Part 4 - Mehran Keshe Talks Plasma With MrfixitRick March 5th

"If people look in second-hand shops and scrap-yards, they can make these systems for themselves." - MT Keshe

Part 4 of this discussion continues with nuclear engineer Mehran Keshe of the Keshe Foundation and Mrfixitrick's Keshe Study Group, with such plasma reactor topics as vacuum and turbo-molecular pumps, purpose of the vacuum dump chamber, and hose glowing issues. Cleanliness and the hydrogen flush technique are discussed.

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If people look into second hand shops and scrap-yards,

they can make these systems for themselves.

What do you call it...pressure cooker...

I picked up here. I was hoping to modify that; to use that...

Yes, you can buy this, it's about fifty to sixty dollars, these cylinders...

Mine was five bucks, at the Salvation Army!

Hahaha!

That's where I get all my good things!

It's surprising...I walk through

the Salvation Army looking for Plasma Reactor parts, you know...

I've done that as well, don't worry! ...I spent an hour

um, LadyDragon knows, she called me...I was at the refrigeration

supply place yesterday, and we talked

for about an hour while I was wandering around there looking at all

the neat things. Like, I was lusting after a vacuum gage

that costs about $300, for example.

Well, the thing is, this is what I do in my writing, and I always explain,

there is enough material around the world,

that even in Africa, if people look

into second hand shops and scrap-yards,

they can make these systems for themselves. That's right...that's

very encouraging, and you know, what changed my life a few months ago

was when I heard you say something about...that there will be people

making these reactors in their garages! And that to me,

that's kind of what I do, I'm an inventor and mechanic

and so on, that's what I've always done, so that was so invigorating,

and so much of a grand idea to me, that it might be

that simple, you know, that it isn't really, "Rocket Science"!

It's actually simpler than rocket science. But it's still very exact.

Rocket science belongs to Nasa.

The Space Ship Program belongs to the people in their homes.

That's right, exactly. I have a quick question...

Yes? Okay, I will turn on the video for a moment...

This...I don't know if you can see it...

Yes!

This is a container from balloon gas, I have one

pipe going to the bottom, and the other pipe is

going to the same top. And I was planning to fill it

half way with water in order to discharge the reactor inside.

No, no, no, no. Don't use any liquid, because the vapour

goes back into the reactor and causes all sorts of problems with you.

Once you extract

the gases from your core, the minute

it hits the wall of the cylinder as you have,

it releases its energy into it, that's it.

But it has an advantage, when you use a cylinder like you have.

Whenever you want to create vacuum, you go out and start the pump,

in your case, Rick.

You have to turn the pump on every time you use it to

want to create a vacuum. Right. With a double chamber,

even it is to outside, you always have vacuum

as a reservoir, you just open it, and its there.

You don't need to use your vacuum pump.

You see, when you use a molecular vacuum pump, these are timed.

Because they can get damaged, molecular vacuum pumps, very easily.

And they even have a timer on them, how much you've used them.

So, by keeping a reservoir of vacuum,

or two reservoirs; one for discharge and one for charging,

you always have a reservoir ready,

and you don't put so much pressure on your pumps. Right. The turbo...

the way I understand it, the turbo-molecular pump, it can't take

regular atmospheric pressure, it has to have a roughing pump,

similar to what I have here, in order to

bring it down to vacuum first, and then you use the turbo-molecular.

The turbo-molecular is always next to the roughing pump,

together. The roughing pump comes on, takes you to

to minus 1 or whatever, and then to minus 2 or 3, and

then the molecular comes in to take the last bits out.

Even when we use the molecular pumps,

and you think you

still have a total vacuum, in the chamber there are millions of

atoms still left behind, gases. I understand that the hydrogen and helium,

the lighter gases, are the hardest to get out. They tend to stick around in there.

You can use them. You don't need to get rid of them. You can use them.

That's what I was thinking...they would be what remains.

Yes. What you do, is you try to unify

the atoms in your container.

What this means is, instead of having...

When you do the first vacuum, you pull out a lot of things...

there is all helium, nitrogen, whatever CO2 in the inner cylinder...

but there is still some of them left. What I always do,

before I start a test, I feed in

three or four times, hydrogen. When you feed in

hydrogen, you reduce...then you vacuum it,

then you put hydrogen in a second

time and you vacuum it. And then you

reduce the, you minimize the, contamination of any other atoms

but, if, for example,

you are using plastics or glass,

even metals,

in the condition of the vacuum, releases

part of the material which is in the construction,

in the structure. So contamination

through the wall of your core

is a natural process.

So, you have to build up this layering that

you push heavy material or heavy gases

or any change of composition in the structure of your reactor,

not to come in touch with the plasma.

Do you understand what I am talking about? Now, is part of that, the way

I understand it, is having a copper reactor helps with that a lot because of the

when the magnetic field of the plasma gets

close to the wall of the copper reactor, it will tend to repel,

because of induction, magnetic induction forces involved...

We have plastic reactors...

So, does the plastic repel the plasma, or is it

just the combination of gases inside that are correct for an insulator...?

You use the gases as a shielding as a containment.

You have a solid containment of the plastic...

One of the best things to use is carbon...

If you can get carbon gas... Carbon gas, yeah?

Yeah? And the carbon is very

it's a specifically...

some places it's very easy to get...

I haven't heard of carbon gas, that's an interesting idea...

I produce it. I've been producing it myself.

Okay. This is the structure of...

You work with the CO2, as you buy

to carbonates the drinks. Yeah, yeah.

And through a specific process, you separate your carbon,

and there is another method which I show on the internet, quite a lot of people

don't understand, is through the Coca-Cola bottle.

That's the easiest way to do. Then you

use your carbon for, what do you call it...

It behaves

as a conductor and a resistor at the same time.

Depends on what vacuum condition you put on

your central core. CO2,

Now, this wouldn't work with straight CO2 or,

I have welding gas for my MIG welder, which is

CO2 plus argon.

You can use that, we have done that. But the thing is, if you use CO2,

Then you end up with O2 in there? And with the hydrogen, you get moisture

in your reactor. You get the connect force of moisture,

and then if you get to the positions,

you find out a lot of your valves, externally, between the core and

pump, they start rusting internally.

Oh yeah. This is somewhere where the condensation becomes vacuum to water.

It took me a long time to discover

why I was losing my valves!

You create a condition of rust very quickly in those positions.

So, these are little, little things that you learn by experience , and

you try to find out why you get to these positions, because you run your

vacuum pump, and you don't get to vacuum.

Yes, well last week we discovered about using water. We put water in our

vacuum chamber, and high voltage, just to see what would happen there,

and the vacuum pump oil got contaminated really quickly.

It's got all foggied, and sort of yucky looking,

so, I changed it. Had to change the oil in the vacuum pump.

It oxidizes, because it takes in the moisture from the

the oxygen from the water. Right. You have to keep away,

all the time, from combination gases,

gases which can combine to give you

new matters. In some cases, you deliberately

create the conditions to create new materials.

So what would some gases be that would be true contaminates? Like would

oxygen would be an obvious one that would tend to... You don't touch oxygen.

You wouldn't want to have even the C "O2" part of the CO2,

so CO2 wouldn't be a good idea probably. No. These are the things you have

to learn by experience. And if you always...

you know, I do this all the time,

the last barrier before your vacuum pump,

has to be micro-filters.

That the stop any new material built in your reactor, any moisture,

to be absorbed.

Yeah? So, these things

get created even in the pipes.

If you understand the structure,

you can allow, in part of your pipes, while you run your

test, to create protein.

You know the glow you saw in your pipes? Yes? The what...

in the pipe? You know you said you could see glow. Yes.

Right. Yeah, in the pipe between the vacuum and the chamber,

You can create conditions around your reactor, that in different sections

you produce different materials. Yeah?

Inside? You produce liquid, you produce matter,

and if you can feed in part of your pipe, a specific

condition of gases, you can produce protein. This is what we've done in Tehran.

Because we understood,

we understand the structure. But now, scientists like you

have to to test to come up with different ways of doing it.

The way I say in my patent, I cover every aspect of it.

The way you see

you do your reactor, or Ludmil does his reactor a different way...

there are as many different types of creating the same effect

as there are stars in the universe. Hmmm, that's a great way to put it!

Do you understand? Not only my way is the correct way.

The way I explain it, is a general way to approach

and to reach. So if you change it slightly,

you get an earth condition, you get water.

You change it in a slightly different way, you get liquid something else, or you get gold.

This is what we try to explain, in deeper space, we don't build different reactors,

for producing different materials, we use

different POSITIONS of the reactor to produce different materials.

This is a misconception, a misconception which I see a lot of people do

when they read my patent.

So, if you want

energy of the protein,

you go closer to your core. You want less, you go further out.

And that energy is always there....energy is magnetic field in motion.

You have to decide in your reactor,

in what strength you want to be, and then you calibrate your reactor core,

that this position gives me protein level,

this level, gives me copper core,

and then when you tap into it, when you extract it, it gives you different material.

Material production in the Universe is that way.