OEB 2015 - Tomorrow's New World: Extending the Reach of Learning - Toby Walsh
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0:00 - 0:03(Toby Walsh) I want to talk
about artificial intelligence: it's -- -
0:04 - 0:05I'm a professor of artificial intelligence
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0:05 - 0:09and its a great time, 2015,
to be working in AI. -
0:10 - 0:11We're making real palpable progress
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0:11 - 0:13and there's loads of money
being thrown at us. -
0:13 - 0:17Google just spent
five hundred million dollars -- -
0:17 - 0:22pounds buying an AI startup called Deep Mind a couple of weeks ago,
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0:22 - 0:25today they announced that they were
going to spend a billion dollars -
0:26 - 0:28setting up an AI lab in Silicon Valley.
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0:29 - 0:32IBM is betting about
a third of the company -
0:32 - 0:35on their cognitive AI computing effort.
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0:35 - 0:38So it's really interesting time to be working in AI.
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0:39 - 0:42But the first thing I wanted to
help inform you about -
0:42 - 0:47is what is the state of art,
what progress have we made in AI -
0:47 - 0:51because Hollywood paints
all these pictures, -
0:51 - 0:53these mostly dystopian pictures of AI.
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0:53 - 0:59Whenever the next science fiction movie
comes out, I put my head in my hands -
0:59 - 1:02and think Oh my God, what do people think
that we're doing? -
1:02 - 1:09So, I wanted to start by just giving you
a feel for what actually is really capable. -
1:09 - 1:14So a couple of years ago, IBM Watson
won the game show Jeopardy 1, -
1:14 - 1:20the million dollar prize in the game show,
Jeopardy P, the reigning human champions. -
1:20 - 1:23Now, you might think, well that's just
a party trick, isn't it? -
1:23 - 1:28It's a -- pour enough of Wikipedia
and the internet into a computer, -
1:28 - 1:31and it can answer general knowledge
questions. -
1:31 - 1:33Well, you guys are being a bit unfair to
IBM Watson, -
1:33 - 1:36there are the cryptic questions
they are answering. -
1:36 - 1:41But just to give you a real feel for
what is technically possible today, -
1:41 - 1:44something that was announced
just two days ago: -
1:44 - 1:52some colleagues of mine at NII in Japan
passed the University Entrance Exam -
1:52 - 1:53with an AI program.
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1:53 - 1:56Now, I thought long and hard about
putting up a page of maths. -
1:56 - 1:58I thought, well, I'm going to get --
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1:58 - 2:00half of the audience is going to
leave immediately -
2:00 - 2:01if I put up a page of math
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2:01 - 2:03But I wanted you to see, just to feel
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2:04 - 2:07the depth of questions
that they were answering. -
2:07 - 2:12So this is from the maths paper, you know,
a non trivial, sort of, -
2:12 - 2:15if you come from the UK,
A-level-like math question -
2:15 - 2:16that they were able to answer
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2:17 - 2:22Here is a physics question
about Newtonian dynamics -
2:22 - 2:24that they were able to answer.
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2:24 - 2:29Now they got 511 points, out of
a maximum of 950. -
2:29 - 2:32That's more than the average score
of Japanese students -
2:32 - 2:34sitting the entrance exam.
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2:34 - 2:39They would have got into most
Japanese universities with a score of 511. -
2:39 - 2:41That's what's possible today.
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2:41 - 2:44Their ambition in 10 years' time is to get
into Tokyo, University of Tokyo, -
2:44 - 2:46which is one of the best universities
in the world. -
2:48 - 2:50So, this is why I put up
a picture of Terminator, -
2:50 - 2:53because whenever I talk to the media
about what we do in AI, -
2:53 - 2:56they put up a picture of Terminator,
right? -
2:56 - 2:58So I don't want you to worry
about Terminator, -
2:58 - 3:02Terminator is at least
50 to 100 years away. -
3:03 - 3:06and there are lots of reasons why
we don't have to worry about it, -
3:06 - 3:07about Terminator.
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3:07 - 3:09I'm not going to go and spend
too much time -
3:09 - 3:11on why you don't have to worry about Terminator.
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3:12 - 3:13But there is actually things
that you should worry about, -
3:13 - 3:15much nearer than Terminator.
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3:17 - 3:20Many people have said,
Stephen Hawkins has said -
3:20 - 3:23that, you know, AI is going to spell
the end of the human race. -
3:23 - 3:28Elon Musk chimed in afterwards, said
"It's our biggest existential threat." -
3:30 - 3:33Bill Gates followed on by saying,
"Elon Musk was right." -
3:33 - 3:40Lots of people have said that's a --
AI is a real existential threat to us. -
3:40 - 3:43I don't want you to worry about
the existential threat that AI -
3:43 - 3:45or Terminator is going to bring.
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3:46 - 3:48There's actually a very common confusion,
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3:48 - 3:51which is that it's not the AI
that's going to be the existential threat, -
3:51 - 3:52it's autonomy, it's autonomous systems.
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3:54 - 3:56What's in the (check) --
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3:56 - 3:58it isn't it going to wake up
any time in the morning and say: -
3:58 - 4:02"You know what? I'm tired
of playing Jeopardy, -
4:02 - 4:04"I want to play Who Wants to Be a Millionaire!
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4:05 - 4:07"Or wait a second, I'm tired of playing
game shows, -
4:07 - 4:09I want to take over the universe."
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4:10 - 4:12It's just not in its code, there is no way,
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4:12 - 4:15it's not given any freedom to think
about anything other -
4:15 - 4:17than maximizing its Jeopardy score.
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4:18 - 4:21And it has no desires, no other desires than,
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4:21 - 4:23other to improve its maximum scores.
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4:23 - 4:26So I don't want you to worry about Terminator,
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4:27 - 4:29but I do want you to worry about jobs.
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4:30 - 4:32Because lots of people,
lots of very serious people, -
4:32 - 4:35have been saying
hat AI is going to end jobs, -
4:35 - 4:38and that is a very great consequence
for anyone working in education, -
4:38 - 4:42because, certainly, the jobs that are going
to exist in the future -
4:42 - 4:45are going to be different
than the jobs that exist today. -
4:47 - 4:50Now, who has an odd birthday?
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4:51 - 4:53Well, I haven't told you
what an odd birthday is yet, -
4:53 - 4:55so someone has an odd birthday, like me.
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4:55 - 4:58OK. Who was born on an odd-number
day of the month? -
4:58 - 5:00I was born on the 11th of April, right?
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5:01 - 5:03Come on, it's half the room,
I know it's half the room. -
5:03 - 5:05(Laughter)
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5:05 - 5:09OK.Well, you want to have
an odd birthday, by the way, -
5:09 - 5:13because that means, in 20 years' time,
you will be a person with a job. -
5:13 - 5:16As opposed to the even people,
who won't have jobs. -
5:16 - 5:21That's certainty -- if you believe
lots of serious people, -
5:22 - 5:25you might have missed this news
on Friday the 13th, -
5:25 - 5:28I thought this was a rather
depressing news story -
5:28 - 5:30....... (check) comparison otherwise ...... (check)
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5:30 - 5:32but the chief economist, Bank of England,
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5:32 - 5:36went on the record saying 50% of jobs
were under threat in the UK. -
5:37 - 5:40And he's not the first serious person
who should know what he's talking about -
5:40 - 5:43who said similar things.
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5:43 - 5:46There was a very influential Merrill Lynch
report that came out a month or to ago -
5:46 - 5:49saying very similar things about
the impact of AI, -
5:49 - 5:51robotics, automation on jobs.
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5:53 - 5:56And some of this goes back to, I think,
one of the first reports -
5:56 - 5:59that really hit the press,
that really got people's attention, -
5:59 - 6:02was a report that came out of
the Oxford Martin School. -
6:02 - 6:06They predicted that 47% of jobs
in the United States -
6:06 - 6:09were under threat of automation
in the next 20 years. -
6:10 - 6:14We followed that up
with a very similar study and analysis -
6:14 - 6:16for jobs in Australia, where I work.
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6:17 - 6:19And because it's a slightly different
profile of workers, -
6:19 - 6:24of the work force in Australia, we came up
with a number of around 40%. -
6:24 - 6:27These are non trivial numbers, right?
40-50%. -
6:28 - 6:32No, just an aside: 47%, I don't know
why they didn't say 47.2%, right? -
6:32 - 6:36You can't believe a number
that's far too precise -
6:36 - 6:38when you're predicting the future,
but nevertheless, -
6:38 - 6:40the fact that it's of this sort of scale,
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6:40 - 6:45you've got to take away: it wasn't 4%,
it was roughly about half the jobs. -
6:48 - 6:50Now, let's put some context to this.
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6:50 - 6:52I mean, is this really a credible claim?
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6:52 - 6:56The Number One job
in the United States today: truck driver. -
6:56 - 6:58Now you might have noticed,
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6:58 - 7:00the autonomous cars
are coming to us very soon. -
7:01 - 7:04We're going to be having -- tried
the first trial of autonomous cars -
7:04 - 7:07on the roads, public roads of Australia,
three weeks ago. -
7:07 - 7:10The Google Car has driven
over a million kilometers -
7:10 - 7:13-- or the Google cars, rather,
have driven over a million kilometers, -
7:13 - 7:15autonomously, on the roads of California.
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7:16 - 7:19In 20 years' time, we are going to have
autonomous cars. -
7:19 - 7:20We're also going to have
autonomous trucks. -
7:21 - 7:25So if you are in the Number One profession
in the United States, -
7:25 - 7:28you have to worry that your job
is not going to be automated away. -
7:30 - 7:32The Number Two job in the United States
is salesperson. -
7:33 - 7:36Again, since we use the internet,
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7:36 - 7:40we've actually mostly automated
that process ourselves, -
7:40 - 7:43but it's clear that a lot of those jobs
are going to be disappearing. -
7:43 - 7:47So I think these claims
have a lot of credibility. -
7:49 - 7:53There's actually a nice dinner party game
that my colleagues in AI play -
7:53 - 7:56at the end of our conferences,
where we sit around -
7:56 - 7:58and the game is, you have to name a job
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7:59 - 8:03and then, someone has to put up
some credible evidence -
8:03 - 8:06that we're actually well on the way
to actually automating that. -
8:06 - 8:08And this game is almost impossible to win.
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8:09 - 8:10If I had more time,
I'd play the game with you. -
8:11 - 8:15The only -- about the only winning answer
is politician. -
8:16 - 8:18(Laughter)
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8:18 - 8:21They will certainly regulate that
they'll be the last to be automated. -
8:21 - 8:23But that's about
the only winning answer we have. -
8:24 - 8:29So -- and it's not just technology
that is the cause of this. -
8:29 - 8:33There's many other, really,
sort of rather unhelpful trends. -
8:33 - 8:36If you were trying to set up
the world's economy, -
8:36 - 8:39you would not put these things
all down on the table at the same time: -
8:39 - 8:41the global,
ongoing global financial crisis, -
8:41 - 8:44which seems like
it will never disappear, I think; -
8:45 - 8:48the fact that we're all living longer:
this is great, great news for us -
8:48 - 8:50but bad news for employment;
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8:51 - 8:54the impact of globalization, the fact that
we can outsource our work -
8:54 - 8:56to cheaper economies.
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8:56 - 9:00All of these things
are compounding the impact -
9:00 - 9:03that technology is having
on the nature of work. -
9:05 - 9:10And this transformation is going to be
different than the last one, -
9:10 - 9:11the Industrial revolution.
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9:12 - 9:16There's no hard and fast
rule of economics that says: -
9:17 - 9:20"As many jobs need to be created
by a new technology as destroyed." -
9:20 - 9:23Every time we have a new technology,
of course, new jobs are created. -
9:23 - 9:26There's lots of, there's thousands,
hundreds of thousands of new jobs -
9:26 - 9:28enabled by technology today.
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9:28 - 9:32But there's no reason that they have to
balance exactly those that are destroyed. -
9:33 - 9:36In the last -- in the last revolution,
that did happen to be the case. -
9:37 - 9:41A third of the population was working
out in the fields, in agriculture. -
9:41 - 9:45Now, worldwide,
it's 3 or 4% of the world's population -
9:45 - 9:46working in agriculture.
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9:46 - 9:48Those people are working
in factories and offices now. -
9:48 - 9:52We employ far more people than we did
at the turn of the 19th century. -
9:53 - 9:56But this one looks different, this
information revolution looks different. -
9:56 - 10:00It looks like it has the potential
to take away more jobs, perhaps, -
10:00 - 10:02than it does.
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10:02 - 10:04And one of the other things is that
we used to think -
10:04 - 10:05it was the blue-collar jobs.
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10:07 - 10:11And that's true: if you go
to a car factory today, sure enough, -
10:11 - 10:13there are robots
that are doing the painting, -
10:13 - 10:15there are robots
that are doing the welding. -
10:15 - 10:17But nowadays, it's white-collar jobs:
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10:17 - 10:20it's journalists, it's lawyers,
it's accountants, -
10:20 - 10:22these jobs that are under threat.
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10:22 - 10:25These graphs here show
the percentage change in employment -
10:25 - 10:31and the change in employment rates.
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10:32 - 10:35And it's the middle, the middle class,
white-collar professions -
10:35 - 10:38that we thought that you would go
to university to make yourself safe, -
10:38 - 10:41but it seems to be the ones
that are most under threat. -
10:41 - 10:43If you are a ....... (check)
it's probably -- -
10:43 - 10:46you're too cheap to be replaced
by something automated. -
10:46 - 10:50But if you're a more expensive person,
and this means (check) -
10:50 - 10:53that the rich are getting richer and
inequalities that we are seeing in society -
10:53 - 10:55that are distressing our societies to day,
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10:55 - 10:58seem to be magnified
by these technological changes. -
11:00 - 11:02And there is so many frightening graphs,
-
11:02 - 11:04Go and read
Thomas Picketty (check), I encourage you. -
11:04 - 11:06Go and look at one of his books
and you can see here -
11:06 - 11:10that we're seeing
a constant improvement in productivity. -
11:10 - 11:13Technology is buying us
those improvements in productivity, -
11:13 - 11:18is increasing our wealth,
but there's a leveling off of employment. -
11:18 - 11:20And so, the challenge, then, is how
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11:21 - 11:24-- it's a question for society,
not for a technologist like myself -- -
11:24 - 11:26how do we all benefit
from this rising tide, -
11:26 - 11:31not so that it is the rich get richer
and the rest of us get further behind. -
11:32 - 11:36So, many parts of many jobs
looks likely (check) to be automated. -
11:37 - 11:40One confusion is this: people say
these jobs are going to disappear. -
11:40 - 11:43Actually, it seems to be more likely that
many parts of your job will be automated. -
11:43 - 11:46But that still means that there is
perhaps less employment around. -
11:46 - 11:49So how can you make yourself
more future-proof? -
11:49 - 11:51Well, I have two pieces of advice
as a technologist, -
11:51 - 11:54in terms of what's going to be
technically possible in AI. -
11:54 - 11:58Either you've got to embrace the future,
so become like me, -
11:59 - 12:02become someone who's working
on trying to invent that future. -
12:02 - 12:04And if you're not technically minded,
that's fine: -
12:04 - 12:07I've got the other part of the equation,
the other answer to your question -
12:07 - 12:10which is completely at the other end
of the spectrum, which is: -
12:11 - 12:14focus on those things that find as AI, (check)
the hardest things, -
12:14 - 12:16making computers more creative,
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12:16 - 12:19making computers that can understand
your emotional state, -
12:19 - 12:23focusing on emotional terms
and not intellectual intelligence. -
12:25 - 12:27So, how safe is education?
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12:27 - 12:29The room is here, full of people
working in education. -
12:29 - 12:30How safe are your jobs?
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12:30 - 12:33Well these are the numbers
from that Oxford Martin report I wrote. -
12:34 - 12:35So if you're a telemarketeer,
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12:35 - 12:3899% chance that
you're going to be automated. -
12:38 - 12:39Not surprising, right?
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12:39 - 12:41Easy to automate, it's down the phone.
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12:43 - 12:45Some of the numbers
I just don't want you to take away: -
12:45 - 12:48they used machine only, they used AI
to actually generate the report -
12:48 - 12:50and I don't believe some of the numbers,
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12:50 - 12:53I don't believe:
"Bicycle repairmen: 94%." -
12:53 - 12:55There's no chance in hell
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12:55 - 12:57that the bicycle repair person
is going to be automated: -
12:57 - 12:59far too cheap and intricate a job.
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12:59 - 13:04"Parking lot attendant: 87%."
I don't know why it's not 100%: -
13:04 - 13:06well, you're not going to have
parking lot attendants, for sure. -
13:07 - 13:08But look: luckily,
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13:08 - 13:10you and me are
right at the bottom of the list, -
13:11 - 13:13down at the 0's and 1%, right?
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13:13 - 13:15I think those numbers
probably underestimate -
13:16 - 13:19how replaceable or
how irreplaceable we are, -
13:19 - 13:23but nevertheless,
you can take some heart away -
13:23 - 13:25from the sort of numbers you see there.
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13:26 - 13:28And the reason being?
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13:28 - 13:31The first reason is, because
we're dealing with people, -
13:31 - 13:32we're trying
to understand people, -
13:32 - 13:36understand their motivations,
what are their mental blocks. -
13:36 - 13:38These are things that are
really hard to get computers, -
13:38 - 13:41I can tell you, really hard to get
computers, program computers to do. -
13:44 - 13:47So, one of the things, I think,
we have to realize, -
13:47 - 13:50is that with this impact that automation
and AI in particular -
13:50 - 13:52is going to have on jobs
-
13:52 - 13:55-- and as was mentioned in several
of the earlier talks -- -
13:55 - 13:59is that of course, we try to educate
people for a future that does not exist, -
13:59 - 14:01for technologies
that have yet to be invented. -
14:01 - 14:05Education, therefore, inherently,
is going to have to be a lifelong process. -
14:06 - 14:08We can't teach you
the programming language of the future, -
14:08 - 14:10because we haven't invented it.
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14:10 - 14:13It's going to be --
we have to teach you fundamental ideas -
14:14 - 14:17so that you can then go off and learn
as you go on in life. -
14:18 - 14:19So, to have a job,
you're going to have to -
14:19 - 14:22keep yourself abreast
of the latest technologies -
14:22 - 14:26and AI and technologies should be there
to help us do that. -
14:27 - 14:33AI will help that lifelong journey, and
I think the big thing that AI can help is, -
14:33 - 14:36is to personalize
that learning experience, -
14:36 - 14:39to construct a model
of your understanding of the topic. -
14:40 - 14:43So, to generate you
infinite numbers of test problems -
14:43 - 14:46that can be tailored to exactly
where your state of knowledge is, -
14:46 - 14:49and then mark those test problems
instantly. -
14:49 - 14:51So, the fact that we can answer,
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14:51 - 14:54that we can answer
Japanese college entrance exams means -
14:54 - 14:56that we can also mark
Japanese college entrance exams. -
14:56 - 14:58We can do all those things, right?
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14:58 - 15:01with technology, and we can do it for you.
-
15:02 - 15:04And MOOCs will turn into
-- I've invented a little acronym there -- -
15:04 - 15:08POOCs, Personal Open Online Courses,
right? -
15:08 - 15:10I don't think they should be massive,
they should be for you. -
15:11 - 15:13You can choose your own trajectory.
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15:13 - 15:15I always find it very strange
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15:15 - 15:19that we're there still
just like the classroom experience. -
15:19 - 15:20We should be able to follow
-
15:20 - 15:24whatever interesting trajectory we want
through the material. -
15:24 - 15:28And then, of course, use AI techniques
like data mining analytics -
15:28 - 15:32across the massive part of the MOOC
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15:32 - 15:34to really improve
your learning experience. -
15:35 - 15:38So, I just wanted to conclude by saying
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15:38 - 15:40AI is not quite
what you see in the movies -
15:41 - 15:43but we are making impressive progress
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15:43 - 15:46and it's certainly going to be
an interesting part of the equation -
15:46 - 15:48for this interesting future
that we all face. -
15:48 - 15:56Thank you very much.
(Applause)
- Title:
- OEB 2015 - Tomorrow's New World: Extending the Reach of Learning - Toby Walsh
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Toby Walsh - Professor of Artificial Intelligence at the University of New South Wales - Australia
How can we ensure that education is ready to prepare learners for the future? And how can we create new learning environments which enhance the benefit of education? Learn about the latest theories, new digital solutions, policies, strategies, research and insights, as our expert speakers shared their enthusiasm for tomorrow’s new world of learning.
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