The surprisingly logical minds of babies
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0:01 - 0:03Mark Twain summed up
what I take to be -
0:03 - 0:06one of the fundamental problems
of cognitive science -
0:06 - 0:08with a single witticism.
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0:08 - 0:11He said, "There's something
fascinating about science. -
0:11 - 0:15One gets such wholesale
returns of conjecture -
0:15 - 0:18out of such a trifling
investment in fact." -
0:18 - 0:20(Laughter)
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0:20 - 0:23Twain meant it as a joke,
of course, but he's right: -
0:23 - 0:26There's something
fascinating about science. -
0:26 - 0:30From a few bones, we infer
the existence of dinosuars. -
0:31 - 0:35From spectral lines,
the composition of nebulae. -
0:35 - 0:38From fruit flies,
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0:38 - 0:41the mechanisms of heredity,
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0:41 - 0:46and from reconstructed images
of blood flowing through the brain, -
0:46 - 0:50or in my case, from the behavior
of very young children, -
0:50 - 0:53we try to say something about
the fundamental mechanisms -
0:53 - 0:55of human cognition.
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0:56 - 1:00In particular, in my lab in the Department
of Brain and Cognitive Sciences at MIT, -
1:00 - 1:04I have spent the past decade
trying to understand the mystery -
1:04 - 1:08of how children learn so much
from so little so quickly. -
1:09 - 1:12Because, it turns out that
the fascinating thing about science -
1:12 - 1:15is also a fascinating
thing about children, -
1:15 - 1:18which, to put a gentler
spin on Mark Twain, -
1:18 - 1:22is precisely their ability
to draw rich, abstract inferences -
1:22 - 1:27rapidly and accurately
from sparse, noisy data. -
1:28 - 1:31I'm going to give you
just two examples today. -
1:31 - 1:33One is about a problem of generalization,
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1:33 - 1:36and the other is about a problem
of causal reasoning. -
1:36 - 1:38And although I'm going to talk
about work in my lab, -
1:38 - 1:42this work is inspired by
and indebted to a field. -
1:42 - 1:46I'm grateful to mentors, colleagues,
and collaborators around the world. -
1:47 - 1:50Let me start with the problem
of generalization. -
1:51 - 1:55Generalizing from small samples of data
is the bread and butter of science. -
1:55 - 1:57We poll a tiny fraction of the electorate
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1:57 - 2:00and we predict the outcome
of national elections. -
2:00 - 2:04We see how a handful of patients
responds to treatment in a clinical trial, -
2:04 - 2:07and we bring drugs to a national market.
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2:07 - 2:12But this only works if our sample
is randomly drawn from the population. -
2:12 - 2:14If our sample is cherry-picked
in some way -- -
2:14 - 2:16say, we poll only urban voters,
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2:16 - 2:21or say, in our clinical trials
for treatments for heart disease, -
2:21 - 2:23we include only men --
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2:23 - 2:26the results may not generalize
to the broader population. -
2:26 - 2:30So scientists care whether evidence
is randomly sampled or not, -
2:30 - 2:32but what does that have to do with babies?
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2:33 - 2:37Well, babies have to generalize
from small samples of data all the time. -
2:37 - 2:40They see a few rubber ducks
and learn that they float, -
2:40 - 2:44or a few balls and learn that they bounce.
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2:44 - 2:47And they develop expectations
about ducks and balls -
2:47 - 2:50that they're going to extend
to rubber ducks and balls -
2:50 - 2:51for the rest of their lives.
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2:51 - 2:55And the kinds of generalizations
babies have to make about ducks and balls -
2:55 - 2:57they have to make about almost everything:
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2:57 - 3:01shoes and ships and ceiling wax
and cabbages and kings. -
3:02 - 3:05So do babies care whether
the tiny bit of evidence they see -
3:05 - 3:09is plausibly representative
of a larger population? -
3:10 - 3:12Let's find out.
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3:12 - 3:13I'm going to show you two movies,
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3:13 - 3:16one from each of two conditions
of an experiment, -
3:16 - 3:18and because you're going to see
just two movies, -
3:18 - 3:20you're going to see just two babies,
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3:20 - 3:24and any two babies differ from each other
in innumerable ways. -
3:24 - 3:27But these babies, of course,
here stand in for groups of babies, -
3:27 - 3:29and the differences you're going to see
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3:29 - 3:35represent average group differences
in babies' behavior across conditions. -
3:35 - 3:38In each movie, you're going to see
a baby doing maybe -
3:38 - 3:41just exactly what you might
expect a baby to do, -
3:41 - 3:45and we can hardly make babies
more magical than they already are. -
3:46 - 3:48But to my mind the magical thing,
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3:48 - 3:50and what I want you to pay attention to,
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3:50 - 3:53is the contrast between
these two conditions, -
3:53 - 3:57because the only thing
that differs between these two movies -
3:57 - 4:00is the statistical evidence
the babies are going to observe. -
4:01 - 4:05We're going to show babies
a box of blue and yellow balls, -
4:05 - 4:09and my then-graduate student,
now colleague at Stanford, Hyowon Gweon, -
4:09 - 4:12is going to pull three blue balls
in a row out of this box, -
4:12 - 4:15and when she pulls those balls out,
she's going to squeeze them, -
4:15 - 4:18and the balls are going to squeak.
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4:18 - 4:20And if you're a baby,
that's like a TED Talk. -
4:20 - 4:22It doesn't get better than that.
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4:22 - 4:25(Laughter)
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4:27 - 4:31But the important point is it's really
easy to pull three blue balls in a row -
4:31 - 4:33out of a box of mostly blue balls.
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4:33 - 4:35You could do that with your eyes closed.
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4:35 - 4:38It's plausibly a random sample
from this population. -
4:38 - 4:42And if you can reach into a box at random
and pull out things that squeak, -
4:42 - 4:45then maybe everything in the box squeaks.
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4:45 - 4:48So maybe babies should expect
those yellow balls to squeak as well. -
4:48 - 4:51Now, those yellow balls
have funny sticks on the end, -
4:51 - 4:54so babies could do other things
with them if they wanted to. -
4:54 - 4:55They could pound them or whack them.
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4:55 - 4:58But let's see what the baby does.
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5:01 - 5:04(Video) Hyowon Gweon: See this?
(Ball squeaks) -
5:05 - 5:08Did you see that?
(Ball squeaks) -
5:08 - 5:11Cool.
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5:13 - 5:15See this one?
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5:15 - 5:17(Ball squeaks)
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5:17 - 5:19Wow.
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5:22 - 5:24Laura Schulz: Told you. (Laughs)
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5:24 - 5:28(Video) HG: See this one?
(Ball squeaks) -
5:28 - 5:33Hey Clara, this one's for you.
You can go ahead and play. -
5:40 - 5:44(Laughter)
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5:44 - 5:47LS: I don't even have to talk, right?
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5:47 - 5:50All right, it's nice that babies
will generalize properties -
5:50 - 5:52of blue balls to yellow balls,
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5:52 - 5:55and it's impressive that babies
can learn from imitating us, -
5:55 - 5:58but we've known those things about babies
for a very long time. -
5:58 - 6:00The really interesting question
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6:00 - 6:03is what happens when we show babies
exactly the same thing, -
6:03 - 6:07and we can ensure it's exactly the same
because we have a secret compartment -
6:07 - 6:09and we actually pull the balls from there,
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6:09 - 6:12but this time, all we change
is the apparent population -
6:12 - 6:15from which that evidence was drawn.
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6:15 - 6:19This time, we're going to show babies
three blue balls -
6:19 - 6:22pulled out of a box
of mostly yellow balls, -
6:22 - 6:23and guess what?
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6:23 - 6:26You [probably won't] randomly draw
three blue balls in a row -
6:26 - 6:29out of a box of mostly yellow balls.
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6:29 - 6:32That is not plausibly
randomly sampled evidence. -
6:32 - 6:38That evidence suggests that maybe Hyowon
was deliberately sampling the blue balls. -
6:38 - 6:40Maybe there's something special
about the blue balls. -
6:41 - 6:44Maybe only the blue balls squeak.
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6:44 - 6:46Let's see what the baby does.
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6:46 - 6:49(Video) HG: See this?
(Ball squeaks) -
6:51 - 6:53See this toy?
(Ball squeaks) -
6:53 - 6:59Oh, that was cool. See?
(Ball squeaks) -
6:59 - 7:03Now this one's for you to play.
You can go ahead and play. -
7:06 - 7:12(Fussing)
(Laughter) -
7:15 - 7:18LS: So you just saw
two 15-month-old babies -
7:18 - 7:20do entirely different things
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7:20 - 7:23based only on the probability
of the sample they observed. -
7:23 - 7:26Let me show you the experimental results.
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7:26 - 7:28On the vertical axis, you'll see
the percentage of babies -
7:28 - 7:31who squeezed the ball in each condition,
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7:31 - 7:35and as you'll see, babies are much
more likely to generalize the evidence -
7:35 - 7:38when it's plausibly representative
of the population -
7:38 - 7:41than when the evidence
is clearly cherry-picked. -
7:41 - 7:44And this leads to a fun prediction:
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7:44 - 7:49Suppose you pulled just one blue ball
out of the mostly yellow box. -
7:49 - 7:53You [probably won't] pull three blue balls
in a row at random out of a yellow box, -
7:53 - 7:55but you could randomly sample
just one blue ball. -
7:55 - 7:57That's not an improbable sample.
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7:57 - 7:59And if you could reach into
a box at random -
7:59 - 8:03and pull out something that squeaks,
maybe everything in the box squeaks. -
8:04 - 8:08So even though babies are going to see
much less evidence for squeaking, -
8:08 - 8:11and have many fewer actions to imitate
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8:11 - 8:14in this one ball condition than in
the condition you just saw, -
8:14 - 8:18we predicted that babies themselves
would squeeze more, -
8:18 - 8:21and that's exactly what we found.
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8:21 - 8:25So 15-month-old babies,
in this respect, like scientists, -
8:25 - 8:28care whether evidence
is randomly sampled or not, -
8:28 - 8:32and they use this to develop
expectations about the world: -
8:32 - 8:34what squeaks and what doesn't,
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8:34 - 8:37what to explore and what to ignore.
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8:38 - 8:40Let me show you another example now,
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8:40 - 8:43this time about a problem
of causal reasoning. -
8:43 - 8:46And it starts with a problem
of confounded evidence -
8:46 - 8:47that all of us have,
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8:47 - 8:49which is that we are part of the world.
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8:49 - 8:53And this might not seem like a problem
to you, but like most problems, -
8:53 - 8:55it's only a problem when things go wrong.
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8:55 - 8:57Take this baby, for instance.
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8:57 - 8:59Things are going wrong for him.
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8:59 - 9:01He would like to make
this toy go, and he can't. -
9:01 - 9:04I'll show you a few-second clip.
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9:09 - 9:11And there's two possibilities, broadly:
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9:11 - 9:14Maybe he's doing something wrong,
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9:14 - 9:18or maybe there's something
wrong with the toy. -
9:18 - 9:20So in this next experiment,
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9:20 - 9:24we're going to give babies
just a tiny bit of statistical data -
9:24 - 9:26supporting one hypothesis over the other,
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9:26 - 9:30and we're going to see if babies
can use that to make different decisions -
9:30 - 9:31about what to do.
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9:31 - 9:33Here's the setup.
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9:34 - 9:37Hyowon is going to try to make
the toy go and succeed. -
9:37 - 9:40I am then going to try twice
and fail both times, -
9:40 - 9:44and then Hyowon is going
to try again and succeed, -
9:44 - 9:47and this roughly sums up my relationship
to my graduate students -
9:47 - 9:50in technology across the board.
-
9:50 - 9:53But the important point here is
it provides a little bit of evidence -
9:53 - 9:57that the problem isn't with the toy,
it's with the person. -
9:57 - 9:59Some people can make this toy go,
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9:59 - 10:00and some can't.
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10:01 - 10:04Now, when the baby gets the toy,
he's going to have a choice. -
10:04 - 10:06His mom is right there,
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10:06 - 10:10so he can go ahead and hand off the toy
and change the person, -
10:10 - 10:13but there's also going to be
another toy at the end of that cloth, -
10:13 - 10:16and he can pull the cloth towards him
and change the toy. -
10:16 - 10:19So let's see what the baby does.
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10:19 - 10:23(Video) HG: Two, three. Go!
(Music) -
10:23 - 10:26LS: One, two, three, go!
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10:26 - 10:33Arthur, I'm going to try again.
One, two, three, go! -
10:34 - 10:36YG: Arthur, let me try again, okay?
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10:36 - 10:41One, two, three, go!
(Music) -
10:42 - 10:43Look at that. Remember these toys?
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10:43 - 10:47See these toys? Yeah, I'm going
to put this one over here, -
10:47 - 10:49and I'm going to give this one to you.
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10:49 - 10:51You can go ahead and play.
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11:11 - 11:16LS: Okay, Laura, but of course,
babies love their mommies. -
11:16 - 11:18Of course babies give toys
to their mommies -
11:18 - 11:20when they can't make them work.
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11:20 - 11:24So again, the really important question
is what happens when we change -
11:24 - 11:27the statistical data ever so slightly.
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11:27 - 11:31This time, babies are going to see the toy
work and fail in exactly the same order, -
11:31 - 11:33but we're changing
the distribution of evidence. -
11:33 - 11:38This time, Hyowon is going to succeed
once and fail once, and so am I. -
11:38 - 11:43And this suggests it doesn't matter
who tries this toy, the toy is broken. -
11:43 - 11:45It doesn't work all the time.
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11:45 - 11:47Again, the baby's going to have a choice.
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11:47 - 11:51Her mom is right next to her,
so she can change the person, -
11:51 - 11:54and there's going to be another toy
at the end of the cloth. -
11:54 - 11:55Let's watch what she does.
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11:55 - 12:00(Video) HG: Two, three, go!
(Music) -
12:00 - 12:05Let me try one more time.
One, two, three, go! -
12:05 - 12:07Hmm.
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12:08 - 12:11LS: Let me try, Clara.
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12:11 - 12:15One, two, three, go!
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12:15 - 12:17Hmm, let me try again.
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12:17 - 12:23One, two, three, go!
(Music) -
12:23 - 12:25HG: I'm going
to put this one over here, -
12:25 - 12:27and I'm going to give this one to you.
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12:27 - 12:31You can go ahead and play.
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12:46 - 12:51(Applause)
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12:53 - 12:55LS: Let me show you
the experimental results. -
12:55 - 12:58On the vertical axis,
you'll see the distribution -
12:58 - 13:00of children's choices in each condition,
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13:00 - 13:05and you'll see that the distribution
of the choices children make -
13:05 - 13:08depends on the evidence they observe.
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13:08 - 13:10So in the second year of life,
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13:10 - 13:12babies can use a tiny bit
of statistical data -
13:12 - 13:16to decide between two
fundamentally different strategies -
13:16 - 13:17for acting in the world:
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13:17 - 13:20asking for help and exploring.
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13:22 - 13:25I've just shown you
two laboratory experiments -
13:25 - 13:29out of literally hundreds in the field
that make similar points, -
13:29 - 13:31because the really critical point
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13:31 - 13:36is that children's ability
to make rich inferences from sparse data -
13:36 - 13:42underlies all the species-specific
cultural learning that we do. -
13:42 - 13:46Children learn about new tools
from just a few examples. -
13:46 - 13:51They learn new causal relationships
from just a few examples. -
13:52 - 13:57They even learn new words,
in this case in American Sign Language. -
13:57 - 13:59I want to close with just two points.
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14:00 - 14:04If you've been following my world,
the field of brain and cognitive sciences, -
14:04 - 14:06for the past few years,
-
14:06 - 14:08three big ideas will have come
to your attention. -
14:08 - 14:12The first is that this is
the era of the brain. -
14:12 - 14:15And indeed, there have been
staggering discoveries in neuroscience: -
14:15 - 14:19localizing functionally specialized
regions of cortex, -
14:19 - 14:21turning mouse brains transparent,
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14:21 - 14:25activating neurons with light.
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14:25 - 14:27A second big idea
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14:27 - 14:31is that this is the era of big data
and machine learning, -
14:31 - 14:34and machine learning promises
to revolutionize our understanding -
14:34 - 14:39of everything from social networks
to epidemiology. -
14:39 - 14:42And maybe, as it tackles problems
of scene understanding -
14:42 - 14:44and natural language processing,
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14:44 - 14:47to tell us something
about human cognition. -
14:48 - 14:50And the final big idea you'll have heard
-
14:50 - 14:53is that maybe it's a good idea we're going
to know so much about brains -
14:53 - 14:55and have so much access to big data,
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14:55 - 14:58because left to our own devices,
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14:58 - 15:01humans are fallible, we take shortcuts,
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15:01 - 15:05we err, we make mistakes,
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15:05 - 15:08we're biased, and in innumerable ways,
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15:08 - 15:11we get the world wrong.
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15:13 - 15:16I think these are all important stories,
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15:16 - 15:20and they have a lot to tell us
about what it means to be human, -
15:20 - 15:23but I want you to note that today
I told you a very different story. -
15:24 - 15:28It's a story about minds and not brains,
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15:28 - 15:31and in particular, it's a story
about the kinds of computations -
15:31 - 15:33that uniquely human minds can perform,
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15:33 - 15:37which involve rich, structured knowledge
and the ability to learn -
15:37 - 15:43from small amounts of data,
the evidence of just a few examples. -
15:44 - 15:49And fundamentally, it's a story
about how starting as very small children -
15:49 - 15:53and continuing out all the way
to the greatest accomplishments -
15:53 - 15:57of our culture,
-
15:57 - 15:59we get the world right.
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16:00 - 16:06Folks, human minds do not only learn
from small amounts of data. -
16:06 - 16:08Human minds think
of altogether new ideas. -
16:09 - 16:12Human minds generate
research and discovery, -
16:12 - 16:17and human minds generate
art and literature and poetry and theater, -
16:17 - 16:21and human minds take care of other humans:
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16:21 - 16:24our old, our young, our sick.
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16:25 - 16:27We even heal them.
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16:28 - 16:31In the years to come, we're going
to see technological innovations -
16:31 - 16:34beyond anything I can even envision,
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16:34 - 16:37but we are very unlikely
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16:37 - 16:42to see anything even approximating
the computational power of a human child -
16:42 - 16:47in my lifetime or in yours.
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16:47 - 16:52If we invest in these most powerful
learners and their development, -
16:52 - 16:55in babies and children
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16:55 - 16:56and mothers and fathers
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16:56 - 16:59and caregivers and teachers
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16:59 - 17:03the ways we invest in our other
most powerful and elegant forms -
17:03 - 17:06of technology, engineering and design,
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17:06 - 17:09we will not just be dreaming
of a better future, -
17:09 - 17:12we will be planning for one.
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17:12 - 17:14Thank you very much.
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17:14 - 17:17(Applause)
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17:18 - 17:22Chris Anderson: Laura, thank you.
I do actually have a question for you. -
17:22 - 17:25First of all, the research is insane.
-
17:25 - 17:28I mean, who would design
an experiment like that? (Laughter) -
17:29 - 17:31I've seen that a couple of times,
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17:31 - 17:34and I still don't honestly believe
that that can truly be happening, -
17:34 - 17:37but other people have done
similar experiments; it checks out. -
17:37 - 17:39The babies really are that genius.
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17:39 - 17:42LS: You know, they look really impressive
in our experiments, -
17:42 - 17:45but think about what they
look like in real life, right? -
17:45 - 17:46It starts out as a baby.
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17:46 - 17:48Eighteen months later,
it's talking to you, -
17:48 - 17:51and babies' first words aren't just
things like balls and ducks, -
17:51 - 17:54they're things like "all gone,"
which refer to disappearance, -
17:54 - 17:56or "uh-oh," which refer
to unintentional actions. -
17:56 - 17:58It has to be that powerful.
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17:58 - 18:00It has to be much more powerful
than anything I showed you. -
18:00 - 18:02They're figuring out the entire world.
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18:02 - 18:05A four-year-old can talk to you
about almost anything. -
18:05 - 18:07(Applause)
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18:07 - 18:10CA: And if I understand you right,
the other key point you're making is, -
18:10 - 18:13we've been through these years
where there's all this talk -
18:13 - 18:15of how quirky and buggy our minds are,
-
18:15 - 18:18that behavioral economics
and the whole theories behind that -
18:18 - 18:20that we're not rational agents.
-
18:20 - 18:24You're really saying that the bigger
story is how extraordinary, -
18:24 - 18:29and there really is genius there
that is underappreciated. -
18:29 - 18:31LS: One of my favorite
quotes in psychology -
18:31 - 18:33comes from the social
psychologist Solomon Asch, -
18:33 - 18:36and he said the fundamental task
of psychology is to remove -
18:36 - 18:39the veil of self-evidence from things.
-
18:39 - 18:43There are orders of magnitude
more decisions you make every day -
18:43 - 18:44that get the world right.
-
18:44 - 18:47You know about objects
and their properties. -
18:47 - 18:50You know them when they're occluded.
You know them in the dark. -
18:50 - 18:51You can walk through rooms.
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18:51 - 18:54You can figure out what other people
are thinking. You can talk to them. -
18:54 - 18:57You can navigate space.
You know about numbers. -
18:57 - 19:00You know causal relationships.
You know about moral reasoning. -
19:00 - 19:02You do this effortlessly,
so we don't see it, -
19:02 - 19:05but that is how we get the world right,
and it's a remarkable -
19:05 - 19:07and very difficult-to-understand
accomplishment. -
19:07 - 19:10CA: I suspect there are people
in the audience who have -
19:10 - 19:12this view of accelerating
technological power -
19:12 - 19:15who might dispute your statement
that never in our lifetimes -
19:15 - 19:18will a computer do what
a three-year-old child can do, -
19:18 - 19:21but what's clear is that in any scenario,
-
19:21 - 19:25our machines have so much to learn
from our toddlers. -
19:26 - 19:29LS: I think so. You'll have some
machine learning folks up here. -
19:29 - 19:34I mean, you should never bet
against babies or chimpanzees -
19:34 - 19:37or technology as a matter of practice,
-
19:37 - 19:42but it's not just
a difference in quantity, -
19:42 - 19:44it's a difference in kind.
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19:44 - 19:46We have incredibly powerful computers,
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19:46 - 19:48and they do do amazingly
sophisticated things, -
19:48 - 19:51often with very big amounts of data.
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19:51 - 19:54Human minds do, I think,
something quite different, -
19:54 - 19:58and I think it's the structured,
hierarchical nature of human knowledge -
19:58 - 20:00that remains a real challenge.
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20:00 - 20:03CA: Laura Schulz, wonderful
food for thought. Thank you so much. -
20:03 - 20:06LS: Thank you.
(Applause)
- Title:
- The surprisingly logical minds of babies
- Speaker:
- Laura Schulz
- Description:
-
How do babies learn so much from so little so quickly? In a fun, experiment-filled talk, cognitive scientist Laura Schulz shows how our young ones make decisions with a surprisingly strong sense of logic, well before they can talk.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 20:18
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Krystian Aparta commented on English subtitles for The surprisingly logical minds of babies | |
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Krystian Aparta edited English subtitles for The surprisingly logical minds of babies | |
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Morton Bast edited English subtitles for The surprisingly logical minds of babies | |
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Morton Bast edited English subtitles for The surprisingly logical minds of babies | |
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Morton Bast edited English subtitles for The surprisingly logical minds of babies | |
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Morton Bast edited English subtitles for The surprisingly logical minds of babies | |
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Morton Bast approved English subtitles for The surprisingly logical minds of babies | |
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Morton Bast edited English subtitles for The surprisingly logical minds of babies |
Krystian Aparta
The English transcript was updated on 6/10/2015. At 02:57, "shoes and ships and ceiling wax and cabbages and kings." was changed to "shoes and ships and sealing wax and cabbages and kings."