The neurons that shaped civilization
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0:00 - 0:03I'd like to talk to you today about the human brain,
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0:03 - 0:05which is what we do research on at the University of California.
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0:05 - 0:07Just think about this problem for a second.
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0:07 - 0:10Here is a lump of flesh, about three pounds,
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0:10 - 0:12which you can hold in the palm of your hand.
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0:12 - 0:16But it can contemplate the vastness of interstellar space.
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0:16 - 0:18It can contemplate the meaning of infinity,
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0:18 - 0:21ask questions about the meaning of its own existence,
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0:21 - 0:23about the nature of God.
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0:23 - 0:25And this is truly the most amazing thing in the world.
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0:25 - 0:28It's the greatest mystery confronting human beings:
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0:28 - 0:30How does this all come about?
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0:30 - 0:32Well, the brain, as you know, is made up of neurons.
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0:32 - 0:34We're looking at neurons here.
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0:34 - 0:37There are 100 billion neurons in the adult human brain.
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0:37 - 0:40And each neuron makes something like 1,000 to 10,000 contacts
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0:40 - 0:42with other neurons in the brain.
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0:42 - 0:44And based on this, people have calculated
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0:44 - 0:47that the number of permutations and combinations of brain activity
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0:47 - 0:50exceeds the number of elementary particles in the universe.
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0:50 - 0:52So, how do you go about studying the brain?
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0:52 - 0:54One approach is to look at patients who had lesions
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0:54 - 0:57in different part of the brain, and study changes in their behavior.
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0:57 - 0:59This is what I spoke about in the last TED.
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0:59 - 1:01Today I'll talk about a different approach,
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1:01 - 1:03which is to put electrodes in different parts of the brain,
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1:03 - 1:07and actually record the activity of individual nerve cells in the brain.
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1:07 - 1:11Sort of eavesdrop on the activity of nerve cells in the brain.
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1:11 - 1:14Now, one recent discovery that has been made
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1:14 - 1:16by researchers in Italy, in Parma,
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1:16 - 1:19by Giacomo Rizzolatti and his colleagues,
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1:19 - 1:21is a group of neurons called mirror neurons,
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1:21 - 1:24which are on the front of the brain in the frontal lobes.
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1:24 - 1:26Now, it turns out there are neurons
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1:26 - 1:29which are called ordinary motor command neurons in the front of the brain,
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1:29 - 1:31which have been known for over 50 years.
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1:31 - 1:34These neurons will fire when a person performs a specific action.
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1:34 - 1:37For example, if I do that, and reach and grab an apple,
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1:37 - 1:41a motor command neuron in the front of my brain will fire.
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1:41 - 1:44If I reach out and pull an object, another neuron will fire,
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1:44 - 1:46commanding me to pull that object.
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1:46 - 1:48These are called motor command neurons that have been known for a long time.
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1:48 - 1:50But what Rizzolatti found was
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1:50 - 1:52a subset of these neurons,
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1:52 - 1:54maybe about 20 percent of them, will also fire
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1:54 - 1:57when I'm looking at somebody else performing the same action.
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1:57 - 2:00So, here is a neuron that fires when I reach and grab something,
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2:00 - 2:03but it also fires when I watch Joe reaching and grabbing something.
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2:03 - 2:05And this is truly astonishing.
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2:05 - 2:07Because it's as though this neuron is adopting
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2:07 - 2:09the other person's point of view.
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2:09 - 2:13It's almost as though it's performing a virtual reality simulation
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2:13 - 2:15of the other person's action.
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2:15 - 2:18Now, what is the significance of these mirror neurons?
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2:18 - 2:21For one thing they must be involved in things like imitation and emulation.
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2:21 - 2:24Because to imitate a complex act
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2:24 - 2:27requires my brain to adopt the other person's point of view.
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2:27 - 2:29So, this is important for imitation and emulation.
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2:29 - 2:31Well, why is that important?
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2:31 - 2:34Well, let's take a look at the next slide.
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2:34 - 2:37So, how do you do imitation? Why is imitation important?
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2:37 - 2:39Mirror neurons and imitation, emulation.
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2:39 - 2:43Now, let's look at culture, the phenomenon of human culture.
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2:43 - 2:47If you go back in time about [75,000] to 100,000 years ago,
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2:47 - 2:49let's look at human evolution, it turns out
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2:49 - 2:52that something very important happened around 75,000 years ago.
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2:52 - 2:54And that is, there is a sudden emergence and rapid spread
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2:54 - 2:57of a number of skills that are unique to human beings
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2:57 - 2:59like tool use,
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2:59 - 3:02the use of fire, the use of shelters, and, of course, language,
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3:02 - 3:04and the ability to read somebody else's mind
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3:04 - 3:06and interpret that person's behavior.
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3:06 - 3:08All of that happened relatively quickly.
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3:08 - 3:11Even though the human brain had achieved its present size
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3:11 - 3:13almost three or four hundred thousand years ago,
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3:13 - 3:15100,000 years ago all of this happened very, very quickly.
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3:15 - 3:18And I claim that what happened was
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3:18 - 3:21the sudden emergence of a sophisticated mirror neuron system,
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3:21 - 3:23which allowed you to emulate and imitate other people's actions.
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3:23 - 3:27So that when there was a sudden accidental discovery
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3:27 - 3:30by one member of the group, say the use of fire,
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3:30 - 3:32or a particular type of tool, instead of dying out,
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3:32 - 3:35this spread rapidly, horizontally across the population,
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3:35 - 3:38or was transmitted vertically, down the generations.
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3:38 - 3:40So, this made evolution suddenly Lamarckian,
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3:40 - 3:42instead of Darwinian.
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3:42 - 3:45Darwinian evolution is slow; it takes hundreds of thousands of years.
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3:45 - 3:47A polar bear, to evolve a coat,
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3:47 - 3:50will take thousands of generations, maybe 100,000 years.
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3:50 - 3:53A human being, a child, can just watch its parent
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3:53 - 3:56kill another polar bear,
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3:56 - 3:59and skin it and put the skin on its body, fur on the body,
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3:59 - 4:01and learn it in one step. What the polar bear
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4:01 - 4:03took 100,000 years to learn,
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4:03 - 4:06it can learn in five minutes, maybe 10 minutes.
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4:06 - 4:08And then once it's learned this it spreads
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4:08 - 4:11in geometric proportion across a population.
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4:11 - 4:14This is the basis. The imitation of complex skills
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4:14 - 4:17is what we call culture and is the basis of civilization.
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4:17 - 4:19Now there is another kind of mirror neuron,
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4:19 - 4:21which is involved in something quite different.
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4:21 - 4:23And that is, there are mirror neurons,
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4:23 - 4:26just as there are mirror neurons for action, there are mirror neurons for touch.
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4:26 - 4:28In other words, if somebody touches me,
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4:28 - 4:30my hand, neuron in the somatosensory cortex
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4:30 - 4:32in the sensory region of the brain fires.
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4:32 - 4:35But the same neuron, in some cases, will fire
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4:35 - 4:37when I simply watch another person being touched.
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4:37 - 4:40So, it's empathizing the other person being touched.
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4:40 - 4:42So, most of them will fire when I'm touched
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4:42 - 4:45in different locations. Different neurons for different locations.
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4:45 - 4:47But a subset of them will fire even when I watch somebody else
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4:47 - 4:49being touched in the same location.
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4:49 - 4:51So, here again you have neurons
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4:51 - 4:53which are enrolled in empathy.
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4:53 - 4:56Now, the question then arises: If I simply watch another person being touched,
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4:56 - 5:00why do I not get confused and literally feel that touch sensation
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5:00 - 5:02merely by watching somebody being touched?
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5:02 - 5:06I mean, I empathize with that person but I don't literally feel the touch.
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5:06 - 5:08Well, that's because you've got receptors in your skin,
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5:08 - 5:10touch and pain receptors, going back into your brain
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5:10 - 5:13and saying "Don't worry, you're not being touched.
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5:13 - 5:16So, empathize, by all means, with the other person,
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5:16 - 5:18but do not actually experience the touch,
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5:18 - 5:20otherwise you'll get confused and muddled."
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5:20 - 5:22Okay, so there is a feedback signal
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5:22 - 5:24that vetoes the signal of the mirror neuron
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5:24 - 5:27preventing you from consciously experiencing that touch.
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5:27 - 5:30But if you remove the arm, you simply anesthetize my arm,
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5:30 - 5:32so you put an injection into my arm,
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5:32 - 5:34anesthetize the brachial plexus, so the arm is numb,
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5:34 - 5:36and there is no sensations coming in,
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5:36 - 5:38if I now watch you being touched,
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5:38 - 5:40I literally feel it in my hand.
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5:40 - 5:42In other words, you have dissolved the barrier
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5:42 - 5:44between you and other human beings.
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5:44 - 5:47So, I call them Gandhi neurons, or empathy neurons.
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5:47 - 5:48(Laughter)
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5:48 - 5:51And this is not in some abstract metaphorical sense.
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5:51 - 5:53All that's separating you from him,
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5:53 - 5:55from the other person, is your skin.
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5:55 - 5:59Remove the skin, you experience that person's touch in your mind.
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5:59 - 6:02You've dissolved the barrier between you and other human beings.
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6:02 - 6:04And this, of course, is the basis of much of Eastern philosophy,
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6:04 - 6:07and that is there is no real independent self,
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6:07 - 6:09aloof from other human beings, inspecting the world,
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6:09 - 6:11inspecting other people.
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6:11 - 6:14You are, in fact, connected not just via Facebook and Internet,
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6:14 - 6:17you're actually quite literally connected by your neurons.
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6:17 - 6:20And there is whole chains of neurons around this room, talking to each other.
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6:20 - 6:22And there is no real distinctiveness
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6:22 - 6:24of your consciousness from somebody else's consciousness.
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6:24 - 6:26And this is not mumbo-jumbo philosophy.
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6:26 - 6:29It emerges from our understanding of basic neuroscience.
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6:29 - 6:32So, you have a patient with a phantom limb. If the arm has been removed
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6:32 - 6:34and you have a phantom, and you watch somebody else
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6:34 - 6:36being touched, you feel it in your phantom.
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6:36 - 6:38Now the astonishing thing is,
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6:38 - 6:41if you have pain in your phantom limb, you squeeze the other person's hand,
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6:41 - 6:43massage the other person's hand,
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6:43 - 6:45that relieves the pain in your phantom hand,
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6:45 - 6:47almost as though the neuron
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6:47 - 6:49were obtaining relief from merely
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6:49 - 6:51watching somebody else being massaged.
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6:51 - 6:54So, here you have my last slide.
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6:54 - 6:56For the longest time people have regarded science
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6:56 - 6:58and humanities as being distinct.
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6:58 - 7:01C.P. Snow spoke of the two cultures:
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7:01 - 7:03science on the one hand, humanities on the other;
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7:03 - 7:05never the twain shall meet.
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7:05 - 7:07So, I'm saying the mirror neuron system underlies the interface
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7:07 - 7:10allowing you to rethink about issues like consciousness,
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7:10 - 7:12representation of self,
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7:12 - 7:14what separates you from other human beings,
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7:14 - 7:16what allows you to empathize with other human beings,
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7:16 - 7:19and also even things like the emergence of culture and civilization,
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7:19 - 7:21which is unique to human beings. Thank you.
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7:21 - 7:23(Applause)
- Title:
- The neurons that shaped civilization
- Speaker:
- Vilayanur Ramachandran
- Description:
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Neuroscientist Vilayanur Ramachandran outlines the fascinating functions of mirror neurons. Only recently discovered, these neurons allow us to learn complex social behaviors, some of which formed the foundations of human civilization as we know it.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 07:25
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