Greening the Island of the Gods
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0:17 - 0:19In a lot of countries in the West,
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0:19 - 0:23dealing with your waste, you're kind of separated from it,
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0:23 - 0:27you put it in the bin and it magically disappears.
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0:27 - 0:29Someone comes, it's all arranged for you. You don't have to think about it.
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0:29 - 0:33And here, you have to make an extra effort, because there really isn't a system, so you have to
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0:33 - 0:37think about it. You're confronted with it. So even though there's a really bad problem, there's a
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0:37 - 0:41positive side, because you're forced to recognize the problem. You're forced
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0:41 - 0:46to have to deal with it. So looking at that side of it, it's really an opportunity
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0:46 - 0:51for people to kind of confront their
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0:51 - 0:53their consumption, their pollution.
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1:06 - 1:10Bali has a problem about every year
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1:10 - 1:14our coastal, when it's the season once a year,
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1:14 - 1:17a lot of plastic garbage landed in Kuta
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1:17 - 1:20coastal. The government said this is because
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1:20 - 1:25of the sea tides. It's not about the
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1:25 - 1:29sea tides, from my opinion, it's about people still throw
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1:29 - 1:32plastic garbage in the river or in the
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1:32 - 1:36canals and they flow to the ocean, and the ocean will bring it back
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1:36 - 1:38to the land.
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3:46 - 3:49Waste management is a little bit the land of no one, no?
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3:49 - 3:53I mean it's a little bit, you can almost do
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3:53 - 3:57whatever you want without really being caught. / But the garbage problem
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3:57 - 4:01affects everybody, rich and poor, and if you can't deal with that
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4:01 - 4:05basic problem- pollution from your waste- then how are
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4:05 - 4:09you going to deal with these large, more complex problems, like deforestation,
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4:09 - 4:13destruction of the coral reef, and climate change. I mean, it's like
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4:13 - 4:17the easy one to handle. / If you're talking about
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4:17 - 4:20garbage problem in Bali,
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4:20 - 4:26from my perspective,
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4:26 - 4:29you can debate about it, but actually
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4:29 - 4:33the original
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4:33 - 4:37culture of people in Bali here, they're really
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4:37 - 4:41clean, in their house. They wake up in the morning, like
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4:41 - 4:435:00 early, and already
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4:43 - 4:49clean their house, clean their yard, and
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4:49 - 4:52before sunset also they're doing the same thing
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4:52 - 4:56they clean it, and they throw all the garbage into
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4:56 - 5:01the area in the household
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5:01 - 5:04it's called "tegalang", it means
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5:04 - 5:07the area that you plant or grow anything, or
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5:07 - 5:12you grow a pig there or something. There is a special area
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5:12 - 5:18to put this garbage. But a long long time
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5:18 - 5:21ago, let's say 25 or 30 years ago,
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5:21 - 5:26most of this garbage was organic
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5:26 - 5:28and the Balinese, most
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5:28 - 5:33of the Balinese, are still doing this culture,
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5:33 - 5:37only the material of the garbage has changed.
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5:37 - 5:39Now it's plastic. / Waste is a man-made concept.
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5:39 - 5:43It didn't really exist, and it especially didn't exist before
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5:43 - 5:47the 50s and 60s. Everything was organic; we didn't have all this man-made
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5:47 - 5:51material. / Mostly things would have been packaged in banana leaves, so if you look at
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5:51 - 5:56the offerings, your daily offerings which can be bought at the market,
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5:56 - 6:00they are now being packaged in plastic bags, single use
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6:00 - 6:03very thin, high density plastic that is used once
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6:03 - 6:06and then thrown away because it's so thin you can't really reuse it.
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6:06 - 6:11That would have all been packaged in banana leaves. But I also think that
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6:11 - 6:15probably what's happened is the change in lifestyle - food also
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6:15 - 6:20would have been packaged in banana leaves - a change of lifestyle so that
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6:20 - 6:23now there's a lot more things available
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6:23 - 6:27on the market. In the past, I don't think, offerings
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6:27 - 6:31for instance as an example, would have been so widely
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6:31 - 6:35sold as they are nowadays. But so many people are working,
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6:35 - 6:39directly or indirectly, in the tourist industry,
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6:39 - 6:43so that, you know, increasingly people are having to
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6:43 - 6:46buy things which in the past they wouldn't have had to buy. / There really
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6:46 - 6:51wasn't the culture of obsolescence that exists today.
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6:51 - 6:55Traditionally in Indonesia, and also Bali of course,
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6:55 - 6:59most people don't want to pay for waste disposal. They never had
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6:59 - 7:02it. What they did with their waste was just throw it in the back, or burn it,
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7:02 - 7:07or throw it in the river, and those habits spill over into businesses.
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7:07 - 7:10People have a restaurant, or they have their hotel, and
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7:10 - 7:14they take the same approach. They're just like "get it away, get it away", and
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7:14 - 7:19they've never thought about having to pay for this. It's always, you can just throw it on the open lot
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7:19 - 7:22or throw it in the river, and it's taken care of. And it's further complicated now
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7:22 - 7:26in that you have a lot of large
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7:26 - 7:30hotels that produce a huge amount of waste, and there's actually a lot of valuable stuff in that waste.
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7:30 - 7:35And you have an informal scavenging sector that approach the
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7:35 - 7:38hotels and businesses and say, "We will provide waste services for you
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7:38 - 7:42for free, and we'll buy the waste."
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7:42 - 7:46And what they're really interested in, they're actually buying the waste, they're buying access to the recyclables.
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7:46 - 7:51So they're taking the stuff of value, but the stuff that has not value, guess where it goes:
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7:51 - 7:55in the river, on the side of the road, wherever. You really get what you pay for
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7:55 - 7:59and if you're selling you're waste or paying very little, you're going to have a dirty island.
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7:59 - 8:03And for the tourism sector, obviously it's in their interest not to have a dirty island.
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8:03 - 8:07So they have to make that leap and start realizing that if they want to have this thing
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8:07 - 8:10taken care of, the stuff that doesn't have value, you're going to have to pay for it.
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8:10 - 8:15Also another problem that we have in Bali is that plastic waste is often burned.
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8:15 - 8:18and this can create all sorts of problems. Respiratory
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8:18 - 8:22illnesses are the number one reported illness
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8:22 - 8:25in Bali. And if you're breathing in
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8:25 - 8:30plastic waste that's being burned, particularly
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8:30 - 8:34at the speed that it's being burned, because it's not
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8:34 - 8:38a high heat burning, which is less toxic, but it's
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8:38 - 8:42usually a smoldering slow burning heap, so
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8:42 - 8:46this can create all sorts of problems for human health and air quality.
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8:46 - 8:51I mean think of all these things we have that
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8:51 - 8:54are really pointless. A plastic bag, you use
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8:54 - 8:57for 15 minutes, and then it's around
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8:57 - 9:01for your grand kids and their grand kids.
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9:01 - 9:02It's just insane.
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9:02 - 9:05And it's not just plastic bags, there are some things you
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9:05 - 9:09look around, from plastic straws to
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9:09 - 9:14plastic bottles... I mean the idea that a plastic bottle consumes
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9:14 - 9:17a typical 600ml plastic bottle
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9:17 - 9:21needs a quarter of it in oil
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9:21 - 9:25to produce that bottle is just mind-boggling. When you're looking at that plastic bottle
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9:25 - 9:29you're not buying water; you're buying crude oil.
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9:29 - 9:33And then, in Bali, people don't realize how many bottles
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9:33 - 9:37there are. Just water bottles, there are over 3 million
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9:37 - 9:41bottle a day, and that doesn't include all the other kinds of beverages,
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9:41 - 9:45from your soda to your energy
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9:45 - 9:50drinks and things like that. And even if you were able to recycle
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9:50 - 9:5490% of those, you would still have
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9:54 - 9:57300,000 of them being thrown in the
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9:57 - 10:02environment every day. It's not acceptable. It's nonsense.
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10:02 - 10:05In Bali we produce 20,000
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10:05 - 10:09cubic metres of waste everyday. And if we say that 15% of that is
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10:09 - 10:12plastic, then that means we're producing
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10:12 - 10:163,000 cubic metres of plastic waste everyday.
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10:16 - 10:20I think that it's an incredibly valuable resource; it's mined,
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10:20 - 10:24oil is drilled from the ground and it creates this
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10:24 - 10:28product which is incredibly useful, so it should be rightly
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10:28 - 10:32respected as a resource, and used and used and reused
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10:32 - 10:36and reused again and again and again. Our argument
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10:36 - 10:40as a campaign is not with plastic; it's about our consumption,
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10:40 - 10:43and our habits around this disposable
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10:43 - 10:47culture that we've created. / I mean people come to Bali
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10:47 - 10:52and they've looked at the brochure; they've heard about it or read about it,
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10:52 - 10:55and seen stuff, and they have this image of what Bali is,
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10:55 - 10:59and there have been a few times where they've been
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10:59 - 11:03quite shocked at what happens, what actually is the situation. There
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11:03 - 11:07was a story, where I was asked to help with this hotel, they had had a
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11:07 - 11:11problem with garbage that right in front of their hotel entrance, literally,
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11:11 - 11:15there was a huge garbage dump, and it would burn almost every
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11:15 - 11:19day, and the smoke would go right through the hotel's lobby,
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11:19 - 11:23and through their restaurant and through to the beach, and it wasn't good for business,
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11:23 - 11:27as you might suspect. So they had tried every, they had called
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11:27 - 11:30every government office, I think even calling up to the Governor to help deal with this problem,
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11:30 - 11:33and nothing every happened. And so out of desperation they asked for help, and
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11:33 - 11:38I went down there and did a quick little survey,
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11:38 - 11:43you know, I was working for an NGO back then and they were willing to pay us to do it,
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11:43 - 11:47and at the time we thought quite a bit. If we knew how much money they were losing
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11:47 - 11:50we would have asked for more. But we did a survey of what was going on
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11:50 - 11:55and what we discovered was that most of the garbage burning in front of the hotel was their own,
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11:55 - 11:58that they had created their own problem. And why that happened was they were
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11:58 - 12:02selling their garbage to the local trash guy
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12:02 - 12:06and he was just taking what he wanted out of it and dumping everything in the traditional dump.
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12:06 - 12:09In fact, the dump had been there before the hotel.
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12:09 - 12:14So no one in the hotel had bothered to go across the street and look, and they would have seen their logo.
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12:14 - 12:18They would have seen it. And their reaction at first was, "well, let's fire
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12:18 - 12:22this guy and get rid of him," and I said, no, that's not going to work. If you replace him
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12:22 - 12:25it's going to be the same thing. The problem is not this guy dumping here, the problem
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12:25 - 12:29is you're asking him to pay for this garbage.
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12:29 - 12:34You should be paying him to take care of it properly, to dump it at
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12:34 - 12:38the landfill; a novel idea! I mean they really
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12:38 - 12:41were kind of accustomed to selling their garbage. It's completely crazy!
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12:41 - 12:45And they realized that they needed to change,
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12:45 - 12:50and it was easy to make the decision, because they were losing tens of thousands
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12:50 - 12:53of dollars a day. I mean, they were losing a lot of money. So to switch over and pay
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12:53 - 12:58a local guy a few hundred dollars a month to take care of it made a
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12:58 - 13:01lot of sense. / So every year, Bali has I think it's
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13:01 - 13:064 million domestic tourists and 3 million international tourists.
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13:06 - 13:09Now on top of that, we have a population that's just about reached
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13:09 - 13:144 million. So you think of that in terms of
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13:14 - 13:19the resources that every tourist
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13:19 - 13:21uses, and it's estimated that a tourist will consume 4 times the amount
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13:21 - 13:25of an average local person. What's happening with all
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13:25 - 13:29the rubbish they're producing? / There might be a dump nearby that's
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13:29 - 13:33by a river that's going out, and you're wondering why there's all this garbage in the ocean.
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13:33 - 13:37It might be coming from the places where you're staying,
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13:37 - 13:41or eating at. / One of the main
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13:41 - 13:44proponents against the illegal dumping was always saying,
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13:44 - 13:50"they make the money in Ubud, and we get the trash."
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13:50 - 13:57You know, maybe it's the location of it,
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13:57 - 13:58and also the agreement and acceptance of
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13:58 - 14:01the past decision makers to allow the trash
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14:01 - 14:05to come in. So they said, "oh great, we have a place, and there's an agreement,
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14:05 - 14:09and look, our trash is actually helping you to build a road,
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14:09 - 14:13that's going to connect it to land that
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14:13 - 14:16was otherwise inaccessible." So, I truly
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14:16 - 14:20believe that they felt there was a mutual benefit
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14:20 - 14:25exchange happening. It only was until
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14:25 - 14:29recently that they realized maybe this deal isn't so good,
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14:29 - 14:32and put a stop to it, and
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14:32 - 14:36the kepala desa, the head of the village, was actually able to implement that,
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14:36 - 14:40and endorse it and make it happen.
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14:40 - 14:44I think the Bali government has already made a road map: "Bali go Clean and Green".
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14:44 - 14:49It's like the big agenda in our government;
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14:49 - 14:53how to make Bali more sustainable, more eco,
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14:53 - 14:57more green, you know. Actually if we see
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14:57 - 15:00the road map, it's already good. I mean, the short term
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15:00 - 15:05planning, the medium term planning, the long term planning, it's already good.
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15:05 - 15:07And then, the policy of this
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15:07 - 15:12planning, is based on the 3 big main
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15:12 - 15:16agenda. First, education, formal or informal.
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15:16 - 15:21And the second: involve the private sector. I mean,
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15:21 - 15:24like companies, or the corporations that make
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15:24 - 15:28business in Bali, because tourism is the most
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15:28 - 15:32main business, but also the garbage or the
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15:32 - 15:35pollution is also made by this big industry.
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15:35 - 15:39And the third is
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15:39 - 15:43involve the peoples' action. I mean,
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15:43 - 15:48the community action. / There's actually a lot of people out there that are
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15:48 - 15:51concerned about the problem, but they don't know what to do, and they're completely,
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15:51 - 15:55you know, frustrated with it. And when you start setting these examples
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15:55 - 15:59they see that and then they come to you, and that's what's happening.
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15:59 - 16:03I believe there are lots of grassroots movements
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16:03 - 16:07in Bali, made by NGOs
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16:07 - 16:11or made by just social local
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16:11 - 16:17organizations, already making a good movement about
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16:17 - 16:20and making awareness to the locals
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16:20 - 16:24on how to separate the garbage
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16:24 - 16:27and how to make compost from the organic
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16:27 - 16:31garbage, but right now, from
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16:31 - 16:35my perspective, it's just a small movement.
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16:35 - 16:38So, I think to make it effective,
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16:38 - 16:43we should involve, or put social pressure on,
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16:43 - 16:47the government to make a local law, like 'perdau' or 'awig awig'
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16:47 - 16:52to make it more significant, to make a more significant change,
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16:52 - 16:54I mean, to make it more effective and efficient.
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16:54 - 16:59We consulted with the community leaders, and we heard that they have
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16:59 - 17:03big plans for their village to try and revitalize their economy here
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17:03 - 17:07with a cultural and ecotourism
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17:07 - 17:12program that just got launched about a year and a half ago.
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17:12 - 17:15In addition to helping them to kind of
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17:15 - 17:19formulate their tourism program, because they asked us for some
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17:19 - 17:23advice from a foreigner perspective,
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17:23 - 17:27we also gave advice on the waste management stuff, which
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17:27 - 17:31the community had been working on, some members of the community had been working on
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17:31 - 17:35for 15 years, because this illegal dump site
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17:35 - 17:38started about 15 years ago, and there are people in the community that have
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17:38 - 17:44protested against it since then.
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17:44 - 17:47Coincidentally, about
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17:47 - 17:51a year after we started the project in this community, the illegal dump
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17:51 - 17:55site had been shut down after 15 years of operating,
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17:55 - 17:59which, for us, felt like a monumental success for the village
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17:59 - 18:02to achieve that. It was really quite a big deal.
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18:02 - 18:07Still, it's not perfect right now, because
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18:07 - 18:11you know, the waste still has to be handled, but the decision to stop
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18:11 - 18:15the incoming 14 trucks a day of waste
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18:15 - 18:19from outside of this village that's not even theirs was a huge
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18:19 - 18:22decision that we felt really proud of
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18:22 - 18:26the people for being able to achieve that.
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18:26 - 18:29I definitely think it could be replicated in other villages.
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18:29 - 18:35Of course the joint shared vision and desire has to be there.
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18:35 - 18:38Many times, people kind of throw their hands up in the air, and are like "what am I going to do?" but there are actually a lot of
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18:38 - 18:42things you can do, and you have to start, maybe small in the beginning,
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18:42 - 18:45but you have to start. / If you have a small organic farm
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18:45 - 18:51in your house, even a small one,
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18:51 - 18:55it will effectively decrease
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18:55 - 18:58the garbage problem. For example,
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18:58 - 19:00like my kitchen waste:
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19:00 - 19:06more or less, like 70% is
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19:06 - 19:10organic, so I have a compost box, I just put this
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19:10 - 19:1570% of organic [waste] into the compost, because this will go
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19:15 - 19:18back again to nature, you know, back again to my
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19:18 - 19:24vegetable plot, and then the rest, 30%,
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19:24 - 19:26most of this 30% not organic
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19:26 - 19:30garbage is recyclable,
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19:30 - 19:34and has an economic value, too, because
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19:34 - 19:38in Bali we have 'pemulung'. Pemulung are like the garbage
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19:38 - 19:42collectors. Sometimes they buy it from you,
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19:42 - 19:46from every house. They will travel around [saying], "berang bekas,
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19:46 - 19:50berang bekas," meaning like "garbage, garbage," and then
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19:50 - 19:54they will buy it. They have a really good value for plastic, for bottles, like
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19:54 - 19:56beer bottles, for paper, for
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19:56 - 20:02aluminium, metal, steel, copper, they have
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20:02 - 20:05a really really good price to buy it from the people,
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20:05 - 20:10and most of this 30% not organic
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20:10 - 20:13garbage from my kitchen is recyclable, so you can
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20:13 - 20:17sell it, or just give it, to this garbage collector,
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20:17 - 20:22and this 25% will be going
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20:22 - 20:25to recycle, to be something good, new goods, and
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20:25 - 20:30so only 5% is your actual
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20:30 - 20:34garbage, what we call really garbage. This is
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20:34 - 20:37like the soft plastic material, like biscuits,
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20:37 - 20:42'kemasan' biscuit packaging, or plastic bags.
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20:42 - 20:45So, from my opinion, if there's only
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20:45 - 20:505% garbage going to the dumping place because we cannot do anything with it
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20:50 - 20:54I think the dumping place would not
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20:54 - 20:57be so full so quickly. / So I think the most practical way now
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20:57 - 21:01that we in Bali don't have a waste management facility
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21:01 - 21:05yet, a proper one, is to do waste prevention: each household
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21:05 - 21:08can do that, like bringing your own bag, bringing your own
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21:08 - 21:12container, bringing your own bottle, so you don't
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21:12 - 21:16add more waste. I know it looks just small.
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21:16 - 21:20"But it's only one plastic bag!" But
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21:20 - 21:25well, I worked with a group of students once, and we asked them
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21:25 - 21:29to observe how many plastic bags entered the household
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21:29 - 21:32each [day], and one student came
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21:32 - 21:35and said, "5 plastic bags". Ok, let's calculate.
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21:35 - 21:39In a month, that will be 150.
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21:39 - 21:44And how many people, how many families, more or less
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21:44 - 21:47in your banjar (village)? She said, "55". That means, in a year,
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21:47 - 21:52there will be more than like 10,000 plastic bags. That's a lot.
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21:52 - 21:56This happened to me, because when we're talking about plastic, for example,
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21:56 - 22:00the big problem in Bali, I tried to live a one
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22:00 - 22:04month "plastic diet".
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22:04 - 22:06We call it "plastic diet". Just to get
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22:06 - 22:11the data about how difficult it would be to live without,
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22:11 - 22:18to minimize as much as possible using plastic.
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22:18 - 22:20It can be done.
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22:20 - 22:24We go shopping, we just bring our own bags,
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22:24 - 22:30our own carrier, so it's not so difficult.
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22:30 - 22:34For most of our customers, we provide them with a monthly recycling report.
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22:34 - 22:37So, they get a sheet of paper that says, ok these are the things that
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22:37 - 22:39you were able to recycle: this much aluminum, this much plastic bottles, this much
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22:39 - 22:46of this other plastic, paper, blah, blah, blah. And then we go down the list of other
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22:46 - 22:50things that were man made but weren't recyclable.
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22:50 - 22:53You know, styrofoam, or some hazardous stuff. And then we go down into
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22:53 - 22:57the organics and explain to them the food waste we collected and all that, so they have a record
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22:57 - 23:01of what actually they are producing. And at first,
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23:01 - 23:05you know, they're like, "oh, that's cute, that's nice, whatever," but after a while, when they look
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23:05 - 23:09back and they see, over 6 months or a year, they realize
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23:09 - 23:12actually how much waste they produce. And in some cases, it's quite
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23:12 - 23:15shocking. So it's kind of a wake-up call, and it makes them realize that
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23:15 - 23:20yes, they are polluters; they have to think about their impacts.
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23:20 - 23:23I think tourists have an enormous responsibility for
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23:23 - 23:28the impacts that they create on any country that they visit.
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23:28 - 23:31They contribute a huge amount to the amount of waste that needs
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23:31 - 23:35to be dealt with, so, you know,
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23:35 - 23:41they can make a positive impact by perhaps the hotels that they
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23:41 - 23:44choose to stay at, making sure, asking, "ok, what's your
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23:44 - 23:47environmental policy? What do you do with your waste? I want to make sure
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23:47 - 23:52that the waste that I'm creating at this hotel, or what the hotel is creating
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23:52 - 23:55is ending up at the right place, not going and polluting the rivers
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23:55 - 23:59and going into the ocean and actually degrading the whole
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23:59 - 24:03tourist experience." The whole point of going to a place
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24:03 - 24:07for a holiday, a nice holiday, is to relax, maybe enjoy the sea, but if there's
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24:07 - 24:11a bunch of trash in it, then obviously it's not really
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24:11 - 24:15what you came here for. So you can ask your hotel what they do with their stuff.
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24:15 - 24:19You can, before coming here, make a pledge
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24:19 - 24:23to support a local organization that's maybe working to support
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24:23 - 24:26the environment, to keep the place that you're coming to visit beautiful and
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24:26 - 24:30functioning, and you can donate to those organization, those
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24:30 - 24:34non-profits, and support projects like that.
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24:34 - 24:39And, on a larger scale,
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24:39 - 24:43I would like to see the places,
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24:43 - 24:46the tourist destinations, perhaps saying that
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24:46 - 24:501% of money that you spend on hotel
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24:50 - 24:54or food or airline tickets goes to
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24:54 - 24:59supporting an environmental fund, or a green fund. There are places
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24:59 - 25:02that have done that effectively, like Gili Trawangan, off the
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25:02 - 25:05coast of Lombok, has the Gili Ecotrust, so
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25:05 - 25:10you know, just a small amount, I think it's a dollar per day per tourist goes to
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25:10 - 25:14that fund, and that helps to do the waste management
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25:14 - 25:18and addresses different environmental issues. / Everyone wants
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25:18 - 25:22to be green, and basically the first phase of that is you have some pioneers
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25:22 - 25:26that are being green, and then everyone jumps on the bandwagon and says they're green, and
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25:26 - 25:29more often than not, unfortunately a lot of people are just saying they're green.
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25:29 - 25:34They might have good intentions, others might not, but it's just a marketing element, and they say "We're green!"
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25:34 - 25:39or "We recycle, we do that," but as people,
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25:39 - 25:41as customers and people understand that it's not enough just to say
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25:41 - 25:45that, they have to prove it, they have to explain what they do. And even
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25:45 - 25:49you know, just asking questions and that, it adds up,
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25:49 - 25:53it helps. / At the top of any waste management
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25:53 - 25:58plan should always be prevetion
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25:58 - 26:01first, then reduction, and then you start looking at, ok,
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26:01 - 26:05well the waste is already there, what can we do with it? Can we reuse it? Ok, if we can't
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26:05 - 26:09reuse it, can we recycle it? But it's got to be in that
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26:09 - 26:13pyramid of priorities. / So what the coalition is doing right now
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26:13 - 26:17is to encourage business to do waste prevention, we
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26:17 - 26:21call it Plastic Detox Bali. Our community, right
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26:21 - 26:25now, people right now, are addicted to plastic. They
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26:25 - 26:30tend to freak out, like "WHAT? No plastic allowed??"
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26:30 - 26:34We have to keep reminding, we're not anti-plastic;
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26:34 - 26:37we need plastic. But you need to learn how to use it wisely.
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26:37 - 26:41So, to help them
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26:41 - 26:43ease this addiction,
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26:43 - 26:48I guess, Plastic Detox Bali.
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26:48 - 26:52There's a series of actions that business can
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26:52 - 26:57take. Like first, we ask them not to provide plastic bags
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26:57 - 27:02for free. / What I think should be done on Bali,
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27:02 - 27:05and perhaps in the rest of Indonesia, but certainly in Bali, is
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27:05 - 27:09first introduce a bag tax. Make people pay
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27:09 - 27:14for it. Pay for the plastic bag. Pay for the privilege.
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27:14 - 27:20Pay for the mounting external costs, because
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27:20 - 27:22then hopefully people will realize this is not free. People think it's free now
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27:22 - 27:25and they think it's modern. They think free, modernity, nice, ya? "Asik, dong?"
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27:25 - 27:29But it's not. Because what about the cost of
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27:29 - 27:33cleaning it up over the long term. What about the health costs incurred by people who inhale
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27:33 - 27:37the dioxins created by burning it. What about the people who eat it
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27:37 - 27:41in their fish? What are the public health costs?
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27:41 - 27:45You know, all these costs. I mean, we're talking millions and millions and millions
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27:45 - 27:49of dollars. So you want to make waste management, or you want to do
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27:49 - 27:54waste reduction? Which one is more cost efficient, cost effective?
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27:54 - 27:57For a government that's struggling, that can't even provide water to the residents in
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27:57 - 28:01Denpasar, there are so many other crises that are impending on this
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28:01 - 28:06island, you know, plastic should be the easiest thing. Just put a bag tax, and then
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28:06 - 28:09when people already realize, there's already public support, "hey,
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28:09 - 28:13bags are expensive," then you do a bag ban. Ban it.
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28:13 - 28:17Ban the single use plastic bag. Ireland? 92% reduction in
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28:17 - 28:212 weeks!!! They just banned it outright, and it's possible
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28:21 - 28:25in a place like Bali: it's an island. You could just ban the bag.
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28:25 - 28:29And people would just have to learn to deal with it. You learn.
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28:29 - 28:33The first or second time you go to the store and you don't have a bag, and you're either
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28:33 - 28:37forced to buy a bag or you've got to go home and get one, you won't forget again.
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28:37 - 28:41You know, instant behavior shift. Instant.
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28:41 - 28:44And people will grumble, and [complain], but grow up!
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28:44 - 28:48We have to be adults about the environment we live in. / Students are the
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28:48 - 28:53next leaders to come in the very near future, so
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28:53 - 28:56they need to be able to have access to
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28:56 - 29:00the kind of information and education to be made aware.
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29:00 - 29:05And often times, not just in Indonesia, but in many
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29:05 - 29:09countries, the school curriculum is outdated. It's not relevant to
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29:09 - 29:12the current issues that we're facing in modern times, so
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29:12 - 29:17to be able to infuse the perhaps outdated
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29:17 - 29:19or "has-room-to-grow" curriculum,
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29:19 - 29:24we feel that would be really effective, and get the kids excited.
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29:24 - 29:28We started to select schools in different areas, many of them were in
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29:28 - 29:33a little bit more remote areas, where they didn't really have any
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29:33 - 29:36collection service, so typically the school would be burning
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29:36 - 29:40the waste, or throwing it in the river at the back. We had very good
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29:40 - 29:44discussions in a high school, in which, without
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29:44 - 29:48wanting to say what was the solution, we were asking,
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29:48 - 29:51"What do you think should be done, what can you do
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29:51 - 29:57to reduce waste in your daily situation?"
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29:57 - 30:00And without having to say anything, because we had refreshments
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30:00 - 30:04around that were served by the school, students went straight away,
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30:04 - 30:08"This can take away, this we can reintroduce the banana leaf,
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30:08 - 30:11don't use that and that."
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30:11 - 30:15So, I think actually the high schools
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30:15 - 30:20should be a pretty good target. / A lot of programs, they don't need a lot of
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30:20 - 30:24money, but they need some. And if you could help
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30:24 - 30:28in the fundraising efforts for getting these programs off the ground
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30:28 - 30:33or sustaining them, it would be a huge, huge help.
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30:33 - 30:36When you think about it on that global scale,
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30:36 - 30:40what will future communities do?
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30:40 - 30:44The solution for me, is back again
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30:44 - 30:48to the government, because
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30:48 - 30:52the people, most of the people here, already agree about
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30:52 - 31:00the garbage separation or the recycle, all the
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31:00 - 31:04slogans, like "Reduce, reuse, recycle"
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31:04 - 31:07or "Bali go clean and green".
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31:07 - 31:13Everyone already agrees on those slogans. But what we're talking about now
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31:13 - 31:16is after the slogan, or after the
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31:16 - 31:19the idea, something that you wrote, the words
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31:19 - 31:23you have to do the action right now, right?
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31:23 - 31:27So what we're waiting for now, we as the grassroots movement, or
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31:27 - 31:32the people still doing what we believe it, what we're waiting for
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31:32 - 31:35is the government law to support this action.
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31:35 - 31:39To institute that change on such a massive
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31:39 - 31:44scale, wow, I mean, the government
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31:44 - 31:47needs to intervene, and it needs to intervene from the top
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31:47 - 31:50all the way down to the village.
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31:50 - 31:55Every level, you know, and the way, with regional autonomy in Indonesia,
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31:55 - 31:58ya, the Governor can say it should be like this, but then the Bupatis
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31:58 - 32:02need to follow suit. They need to care; they need to really care.
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32:02 - 32:06I think now the government still doesn't have any serious concern about the garbage
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32:06 - 32:10but I do believe, especially the Balinese
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32:10 - 32:14local government, because government in Bali is quite
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32:14 - 32:19unique, we have a formal government and an informal government, and they are both equally strong,
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32:19 - 32:2250-50. So if both these governments
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32:22 - 32:26had a really serious concern about the garbage or waste
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32:26 - 32:30issue, it would be socialized
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32:30 - 32:33effectively in the public. We, people here,
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32:33 - 32:38would support 100%. So make it real.
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33:33 - 33:38"Refuse plastic bags, refuse plastic bags,
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33:38 - 33:40plastic, plastic, plastic,
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33:40 - 33:45refuse plastic bags. Bali is a beautiful island,
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33:45 - 33:48plastic bags are giving it a scaly skin,
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33:48 - 33:52Let's play music, and support a beautiful Bali without plastic."
- Title:
- Greening the Island of the Gods
- Description:
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A short documentary film dumpster diving into Bali's garbage crisis and its grassroots solutions. For more info, visit: http://www.theparadigmshiftproject.org/greening_the_island_of_the_gods.html
- Video Language:
- English
- Duration:
- 33:54
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