176th Knowledge Seekers Workshop, "Blueprint for Peace in the Islamic World" June 15, 2017

taken a copy of.

This is how intimidating is, never been
heard,

anybody who
wants to go into court, to sit,

have been asked for the ID.

This is how bad it is, let them explain,
and then we go through it, please.

Is he there?

(PB) Hi Mr Keshe

(MK) Yes! Can you speak
a bit louder please?

(PB) Jep! Mr Keshe, good morning
(MK) Good morning,

can you tell us who you are,
and what... what you have to tell us?

(PB) I am Patrick from Belgium,
we have a group here, Keshe Followers.

We have a monthly meeting, ...
every month we talk about things going on,

and then all the best...

(MK) Can you speak a bit clearer,
we can't hear you.

(PB) Yeah! And... Yeah we went with the
part of group to... to the guard.

in Kortrijk on Monday, and ....
most of the people it was the first time.

to go to court, because ...
we're just normal people,

we're not used to be in court, so we
don't know exactly how it works in court.

So, we went in and ... we were
searching for Mr Keshe's lawyer

It took a while, every people asking,
other lawyers for the Mr Keshe lawyer.

And, then we wanted to go in the room,
where the case was going to happen.

And then two guys came to us

showed two seconds a
badge to us, it's a sort of polit badge.

and he said, there was ....
"Yeah, you have to give your passport,"

"before you can go in the room."

But we thought it's a normal situation,
maybe in this court,

so we gave our passports
and we saw that they took copies of it

and then they give our passports back
and then we went in the room.

Waiting for... for the case. And ...
there were other cases going on so.

We said, "Can we go outside again,
and try to find the lawyer of Mr Keshe?"

Then we saw that people who were
walking in, in and out of the room

and nobody else
had to give a passport.

So, onl... we...
we start realizing,

that only we, had to give a
passport to go in the room.

So, it was
straight...

It was a strange feeling,
a bit weird, and then

we were noticing that...
that people were looking to us

watching us, and the two guys,
and so,

Then we saw, we went,
all went in together

and Mr Keshe's lawyer said,
"Yeah, it starts at around 10."

We all went in the room,
and then... the case started.

The guys, that had asked, had ask
for the passports?

Came, came in the room,
also did it, was standing behind or ...

And then the case started and ...
after the case we went outside,

and... and we asked the law...
again Mr Keshe's lawyer

Is it normal that we have to give
a passport, before we can enter the room.

And... Yeah! The lawyer
seems a bit nervous to me

he, he didn't know what to say. He said,
"Yeah, this is a special case."

He said, "but don't worry too much about
the passports, that's no problem."

So, then we started realizing
that they were all watching us

and they were very intimidate
because we were there.

We heard also the lawyer of Mr DL's,
saying to..., to the Judge

That Mr Keshe is sending his
followers to court and my client

doesn't feel good with it,
better own this place.

So, we start realizing that there was a lot
of attention coming to us,

about everything,
with what was going on.

and, yeah, that was it...
we went outside and

and we have... we... it was all a bit weird,
the whole, whole thing was...

it was a strange experience,
also when we went out of the court,

the case was, was...
we went out

and Mr DL took a
picture of the whole group.

Ja, it's, it's a weird
real weird situation, it was.

We were not interfered or whatever, we,
we didn't do anything wrong,

We just... we were
just following the case,

everybody can go in the
room and follow a case, so.

We are not criminals

so, we added that was it

(MK) This... the
intimidation which

has happened with all
the Keshe Foundation followers.

Thank you very much for being there,
please go back on the 26th,

that we see what will come
and what, it'll be decided.

It is important that we realise
according to the International Law

Is a crime committed
by the police.

Intimidation in a court of law,
it's a criminal offense

Purjury, and I think you
saw Mr Laureyssens with the police.

As we read in the other
reports which we received.

Am I correct?

Hello? Patrick?

(PB) Hello Mr Keshe,
sorry I didn't hear.

(MK) I said, you saw Me Laureyssens with
the police, with the two police officer?

(PB) Yes, yes, yes, ... they were
standing together after the case.

(MK) You see, this is what we saw if you...
Thank you very much for going there.

I know we have huge number of supporters
in Belgium, they've been all, intimidated,

Don't worry I thank you
all who've been there,

please go there
on the 6th... 26th again.

We have submitted our case into three
courts at the moment, simultaneously

That, the court of Belgium decision,
will be in line with the other two.

...At the moment, what we
have seen, is what we said....

Never, ever, been heard
even in Presidential court cases,

people's ID being taken.

When I spoke with
a American Lawyer, he said,

"When we had President Clinton,
giving evidence,

no ones cert... documents
were ever photographed

This shows the
level of criminality

which they think they have
a freedom to run in Belgium.

but as we said, as you've said,
"He's close, he stands with the police,"

"he works with them. He's been
part of them."

He fooled us to get in,
but we bless is Soul.

He's done a lot of good for the
Foundation and is still doing good.

He doesn't realise how?

But, in the other hand, I would like to
thank you, and the others who went there.

Please, go back again on 26th,
till we see what the Judge decides

when the evidence is given.

Thank you very
much indeed Patrick,

and to all the ladies and the other
gentlemen who were with you.

(PB) Okay, Thank
you Mr Keshe.

(MK) Thank you
very much indeed.

We don't have much to say,
it was just if we said, you all said,

I... we are phobic, but now you
understand how

Keshe Foundation supporters
in Belgium are under pressure.

We have asked for a number of
Governments to intervene,

and we will
see how will happen,

because police can
not intimidate in a court of Law.

It did not happen
during the Roman time

It did not happen
in the Barbarian time

It happens in the lowest Nation,
police force in Belgium.

Intimidation, criminality
and everything else.

We pray,
and I... as I said,

"We hope we raise the
Soul of the king of Belgium."

That he does the justice, to himself,
and to his Nation and Humanity.