NEWSNIGHT - Paxman vs Brand. Full Interview.

Newsnight's Jeremy Paxman talks to Russell Brand about voting, revolution and beards...

Russell Brand who are you to edit a political magazine?

well i suppose like a person is being
politely asked by interactive woman

I don't know what the typical criteria is

I don't know many people the Edit political magazines

boris he said he wanted me

so on the car a person with crazy
here quite good sense of humor

don't know much about politics I'm ideal

but is it really don't even vote you know

well how do you have any authority to talk about politics?

well I don't get my authority from this
pre-existing paradigm which is quite narrow

and only says a few people I'll look elsewhere for alternatives that might be of service to humanity

alternate means lieutenant political systems

they being well-known vanity a chair maybe I've the magazine of legal lol me
play by I say but he's the Phoenician do

shouldn't destroy the planet

shouldn't create massive economic disparity

shouldn't ignore the needs of the people

the burden of proof is on the people with the power
not people like doing a magazine

how do you imagine the people get power?

well I met in there so high Rocco systems they've been preserved
for the generalized being voted I tornado ID

be asked to vote on this quite narrow
quite narrow prescriptive parameter

that changes within the the there

in a democracy that's how it works

well I don't think is working very well Jeremy

given that the plan is being destroyed
given there's economic disparity refused a great
what time does note any note and no I'm not today I'm saying if your copy of the
vote why should we be asked to listen to your political point if...
you don't have to listen to my political point if you buy it not

%uh I'm not voting out apathy
I'm not voting out absolute indifference and
weariness exhaustion from the lies Treasury desi up the political class
but has been going on for generations now
I which is now reached fever pitch we have addition franchise this illusion
despondent underclass not being represented

by the Apple ecosystem

so vote injuries pass it complicit a with that system

that's not something I'm offering up what you change it then up to

one stop by Vogue think it works people have voted already

and that will create the current parents are you last boat never

you've never ever vote know do you think that's really bad actor you struck at

issue what before the age of eighty

well as busy being a drug addict that point to come from the kind of social

conditions that are exacerbated by a different system that really just

administrator for large corporations ignore the population it will rain in

the south who claim the political class the fact you had a drug problem

no no no i'm saying I was Papa social and economic class

that is underserved by the current political system and drug addictions on

the problems it creates when you have huge

underserved impoverished populations people get drug problems and also I

don't feel

like admit they want to engage with the current political system because they

see that it doesn't work for them

they say that it makes no difference they say that they're not serve

I think it does not work for me if they bothered about Jeremy my darling

on a sign that the apathy doesn't come from us the people the apathy comes from

the politicians they are apathetic to Allie's they're only interested in

servicing the Native corporation look at what

I and the Tories going according to take in the EU to call it's because they're

trying to curtail

bank bonuses that was happening at the moment in our country is in it

there's a rather shoot him for that you don't believe in democracy human

Revolution don't you

the plan is being destroyed we are creating an underclass

we are exploiting poor people all over the world and the genuine legitimate

problems the people are not being addressed by our political

well as those things may be true they are true but you too

I would not be with you about many of well outcome I feel so cross with you

the cards because about be it it's gorgeous it's possibly

with the Daily Mail don't wanna all I do I can't blame

grow it longer you are angling to your armpit hair you are a very

trivial matter would you think I'm trip you yes a minute ago you have to go back

so whenever

a revolution now I must not about what I love you

you because you want a revolution many people want a revolution but I must be

what it will be like

well I think what it won't be like is

a huge disparity between rich and poor with three hundred Americans

have the same amount of wealth as their

be million poorest Americans where there is a an exploit and underserved

underclass typing continue ignored well well well very slash

while Cameron and Osborne go to court to defend the right bank is to continue

receiving

the their bonuses once a person he thinks that's all I'm asking what's the

scheme you talked vaguely about revolution what is it

I think a socialist egalitarian system based on the massive redistribution well

heavy taxation of corporations and massive responsibility

for energy companies and any companies in sport explain environment I think

they should be

attack I think the very concept of profit should be hugely which is

David Cameron said profits in a day work I say profit is a filthy word

because wherever there is profit there is also a deficit and their the system

currently doesn't address these ideas

and so why would anyone vote for it why would anyone be interested

who'd levies taxes I think we do need like many through centralized

administrative system but pentagon

at yes I used to be a gun well not my because I goes column like the admin

boats right now they don't get about how they say shows

term it done of me to sit here in an interview with you in a bloody hotel

room and devise a global utopian system

on merely pointing out that you are calling for revolution

absolutely after I'm calling for change I'm calling for genuine alternate

there are many people who would agree with you good the current system is not

engaging with all sorts of problems yes

and they feel apathetic really epic that again

but if they were to take you seriously and not to vote

the edition by I thought I should that's one thing I said to them about

in prison when it reaches the point to these new valves

the spotlight look cozy little valves recycling in previous in like in a turn

up somewhere

it stops us reaching the pic point with a nice enough now stop blowin stop

attending wake up

be in reality now prime to be reality now what about we have reason to make

any difference we know that already

so you know I have no impact out west and you know it cheering them on

I'll of the city unnecessarily that

you and now you're being facetious well what position is has as much value

a seriousness I think you might mistake ever mistaking seriousness no cuz

soul world problems by facetious that we're not going to solve them with the

current system in this position it is funny

sometimes yet yes sometimes Jeremy so listen to this approach this

optimistically you spend your whole career beret in haranguing

politicians an unmanned supply make me to go general worthless what's the point

engage many families have a go at me

because I'm not poor anymore I'm not having a go

you about that I'm just asking why would you take you seriously

when you're so unspecific you don't want to tell you

will II firstly I don't mind if you take me seriously

I'm here just to draw attention to a few ideas I just wanna have a little bit

oval of I'm saying there are people with alternative ideas

a far better qualified than I'm and far better qualified more importantly

and the people that currently doing that job because im not attempting to solve

these problems

then No they're tempted to placate the population the

measures the company been taken around climate change I mean different

will not solve the miserably is it's possible as human beings they're simply

overwhelmed by the scale of the problem not really

will possibly might be that I mean but I so just semantics really but the

overwhelmed by

Orton tacitly maintaining it because I've had Beach well I mean

make I was is when I in now to the parliament

is decorated exactly the same as Ian is decorated that the same as Oxford

so certain type people guys and if it's all this makes me nervous and another

time have been gonna go

this is how it should be and I think that's gonna change now

we can no longer have peronist duplicitous systems held in place

unless it's for the serbs only systems that serve the plan and said the

population of the planet

can be allowed to survive not ones that seven lakes be they political

or corporal and this is what's currently happening you don't really

believe

I completely believe it doesn't mean very reliable wi-fi side

a life that you had me at Miller

we wear the same prime and promised with boris identity but he then went to a

conference in school in North London's

that's all well and good on but what i'm saying is that within the existing

paradigm the change in a dramatic enough

not radical enough so you can well understand public disturbances and

publicize faction

when they're not genuine changes and genuine alternates pilfered I say women

is a genuine alternative

a genuine option invoke that until then

Obama why pretend like be complacent in this ridiculous illusion

because by the time somebody comes along you might think it worked voting for it

may be too late

I don't think so because the time is now this movement is already occurring is

happening everywhere

wit only communication is instantaneous and their communities all over the world

the Occupy movement made a difference in even if only in I introduced to the

popular public Mexican

the idea of the one percent that is a people for the first time

in a generation are where massive corporate and economic exploitation

these things and not nonsense and these are subject are not being addressed

they have no one's doing anything about tax havens no one's doing anything about

their political affiliations and financial affiliations at the

Conservative Party

-bit was addressing the actually real

why would not be facetious what would I take it seriously why would I encourage

a consistent pictures young people back absolutely indifferent to vote

why would we aren't you bored on you more bored than anyone

you been talking on year after year listening to their lives they're not

then if this one gets in then is that one getting but the problem continues

why we gonna continue to contribute to disperse are

I'm surprise you can be facetious when you're that angry about it yeah I'm

angry

I am angry because for me it's real

me is not just some peripheral thing not turn up once in awhile to church by

for for me this is what come from this is what care about

to see any member that yep totally there's gonna be revelation is probably

going to happen

I did not know you i think i Flickr about this is the n

this is time to wake up I remember I see you in that program

way look at your ancestors and you saw that way your grandmother

we're at a process l got fucked over by as the cracks you wanna

gap you cried because you knew that it was unfair

and I'm just not what was essentially got that's happening to people now just

come from the woman is being treated like that

has been talking to women today is being treated like that

so im if we can engage that feeling said have some moment a black Remo

sentimentality played out in a TV for people to pour over emotional porn

if we can engage that feeling and strange things why wouldn't we will use

that naive

why is that not my right because I'm act power I me i i picking the right

I don't need the right from you but only the rubber anybody I'm taking