for like four years
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7:49 - 7:51because now, dating was a degree,
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7:51 - 7:54and I was trying to, you know,
pass the course. -
7:56 - 7:58And this was actually useful
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7:58 - 8:03because I learnt
that as a woman with autism, -
8:03 - 8:06eye contact is unbearable for me,
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8:06 - 8:08but this eye-contact thing
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8:08 - 8:11is where this whole boyfriend
and girlfriend thing starts -
8:11 - 8:12in the first place.
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8:14 - 8:19Unfortunately, failing over and over again
was really difficult for me. -
8:19 - 8:21So in the end, I would end up going,
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8:21 - 8:23(Crying) "Oh, he doesn't like me!
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8:26 - 8:28(Crying) Ah, it's not fair!"
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8:28 - 8:31And I would eat to relieve my frustration.
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8:31 - 8:32I mean, at one stage,
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8:32 - 8:37my comfort food was an entire apple pie,
with, you know, cream. -
8:44 - 8:49And now that I have tried
to live with the diagnosis openly, -
8:49 - 8:51I understand the problem.
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8:52 - 8:57If I want to develop
emotional intimacy with people -
8:57 - 8:59and have them know me for who I am,
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8:59 - 9:01I have to be honest,
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9:01 - 9:04and this means saying things like,
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9:04 - 9:09"Ah, actually, I find physical
stimulation unpleasant," -
9:09 - 9:14or, say, "I can't go to a restaurant
because the way cutlery goes - -
9:16 - 9:19makes me feel like
my ear drums are bleeding." -
9:20 - 9:22And saying things like this to people -
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9:23 - 9:25you know, being honest about it
makes people think, -
9:25 - 9:27"Oh, well, I mean,
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9:27 - 9:30clearly you don't want
a serious relationship, -
9:31 - 9:34which is sad because
as a woman with autism, -
9:34 - 9:38instead of learning
that dating is fun, exciting, -
9:38 - 9:40leads to long-term partnership,
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9:40 - 9:44I learnt that dating leads to rejection,
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9:44 - 9:46coercion,
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9:46 - 9:47arguments,
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9:47 - 9:49abuse,
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9:49 - 9:50sadness,
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9:51 - 9:52and at the end of the day,
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9:52 - 9:56everyone else made me feel
like I was unworthy of love, -
9:56 - 9:58just because I was "too different."
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9:59 - 10:00And on the other hand,
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10:00 - 10:03I couldn't find a rational argument
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10:03 - 10:09to explain away this feeling of wanting
to connect intimately with people -
10:09 - 10:15because, I mean, wanting love
is something common to all of us, -
10:15 - 10:17whether you have autism or not.
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10:19 - 10:21So I'm really very glad
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10:21 - 10:25that I've had this opportunity
to say this talk to all of you today -
10:25 - 10:28because it's been so therapeutic.
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10:28 - 10:29(Laughter)
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10:31 - 10:35Even medical professionals
and psychologists will cut me off -
10:35 - 10:38when I try and talk
about this stuff and say, -
10:38 - 10:41"Ah, don't worry, don't worry.
You'll figure it out." -
10:41 - 10:44And, I mean, I'm 35 now.
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10:44 - 10:47When, exactly? You know?
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10:47 - 10:51So let's talk about some ways
that people can meet me in the middle, -
10:52 - 10:56because I know that I'm not the only woman
who struggles with this. -
10:56 - 10:59But the problem is other women
don't want to talk about it -
10:59 - 11:03because it's embarrassing
to suck so badly at something -
11:03 - 11:07that everybody else around you
thinks is completely natural. -
11:07 - 11:08You know?
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11:09 - 11:11I mean, the first thing I have to say
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11:11 - 11:16is if you want to date
someone with autism, -
11:16 - 11:19please go and read up about it first.
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11:19 - 11:22It saves so much hassle.
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11:22 - 11:25You'll react with
understanding and sympathy -
11:25 - 11:28instead of with rejection and ridicule.
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11:29 - 11:30Secondly,
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11:30 - 11:34I wish I could meet someone
who'd have a no-talking date with me. -
11:34 - 11:35So that means
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11:36 - 11:39we sit and communicate
using handheld devices, -
11:39 - 11:41but we're sitting
right next to each other, -
11:41 - 11:43so we still have the real-life connection.
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11:44 - 11:46And if you're wondering why,
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11:46 - 11:48if you're wondering why,
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11:48 - 11:50this is because for someone with autism,
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11:50 - 11:56dealing with conversation is one of the
most overwhelming things in the world. -
11:56 - 11:58Because when I'm having a conversation,
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11:58 - 12:02I'm watching your body language,
which I don't really understand anyway. -
12:02 - 12:05I mean, facial expressions -
it's all confusing. -
12:05 - 12:07I'm trying to listen
to what you're saying, -
12:07 - 12:11but then I'm also trying to block out
all the sounds and the noise and cutlery - -
12:11 - 12:12that's going on.
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12:12 - 12:15I'm trying to read your lips
because I'm also trying to make sure -
12:15 - 12:18that if I miss anything that I can't hear,
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12:18 - 12:20I've got to pick it up from your lips.
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12:21 - 12:23And then I've also got
to worry about myself. -
12:23 - 12:26I have to make sure that my own face
is in the right configuration to say, -
12:26 - 12:28"Oh, I'm having fun."
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12:28 - 12:30(Laughter)
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12:30 - 12:32I have to edit what I'm saying
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12:32 - 12:36so that I make sure that I don't
offend you, you know, accidentally. -
12:36 - 12:41I have to monitor my own body language
and deal with my own discomfort -
12:41 - 12:47because even sensory stimulation,
like having smart clothes on, -
12:47 - 12:49is unbearable for me;
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12:49 - 12:50it's horrible.
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12:50 - 12:54So I would, actually, truly,
rather be in my room, -
12:55 - 12:57you know, barefoot,
in front of my computer, -
12:57 - 13:01but I make the effort to go out
and interact with people in person. -
13:01 - 13:05So it would be nice
if people could meet me halfway. -
13:06 - 13:10I think the next thing to say
is, please, verbalize. -
13:12 - 13:16I know you guys all understand
what a wink or a head tilt means, -
13:16 - 13:17but we barely even notice,
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13:17 - 13:20if we even understand what you're doing.
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13:22 - 13:24Ideally, you should say things like,
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13:24 - 13:26"I'm having a really good time with you,
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13:26 - 13:28and I'd like to put my arm
around you now," -
13:28 - 13:31so that we can logically
process the information -
13:31 - 13:34and prepare for the stimulation
that's going to come, -
13:34 - 13:38instead of going, "Ew!
Touching! Gross, gross!" -
13:42 - 13:47And I think the last point for me
is that you have to remember -
13:47 - 13:51that someone who's a woman with autism
has probably been traumatized -
13:51 - 13:52by the dating process.
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13:53 - 13:54For me,
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13:54 - 13:57I didn't even know what being hit on was
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13:57 - 14:00until I was a my mid-twenties.
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14:00 - 14:03So if someone came up to me
in the supermarket -
14:03 - 14:06or, you know, in a public place
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14:06 - 14:08and wouldn't leave me alone,
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14:08 - 14:10I would, you know, scream and get upset
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14:10 - 14:13because I thought they were trying
to kidnap me or something. -
14:13 - 14:14You know?
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14:14 - 14:16And on the other hand,
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14:16 - 14:20now that I'm older
and I have more experience, -
14:20 - 14:22I'm afraid whenever someone
shows interest in me -
14:22 - 14:26because they expect me to have
a huge amount of dating experience -
14:26 - 14:28that I just don't have.
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14:28 - 14:31So a good example was, recently,
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14:31 - 14:36I was dating someone who brought up
the topic of moving in together -
14:37 - 14:39just a few weeks into dating, you know.
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14:39 - 14:42Most other women
would be like, "Yes! Score!" -
14:42 - 14:43You know?
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14:43 - 14:46And instead, I was like, (Crying) "Oh ...
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14:47 - 14:50Ah, he doesn't like me!"
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14:50 - 14:51You know?
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14:51 - 14:53And it's something
that you have to accept, -
14:53 - 14:57that these relationship milestones
are just going to take longer, -
14:57 - 15:00and it's something
that everyone else has to deal with. -
15:01 - 15:05So after telling you all of this stuff
about women with autism, -
15:06 - 15:07why would you want to date them anyway?
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15:07 - 15:11We sound kind of complicated
and difficult, right? -
15:11 - 15:13Well, one good thing I can tell you
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15:13 - 15:17is that I definitely regard the people
that I'm in love with -
15:17 - 15:21with the sense of like child-like
admiration and wonder. -
15:21 - 15:24Instead of checking off, you know,
points on a list, like, -
15:24 - 15:26"Is he going to be a good breadwinner?"
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15:26 - 15:27you know.
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15:27 - 15:31I try and use my abilities
and my weirdness -
15:31 - 15:33to make life better for the other person
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15:33 - 15:38because I want to make up
for not being a typical girlfriend. -
15:39 - 15:42I'm loyal, I'm passionate,
and I'm intense. -
15:42 - 15:44I'm a woman with autism,
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15:44 - 15:47and I reward understanding,
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15:47 - 15:49direct communication,
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15:49 - 15:51and tolerance
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15:51 - 15:53with unconditional love.
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15:53 - 15:54Thank you.
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15:54 - 15:56(Applause)
- Title:
- Women and autism: towards a better understanding | Sarai Pahla | TEDxMünster
- Description:
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While it is true that autism is largely a male disorder, women suffer from it too. But their unique stories often go untold. Sarai Pahla is a young woman from Zimbabwe who grew up in South Africa and has been living in Germany for a couple of years. She suffers from Asperger's syndrome, a high-functioning form of autism. In her talk, she describes the difficulties she has had to master in the course of her life, and she delivers a manual for those who dare to engage in a relationship with autistic women.
When people take the time to understand what autism really means, both sides benefit from it. At TEDxMünster, Sarai Pahla tells of her experiences with autism. She grew up in South Africa, but did not receive her diagnoses until much later. Pahla was lucky however because her parents gave her much freedom despite her idiosyncrasies. Now she lives in Düsseldorf and works as a freelance medical translator.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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- English
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