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How flags unite (and divide) us

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    In 1989,
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    an artist by the name of Dread Scott,
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    who has also graced the TED stage,
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    created a piece of art in Chicago
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    where he simply placed
    an American flag on the ground
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    and then invited you the viewer
    to go and stand on that flag
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    and record how it felt in a journal.
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    And to me, one of the most powerful things
    written in that journal in essence says,
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    why are we so OK
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    with homeless people,
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    with human beings laying on the ground,
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    but not flags?
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    And to some of you,
    this piece of art is quite disturbing,
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    and that's kind of the point of this talk,
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    not to upset you or to make you mad
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    but to prove to you that flags
    have an incredible power,
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    and that even if you think
    you don't care about flags, you do.
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    You know you do.
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    All right.
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    By the end of it,
    I hope that you're inspired
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    to go out and harness this power of flags
    and fight for a better world,
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    but before we get there,
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    we're going to start
    on the opposite end of the spectrum,
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    and before I show you the next stuff,
    I need to say that anything I show here
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    is not an endorsement,
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    it's usually quite the opposite,
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    but more than anything,
    what I want to do is create a space here
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    where we can look
    at these flags, these designs,
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    and examine how they make us feel.
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    We're going to talk about our emotions.
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    Is that OK with everybody?
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    OK.
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    You ready for your first flag?
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    Cool, we'll start with an easy one.
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    That was a joke.
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    So, some of you may be a little bit uneasy
    sitting in a room with this.
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    I'm certainly feeling uneasy
    standing in front of it.
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    Some of you may be feeling
    a little bit of pride.
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    And that's understandable. This is Texas.
    This is not a rare sight, is it.
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    But let's start with the facts.
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    So this is not the Confederate flag. OK?
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    This is the battle flag
    of the Army of Northern Virginia
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    led by General Robert E. Lee,
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    so next time someone tells you
    that this is their heritage,
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    unless their family fought
    for that very specific militia,
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    they're wrong. All right?
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    And you have a flag expert's
    permission to tell them so.
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    This flag rose into prominence
    during the mid-1950s and '60s
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    as a response to the growing
    Civil Rights Movement.
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    And then, of course, today
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    it has come to represent
    the Confederacy to most of us.
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    But I shouldn't have to remind you
    what the Confederacy is.
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    It was a rogue nation
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    that rose up against the United States,
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    waged war on the US,
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    and at one point in time
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    this was one of the most
    un-American things you could have.
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    But yet, this flag is protected
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    by the same laws that protect
    the United States flag
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    in the states of Florida, Georgia,
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    South Carolina, Mississippi and Louisiana.
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    But let's pick on Georgia
    for a second, shall we?
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    So in 1956,
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    a few years after desegregation
    was mandated in public schools,
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    Georgia changed their state flag to this.
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    I think everyone watching can agree
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    that this was not meant to be a flag
    that every Georgian was proud to fly
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    outside of their home, was it.
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    Just like all of the Confederate statues
    erected in the mid-1950s and '60s,
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    this was meant to be a symbol
    of who was in charge
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    and who was not.
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    This remained the flag of Georgia
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    until the year 2001,
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    and in that year they changed their flag
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    to this.
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    Now, as a flag expert, I can tell you
    this is officially ugly.
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    OK? It's OK to laugh at this flag.
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    It's ugly, and because it's so ugly,
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    that's one of the reasons
    they changed it just two years later.
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    They had a referendum
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    where they got to choose
    between that thing
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    and then what is now
    the current flag of Georgia.
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    Now some of you might be wondering,
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    wait a second, Michael,
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    if that before wasn't
    the Confederate flag,
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    what was the Confederate flag?
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    Georgia flies the first flag
    of the Confederate States of America
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    to this day.
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    They just slapped their state seal on it.
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    Well let's go back
    to our emotions for a second.
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    That didn't punch you in the gut
    as much as the other one did, did it.
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    Right?
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    And that's why I love flags.
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    They are the simplest pieces of design,
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    usually just two or three colors,
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    just some bars or stripes,
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    but yet they can invoke
    the deepest emotions within us.
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    They'll make us swell with pride
    or burn with hatred.
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    We will die for a flag
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    or even kill for one.
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    One of my favorite designers,
    his name is Wally Olins,
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    they call him the father
    of nation branding,
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    and he's quotes as saying
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    that everyone wants to belong,
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    and then they want to display
    symbols of belonging.
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    And it's crazy that these pieces of cloth
    that are just sewn together or dyed
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    come to be such a sacred item,
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    and that's because they become
    parts of our identity.
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    They are powerful tools to unify
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    but equally powerful tools to divide.
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    You ready for the next flag?
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    Right.
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    Take a moment.
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    Really examine how you felt
    when this hit the screen.
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    I'm going to change
    the slide pretty quickly
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    so you don't take pictures of me
    in front of this one.
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    All right?
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    So Germany after World War I,
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    it was in a pretty bad state,
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    and a young Adolf Hitler had a lot of,
    let's call them ideas,
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    of how Germany got to where they'd gotten
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    and how to get them out.
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    He spent entire chapters
    in his book "Mein Kampf,"
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    which I don't recommend reading,
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    about how Germany lost World War I
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    partially because the British
    had better graphic design
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    and better propaganda.
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    So, as the Nazi Party rose,
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    Hitler created one of the thickest
    brand guides I've ever seen.
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    It's thicker than most
    company brand guides today,
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    and in it he details titles and uniforms
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    and lots and lots of flags.
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    Hitler knew the power of flags.
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    He says in "Mein Kampf,"
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    "The new flag... should prove
    effective as a large poster,"
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    because "in hundreds of thousands of cases
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    a really striking emblem
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    may be the first cause
    of awakening interest in a movement."
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    He was an artist, after all.
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    He knew the power
    of visual identity and uniforms
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    could reignite the German identity.
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    And to millions of Germans
    this was a welcome sign.
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    But of course this was
    a mark of death to others.
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    We don't often think of flags as weapons,
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    but like the Confederate battle flag,
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    the Germans used their flag
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    to make an outgroup feel unwelcome
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    and less than.
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    You see, when you create a flag,
    you immediately do two things.
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    You create an ingroup,
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    a group that's meant
    to be represented by the symbol,
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    but then inevitably
    you create an outgroup.
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    And usually that's subtle.
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    It's a byproduct.
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    It's usually not the intent.
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    But the Germans were very clear
    as to who was represented by the swastika
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    and who was not.
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    In 1935, Jewish people were banned
    from flying German flags.
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    And in this way,
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    the Germans, maybe more than
    any other time in history,
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    used the dual power of flags
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    to unite but also to divide.
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    Flags were used as identity weapons.
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    And now, in 2019, the Nazi flag
    is banned from being flown
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    by anyone in Germany,
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    and anyone in Austria, in Hungary,
    in Russia and in Ukraine.
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    Think about that.
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    It's a piece of cloth, but it's banned.
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    On its face, that sounds crazy,
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    but I don't think anyone
    in this room would disagree
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    that it's probably good.
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    Sounds a lot like a weapon.
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    As a vexillologist,
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    sometimes the most interesting
    thing about a flag
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    is not so much its design,
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    but it's those laws around the flag.
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    For instance,
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    in India, to create an Indian flag,
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    you must use a hand-spun
    cloth named Khadi.
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    If you make a flag out of anything else,
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    you could go to jail
    for up to three years.
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    It's crazy.
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    Here in Texas,
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    we've all heard
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    that the Texas flag is the only state flag
    that can fly at the same height
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    as the US, flag, right?
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    Because we were a nation
    before we were a state.
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    Who here has heard that?
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    Yeah.
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    Well, I'm here to tell you
    that is completely false. OK?
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    First of all, we were not the only state
    that was a nation before joining up,
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    and secondly, all state flags can fly
    at the same height as the US flag
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    according to the US flag code.
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    And I don't have to ask you
    how you feel about this one, right?
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    Most of us grew up pledging allegiance
    to this every morning,
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    knowing we should never
    let it touch the ground, etc.
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    We take our flag code very seriously
    here in the United States.
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    You remember, recently some NFL players
    kneeling during the national anthem.
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    It was a big controversy.
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    They were breaking the flag code.
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    It states during the national anthem,
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    stand at attention,
    hand at the heart, etc.
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    But what was fascinating to me
    as a vexillologist is that I didn't see
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    anyone getting upset
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    when something like this happens.
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    The flag code says the flag should never
    be carried flat or horizontally,
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    but always aloft and free.
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    So sometimes during
    the exact same national anthem,
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    this was being done and no one's upset.
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    Or this. This happens all the time.
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    The flag code is clear.
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    No part of the flag should ever be used
    as a costume or on an athletic uniform.
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    This is Texas A&M baseball,
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    not to get them in trouble,
    but this happens all the time,
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    especially in November.
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    I'm sure, I can almost guarantee
    when you leave here tonight,
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    you will see on the back
    of someone's car or truck
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    a black and white American flag
    with a blue stripe,
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    a thin blue line, right?
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    Blue Lives Matter.
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    That breaks the flag code
    in multiple ways,
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    but all of these things are done
    with the best intent.
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    No one's here to argue that.
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    But of course they break
    a section of the flag code
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    titled "Respect for the Flag,"
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    so by putting this on your uniform,
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    you are legally disrespecting the flag.
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    And what I find interesting
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    is that those NFL players
    kneeling during the anthem
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    and the people who would put
    Blue Lives Matters stickers on their car
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    are both on the opposite end
    of a very big issue,
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    but they're both breaking
    the exact same law,
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    a law that is 100 percent unenforceable.
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    In fact, it was Dread Scott's
    piece of art in 1989
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    that led the Supreme Court to rule
    that the flag code is just a guideline.
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    You cannot be prosecuted
    for breaking the flag code.
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    You cannot be forced to be patriotic.
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    So why, then, have all of these
    little laws around how we use our flag
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    if you can't enforce them?
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    And that's because a nation
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    is a fragile collective idea.
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    It only exists in our minds.
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    See this? Thank you.
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    Sometimes a flag is the only
    tangible symbol of that idea.
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    Right? Our unity is sometimes
    only held together by literal threads.
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    And that's powerful.
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    The flag code is meant to preserve
    and protect that fragile idea,
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    while also protecting
    your right to break it.
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    And that's what's special
    about the United States, right?
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    And that's what's unique about our flag.
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    Our flag is amazing.
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    It has changed more than
    any other flag in the world.
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    It's the flag code that says
    when a new state is created,
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    a star shall be added
    to the union of the flag,
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    and such addition shall take place
    on the fourth day of July.
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    Our flag is unique because
    it is meant to grow as we grow.
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    By design and by law,
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    it is meant to change with us.
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    It's a living symbol of our individuality,
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    our diversity in the stars,
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    and our unity.
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    We have a gift in the United States
    to have a flag that is inclusive.
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    If the Nazi flag was an identity weapon,
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    the United States flag, by design alone,
    stands in direct contrast.
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    And I have to say,
    as a vexillologist in 2019,
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    using this flag
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    as an identity weapon against anyone
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    disrespects it far more
    than letting it touch the ground
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    or any one of the other little laws
    that we break every day.
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    Right?
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    This flag is a symbol of our union.
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    We should never use this as a weapon
    against someone else.
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    I resonate so deeply with the person
    who wrote in Dread Scott's journal,
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    "We should never value the symbol
    over the thing that it symbolizes.
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    We should never value a piece of cloth
    over a human life."
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    And if you're ever going to use
    a piece of cloth as a weapon,
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    you should never use this one,
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    not when it has always
    had room for more stars.
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    Hopefully by now, you've felt
    the power of flags
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    and you can see what they can do.
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    So what if we harnessed that power
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    and we used it to fight
    for something greater?
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    This is the flag of Earth,
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    designed by Oskar Pernefeldt of Sweden.
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    Just imagine with me for a second,
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    what if we celebrated our humanity
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    as much if not more
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    than we celebrate our nationalities?
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    As we become a spacefaring civilization
    and we go off into the stars,
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    what do our nations mean anyway
    when you're standing
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    on the surface of Mars
    or any other planet?
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    And then of course, back here on Earth,
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    as our planet is facing a climate crisis,
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    as our climate could be unlivable in
    our children or grandchildren's lifetime,
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    I believe we need a strong symbol, a flag,
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    to unite us to fight,
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    not just as nations,
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    but as a species.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How flags unite (and divide) us
Speaker:
Michael Green
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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
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Duration:
15:18

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