The way we think about charity is dead wrong
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0:01 - 0:05I want to talk about social innovation
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0:05 - 0:07and social entrepreneurship.
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0:08 - 0:10I happen to have triplets.
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0:11 - 0:13They're little. They're five years old.
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0:13 - 0:16Sometimes I tell people I have triplets.
They say, "Really? How many?" -
0:16 - 0:18(Laughter)
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0:18 - 0:22Here's a picture of the kids --
that's Sage, and Annalisa and Rider. -
0:23 - 0:26Now, I also happen to be gay.
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0:28 - 0:31Being gay and fathering triplets is by far
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0:31 - 0:33the most socially innovative,
socially entrepreneurial thing -
0:33 - 0:35I have ever done.
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0:35 - 0:36(Laughter)
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0:36 - 0:40(Applause)
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0:40 - 0:44The real social innovation I want
to talk about involves charity. -
0:44 - 0:48I want to talk about how the things
we've been taught to think -
0:48 - 0:50about giving and about charity
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0:50 - 0:52and about the nonprofit sector,
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0:52 - 0:56are actually undermining
the causes we love, -
0:56 - 0:58and our profound yearning
to change the world. -
0:59 - 1:02But before I do that,
I want to ask if we even believe -
1:02 - 1:05that the nonprofit sector
has any serious role to play -
1:05 - 1:06in changing the world.
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1:07 - 1:11A lot of people say now that business
will lift up the developing economies, -
1:11 - 1:13and social business
will take care of the rest. -
1:14 - 1:18And I do believe that business will move
the great mass of humanity forward. -
1:20 - 1:24But it always leaves behind
that 10 percent or more -
1:24 - 1:26that is most disadvantaged or unlucky.
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1:28 - 1:29And social business needs markets,
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1:30 - 1:32and there are some issues
for which you just can't develop -
1:32 - 1:35the kind of money measures
that you need for a market. -
1:35 - 1:39I sit on the board of a center
for the developmentally disabled, -
1:39 - 1:41and these people want laughter
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1:41 - 1:43and compassion and they want love.
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1:45 - 1:47How do you monetize that?
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1:49 - 1:52And that's where the nonprofit sector
and philanthropy come in. -
1:53 - 1:56Philanthropy is the market for love.
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1:57 - 1:59It is the market for all those people
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1:59 - 2:01for whom there is no other market coming.
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2:02 - 2:05And so if we really want,
like Buckminster Fuller said, -
2:05 - 2:07a world that works for everyone,
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2:07 - 2:09with no one and nothing left out,
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2:09 - 2:12then the nonprofit sector has to be
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2:12 - 2:14a serious part of the conversation.
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2:15 - 2:16But it doesn't seem to be working.
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2:17 - 2:20Why have our breast cancer
charities not come close -
2:20 - 2:21to finding a cure for breast cancer,
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2:21 - 2:23or our homeless charities not come close
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2:23 - 2:26to ending homelessness in any major city?
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2:26 - 2:28Why has poverty remained stuck
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2:28 - 2:32at 12 percent of the U.S.
population for 40 years? -
2:34 - 2:36And the answer is,
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2:36 - 2:39these social problems
are massive in scale, -
2:39 - 2:42our organizations
are tiny up against them, -
2:42 - 2:45and we have a belief system
that keeps them tiny. -
2:45 - 2:47We have two rulebooks.
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2:47 - 2:49We have one for the nonprofit sector,
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2:49 - 2:51and one for the rest
of the economic world. -
2:52 - 2:54It's an apartheid, and it discriminates
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2:54 - 2:57against the nonprofit sector
in five different areas, -
2:57 - 2:59the first being compensation.
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3:00 - 3:03So in the for-profit sector,
the more value you produce, -
3:03 - 3:04the more money you can make.
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3:04 - 3:06But we don't like nonprofits to use money
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3:06 - 3:10to incentivize people
to produce more in social service. -
3:10 - 3:13We have a visceral reaction
to the idea that anyone -
3:13 - 3:15would make very much money
helping other people. -
3:16 - 3:18Interestingly, we don't have
a visceral reaction -
3:18 - 3:21to the notion that people
would make a lot of money -
3:21 - 3:22not helping other people.
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3:22 - 3:24You know, you want to make
50 million dollars -
3:24 - 3:27selling violent video games
to kids, go for it. -
3:27 - 3:29We'll put you on the cover
of Wired magazine. -
3:29 - 3:31But you want to make
half a million dollars -
3:31 - 3:32trying to cure kids of malaria,
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3:32 - 3:35and you're considered a parasite yourself.
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3:35 - 3:40(Applause)
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3:40 - 3:43And we think of this
as our system of ethics, -
3:43 - 3:45but what we don't realize
is that this system -
3:45 - 3:48has a powerful side effect, which is:
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3:48 - 3:52It gives a really stark,
mutually exclusive choice -
3:52 - 3:56between doing very well
for yourself and your family -
3:56 - 3:58or doing good for the world,
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3:58 - 4:01to the brightest minds
coming out of our best universities, -
4:01 - 4:03and sends tens of thousands of people
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4:03 - 4:06who could make a huge difference
in the nonprofit sector, -
4:06 - 4:08marching every year
directly into the for-profit sector -
4:08 - 4:12because they're not willing to make
that kind of lifelong economic sacrifice. -
4:13 - 4:16Businessweek did a survey,
looked at the compensation packages -
4:16 - 4:19for MBAs 10 years out of business school.
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4:19 - 4:22And the median compensation
for a Stanford MBA, -
4:22 - 4:26with bonus, at the age of 38,
was 400,000 dollars. -
4:27 - 4:29Meanwhile, for the same year,
the average salary -
4:29 - 4:32for the CEO of a $5 million-plus
medical charity in the U.S. -
4:32 - 4:37was 232,000 dollars,
and for a hunger charity, 84,000 dollars. -
4:38 - 4:40Now, there's no way you're
going to get a lot of people -
4:40 - 4:44with $400,000 talent to make
a $316,000 sacrifice every year -
4:44 - 4:47to become the CEO of a hunger charity.
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4:48 - 4:51Some people say, "Well, that's just
because those MBA types are greedy." -
4:51 - 4:53Not necessarily. They might be smart.
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4:54 - 4:56It's cheaper for that person to donate
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4:56 - 5:00100,000 dollars every year
to the hunger charity; -
5:00 - 5:02save 50,000 dollars on their taxes --
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5:02 - 5:06so still be roughly 270,000 dollars
a year ahead of the game -- -
5:06 - 5:09now be called a philanthropist
because they donated -
5:09 - 5:11100,000 dollars to charity;
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5:11 - 5:13probably sit on the board
of the hunger charity; -
5:13 - 5:15indeed, probably supervise the poor SOB
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5:15 - 5:18who decided to become the CEO
of the hunger charity; -
5:18 - 5:19(Laughter)
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5:19 - 5:22and have a lifetime
of this kind of power and influence -
5:22 - 5:24and popular praise still ahead of them.
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5:26 - 5:29The second area of discrimination
is advertising and marketing. -
5:29 - 5:33So we tell the for-profit sector,
"Spend, spend, spend on advertising, -
5:33 - 5:36until the last dollar no longer
produces a penny of value." -
5:37 - 5:40But we don't like to see our donations
spent on advertising in charity. -
5:40 - 5:44Our attitude is, "Well, look,
if you can get the advertising donated, -
5:44 - 5:47you know, to air at four o'clock
in the morning, I'm okay with that. -
5:47 - 5:50But I don't want my donation
spent on advertising, -
5:50 - 5:51I want it go to the needy."
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5:51 - 5:53As if the money invested in advertising
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5:53 - 5:56could not bring in dramatically
greater sums of money -
5:56 - 5:57to serve the needy.
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5:58 - 6:00In the 1990s, my company created
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6:00 - 6:03the long-distance
AIDSRide bicycle journeys, -
6:03 - 6:08and the 60 mile-long
breast cancer three-day walks, -
6:08 - 6:11and over the course of nine years,
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6:11 - 6:16we had 182,000 ordinary
heroes participate, -
6:16 - 6:20and they raised a total
of 581 million dollars. -
6:20 - 6:23(Applause)
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6:23 - 6:26They raised more money
more quickly for these causes -
6:26 - 6:27than any events in history,
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6:27 - 6:30all based on the idea
that people are weary -
6:30 - 6:33of being asked to do the least
they can possibly do. -
6:33 - 6:37People are yearning to measure
the full distance of their potential -
6:37 - 6:40on behalf of the causes
that they care about deeply. -
6:41 - 6:42But they have to be asked.
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6:44 - 6:46We got that many people to participate
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6:46 - 6:48by buying full-page ads
in The New York Times, -
6:48 - 6:51in The Boston Globe, in prime time
radio and TV advertising. -
6:51 - 6:54Do you know how many people
we would've gotten -
6:54 - 6:55if we put up fliers in the laundromat?
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6:57 - 7:01Charitable giving has remained stuck
in the U.S., at two percent of GDP, -
7:01 - 7:04ever since we started
measuring it in the 1970s. -
7:04 - 7:06That's an important fact,
because it tells us -
7:06 - 7:09that in 40 years, the nonprofit sector
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7:09 - 7:12has not been able
to wrestle any market share -
7:12 - 7:14away from the for-profit sector.
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7:15 - 7:17And if you think about it,
how could one sector -
7:17 - 7:20possibly take market share
away from another sector -
7:20 - 7:22if it isn't really allowed to market?
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7:23 - 7:25And if we tell the consumer brands,
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7:25 - 7:28"You may advertise
all the benefits of your product," -
7:28 - 7:31but we tell charities, "You cannot
advertise all the good that you do," -
7:31 - 7:34where do we think the consumer
dollars are going to flow? -
7:35 - 7:38The third area of discrimination
is the taking of risk -
7:38 - 7:41in pursuit of new ideas
for generating revenue. -
7:42 - 7:46So Disney can make a new
$200 million movie that flops, -
7:46 - 7:48and nobody calls the attorney general.
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7:49 - 7:53But you do a little $1 million
community fundraiser for the poor, -
7:53 - 7:57and it doesn't produce a 75 percent profit
to the cause in the first 12 months, -
7:57 - 7:59and your character
is called into question. -
7:59 - 8:03So nonprofits are really reluctant
to attempt any brave, -
8:03 - 8:06daring, giant-scale
new fundraising endeavors, -
8:06 - 8:07for fear that if the thing fails,
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8:07 - 8:10their reputations will be dragged
through the mud. -
8:10 - 8:11Well, you and I know
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8:11 - 8:13when you prohibit failure,
you kill innovation. -
8:14 - 8:17If you kill innovation in fundraising,
you can't raise more revenue; -
8:17 - 8:19if you can't raise more revenue,
you can't grow; -
8:19 - 8:23and if you can't grow, you can't
possibly solve large social problems. -
8:24 - 8:25The fourth area is time.
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8:26 - 8:30So Amazon went for six years
without returning any profit to investors, -
8:30 - 8:31and people had patience.
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8:32 - 8:35They knew that there was a long-term
objective down the line, -
8:35 - 8:36of building market dominance.
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8:36 - 8:39But if a nonprofit organization
ever had a dream -
8:39 - 8:43of building magnificent scale
that required that for six years, -
8:43 - 8:45no money was going to go to the needy,
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8:45 - 8:48it was all going to be invested
in building this scale, -
8:48 - 8:49we would expect a crucifixion.
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8:51 - 8:52The last area is profit itself.
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8:52 - 8:55So the for-profit sector
can pay people profits -
8:55 - 8:57in order to attract their capital
for their new ideas, -
8:57 - 9:00but you can't pay profits
in a nonprofit sector, -
9:00 - 9:02so the for-profit sector has a lock
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9:02 - 9:05on the multi-trillion-dollar
capital markets, -
9:05 - 9:10and the nonprofit sector is starved
for growth and risk and idea capital. -
9:11 - 9:13Well, you put those
five things together -- -
9:13 - 9:16you can't use money to lure talent
away from the for-profit sector; -
9:16 - 9:18you can't advertise
on anywhere near the scale -
9:18 - 9:21the for-profit sector
does for new customers; -
9:21 - 9:24you can't take the kinds of risks
in pursuit of those customers -
9:24 - 9:25that the for-profit sector takes;
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9:25 - 9:29you don't have the same amount of time
to find them as the for-profit sector; -
9:29 - 9:32and you don't have a stock market
with which to fund any of this, -
9:32 - 9:34even if you could do it
in the first place -- -
9:34 - 9:36and you've just put the nonprofit sector
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9:36 - 9:39at an extreme disadvantage
to the for-profit sector, -
9:39 - 9:40on every level.
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9:42 - 9:45If we have any doubts about the effects
of this separate rule book, -
9:45 - 9:47this statistic is sobering:
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9:47 - 9:49From 1970 to 2009,
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9:49 - 9:52the number of nonprofits that really grew,
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9:52 - 9:55that crossed the $50 million
annual revenue barrier, -
9:55 - 9:57is 144.
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9:57 - 10:00In the same time, the number
of for-profits that crossed it -
10:00 - 10:02is 46,136.
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10:03 - 10:06So we're dealing with social problems
that are massive in scale, -
10:06 - 10:09and our organizations
can't generate any scale. -
10:09 - 10:11All of the scale goes
to Coca-Cola and Burger King. -
10:13 - 10:15So why do we think this way?
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10:16 - 10:20Well, like most fanatical
dogma in America, -
10:20 - 10:23these ideas come from old Puritan beliefs.
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10:23 - 10:27The Puritans came here
for religious reasons, or so they said, -
10:27 - 10:30but they also came here because
they wanted to make a lot of money. -
10:30 - 10:32They were pious people,
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10:32 - 10:35but they were also
really aggressive capitalists, -
10:35 - 10:38and they were accused of extreme forms
of profit-making tendencies, -
10:38 - 10:40compared to the other colonists.
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10:41 - 10:44But at the same time,
the Puritans were Calvinists, -
10:44 - 10:46so they were taught literally
to hate themselves. -
10:46 - 10:49They were taught
that self-interest was a raging sea -
10:49 - 10:52that was a sure path to eternal damnation.
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10:53 - 10:55This created a real problem
for these people. -
10:55 - 10:58Here they've come all the way across
the Atlantic to make all this money, -
10:58 - 11:01but making all this money
will get you sent directly to Hell. -
11:01 - 11:03What were they to do about this?
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11:03 - 11:05Well, charity became their answer.
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11:05 - 11:07It became this economic sanctuary,
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11:07 - 11:11where they could do penance
for their profit-making tendencies -- -
11:11 - 11:13at five cents on the dollar.
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11:14 - 11:16So of course, how could you
make money in charity -
11:16 - 11:19if charity was your penance
for making money? -
11:19 - 11:23Financial incentive was exiled
from the realm of helping others, -
11:23 - 11:26so that it could thrive in the area
of making money for yourself, -
11:26 - 11:30and in 400 years, nothing has intervened
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11:30 - 11:33to say, "That's counterproductive
and that's unfair." -
11:35 - 11:39Now, this ideology gets policed
by this one very dangerous question, -
11:39 - 11:43which is, "What percentage of my donation
goes to the cause versus overhead?" -
11:43 - 11:46There are a lot of problems
with this question. -
11:46 - 11:47I'm going to just focus on two.
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11:47 - 11:51First, it makes us think
that overhead is a negative, -
11:51 - 11:54that it is somehow not part of the cause.
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11:55 - 11:59But it absolutely is, especially
if it's being used for growth. -
12:00 - 12:04Now, this idea that overhead
is somehow an enemy of the cause -
12:04 - 12:06creates this second, much larger problem,
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12:06 - 12:10which is, it forces organizations
to go without the overhead things -
12:10 - 12:12they really need to grow,
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12:12 - 12:14in the interest of keeping overhead low.
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12:15 - 12:17So we've all been taught
that charities should spend -
12:17 - 12:20as little as possible on overhead
things like fundraising -
12:20 - 12:24under the theory that, well, the less
money you spend on fundraising, -
12:24 - 12:26the more money there is
available for the cause. -
12:27 - 12:30Well, that's true
if it's a depressing world -
12:30 - 12:32in which this pie cannot
be made any bigger. -
12:33 - 12:36But if it's a logical world
in which investment in fundraising -
12:37 - 12:40actually raises more funds
and makes the pie bigger, -
12:40 - 12:42then we have it precisely backwards,
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12:42 - 12:45and we should be investing more money,
not less, in fundraising, -
12:45 - 12:47because fundraising is the one thing
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12:47 - 12:50that has the potential
to multiply the amount of money -
12:50 - 12:53available for the cause
that we care about so deeply. -
12:54 - 12:56I'll give you two examples.
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12:56 - 12:57We launched the AIDSRides
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12:57 - 13:00with an initial investment
of 50,000 dollars in risk capital. -
13:01 - 13:06Within nine years,
we had multiplied that 1,982 times, -
13:06 - 13:10into 108 million dollars
after all expenses, for AIDS services. -
13:11 - 13:13We launched the breast cancer three-days
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13:13 - 13:17with an initial investment
of 350,000 dollars in risk capital. -
13:17 - 13:22Within just five years,
we had multiplied that 554 times, -
13:22 - 13:25into 194 million dollars
after all expenses, -
13:25 - 13:27for breast cancer research.
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13:27 - 13:30Now, if you were a philanthropist
really interested in breast cancer, -
13:30 - 13:32what would make more sense:
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13:32 - 13:35go out and find the most innovative
researcher in the world -
13:36 - 13:39and give her 350,000 dollars for research,
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13:39 - 13:43or give her fundraising
department the 350,000 dollars -
13:43 - 13:47to multiply it into 194 million dollars
for breast cancer research? -
13:48 - 13:512002 was our most successful year ever.
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13:51 - 13:54We netted for breast cancer
alone, that year alone, -
13:54 - 13:5771 million dollars after all expenses.
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13:58 - 14:00And then we went out of business,
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14:00 - 14:02suddenly and traumatically.
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14:03 - 14:08Why? Well, the short story is,
our sponsors split on us. -
14:08 - 14:10They wanted to distance themselves from us
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14:10 - 14:13because we were being
crucified in the media -
14:13 - 14:16for investing 40 percent
of the gross in recruitment -
14:16 - 14:20and customer service
and the magic of the experience, -
14:20 - 14:23and there is no accounting
terminology to describe -
14:23 - 14:26that kind of investment
in growth and in the future, -
14:26 - 14:29other than this demonic
label of "overhead." -
14:31 - 14:36So on one day, all 350
of our great employees -
14:36 - 14:38lost their jobs ...
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14:41 - 14:42because they were labeled "overhead."
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14:44 - 14:46Our sponsor went and tried
the events on their own. -
14:46 - 14:48The overhead went up.
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14:48 - 14:52Net income for breast cancer research
went down by 84 percent, -
14:52 - 14:54or 60 million dollars, in one year.
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14:56 - 15:01This is what happens when we confuse
morality with frugality. -
15:03 - 15:07We've all been taught that the bake sale
with five percent overhead -
15:07 - 15:10is morally superior to the professional
fundraising enterprise -
15:10 - 15:11with 40 percent overhead,
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15:11 - 15:14but we're missing the most important
piece of information, which is: -
15:15 - 15:17What is the actual size of these pies?
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15:18 - 15:22Who cares if the bake sale only has
five percent overhead if it's tiny? -
15:22 - 15:25What if the bake sale
only netted 71 dollars for charity -
15:25 - 15:27because it made no investment in its scale
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15:27 - 15:30and the professional
fundraising enterprise netted -
15:30 - 15:3271 million dollars because it did?
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15:33 - 15:34Now which pie would we prefer,
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15:34 - 15:37and which pie do we think people
who are hungry would prefer? -
15:38 - 15:41Here's how all of this
impacts the big picture. -
15:42 - 15:45I said that charitable giving is
two percent of GDP in the United States. -
15:45 - 15:48That's about 300 billion dollars a year.
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15:48 - 15:52But only about 20 percent of that,
or 60 billion dollars, -
15:52 - 15:54goes to health and human services causes.
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15:54 - 15:57The rest goes to religion
and higher education and hospitals, -
15:57 - 16:00and that 60 billion dollars
is not nearly enough -
16:00 - 16:02to tackle these problems.
-
16:02 - 16:07But if we could move charitable giving
from two percent of GDP, -
16:07 - 16:13up just one step to three percent of GDP,
by investing in that growth, -
16:13 - 16:17that would be an extra 150 billion dollars
a year in contributions, -
16:17 - 16:20and if that money
could go disproportionately -
16:20 - 16:22to health and human services charities,
-
16:22 - 16:25because those were the ones we encouraged
to invest in their growth, -
16:25 - 16:29that would represent a tripling
of contributions to that sector. -
16:29 - 16:31Now we're talking scale.
-
16:31 - 16:33Now we're talking the potential
for real change. -
16:35 - 16:38But it's never going to happen
by forcing these organizations -
16:38 - 16:40to lower their horizons
-
16:40 - 16:43to the demoralizing objective
of keeping their overhead low. -
16:45 - 16:48Our generation does not want
its epitaph to read, -
16:48 - 16:51"We kept charity overhead low."
-
16:51 - 16:55(Laughter)
-
16:55 - 16:59(Applause)
-
16:59 - 17:01We want it to read
that we changed the world, -
17:01 - 17:03and that part of the way we did that
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17:03 - 17:06was by changing the way
we think about these things. -
17:06 - 17:08So the next time
you're looking at a charity, -
17:08 - 17:11don't ask about the rate
of their overhead. -
17:11 - 17:13Ask about the scale of their dreams,
-
17:13 - 17:16their Apple-, Google-,
Amazon-scale dreams, -
17:16 - 17:19how they measure their progress
toward those dreams, -
17:19 - 17:22and what resources they need
to make them come true, -
17:22 - 17:23regardless of what the overhead is.
-
17:23 - 17:25Who cares what the overhead is
-
17:25 - 17:27if these problems
are actually getting solved? -
17:28 - 17:31If we can have that kind of generosity --
-
17:31 - 17:33a generosity of thought --
-
17:34 - 17:36then the non-profit sector
can play a massive role -
17:36 - 17:40in changing the world
for all those citizens -
17:40 - 17:42most desperately in need of it to change.
-
17:46 - 17:49And if that can be
our generation's enduring legacy -- -
17:51 - 17:54that we took responsibility
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17:54 - 17:56for the thinking that had
been handed down to us, -
17:56 - 17:59that we revisited it, we revised it,
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17:59 - 18:03and we reinvented the whole way
humanity thinks about changing things, -
18:03 - 18:06forever, for everyone --
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18:07 - 18:10well, I thought I would let
the kids sum up what that would be. -
18:11 - 18:13Annalisa Smith-Pallotta: That would be
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18:13 - 18:15Sage Smith-Pallotta: a real social
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18:15 - 18:17Rider Smith-Pallotta: innovation.
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18:17 - 18:19Dan Pallotta: Thank you very much.
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18:19 - 18:20Thank you.
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18:20 - 18:27(Applause)
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18:30 - 18:31Thank you.
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18:31 - 18:34(Applause)
- Title:
- The way we think about charity is dead wrong
- Speaker:
- Dan Pallotta
- Description:
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Activist and fundraiser Dan Pallotta calls out the double standard that drives our broken relationship to charities. Too many nonprofits, he says, are rewarded for how little they spend -- not for what they get done. Instead of equating frugality with morality, he asks us to start rewarding charities for their big goals and big accomplishments (even if that comes with big expenses). In this bold talk, he says: Let's change the way we think about changing the world.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 18:54
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for The way we think about charity is dead wrong | ||
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Krystian Aparta
The English transcript was updated on 6/25/2015.