A neural portrait of the human mind
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0:01 - 0:02Today I want to tell you
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0:02 - 0:04about a project being carried out
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0:04 - 0:06by scientists all over the world
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0:06 - 0:10to paint a neural portrait of the human mind.
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0:10 - 0:12And the central idea of this work
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0:12 - 0:14is that the human mind and brain
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0:14 - 0:16is not a single, general-purpose processor,
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0:16 - 0:20but a collection of highly specialized components,
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0:20 - 0:23each solving a different specific problem,
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0:23 - 0:25and yet collectively making up
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0:25 - 0:30who we are as human beings and thinkers.
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0:30 - 0:31To give you a feel for this idea,
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0:31 - 0:34imagine the following scenario:
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0:34 - 0:36You walk into your child's day care center.
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0:36 - 0:38As usual, there's a dozen kids there
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0:38 - 0:40waiting to get picked up,
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0:40 - 0:41but this time,
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0:41 - 0:44the children's faces look weirdly similar,
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0:44 - 0:47and you can't figure out which child is yours.
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0:47 - 0:49Do you need new glasses?
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0:49 - 0:51Are you losing your mind?
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0:51 - 0:53You run through a quick mental checklist.
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0:53 - 0:55No, you seem to be thinking clearly,
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0:55 - 0:58and your vision is perfectly sharp.
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0:58 - 0:59And everything looks normal
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0:59 - 1:02except the children's faces.
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1:02 - 1:03You can see the faces,
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1:03 - 1:05but they don't look distinctive,
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1:05 - 1:07and none of them looks familiar,
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1:07 - 1:09and it's only by spotting an orange hair ribbon
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1:09 - 1:11that you find your daughter.
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1:11 - 1:15This sudden loss of the ability to recognize faces
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1:15 - 1:16actually happens to people.
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1:16 - 1:18It's called prosopagnosia,
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1:18 - 1:19and it results from damage
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1:19 - 1:22to a particular part of the brain.
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1:22 - 1:23The striking thing about it
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1:23 - 1:26is that only face recognition is impaired;
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1:26 - 1:28everything else is just fine.
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1:28 - 1:32Prosopagnosia is one of many surprisingly specific
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1:32 - 1:37mental deficits that can happen after brain damage.
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1:37 - 1:38These syndromes collectively
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1:38 - 1:40have suggested for a long time
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1:40 - 1:44that the mind is divvied up into distinct components,
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1:44 - 1:46but the effort to discover those components
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1:46 - 1:48has jumped to warp speed
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1:48 - 1:51with the invention of brain imaging technology,
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1:51 - 1:54especially MRI.
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1:54 - 1:57So MRI enables you to see internal anatomy
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1:57 - 1:58at high resolution,
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1:58 - 2:00so I'm going to show you in a second
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2:00 - 2:03a set of MRI cross-sectional images
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2:03 - 2:05through a familiar object,
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2:05 - 2:06and we're going to fly through them
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2:06 - 2:08and you're going to try to figure out what the object is.
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2:08 - 2:10Here we go.
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2:12 - 2:14It's not that easy. It's an artichoke.
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2:14 - 2:16Okay, let's try another one,
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2:16 - 2:18starting from the bottom and going through the top.
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2:21 - 2:22Broccoli! It's a head of broccoli.
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2:22 - 2:24Isn't it beautiful? I love that.
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2:24 - 2:26Okay, here's another one. It's a brain, of course.
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2:26 - 2:28In fact, it's my brain.
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2:28 - 2:30We're going through slices through my head like that.
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2:30 - 2:31That's my nose over on the right, and now
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2:31 - 2:35we're going over here, right there.
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2:35 - 2:39So this picture's nice, if I do say so myself,
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2:39 - 2:41but it shows only anatomy.
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2:41 - 2:44The really cool advance with functional imaging
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2:44 - 2:45happened when scientists figured out how to make
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2:45 - 2:49pictures that show not just anatomy but activity,
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2:49 - 2:51that is, where neurons are firing.
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2:51 - 2:53So here's how this works.
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2:53 - 2:54Brains are like muscles.
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2:54 - 2:56When they get active,
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2:56 - 2:58they need increased blood flow to supply that activity,
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2:58 - 3:02and lucky for us, blood flow
control to the brain is local, -
3:02 - 3:04so if a bunch of neurons, say, right there
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3:04 - 3:06get active and start firing,
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3:06 - 3:08then blood flow increases just right there.
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3:08 - 3:12So functional MRI picks up
on that blood flow increase, -
3:12 - 3:14producing a higher MRI response
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3:14 - 3:17where neural activity goes up.
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3:17 - 3:19So to give you a concrete feel
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3:19 - 3:21for how a functional MRI experiment goes
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3:21 - 3:23and what you can learn from it
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3:23 - 3:24and what you can't,
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3:24 - 3:28let me describe one of the first studies I ever did.
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3:28 - 3:32We wanted to know if there was a special
part of the brain for recognizing faces, -
3:32 - 3:35and there was already reason to
think there might be such a thing -
3:35 - 3:36based on this phenomenon of prosopagnosia
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3:36 - 3:39that I described a moment ago,
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3:39 - 3:41but nobody had ever seen that part of the brain
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3:41 - 3:43in a normal person,
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3:43 - 3:45so we set out to look for it.
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3:45 - 3:47So I was the first subject.
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3:47 - 3:49I went into the scanner, I lay on my back,
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3:49 - 3:52I held my head as still as I could
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3:52 - 3:57while staring at pictures of faces like these
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3:57 - 3:59and objects like these
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3:59 - 4:04and faces and objects for hours.
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4:04 - 4:07So as somebody who has
pretty close to the world record -
4:07 - 4:10of total number of hours spent inside an MRI scanner,
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4:10 - 4:12I can tell you that one of the skills
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4:12 - 4:14that's really important for MRI research
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4:14 - 4:16is bladder control.
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4:16 - 4:18(Laughter)
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4:18 - 4:19When I got out of the scanner,
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4:19 - 4:22I did a quick analysis of the data,
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4:22 - 4:23looking for any parts of my brain
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4:23 - 4:26that produced a higher response
when I was looking at faces -
4:26 - 4:28than when I was looking at objects,
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4:28 - 4:30and here's what I saw.
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4:30 - 4:34Now this image looks just awful by today's standards,
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4:34 - 4:37but at the time I thought it was beautiful.
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4:37 - 4:39What it shows is that region right there,
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4:39 - 4:40that little blob,
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4:40 - 4:42it's about the size of an olive
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4:42 - 4:44and it's on the bottom surface of my brain
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4:44 - 4:47about an inch straight in from right there.
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4:47 - 4:50And what that part of my brain is doing
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4:50 - 4:53is producing a higher MRI response,
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4:53 - 4:54that is, higher neural activity,
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4:54 - 4:56when I was looking at faces
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4:56 - 4:58than when I was looking at objects.
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4:58 - 4:59So that's pretty cool,
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4:59 - 5:02but how do we know this isn't a fluke?
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5:02 - 5:03Well, the easiest way
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5:03 - 5:05is to just do the experiment again.
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5:05 - 5:07So I got back in the scanner,
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5:07 - 5:09I looked at more faces and I looked at more objects
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5:09 - 5:12and I got a similar blob,
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5:12 - 5:13and then I did it again
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5:13 - 5:15and I did it again
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5:15 - 5:18and again and again,
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5:18 - 5:19and around about then
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5:19 - 5:22I decided to believe it was for real.
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5:22 - 5:26But still, maybe this is
something weird about my brain -
5:26 - 5:29and no one else has one of these things in there,
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5:29 - 5:31so to find out, we scanned a bunch of other people
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5:31 - 5:34and found that pretty much everyone
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5:34 - 5:36has that little face-processing region
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5:36 - 5:38in a similar neighborhood of the brain.
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5:38 - 5:40So the next question was,
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5:40 - 5:42what does this thing really do?
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5:42 - 5:46Is it really specialized just for face recognition?
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5:46 - 5:47Well, maybe not, right?
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5:47 - 5:49Maybe it responds not only to faces
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5:49 - 5:51but to any body part.
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5:51 - 5:53Maybe it responds to anything human
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5:53 - 5:55or anything alive
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5:55 - 5:57or anything round.
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5:57 - 5:59The only way to be really sure that that region
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5:59 - 6:01is specialized for face recognition
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6:01 - 6:04is to rule out all of those hypotheses.
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6:04 - 6:07So we spent much of the next couple of years
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6:07 - 6:08scanning subjects while they looked at lots
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6:08 - 6:10of different kinds of images,
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6:10 - 6:12and we showed that that part of the brain
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6:12 - 6:14responds strongly when you look at
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6:14 - 6:17any images that are faces of any kind,
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6:17 - 6:19and it responds much less strongly
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6:19 - 6:22to any image you show that isn't a face,
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6:22 - 6:24like some of these.
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6:24 - 6:26So have we finally nailed the case
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6:26 - 6:29that this region is necessary for face recognition?
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6:29 - 6:31No, we haven't.
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6:31 - 6:32Brain imaging can never tell you
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6:32 - 6:35if a region is necessary for anything.
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6:35 - 6:36All you can do with brain imaging
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6:36 - 6:38is watch regions turn on and off
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6:38 - 6:40as people think different thoughts.
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6:40 - 6:44To tell if a part of the brain is
necessary for a mental function, -
6:44 - 6:46you need to mess with it and see what happens,
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6:46 - 6:49and normally we don't get to do that.
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6:49 - 6:51But an amazing opportunity came about
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6:51 - 6:54very recently when a couple of colleagues of mine
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6:54 - 6:57tested this man who has epilepsy
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6:57 - 7:00and who is shown here in his hospital bed
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7:00 - 7:01where he's just had electrodes placed
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7:01 - 7:03on the surface of his brain
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7:03 - 7:06to identify the source of his seizures.
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7:06 - 7:08So it turned out by total chance
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7:08 - 7:10that two of the electrodes
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7:10 - 7:13happened to be right on top of his face area.
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7:13 - 7:16So with the patient's consent,
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7:16 - 7:18the doctors asked him what happened
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7:18 - 7:22when they electrically stimulated
that part of his brain. -
7:22 - 7:24Now, the patient doesn't know
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7:24 - 7:25where those electrodes are,
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7:25 - 7:28and he's never heard of the face area.
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7:28 - 7:30So let's watch what happens.
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7:30 - 7:32It's going to start with a control condition
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7:32 - 7:34that will say "Sham" nearly invisibly
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7:34 - 7:36in red in the lower left,
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7:36 - 7:38when no current is delivered,
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7:38 - 7:42and you'll hear the neurologist speaking
to the patient first. So let's watch. -
7:42 - 7:44(Video) Neurologist: Okay, just look at my face
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7:44 - 7:47and tell me what happens when I do this.
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7:47 - 7:48All right?
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7:48 - 7:51Patient: Okay.
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7:51 - 7:55Neurologist: One, two, three.
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7:55 - 7:58Patient: Nothing.
Neurologist: Nothing? Okay. -
7:58 - 8:01I'm going to do it one more time.
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8:01 - 8:04Look at my face.
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8:04 - 8:08One, two, three.
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8:08 - 8:11Patient: You just turned into somebody else.
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8:11 - 8:13Your face metamorphosed.
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8:13 - 8:16Your nose got saggy, it went to the left.
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8:16 - 8:20You almost looked like somebody I'd seen before,
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8:20 - 8:22but somebody different.
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8:22 - 8:25That was a trip.
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8:25 - 8:28(Laughter)
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8:28 - 8:29Nancy Kanwisher: So this experiment —
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8:29 - 8:33(Applause) —
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8:33 - 8:36this experiment finally nails the case
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8:36 - 8:38that this region of the brain is not only
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8:38 - 8:40selectively responsive to faces
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8:40 - 8:43but causally involved in face perception.
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8:43 - 8:45So I went through all of these details
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8:45 - 8:48about the face region to show you what it takes
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8:48 - 8:50to really establish that a part of the brain
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8:50 - 8:53is selectively involved in a specific mental process.
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8:53 - 8:55Next, I'll go through much more quickly
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8:55 - 8:58some of the other specialized regions of the brain
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8:58 - 9:00that we and others have found.
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9:00 - 9:02So to do this, I've spent a lot of time
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9:02 - 9:04in the scanner over the last month
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9:04 - 9:06so I can show you these things in my brain.
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9:06 - 9:10So let's get started. Here's my right hemisphere.
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9:10 - 9:12So we're oriented like that.
You're looking at my head this way. -
9:12 - 9:13Imagine taking the skull off
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9:13 - 9:16and looking at the surface of the brain like that.
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9:16 - 9:17Okay, now as you can see,
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9:17 - 9:19the surface of the brain is all folded up.
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9:19 - 9:21So that's not good. Stuff could be hidden in there.
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9:21 - 9:22We want to see the whole thing,
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9:22 - 9:25so let's inflate it so we can see the whole thing.
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9:25 - 9:28Next, let's find that face area I've been talking about
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9:28 - 9:30that responds to images like these.
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9:30 - 9:32To see that, let's turn the brain around
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9:32 - 9:34and look on the inside surface on the bottom,
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9:34 - 9:36and there it is, that's my face area.
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9:36 - 9:39Just to the right of that is another region
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9:39 - 9:41that is shown in purple
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9:41 - 9:44that responds when you process color information,
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9:44 - 9:46and near those regions are other regions
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9:46 - 9:49that are involved in perceiving places,
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9:49 - 9:52like right now, I'm seeing
this layout of space around me -
9:52 - 9:53and these regions in green right there
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9:53 - 9:55are really active.
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9:55 - 9:57There's another one out on the outside surface again
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9:57 - 10:00where there's a couple more face regions as well.
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10:00 - 10:02Also in this vicinity
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10:02 - 10:04is a region that's selectively involved
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10:04 - 10:06in processing visual motion,
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10:06 - 10:07like these moving dots here,
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10:07 - 10:10and that's in yellow at the bottom of the brain,
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10:10 - 10:13and near that is a region that responds
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10:13 - 10:16when you look at images of bodies and body parts
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10:16 - 10:19like these, and that region is shown in lime green
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10:19 - 10:21at the bottom of the brain.
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10:21 - 10:23Now all these regions I've shown you so far
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10:23 - 10:28are involved in specific aspects of visual perception.
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10:28 - 10:30Do we also have specialized brain regions
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10:30 - 10:33for other senses, like hearing?
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10:33 - 10:36Yes, we do. So if we turn the brain around a little bit,
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10:36 - 10:38here's a region in dark blue
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10:38 - 10:41that we reported just a couple of months ago,
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10:41 - 10:42and this region responds strongly
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10:42 - 10:46when you hear sounds with pitch, like these.
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10:46 - 10:48(Sirens)
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10:48 - 10:50(Cello music)
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10:50 - 10:52(Doorbell)
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10:52 - 10:55In contrast, that same region
does not respond strongly -
10:55 - 10:57when you hear perfectly familiar sounds
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10:57 - 10:59that don't have a clear pitch, like these.
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10:59 - 11:02(Chomping)
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11:02 - 11:04(Drum roll)
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11:04 - 11:07(Toilet flushing)
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11:07 - 11:09Okay. Next to the pitch region
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11:09 - 11:12is another set of regions that
are selectively responsive -
11:12 - 11:14when you hear the sounds of speech.
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11:14 - 11:16Okay, now let's look at these same regions.
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11:16 - 11:19In my left hemisphere, there's a similar arrangement —
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11:19 - 11:20not identical, but similar —
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11:20 - 11:22and most of the same regions are in here,
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11:22 - 11:24albeit sometimes different in size.
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11:24 - 11:26Now, everything I've shown you so far
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11:26 - 11:29are regions that are involved in
different aspects of perception, -
11:29 - 11:31vision and hearing.
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11:31 - 11:33Do we also have specialized brain regions
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11:33 - 11:36for really fancy, complicated mental processes?
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11:36 - 11:38Yes, we do.
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11:38 - 11:41So here in pink are my language regions.
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11:41 - 11:43So it's been known for a very long time
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11:43 - 11:45that that general vicinity of the brain
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11:45 - 11:47is involved in processing language,
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11:47 - 11:49but we showed very recently
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11:49 - 11:50that these pink regions
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11:50 - 11:53respond extremely selectively.
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11:53 - 11:55They respond when you understand
the meaning of a sentence, -
11:55 - 11:58but not when you do other complex mental things,
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11:58 - 12:00like mental arithmetic
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12:00 - 12:03or holding information in memory
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12:03 - 12:05or appreciating the complex structure
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12:05 - 12:08in a piece of music.
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12:10 - 12:13The most amazing region that's been found yet
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12:13 - 12:16is this one right here in turquoise.
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12:16 - 12:18This region responds
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12:18 - 12:22when you think about what another person is thinking.
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12:22 - 12:24So that may seem crazy,
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12:24 - 12:28but actually, we humans do this all the time.
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12:28 - 12:30You're doing this when you realize
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12:30 - 12:32that your partner is going to be worried
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12:32 - 12:34if you don't call home to say you're running late.
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12:34 - 12:38I'm doing this with that region of my brain right now
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12:38 - 12:40when I realize that you guys
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12:40 - 12:42are probably now wondering about
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12:42 - 12:44all that gray, uncharted territory in the brain,
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12:44 - 12:46and what's up with that?
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12:46 - 12:48Well, I'm wondering about that too,
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12:48 - 12:50and we're running a bunch of
experiments in my lab right now -
12:50 - 12:52to try to find a number of other
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12:52 - 12:54possible specializations in the brain
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12:54 - 12:58for other very specific mental functions.
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12:58 - 13:00But importantly, I don't think we have
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13:00 - 13:02specializations in the brain
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13:02 - 13:04for every important mental function,
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13:04 - 13:08even mental functions that may be critical for survival.
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13:08 - 13:10In fact, a few years ago,
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13:10 - 13:11there was a scientist in my lab
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13:11 - 13:12who became quite convinced
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13:12 - 13:14that he'd found a brain region
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13:14 - 13:16for detecting food,
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13:16 - 13:18and it responded really strongly in the scanner
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13:18 - 13:21when people looked at images like this.
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13:21 - 13:24And further, he found a similar response
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13:24 - 13:26in more or less the same location
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13:26 - 13:28in 10 out of 12 subjects.
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13:28 - 13:30So he was pretty stoked,
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13:30 - 13:31and he was running around the lab
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13:31 - 13:33telling everyone that he was going to go on "Oprah"
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13:33 - 13:35with his big discovery.
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13:35 - 13:38But then he devised the critical test:
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13:38 - 13:41He showed subjects images of food like this
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13:41 - 13:44and compared them to images with very similar
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13:44 - 13:48color and shape, but that weren't food, like these.
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13:48 - 13:50And his region responded the same
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13:50 - 13:52to both sets of images.
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13:52 - 13:53So it wasn't a food area,
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13:53 - 13:56it was just a region that liked colors and shapes.
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13:56 - 13:59So much for "Oprah."
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14:00 - 14:03But then the question, of course, is,
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14:03 - 14:05how do we process all this other stuff
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14:05 - 14:08that we don't have specialized brain regions for?
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14:08 - 14:10Well, I think the answer is that in addition
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14:10 - 14:13to these highly specialized components
that I've been describing, -
14:13 - 14:17we also have a lot of very general-
purpose machinery in our heads -
14:17 - 14:18that enables us to tackle
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14:18 - 14:20whatever problem comes along.
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14:20 - 14:23In fact, we've shown recently that
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14:23 - 14:25these regions here in white
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14:25 - 14:28respond whenever you do any difficult mental task
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14:28 - 14:29at all —
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14:29 - 14:33well, of the seven that we've tested.
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14:33 - 14:35So each of the brain regions that I've described
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14:35 - 14:36to you today
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14:36 - 14:39is present in approximately the same location
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14:39 - 14:41in every normal subject.
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14:41 - 14:42I could take any of you,
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14:42 - 14:43pop you in the scanner,
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14:43 - 14:46and find each of those regions in your brain,
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14:46 - 14:48and it would look a lot like my brain,
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14:48 - 14:50although the regions would be slightly different
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14:50 - 14:53in their exact location and in their size.
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14:53 - 14:56What's important to me about this work
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14:56 - 14:59is not the particular locations of these brain regions,
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14:59 - 15:01but the simple fact that we have
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15:01 - 15:04selective, specific components of mind and brain
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15:04 - 15:05in the first place.
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15:05 - 15:07I mean, it could have been otherwise.
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15:07 - 15:10The brain could have been a single,
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15:10 - 15:11general-purpose processor,
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15:11 - 15:13more like a kitchen knife
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15:13 - 15:15than a Swiss Army knife.
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15:15 - 15:18Instead, what brain imaging has delivered
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15:18 - 15:22is this rich and interesting picture of the human mind.
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15:22 - 15:24So we have this picture of very general-purpose
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15:24 - 15:25machinery in our heads
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15:25 - 15:27in addition to this surprising array
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15:27 - 15:31of very specialized components.
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15:32 - 15:34It's early days in this enterprise.
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15:34 - 15:37We've painted only the first brushstrokes
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15:37 - 15:40in our neural portrait of the human mind.
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15:40 - 15:43The most fundamental questions remain unanswered.
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15:43 - 15:46So for example, what does each
of these regions do exactly? -
15:46 - 15:49Why do we need three face areas
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15:49 - 15:50and three place areas,
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15:50 - 15:53and what's the division of labor between them?
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15:53 - 15:56Second, how are all these things
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15:56 - 15:57connected in the brain?
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15:57 - 15:59With diffusion imaging,
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15:59 - 16:01you can trace bundles of neurons
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16:01 - 16:04that connect to different parts of the brain,
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16:04 - 16:05and with this method shown here,
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16:05 - 16:09you can trace the connections of
individual neurons in the brain, -
16:09 - 16:12potentially someday giving us a wiring diagram
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16:12 - 16:14of the entire human brain.
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16:14 - 16:16Third, how does all of this
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16:16 - 16:19very systematic structure get built,
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16:19 - 16:22both over development in childhood
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16:22 - 16:25and over the evolution of our species?
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16:25 - 16:27To address questions like that,
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16:27 - 16:28scientists are now scanning
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16:28 - 16:31other species of animals,
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16:31 - 16:36and they're also scanning human infants.
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16:37 - 16:41Many people justify the high
cost of neuroscience research -
16:41 - 16:43by pointing out that it may help us someday
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16:43 - 16:47to treat brain disorders like Alzheimer's and autism.
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16:47 - 16:49That's a hugely important goal,
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16:49 - 16:52and I'd be thrilled if any of my work contributed to it,
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16:52 - 16:55but fixing things that are broken in the world
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16:55 - 16:58is not the only thing that's worth doing.
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16:58 - 17:01The effort to understand the human mind and brain
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17:01 - 17:04is worthwhile even if it never led to the treatment
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17:04 - 17:05of a single disease.
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17:05 - 17:08What could be more thrilling
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17:08 - 17:11than to understand the fundamental mechanisms
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17:11 - 17:13that underlie human experience,
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17:13 - 17:16to understand, in essence, who we are?
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17:16 - 17:19This is, I think, the greatest scientific quest
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17:19 - 17:22of all time.
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17:22 - 17:28(Applause)
- Title:
- A neural portrait of the human mind
- Speaker:
- Nancy Kanwisher
- Description:
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Brain imaging pioneer Nancy Kanwisher, who uses fMRI scans to see activity in brain regions (often her own), shares what she and her colleagues have learned: The brain is made up of both highly specialized components and general-purpose "machinery." Another surprise: There's so much left to learn.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 17:42
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