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The surprisingly logical minds of babies

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    Mark Twain summed up
    what I take to be
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    one of the fundamental problems
    of cognitive science
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    with a single witticism.
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    He said, "There's something
    fascinating about science.
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    One gets such wholesale
    returns of conjecture
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    out of such a trifling
    investment in fact."
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    (Laughter)
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    Twain meant it as a joke,
    of course, but he's right:
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    There's something
    fascinating about science.
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    From a few bones, we infer
    the existence of dinosuars.
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    From spectral lines,
    the composition of nebulae.
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    From fruit flies,
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    the mechanisms of heredity,
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    and from reconstructed images
    of blood flowing through the brain,
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    or in my case, from the behavior
    of very young children,
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    we try to say something about
    the fundamental mechanisms
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    of human cognition.
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    In particular, in my lab in the Department
    of Brain and Cognitive Sciences at MIT,
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    I have spent the past decade
    trying to understand the mystery
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    of how children learn so much
    from so little so quickly.
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    Because, it turns out that
    the fascinating thing about science
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    is also a fascinating
    thing about children,
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    which, to put a gentler
    spin on Mark Twain,
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    is precisely their ability
    to draw rich, abstract inferences
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    rapidly and accurately
    from sparse, noisy data.
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    I'm going to give you
    just two examples today.
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    One is about a problem of generalization,
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    and the other is about a problem
    of causal reasoning.
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    And although I'm going to talk
    about work in my lab,
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    this work is inspired by
    and indebted to a field.
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    I'm grateful to mentors, colleagues,
    and collaborators around the world.
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    Let me start with the problem
    of generalization.
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    Generalizing from small samples of data
    is the bread and butter of science.
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    We poll a tiny fraction of the electorate
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    and we predict the outcome
    of national elections.
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    We see how a handful of patients
    responds to treatment in a clinical trial,
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    and we bring drugs to a national market.
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    But this only works if our sample
    is randomly drawn from the population.
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    If our sample is cherry-picked
    in some way --
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    say, we poll only urban voters,
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    or say, in our clinical trials
    for treatments for heart disease,
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    we include only men --
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    the results may not generalize
    to the broader population.
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    So scientists care whether evidence
    is randomly sampled or not,
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    but what does that have to do with babies?
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    Well, babies have to generalize
    from small samples of data all the time.
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    They see a few rubber ducks
    and learn that they float,
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    or a few balls and learn that they bounce.
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    And they develop expectations
    about ducks and balls
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    that they're going to extend
    to rubber ducks and balls
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    for the rest of their lives.
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    And the kinds of generalizations
    babies have to make about ducks and balls
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    they have to make about almost everything:
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    shoes and ships and ceiling wax
    and cabbages and kings.
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    So do babies care whether
    the tiny bit of evidence they see
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    is plausibly representative
    of a larger population?
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    Let's find out.
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    I'm going to show you two movies,
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    one from each of two conditions
    of an experiment,
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    and because you're going to see
    just two movies,
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    you're going to see just two babies,
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    and any two babies differ from each other
    in innumerable ways.
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    But these babies, of course,
    here stand in for groups of babies,
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    and the differences you're going to see
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    represent average group differences
    in babies' behavior across conditions.
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    In each movie, you're going to see
    a baby doing maybe
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    just exactly what you might
    expect a baby to do,
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    and we can hardly make babies
    more magical than they already are.
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    But to my mind the magical thing,
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    and what I want you to pay attention to,
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    is the contrast between
    these two conditions,
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    because the only thing
    that differs between these two movies
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    is the statistical evidence
    the babies are going to observe.
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    We're going to show babies
    a box of blue and yellow balls,
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    and my then-graduate student,
    now colleague at Stanford, Hyowon Gweon,
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    is going to pull three blue balls
    in a row out of this box,
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    and when she pulls those balls out,
    she's going to squeeze them,
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    and the balls are going to squeak.
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    And if you're a baby,
    that's like a TED Talk.
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    It doesn't get better than that.
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    (Laughter)
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    But the important point is it's really
    easy to pull three blue balls in a row
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    out of a box of mostly blue balls.
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    You could do that with your eyes closed.
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    It's plausibly a random sample
    from this population.
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    And if you can reach into a box at random
    and pull out things that squeak,
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    then maybe everything in the box squeaks.
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    So maybe babies should expect
    those yellow balls to squeak as well.
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    Now, those yellow balls
    have funny sticks on the end,
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    so babies could do other things
    with them if they wanted to.
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    They could pound them or whack them.
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    But let's see what the baby does.
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    (Video) Hyowon Gweon: See this?
    (Ball squeaks)
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    Did you see that?
    (Ball squeaks)
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    Cool.
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    See this one?
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    (Ball squeaks)
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    Wow.
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    Laura Schulz: Told you. (Laughs)
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    (Video) HG: See this one?
    (Ball squeaks)
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    Hey Clara, this one's for you.
    You can go ahead and play.
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    (Laughter)
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    LS: I don't even have to talk, right?
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    All right, it's nice that babies
    will generalize properties
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    of blue balls to yellow balls,
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    and it's impressive that babies
    can learn from imitating us,
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    but we've known those things about babies
    for a very long time.
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    The really interesting question
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    is what happens when we show babies
    exactly the same thing,
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    and we can ensure it's exactly the same
    because we have a secret compartment
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    and we actually pull the balls from there,
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    but this time, all we change
    is the apparent population
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    from which that evidence was drawn.
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    This time, we're going to show babies
    three blue balls
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    pulled out of a box
    of mostly yellow balls,
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    and guess what?
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    You [probably won't] randomly draw
    three blue balls in a row
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    out of a box of mostly yellow balls.
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    That is not plausibly
    randomly sampled evidence.
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    That evidence suggests that maybe Hyowon
    was deliberately sampling the blue balls.
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    Maybe there's something special
    about the blue balls.
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    Maybe only the blue balls squeak.
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    Let's see what the baby does.
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    (Video) HG: See this?
    (Ball squeaks)
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    See this toy?
    (Ball squeaks)
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    Oh, that was cool. See?
    (Ball squeaks)
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    Now this one's for you to play.
    You can go ahead and play.
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    (Fussing)
    (Laughter)
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    LS: So you just saw
    two 15-month-old babies
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    do entirely different things
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    based only on the probability
    of the sample they observed.
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    Let me show you the experimental results.
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    On the vertical axis, you'll see
    the percentage of babies
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    who squeezed the ball in each condition,
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    and as you'll see, babies are much
    more likely to generalize the evidence
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    when it's plausibly representative
    of the population
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    than when the evidence
    is clearly cherry-picked.
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    And this leads to a fun prediction:
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    Suppose you pulled just one blue ball
    out of the mostly yellow box.
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    You [probably won't] pull three blue balls
    in a row at random out of a yellow box,
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    but you could randomly sample
    just one blue ball.
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    That's not an improbable sample.
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    And if you could reach into
    a box at random
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    and pull out something that squeaks,
    maybe everything in the box squeaks.
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    So even though babies are going to see
    much less evidence for squeaking,
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    and have many fewer actions to imitate
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    in this one ball condition than in
    the condition you just saw,
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    we predicted that babies themselves
    would squeeze more,
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    and that's exactly what we found.
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    So 15-month-old babies,
    in this respect, like scientists,
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    care whether evidence
    is randomly sampled or not,
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    and they use this to develop
    expectations about the world:
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    what squeaks and what doesn't,
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    what to explore and what to ignore.
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    Let me show you another example now,
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    this time about a problem
    of causal reasoning.
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    And it starts with a problem
    of confounded evidence
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    that all of us have,
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    which is that we are part of the world.
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    And this might not seem like a problem
    to you, but like most problems,
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    it's only a problem when things go wrong.
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    Take this baby, for instance.
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    Things are going wrong for him.
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    He would like to make
    this toy go, and he can't.
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    I'll show you a few-second clip.
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    And there's two possibilities, broadly:
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    Maybe he's doing something wrong,
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    or maybe there's something
    wrong with the toy.
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    So in this next experiment,
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    we're going to give babies
    just a tiny bit of statistical data
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    supporting one hypothesis over the other,
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    and we're going to see if babies
    can use that to make different decisions
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    about what to do.
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    Here's the setup.
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    Hyowon is going to try to make
    the toy go and succeed.
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    I am then going to try twice
    and fail both times,
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    and then Hyowon is going
    to try again and succeed,
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    and this roughly sums up my relationship
    to my graduate students
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    in technology across the board.
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    But the important point here is
    it provides a little bit of evidence
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    that the problem isn't with the toy,
    it's with the person.
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    Some people can make this toy go,
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    and some can't.
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    Now, when the baby gets the toy,
    he's going to have a choice.
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    His mom is right there,
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    so he can go ahead and hand off the toy
    and change the person,
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    but there's also going to be
    another toy at the end of that cloth,
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    and he can pull the cloth towards him
    and change the toy.
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    So let's see what the baby does.
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    (Video) HG: Two, three. Go!
    (Music)
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    LS: One, two, three, go!
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    Arthur, I'm going to try again.
    One, two, three, go!
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    YG: Arthur, let me try again, okay?
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    One, two, three, go!
    (Music)
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    Look at that. Remember these toys?
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    See these toys? Yeah, I'm going
    to put this one over here,
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    and I'm going to give this one to you.
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    You can go ahead and play.
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    LS: Okay, Laura, but of course,
    babies love their mommies.
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    Of course babies give toys
    to their mommies
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    when they can't make them work.
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    So again, the really important question
    is what happens when we change
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    the statistical data ever so slightly.
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    This time, babies are going to see the toy
    work and fail in exactly the same order,
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    but we're changing
    the distribution of evidence.
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    This time, Hyowon is going to succeed
    once and fail once, and so am I.
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    And this suggests it doesn't matter
    who tries this toy, the toy is broken.
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    It doesn't work all the time.
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    Again, the baby's going to have a choice.
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    Her mom is right next to her,
    so she can change the person,
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    and there's going to be another toy
    at the end of the cloth.
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    Let's watch what she does.
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    (Video) HG: Two, three, go!
    (Music)
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    Let me try one more time.
    One, two, three, go!
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    Hmm.
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    LS: Let me try, Clara.
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    One, two, three, go!
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    Hmm, let me try again.
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    One, two, three, go!
    (Music)
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    HG: I'm going
    to put this one over here,
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    and I'm going to give this one to you.
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    You can go ahead and play.
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    (Applause)
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    LS: Let me show you
    the experimental results.
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    On the vertical axis,
    you'll see the distribution
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    of children's choices in each condition,
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    and you'll see that the distribution
    of the choices children make
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    depends on the evidence they observe.
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    So in the second year of life,
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    babies can use a tiny bit
    of statistical data
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    to decide between two
    fundamentally different strategies
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    for acting in the world:
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    asking for help and exploring.
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    I've just shown you
    two laboratory experiments
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    out of literally hundreds in the field
    that make similar points,
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    because the really critical point
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    is that children's ability
    to make rich inferences from sparse data
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    underlies all the species-specific
    cultural learning that we do.
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    Children learn about new tools
    from just a few examples.
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    They learn new causal relationships
    from just a few examples.
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    They even learn new words,
    in this case in American Sign Language.
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    I want to close with just two points.
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    If you've been following my world,
    the field of brain and cognitive sciences,
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    for the past few years,
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    three big ideas will have come
    to your attention.
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    The first is that this is
    the era of the brain.
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    And indeed, there have been
    staggering discoveries in neuroscience:
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    localizing functionally specialized
    regions of cortex,
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    turning mouse brains transparent,
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    activating neurons with light.
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    A second big idea
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    is that this is the era of big data
    and machine learning,
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    and machine learning promises
    to revolutionize our understanding
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    of everything from social networks
    to epidemiology.
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    And maybe, as it tackles problems
    of scene understanding
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    and natural language processing,
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    to tell us something
    about human cognition.
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    And the final big idea you'll have heard
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    is that maybe it's a good idea we're going
    to know so much about brains
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    and have so much access to big data,
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    because left to our own devices,
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    humans are fallible, we take shortcuts,
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    we err, we make mistakes,
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    we're biased, and in innumerable ways,
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    we get the world wrong.
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    I think these are all important stories,
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    and they have a lot to tell us
    about what it means to be human,
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    but I want you to note that today
    I told you a very different story.
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    It's a story about minds and not brains,
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    and in particular, it's a story
    about the kinds of computations
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    that uniquely human minds can perform,
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    which involve rich, structured knowledge
    and the ability to learn
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    from small amounts of data,
    the evidence of just a few examples.
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    And fundamentally, it's a story
    about how starting as very small children
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    and continuing out all the way
    to the greatest accomplishments
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    of our culture,
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    we get the world right.
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    Folks, human minds do not only learn
    from small amounts of data.
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    Human minds think
    of altogether new ideas.
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    Human minds generate
    research and discovery,
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    and human minds generate
    art and literature and poetry and theater,
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    and human minds take care of other humans:
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    our old, our young, our sick.
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    We even heal them.
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    In the years to come, we're going
    to see technological innovations
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    beyond anything I can even envision,
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    but we are very unlikely
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    to see anything even approximating
    the computational power of a human child
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    in my lifetime or in yours.
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    If we invest in these most powerful
    learners and their development,
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    in babies and children
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    and mothers and fathers
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    and caregivers and teachers
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    the ways we invest in our other
    most powerful and elegant forms
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    of technology, engineering and design,
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    we will not just be dreaming
    of a better future,
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    we will be planning for one.
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    Thank you very much.
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    (Applause)
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    Chris Anderson: Laura, thank you.
    I do actually have a question for you.
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    First of all, the research is insane.
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    I mean, who would design
    an experiment like that? (Laughter)
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    I've seen that a couple of times,
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    and I still don't honestly believe
    that that can truly be happening,
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    but other people have done
    similar experiments; it checks out.
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    The babies really are that genius.
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    LS: You know, they look really impressive
    in our experiments,
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    but think about what they
    look like in real life, right?
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    It starts out as a baby.
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    Eighteen months later,
    it's talking to you,
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    and babies' first words aren't just
    things like balls and ducks,
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    they're things like "all gone,"
    which refer to disappearance,
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    or "uh-oh," which refer
    to unintentional actions.
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    It has to be that powerful.
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    It has to be much more powerful
    than anything I showed you.
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    They're figuring out the entire world.
  • 18:02 - 18:05
    A four-year-old can talk to you
    about almost anything.
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    (Applause)
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    CA: And if I understand you right,
    the other key point you're making is,
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    we've been through these years
    where there's all this talk
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    of how quirky and buggy our minds are,
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    that behavioral economics
    and the whole theories behind that
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    that we're not rational agents.
  • 18:20 - 18:24
    You're really saying that the bigger
    story is how extraordinary,
  • 18:24 - 18:29
    and there really is genius there
    that is underappreciated.
  • 18:29 - 18:31
    LS: One of my favorite
    quotes in psychology
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    comes from the social
    psychologist Solomon Asch,
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    and he said the fundamental task
    of psychology is to remove
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    the veil of self-evidence from things.
  • 18:39 - 18:43
    There are orders of magnitude
    more decisions you make every day
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    that get the world right.
  • 18:44 - 18:47
    You know about objects
    and their properties.
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    You know them when they're occluded.
    You know them in the dark.
  • 18:50 - 18:51
    You can walk through rooms.
  • 18:51 - 18:54
    You can figure out what other people
    are thinking. You can talk to them.
  • 18:54 - 18:57
    You can navigate space.
    You know about numbers.
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    You know causal relationships.
    You know about moral reasoning.
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    You do this effortlessly,
    so we don't see it,
  • 19:02 - 19:05
    but that is how we get the world right,
    and it's a remarkable
  • 19:05 - 19:07
    and very difficult-to-understand
    accomplishment.
  • 19:07 - 19:10
    CA: I suspect there are people
    in the audience who have
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    this view of accelerating
    technological power
  • 19:12 - 19:15
    who might dispute your statement
    that never in our lifetimes
  • 19:15 - 19:18
    will a computer do what
    a three-year-old child can do,
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    but what's clear is that in any scenario,
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    our machines have so much to learn
    from our toddlers.
  • 19:26 - 19:29
    LS: I think so. You'll have some
    machine learning folks up here.
  • 19:29 - 19:34
    I mean, you should never bet
    against babies or chimpanzees
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    or technology as a matter of practice,
  • 19:37 - 19:42
    but it's not just
    a difference in quantity,
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    it's a difference in kind.
  • 19:44 - 19:46
    We have incredibly powerful computers,
  • 19:46 - 19:48
    and they do do amazingly
    sophisticated things,
  • 19:48 - 19:51
    often with very big amounts of data.
  • 19:51 - 19:54
    Human minds do, I think,
    something quite different,
  • 19:54 - 19:58
    and I think it's the structured,
    hierarchical nature of human knowledge
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    that remains a real challenge.
  • 20:00 - 20:03
    CA: Laura Schulz, wonderful
    food for thought. Thank you so much.
  • 20:03 - 20:06
    LS: Thank you.
    (Applause)
Title:
The surprisingly logical minds of babies
Speaker:
Laura Schulz
Description:

How do babies learn so much from so little so quickly? In a fun, experiment-filled talk, cognitive scientist Laura Schulz shows how our young ones make decisions with a surprisingly strong sense of logic, well before they can talk.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
20:18
  • The English transcript was updated on 6/10/2015. At 02:57, "shoes and ships and ceiling wax and cabbages and kings." was changed to "shoes and ships and sealing wax and cabbages and kings."

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