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Jonathan Safran Foer: Novels can learn from poetry

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    ใƒซใ‚คใ‚ธใ‚ขใƒŠใ€€ใƒใƒฃใƒณใƒใƒซ
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    ใ‚ธใƒงใƒŠใ‚ตใƒณใƒปใ‚ตใƒ•ใƒฉใƒณใƒปใƒ•ใ‚ฉใ‚ข
    ๅฐ่ชฌใฏ่ฉฉใซๅญฆใน
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    ใ‚ˆใใ€Œๆ–‡ๅญฆใฏๆญปใ‚“ใ ใ€
    ใจ่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใพใ™
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    ๆœ€ๅˆใฎๆ–‡ๅญฆไฝœๅ“ใŒ
    ไฝœใ‚‰ใ‚Œใฆใ™ใ
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    ใใ†่จ€ใ†ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
    ใชใฃใŸใฎใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
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    ๆœ€่ฟ‘ใ€€
    ไธ€ๅฑคใใ†่จ€ใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใพใ™
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    ใใ‚Œใ‚’ๅพŒๆŠผใ—ใ™ใ‚‹ใฎใฏ
    ๆœฌใ‚’่ชญใ‚€ไบบใŒๅฐ‘ใชใใชใฃใŸไบ‹
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    ๆทฑใพใ‚Šใคใคใ‚ใ‚‹
    ๆ–‡ๅญฆใธใฎ็„ก้–ขๅฟƒ
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    ๆ‡ธๅฟตใ‚„ไธไฟกใ•ใˆใ‚ใ‚‹
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    ไฝ•ใงใ‚‚
    ็”ป้ขใง่ฆ‹ใ‚ˆใ†ใจใ™ใ‚‹้ขจๆฝฎใ‚‚
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    ็”ป้ขๅ‘ใใจใฏ่จ€ใˆใชใ„
    ๆœฌใซใจใฃใฆใฏ
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    ่‰ฏใใชใ„ไบ‹ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†
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    ็”ป้ขไธŠใงๆœฌใ‚’
    ่ชญใ‚€ไบ‹ใฏใงใใพใ™
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    ใงใ‚‚ Eใƒกใƒผใƒซใ‚„
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    ใ‚ซใƒฌใƒณใƒ€ใƒผ ใ‚„ใƒกใƒƒใ‚ปใƒผใ‚ธ
    ็ฝฎใ„ใฆใ‚ใ‚‹็”ป้ขใงใฏ็„ก็†
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    ใใ†ใ„ใ†ใƒกใƒ‡ใ‚ฃใ‚ขใซใฏ
    ๆ•ตใ‚ใชใ„
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    ไบบใฏใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚‚
    ๆœฌใ‚’่ชญใ‚€ใ ใ‚ใ†ใ‹๏ผŸ
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    ๆ€ใ†ใซ ๆ–‡ๅญฆใซใ—ใ‹ใงใใชใ„
    ไผใˆใ‚‰ใ‚Œใชใ„ไบ‹ใฏ
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    ใพใ ๆฎ‹ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹
    ใ“ใ‚Œใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚‚ใšใฃใจใ‚ใ‚Š็ถšใ‘ใ‚‹
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    ๆ–‡ๅญฆใŒๅฟ…ใšใ—ใ‚‚
    ๆ˜ ็”ปใ‚„ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚น ้Ÿณๆฅฝใ‚ˆใ‚Š
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    ๅ„ชใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใจใฏๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“
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    ๅฎŸ้š› ๅ€‹ไบบ็š„ใซใฏใ‚ˆใ
    ๆ–‡ๅญฆใ‚ˆใ‚Š ๆ˜ ็”ปใ‚„ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚นใซ
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    ๆƒนใ‹ใ‚Œใพใ™
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    ใงใ‚‚ไบบ็”ŸใซใŠใ„ใฆ
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    ๆ–‡ๅญฆใŒ ใใ‚Œใ‚‚ๆ–‡ๅญฆใ ใ‘ใŒ
    ๅฟ…่ฆใชๆ™‚ใŒใ‚ใ‚‹
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    ไพ‹ใˆใฐ ไธ€้€ฑ้–“ๅ‰
    ๆ—งๅ‹ใฎๆฏ่ฆชใŒโ€•
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    ไบกใใชใ‚Šใพใ—ใŸ
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    ๅƒ•ใฏNYใ‹ใ‚‰DCใธ
    ใใฎๆ—งๅ‹ใ‚’่จชใญใŸ
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    ไฝ•ใ‚’่จ€ใ†ในใใ‹ใ€€ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆฐ—ใพใšใ„
    ็—›ใฟใ•ใˆ่ฆšใˆใ‚‹ๆฒˆ้ป™ใ‚’ ๏ผ
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    ใฉใ†ๅŸ‹ใ‚ใ‚Œใฐใ„ใ„ใฎใ‹๏ผŸ
    ใจใฆใ‚‚ๆ‚ฉใฟใพใ—ใŸ
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    ๅƒ•ใฏ่ฉฉใ‚’ๆŒๅ‚ใ™ใ‚‹ไบ‹ใซใ—ใŸ
    20็ฏ‡ใใ‚‰ใ„ใฎ่ฉฉใงใ™
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    ๅƒ•ใŒ่ฉฉใ‚’ๆœ—่ชญใ—
    ไบŒไบบใงๅ†…ๅฎนใ‚’่ชžใฃใŸ
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    ใใฎๆ™‚ๅƒ•ใ‚‰ใฏโ€•
    ๅ‹ฟ่ซ– ไธปใซๅฝผๅฅณใŒใงใ™ใŒ
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    ใงใ‚‚ไบŒไบบใงไธ€็ท’ใซ
    ็ซ‹ใกๅ‘ใ‹ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™
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    ไบบ็”Ÿๆœ€ๅคงใฎๆ™‚ใงใ‚ใ‚‹ใ€Œๆญปใ€ใ‚’่ฟŽใˆ
    ๅƒ•ใŸใกใŒ้ ผใฃใŸใ‚‚ใฎใ€€ใใ‚Œใฏโ€•
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    ใ€Œ่ฉฉใ€ใ ใฃใŸใฎใงใ™
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    ไบบ็”ŸใซใŠใ‘ใ‚‹ ๆใ‚ใ—ใ
    ็ทŠ่ฟซใ—ใŸ ็”Ÿใจๆญปใซใพใคใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ™‚
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    ่ฉฉใ‚„็Ÿญ็ทจ ใใ‚Œใซ้•ท็ทจๅฐ่ชฌใฏ
    ๅคงใใชๅŠฉใ‘ใซใชใ‚‹
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    ๅƒ•ใฏใใ†ๆ€ใ†ใฎใงใ™
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    ้•ท็ทจใฏไฝ•ๆ™‚้–“ใ‚‚
    ใ‚ใ‚‹ใ„ใฏไฝ•ๆ—ฅใ‚‚ใ‹ใ‘ใฆ
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    ็Ÿญ็ทจใงใ•ใˆ ไธ‰ๅๅˆ†ใฏใ‹ใ‘ใฆ
    ่ชญใพใ‚Œใ‚‹ใ‚‚ใฎใงใ™
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    ๅฝผๅฅณใซใฉใฎ็จ‹ๅบฆ
    ใ‚จใƒใƒซใ‚ฎใƒผใŒใ‚ใ‚‹ใ‹ๅˆ†ใ‹ใ‚‰ใš
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    ็Ÿญใ„็‰ฉใŒใ„ใ„ใจๆ€ใฃใŸ
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    ใใ‚Œใ‚‚่ฉฉใ‚’้ธใ‚“ใ ็†็”ฑใงใ™ใŒ
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    ่ฉฉใŒๆ–‡ๅญฆใฎ
    ๆœ€ใ‚‚ๅ‡็ธฎใ•ใ‚ŒใŸๅฝข ใ‚ใ‚‹ๆ„ๅ‘ณโ€•
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    ๆœ€ใ‚‚็ด”็ฒ‹ใชๅฝขใ ใ‹ใ‚‰
    ใจใ„ใ†็†็”ฑใ‚‚ใ‚ใ‚‹
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    ้•ท็ทจๅฐ่ชฌใŒ่ฉฉใซๅŠฃใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹
    ใจใฏๆ€ใ„ใพใ›ใ‚“
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    ใงใ‚‚ ่ฉฉใ‹ใ‚‰ๅญฆใถใ‚‚ใฎใฏๅคšใ„ใจ
    ๆ€ใ„ใพใ™
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    ่จ€่‘‰ใซไฝ•ใŒใงใใ‚‹ใ‹
    ใ„ใ‹ใซ็އ็›ดใซ
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    ใ„ใ‹ใซ็ฐกๆฝ”ใซใชใ‚Šๅพ—ใ‚‹ใฎใ‹
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    ใ„ใ‹ใซๆ„Ÿๆƒ…ใ‚’ๅ‘ผใณ่ฆšใพใ—
    ๅ‹•ใ‹ใ™ใ‹
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    ๆ™‚ใ€…ๅฐ่ชฌใฏ้–“้•ใ„ใ‚’็Šฏใ—
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    ่‡ชๅˆ†่‡ช่บซใฎ่ชฌๆ˜Žๆ›ธใใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
    ใชใฃใฆใ—ใพใ†
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    ใ€Œใ“ใฎๆœฌใฃใฆใคใพใ‚Š
    ไฝ•ใŒ่จ€ใ„ใŸใ„ใฎ๏ผŸใ€ใจใชใ‚‹ใ‚ใ‘ใงใ™
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    ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚‰ใ™ใ˜ใฏ่จ€ใˆใ‚‹ใ‘ใฉ
    ใใ‚Œใ˜ใ‚ƒ้ง„็›ฎใ ใ€
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    ใ€ŒๅฎŸ้š›ใซ่ชญใพใชใ„ใจใ€
    โ€•ใใ†ใ„ใ†ๆœฌใ‚’
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    ๆ›ธใใฎใŒๅคขใงใ™
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    ใใ‚Œใ“ใใ€€ใ„ใ„ๅฐ่ชฌใงใ™
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    ใ€Œใ‚ใ‚‰ใ™ใ˜ใŒใ™ในใฆใ€
    ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅฐ่ชฌ
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    ใ‚ใ‚‰ใ™ใ˜ใฎๆ‹กๅคง็‰ˆ
    ใฎใ‚ˆใ†ใชๅฐ่ชฌใฏโ€•
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    ๅฎŸใฏใจใฆใ‚‚ใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“ใซ่ฟ‘ใ„
    ใ‚‚ใฎใซใชใฃใฆใ—ใพใ†
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    ่ฉฉใŒใ‚„ใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ไบ‹ใฏ
    ๅฐ่ชฌใซใ‚‚ใพใ ใงใใ‚‹ใฏใšใงใ™
  • 3:43 - 3:49
    ่จ€่‘‰ใซ่กจใ›ใชใ„็จ‹็ฅž่–ใง
    ็ฅž็ง˜็š„ใง ๅฎŒๅ…จใซใฏ็†่งฃใงใใชใ„
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    ใใ‚“ใชๅฐ่ชฌใฏๅฏ่ƒฝใงใ™
    ่ฉฉใ‚ˆใ‚Š้•ทใ„ใ ใ‘ใงใ™
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    ใšใฃใจใ€€ๆ–‡ๅญฆใ‚ˆใ‚Š
    ่ฆ–่ฆš่Šธ่ก“ใซๆƒนใ‹ใ‚Œใฆใใพใ—ใŸ
  • 3:57 - 4:02
    ไฝœๅฎถใซใชใ‚ŠใŸใ‹ใฃใŸ็†็”ฑใ‚’
    ๆ€ใ„ๅ‡บใ›ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใชๆ™‚ใฏใ€€ไปŠใงใ‚‚โ€•
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    ๆœฌใ‚’่ชญใ‚€ใฎใงใฏใชใใ€€ๅฎŸใฏ
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    ็ตต็”ปใ‚„ๅฝซๅˆปใ‚’
    ้‘‘่ณžใ—ใฆใ„ใพใ™
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    ๅƒ•ใซใจใฃใฆ ๅŒบๅˆฅใฏ
    ใ‚ใพใ‚Šใซใ‚‚ๆ˜Ž็™ฝใงใ™
  • 4:14 - 4:22
    ใƒŸใƒฅใƒผใ‚ธใ‚ทใƒฃใƒณใซไฝœๅฎถใ€€ใ‚ขใƒผใƒ†ใ‚ฃใ‚นใƒˆ
    ใƒ€ใƒณใ‚ตใƒผโ€ฆใฟใ‚“ใชใใ‚Œใžใ‚Œ้•ใ†ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†๏ผŸ
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    ๅƒ•ใŸใกใฏๅฝผใ‚‰ใ‚’ๅˆ†้กžใ—
    ้š”้›ขใ—ใฆใใพใ—ใŸ
  • 4:28 - 4:30
    ้‡ใชใ‚‹้ƒจๅˆ†ใŒ
    ใปใผใ€€ใชใ„ใ‚ˆใ†ใซ
  • 4:30 - 4:33
    ใงใ‚‚ๅฎŸ้š›ใซใฏใ€€ๅฝผใ‚‰ใฏใŸใ 
    ใ€ŒใŒใ‚‰ใใŸใ€ใจโ€•
  • 4:33 - 4:36
    ๅ‘ผใฐใ‚Œใ‹ใญใชใ„็‰ฉใ‚’
    ไฝœใ‚ŠใŸใŒใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ ใ‘
  • 4:37 - 4:39
    ใงใ‚‚ใ€ŒใŒใ‚‰ใใŸใ€ใชใ‚“ใฆใชใ„
  • 4:39 - 4:42
    ไปŠ ๆ’ฎๅฝฑใซไฝฟใฃใฆใ„ใ‚‹ใ‚ซใƒกใƒฉใฏ
  • 4:42 - 4:45
    ไฝ•ใ‹ใ‚’่จ˜้Œฒใ™ใ‚‹็‚บ
    ไฝœใ‚‰ใ‚ŒใŸ
  • 4:45 - 4:48
    ใ“ใฎใƒ“ใƒ‡ใ‚ชใ‚’่ฆ‹ใ‚‹ใฎใซ
    ไฝฟใ‚ใ‚Œใฆใ„ใ‚‹
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    ใƒ†ใƒฌใƒ“ใ‚„ใƒ‘ใ‚ฝใ‚ณใƒณใซใ‚‚
    ็‰นๅฎšใฎ็›ฎ็š„ใŒใ‚ใ‚Š
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Title:
Jonathan Safran Foer: Novels can learn from poetry
Description:

Interview with American writer Jonathan Safran Foer, in which he reflects on the power of literature in general and poetry in particular. Foer also argues that art always has a personal point of departure, where the artist confronts the world and rearranges it.

In this interview Jonathan Safran Foer (born 1977) reflects on various media and cultural activities. Personally, he is fascinated by film, but at all the critical moments of life Foer has been drawn to the unique power of literature, and especially poetry. However, all true art and culture has a common ground, Foer says. Unlike most other activities in society, art and culture are produced without a direct function and solely for their own sake. Foer argues that every work of art -- whether it is a painting, a book, a film or a piece of music -- is highly subjective at heart. Foer further explains why his novels often revolve around the theme of the family. "How can you not write about it," he asks, "since everybody is confronted with the subject, even those who have lost their family or grew up without it?" It would be much more relevant, he claims, to ask J.K. Rowling why she writes about wizards.

Jonathan Safran Foer was interviewed by Synne Rifbjerg.

Camera: Troels Kahl and Martin Kogi

Produced by: Kamilla Bruus and Synne Rifbjerg, 2012

Copyright: Louisiana Channel, Louisiana Museum of Modern Art.

Meet more artists at http://channel.louisiana.dk

Louisiana Channel is a non-profit video channel for the Internet launched by the Louisiana Museum of Modern Art in November 2012. Each week Louisiana Channel will publish videos about and with artists in visual art, literature, architecture, design etc.

Read more:
http://channel.louisiana.dk/about

Supported by Nordea-fonden.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
Louisiana Channel
Duration:
12:08

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