How movies teach manhood
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0:00 - 0:03You know, my favorite part of being a dad
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0:03 - 0:06is the movies I get to watch.
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0:06 - 0:08I love sharing my favorite movies with my kids,
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0:08 - 0:11and when my daughter was four,
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0:11 - 0:14we got to watch "The Wizard of Oz" together.
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0:14 - 0:17It totally dominated her imagination for months.
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0:17 - 0:20Her favorite character was Glinda, of course.
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0:20 - 0:22It gave her a great excuse to wear a sparkly dress
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0:22 - 0:24and carry a wand.
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0:24 - 0:26But you watch that movie enough times,
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0:26 - 0:28and you start to realize how unusual it is.
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0:28 - 0:31Now we live today, and are raising our children,
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0:31 - 0:37in a kind of children's-fantasy-spectacular-industrial complex.
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0:37 - 0:39But "The Wizard of Oz" stood alone.
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0:39 - 0:41It did not start that trend.
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0:41 - 0:44Forty years later was when the trend really caught on,
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0:44 - 0:47with, interestingly, another movie
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0:47 - 0:49that featured a metal guy
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0:49 - 0:50and a furry guy
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0:50 - 0:55rescuing a girl by dressing up as the enemy's guards.
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0:55 - 0:58Do you know what I'm talking about? (Laughter)
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0:58 - 0:59Yeah.
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0:59 - 1:03Now, there's a big difference between these two movies,
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1:03 - 1:05a couple of really big differences between "The Wizard of Oz"
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1:05 - 1:06and all the movies we watch today.
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1:06 - 1:09One is there's very little violence in "The Wizard of Oz."
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1:09 - 1:15The monkeys are rather aggressive, as are the apple trees.
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1:15 - 1:18But I think if "The Wizard of Oz" were made today,
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1:18 - 1:23the wizard would say, "Dorothy, you are the savior of Oz
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1:23 - 1:24that the prophecy foretold.
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1:24 - 1:26Use your magic slippers to defeat
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1:26 - 1:30the computer-generated armies of the Wicked Witch."
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1:30 - 1:32But that's not how it happens.
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1:32 - 1:34Another thing that's really unique about "The Wizard of Oz"
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1:34 - 1:37to me is that all of the most heroic
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1:37 - 1:41and wise and even villainous characters
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1:41 - 1:44are female.
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1:44 - 1:46Now I started to notice this
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1:46 - 1:49when I actually showed "Star Wars" to my daughter,
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1:49 - 1:52which was years later, and the situation was different.
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1:52 - 1:55At that point I also had a son.
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1:55 - 1:57He was only three at the time.
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1:57 - 2:01He was not invited to the screening. He was too young for that.
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2:01 - 2:02But he was the second child,
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2:02 - 2:06and the level of supervision had plummeted. (Laughter)
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2:06 - 2:10So he wandered in,
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2:10 - 2:14and it imprinted on him
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2:14 - 2:19like a mommy duck does to its duckling,
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2:19 - 2:23and I don't think he understands what's going on,
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2:23 - 2:27but he is sure soaking in it.
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2:27 - 2:28And I wonder what he's soaking in.
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2:28 - 2:31Is he picking up on the themes of courage
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2:31 - 2:33and perseverance and loyalty?
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2:33 - 2:36Is he picking up on the fact that Luke
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2:36 - 2:41joins an army to overthrow the government?
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2:41 - 2:42Is he picking up on the fact that
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2:42 - 2:45there are only boys in the universe
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2:45 - 2:49except for Aunt Beru, and of course this princess,
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2:49 - 2:53who's really cool, but who kind of waits around through most of the movie
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2:53 - 2:56so that she can award the hero with a medal and a wink
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2:56 - 2:59to thank him for saving the universe, which he does
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2:59 - 3:02by the magic that he was born with?
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3:02 - 3:05Compare this to 1939 with "The Wizard of Oz."
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3:05 - 3:08How does Dorothy win her movie?
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3:08 - 3:11By making friends with everybody
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3:11 - 3:12and being a leader.
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3:12 - 3:16That's kind of the world I'd rather raise my kids in --
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3:16 - 3:19Oz, right? -- and not the world of dudes fighting,
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3:19 - 3:21which is where we kind of have to be.
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3:21 - 3:25Why is there so much Force -- capital F, Force --
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3:25 - 3:27in the movies we have for our kids,
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3:27 - 3:29and so little yellow brick road?
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3:29 - 3:33There is a lot of great writing about the impact
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3:33 - 3:37that the boy-violent movie has on girls,
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3:37 - 3:40and you should do that reading. It's very good.
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3:40 - 3:44I haven't read as much on how boys are picking up on this vibe.
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3:44 - 3:47I know from my own experience that
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3:47 - 3:53Princess Leia did not provide the adequate context
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3:53 - 3:57that I could have used in navigating the adult world
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3:57 - 4:01that is co-ed. (Laughter)
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4:01 - 4:05I think there was a first-kiss moment
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4:05 - 4:08when I really expected the credits to start rolling
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4:08 - 4:11because that's the end of the movie, right?
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4:11 - 4:13I finished my quest, I got the girl.
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4:13 - 4:16Why are you still standing there?
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4:16 - 4:18I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
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4:18 - 4:21The movies are very, very focused on defeating the villain
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4:21 - 4:23and getting your reward, and there's not a lot of room
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4:23 - 4:26for other relationships and other journeys.
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4:26 - 4:28It's almost as though if you're a boy,
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4:28 - 4:31you are a dopey animal,
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4:31 - 4:35and if you are a girl, you should bring your warrior costume.
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4:35 - 4:37There are plenty of exceptions,
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4:37 - 4:42and I will defend the Disney princesses in front of any you.
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4:42 - 4:46But they do send a message to boys,
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4:46 - 4:48that they are not, the boys are not really the target audience.
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4:48 - 4:50They are doing a phenomenal job of teaching girls
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4:50 - 4:54how to defend against the patriarchy,
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4:54 - 4:56but they are not necessarily showing boys
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4:56 - 4:59how they're supposed to defend against the patriarchy.
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4:59 - 5:01There's no models for them.
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5:01 - 5:04And we also have some terrific women
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5:04 - 5:06who are writing new stories for our kids,
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5:06 - 5:11and as three-dimensional and delightful as Hermione and Katniss are,
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5:11 - 5:13these are still war movies.
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5:13 - 5:17And, of course, the most successful studio of all time
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5:17 - 5:21continues to crank out classic after classic,
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5:21 - 5:24every single one of them about
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5:24 - 5:28the journey of a boy, or a man,
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5:28 - 5:31or two men who are friends, or a man and his son,
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5:31 - 5:35or two men who are raising a little girl.
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5:35 - 5:39Until, as many of you are thinking, this year,
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5:39 - 5:41when they finally came out with "Brave."
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5:41 - 5:45I recommend it to all of you. It's on demand now.
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5:45 - 5:48Do you remember what the critics said when "Brave" came out?
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5:48 - 5:53"Aw, I can't believe Pixar made a princess movie."
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5:53 - 5:55It's very good. Don't let that stop you.
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5:55 - 5:59Now, almost none of these movies pass the Bechdel Test.
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5:59 - 6:00I don't know if you've heard of this.
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6:00 - 6:03It has not yet caught on and caught fire,
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6:03 - 6:05but maybe today we will start a movement.
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6:05 - 6:08Alison Bechdel is a comic book artist,
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6:08 - 6:13and back in the mid-'80s, she recorded this conversation
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6:13 - 6:16she'd had with a friend about assessing the movies that they saw.
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6:16 - 6:19And it's very simple. There's just three questions you should ask:
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6:19 - 6:22Is there more than one character in the movie
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6:22 - 6:26that is female who has lines?
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6:26 - 6:28So try to meet that bar.
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6:28 - 6:34And do these women talk to each other at any point in the movie?
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6:34 - 6:37And is their conversation about something other than
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6:37 - 6:41the guy that they both like? (Laughter)
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6:41 - 6:45Right? Thank you. (Applause)
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6:45 - 6:47Thank you very much.
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6:47 - 6:54Two women who exist and talk to each other about stuff.
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6:54 - 6:59It does happen. I've seen it,
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6:59 - 7:02and yet I very rarely see it in the movies
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7:02 - 7:04that we know and love.
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7:04 - 7:06In fact, this week I went to see
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7:06 - 7:09a very high-quality movie, "Argo."
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7:09 - 7:13Right? Oscar buzz, doing great at the box office,
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7:13 - 7:17a consensus idea of what a quality Hollywood film is.
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7:17 - 7:20It pretty much flunks the Bechdel test.
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7:20 - 7:24And I don't think it should, because a lot of the movie,
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7:24 - 7:25I don't know if you've seen it, but a lot of the movie
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7:25 - 7:29takes place in this embassy where men and women
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7:29 - 7:31are hiding out during the hostage crisis.
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7:31 - 7:33We've got quite a few scenes of the men
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7:33 - 7:38having deep, angst-ridden conversations in this hideout,
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7:38 - 7:42and the great moment for one of the actresses is
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7:42 - 7:47to peek through the door and say, "Are you coming to bed, honey?"
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7:47 - 7:49That's Hollywood for you.
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7:49 - 7:51So let's look at the numbers.
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7:51 - 7:552011, of the 100 most popular movies,
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7:55 - 7:59how many of them do you think actually have female protagonists?
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7:59 - 8:02Eleven. It's not bad.
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8:02 - 8:06It's not as many percent as the number of women
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8:06 - 8:09we've just elected to Congress, so that's good.
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8:09 - 8:12But there is a number that is greater than this
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8:12 - 8:15that's going to bring this room down.
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8:15 - 8:18Last year, The New York Times published a study
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8:18 - 8:20that the government had done.
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8:20 - 8:21Here's what it said.
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8:21 - 8:26One out of five women in America
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8:26 - 8:32say that they have been sexually assaulted some time in their life.
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8:32 - 8:36Now, I don't think that's the fault of popular entertainment.
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8:36 - 8:40I don't think kids' movies have anything to do with that.
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8:40 - 8:42I don't even think that
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8:42 - 8:45music videos or pornography are really directly related to that,
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8:45 - 8:48but something is going wrong,
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8:48 - 8:51and when I hear that statistic,
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8:51 - 8:54one of the things I think of is
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8:54 - 8:58that's a lot of sexual assailants.
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8:58 - 9:01Who are these guys? What are they learning?
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9:01 - 9:03What are they failing to learn?
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9:03 - 9:05Are they absorbing the story that
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9:05 - 9:09a male hero's job is to defeat the villain with violence
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9:09 - 9:12and then collect the reward, which is a woman
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9:12 - 9:17who has no friends and doesn't speak?
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9:17 - 9:22Are we soaking up that story?
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9:22 - 9:25You know,
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9:25 - 9:27as a parent with the privilege
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9:27 - 9:30of raising a daughter
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9:30 - 9:33like all of you who are doing the same thing,
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9:33 - 9:37we find this world and this statistic very alarming
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9:37 - 9:38and we want to prepare them.
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9:38 - 9:42We have tools at our disposal like "girl power,"
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9:42 - 9:45and we hope that that will help,
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9:45 - 9:48but I gotta wonder, is girl power going to protect them
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9:48 - 9:51if, at the same time, actively or passively,
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9:51 - 9:56we are training our sons to maintain their boy power?
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9:56 - 9:59I mean, I think the Netflix queue
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9:59 - 10:03is one way that we can do something very important,
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10:03 - 10:06and I'm talking mainly to the dads here.
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10:06 - 10:09I think we have got to show our sons
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10:09 - 10:10a new definition of manhood.
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10:10 - 10:15The definition of manhood is already turning upside down.
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10:15 - 10:17You've read about how the new economy
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10:17 - 10:20is changing the roles of caregiver and wage earner.
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10:20 - 10:22They're throwing it up in the air.
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10:22 - 10:25So our sons are going to have to find some way
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10:25 - 10:28of adapting to this, some new relationship with each other,
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10:28 - 10:32and I think we really have to show them, and model for them,
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10:32 - 10:35how a real man
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10:35 - 10:39is someone who trusts his sisters
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10:39 - 10:42and respects them, and wants to be on their team,
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10:42 - 10:46and stands up against the real bad guys,
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10:46 - 10:50who are the men who want to abuse the women.
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10:50 - 10:53And I think our job in the Netflix queue
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10:53 - 10:56is to look out for those movies that pass the Bechdel Test,
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10:56 - 11:01if we can find them, and to seek out the heroines
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11:01 - 11:02who are there,
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11:02 - 11:06who show real courage, who bring people together,
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11:06 - 11:10and to nudge our sons to identify with those heroines
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11:10 - 11:13and to say, "I want to be on their team,"
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11:13 - 11:18because they're going to be on their team.
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11:18 - 11:21When I asked my daughter who her favorite character was in "Star Wars,"
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11:21 - 11:23do you know what she said?
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11:23 - 11:26Obi-Wan.
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11:26 - 11:30Obi-Wan Kenobi and Glinda.
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11:30 - 11:33What do these two have in common?
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11:33 - 11:35Maybe it's not just the sparkly dress.
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11:35 - 11:39I think these people are experts.
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11:39 - 11:40I think these are the two people in the movie
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11:40 - 11:42who know more than anybody else,
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11:42 - 11:45and they love sharing their knowledge with other people
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11:45 - 11:48to help them reach their potential.
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11:48 - 11:50Now, they are leaders.
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11:50 - 11:53I like that kind of quest for my daughter,
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11:53 - 11:55and I like that kind of quest for my son.
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11:55 - 11:57I want more quests like that.
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11:57 - 11:59I want fewer quests where my son is told,
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11:59 - 12:02"Go out and fight it alone,"
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12:02 - 12:07and more quests where he sees that it's his job to join a team,
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12:07 - 12:11maybe a team led by women,
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12:11 - 12:16to help other people become better
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12:16 - 12:19and be better people,
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12:19 - 12:21like the Wizard of Oz.
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12:21 - 12:34Thank you.
- Title:
- How movies teach manhood
- Speaker:
- Colin Stokes
- Description:
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When Colin Stokes’ 3-year-old son caught a glimpse of Star Wars, he was instantly obsessed. But what messages did he absorb from the sci-fi classic? Stokes asks for more movies that send positive messages to boys: that cooperation is heroic, and respecting women is as manly as defeating the villain. (Filmed at TEDxBeaconStreet.)
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 12:56
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