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[crowd talking loudly throughout]
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Hi. I work for the local food bank
and a homeless shelter,
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and addictions is something we deal with
on a daily basis.
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[JT] Mm-hmm?
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And I'd like to know your thoughts
on legalizing marijuana.
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I think that what's most important
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-- if you're working with young people,
you know --
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it's essential to keep marijuana
out of the hands of our young people.
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It's not really young people.
We're dealing with the after-effects.
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[JT] Mm-hm, mm-hm.
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30, 40, 50 years old
[JT] Yep.
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who have lost their life
due to addictions.
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Yeah. Well, listen, addictions are
a problem whether it be alcohol,
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whether it be nicotine ... Marijuana is
actually less addictive than many others
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but it's not a health food supplement,
and my concern is that right now
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we have a war on drugs that isn't working.
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We're funneling billions of dollars
into criminal organizations and gangs,
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we're having our kids access pot
easier than they're accessing alcohol,
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and we need to realize that the
current prohibition just isn't working.
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And if we actually start controlling it
and regulating it,
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and investing in the kind of research
and public education that we can have,
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we can actually keep people
a lot safer in their choices.
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Addiction is a real problem,
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and it's something that we have to
make sure we're supporting,
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but a continued prohibition isn't
going to do anything
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about preventing the addiction problems.
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So the 50-year-old man
that's life is broken,
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you think that it's easier
for me to say to him,
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"The government supports
the broken life that you have"?
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Like, I have these people in my
everyday world,
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that their lives are broken, and more
access to that is just gonna further --
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from our end,
more people in our shelters ...
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[JT, speaking at same time] And, and,
their lives are broken because of pot.
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No. It's one of the leading --
it's the gateway drug to the addictions.
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[JT] OK. Yes, yes, the gateway argument
is one that keeps coming back,
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which is why, honestly,
I think it's so important
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to keep it out of the hands
of our teenagers,
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and that's why this current prohibition,
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which doesn't work to keep it
out of the hands of our teenagers,
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needs to stop. We need to make sure
that we are protecting our kids
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from accessing drugs like alcohol,
like cigarettes, and like pot,
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but the way to do that is by controlling it
and giving up on this current prohibition.
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So my 16-year-old should have
more access than what she already has?
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I've already found her --
[JT] No, no, sorry, sorry, sorry.
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I've been listening to you.
You need to listen to what I'm saying.
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You found your 16-year-old with marijuana?
- Yes, yep, we did.
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So the current approach isn't working
[woman] No, I agree it's not working, but --
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[JT] to keep marijuana out of
the hands of your teenager.
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And what I'm saying is, if we control it,
if we regulate it the same way we regulate
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or even maybe slightly tougher
than alcohol,
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your 16-year-old won't have easy access
to marijuana, and that's what we both want.
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What I'm saying is,
the current approach doesn't work.
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So an approach like alcohol would be ...
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the way alcohol is monitored
would be a better approach.
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It would be a much better approach, yes.
- She's also drinking alcohol,
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[JT] OK, well that's ...
[woman] that's being provided to her
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by people who are above age,
who are then getting that alcohol
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and giving it to her
at the gravel pits here in town.
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[JT] Well listen, listen. That sounds like
it's an issue that goes beyond just access.
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It has to do with community,
with peers, with parenting,
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and these are things that we
do need to focus on as well,
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but the fact is, the fact that your
16-year-old has easy access
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to marijuana right now means that
the current approach is not protecting her
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from marijuana, and I respect tremendously
the work you've done with addiction,
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and we need to do more work
on helping people through addiction,
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but it's not gonna work
with this current prohibition
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that actually keeps easy access to kids,
keeps billions of dollars going into
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criminal organizations, and spends
500 million dollars a year on prosecuting,
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on going after marijuana crimes,
money that would be much better invested
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in addiction programs and in the
social services that will help
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people move beyond addictions
to all sorts of things.
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[reporter] Une question en francais?
[JT] Oui, bien sur.
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[man] Just one second.
I just wanted to let you know,
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Candice has done a lot of great work
in our community.
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Her husband is the executive assistant
to Vic Toews
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[JT] OK.
... and she's done a great job for us.
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[JT]
Then your husband knows how the approach,
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being tough on crime in the wrong way,
just doesn't work.
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Yep, but my goal, my stuff is --
[JT] I'm glad you agree.
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-- working with the needy and the poverty
and the homeless in our community.
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[JT] And that's what we need to do.
[woman] Separate from who my husband is --
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We need a government that's much more
generous and much more engaged,
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much more supportive
of community organizations
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than this current government is, and I'm
proud to be able to encourage you for that.