His mosque was attacked. His answer was love. | Gamal Fouda | TEDxChristchurch
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0:16 - 0:20Kia ora! Shalom. Tēnā koutou.
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0:20 - 0:24Frieden. 和平 Hépíng. Shaanti. Pyeonghwa.
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0:25 - 0:28Hello everyone my name is Gamal Fouda.
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0:28 - 0:31I am the Imam, or the Religious Minister
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0:31 - 0:34at Deans Avenue mosque
in Christchurch, New Zealand. -
0:35 - 0:42I am honored to address you today, and it
is my pleasure to share with you my story -
0:43 - 0:47and my journey when I first
came to New Zealand in 2003. -
0:48 - 0:52I went to Al Azhar University
in Cairo, Egypt. -
0:52 - 0:58I studied Islamic Theology,
and graduated in 1998. -
0:59 - 1:04For two years, I worked as an Imam,
or Religious Minister -
1:05 - 1:09in the ministry of
Religious Affairs in Egypt. -
1:09 - 1:12Then the president of
the Muslim Association -
1:12 - 1:17of Greater Rockford in
Illinois in the USA, -
1:17 - 1:22came to know about me from a friend,
who visited the USA. -
1:23 - 1:29He called me in Egypt to see if
I will agree to become an Imam -
1:29 - 1:33in their mosque in Rockford.
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1:34 - 1:39The congregation of that
Islamic center interviewed me -
1:39 - 1:44after one of the Ramadan
night prayers in the USA time. -
1:44 - 1:47It was early morning in Egypt.
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1:48 - 1:53The interview went very well and
they decided to offer me the job. -
1:54 - 2:00Few days later, the president of
the association flew to Egypt -
2:00 - 2:04and came to my village to visit me
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2:04 - 2:07and we went together to the Minister
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2:08 - 2:16of the Religious Affairs in Egypt to
actually get the approval and finish -
2:16 - 2:21the process and probably
get a visa to the USA. -
2:22 - 2:29Unfortunately, this was directly after
September 11th attack on New York. -
2:29 - 2:32It was early 2002.
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2:32 - 2:36The Egyptian officials told us that
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2:36 - 2:41it is not safe to send such a
young man to the USA. -
2:42 - 2:47Instead, they said they were
going to send me to -
2:47 - 2:50one of the safest countries in the world.
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2:50 - 2:52It was New Zealand.
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2:53 - 2:56We all thought it would be safe.
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2:57 - 3:03I searched the internet about
New Zealand, and unexpectedly, -
3:03 - 3:06I found it in the bottom of the world.
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3:07 - 3:16Initially, I thought that it must be
close to Holland or Switzerland in Europe. -
3:17 - 3:23I got really disappointed because
I am going to be sent to a country -
3:23 - 3:30in the bottom of the world which is very,
very far away from my home country. -
3:32 - 3:37Anyway, I started the process of my
posting to New Zealand as an Imam -
3:38 - 3:43in Palmerston North, in the lower
North Island of New Zealand. -
3:44 - 3:48I arrived in Palmerston North
in January 2003. -
3:49 - 3:55It was really hard for me to start my job
there as an Imam who -
3:55 - 3:58needs to address people in English.
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3:58 - 4:05I did not have long experience enough to
understand the Western mentality -
4:05 - 4:08so that I can address people
in the right way. -
4:10 - 4:13There was something else which
made me very anxious. -
4:14 - 4:19It is the feeling that people assume
that Muslims are bad people. -
4:21 - 4:26This stereotyping was the norm
of the day for many people -
4:26 - 4:31in the world at that time,
especially after September 11. -
4:32 - 4:37Sadly, it is still the norm today.
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4:38 - 4:43I felt very frustrated and
anxious at the same time. -
4:44 - 4:48When I arrived in Palmerston North,
believe it or not, -
4:49 - 4:53I stayed in the mosque
for around 4 months! -
4:54 - 4:55I never went out.
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4:56 - 5:04Frankly speaking, I was so scared
to go out and meet people out there. -
5:04 - 5:10I was very frightened to walk in the
street wearing the Imam uniform -
5:11 - 5:18because people will recognize me
as a Muslim, and they might harm me. -
5:19 - 5:27After 2 months, I started to go out
of my room and cautiously stood -
5:27 - 5:30by the gate and read the Holy Quran.
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5:32 - 5:36Whenever I hear any noise of a
car coming towards the mosque, -
5:36 - 5:40I quickly run inside to save my life.
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5:42 - 5:46I thought that if someone recognizes me,
he would kill me instantly. -
5:49 - 5:51You might wonder how I got my food then.
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5:52 - 5:56Well, people from the mosque
used to do shopping for me, -
5:56 - 6:00and sometimes generously
cook food for me as well. -
6:02 - 6:07One day I said to myself let me wear
a shirt and trousers, -
6:07 - 6:11so that people can not
recognize me as Imam. -
6:12 - 6:21The first person I met in the street
approached me and said, “Hello, bro.” -
6:21 - 6:26I asked myself, "What is this man saying?"
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6:26 - 6:30Later on, I asked a person
in the mosque who -
6:30 - 6:37lived in New Zealand for quite some time
about what the man said, -
6:37 - 6:42and my friend told me that this
is a short form of, “Hello, brother.” -
6:43 - 6:50I said to myself, “This is nice. People
here must be very peaceful then…” -
6:51 - 6:53Ladies and gentlemen:
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6:54 - 6:58On the 15th of March, 2019,
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6:58 - 7:01a terrorist walked into our mosque
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7:02 - 7:04when I was delivering my Friday speech.
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7:06 - 7:10One of our worshippers went up
to the man and said, -
7:10 - 7:12“Hello, brother.”
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7:12 - 7:15The terrorist killed him in cold blood,
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7:16 - 7:19along with other 51 people.
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7:19 - 7:22He wounded 47 more.
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7:24 - 7:30On March 22nd, one week
after the 15th of March terror attack, -
7:31 - 7:36I addressed thousands
of people in Hagley Park, and said, -
7:37 - 7:42“Hate will not divide us,
and love will redeem us.” -
7:44 - 7:52A week later, I visited Berlin Wall
and the Checkpoint Charlie, which was -
7:52 - 7:59a crossing point between East Berlin and
West Berlin during the Cold War. -
8:00 - 8:06I paid a historic visit to the
biggest Synagogue in Berlin, -
8:07 - 8:11where I addressed some
students and preachers. -
8:12 - 8:19I told them that Muslims
and Jews are siblings to each other. -
8:20 - 8:24The Jews felt the pain of
discrimination by Nazis. -
8:25 - 8:34Now Muslims are passing through
the same path of agony and disgrace. -
8:35 - 8:43After September 11, when many countries
participated in the “War on Terror,” -
8:44 - 8:52Islam and Muslims have frequently
been treated as public enemies, -
8:53 - 8:59and hate speech against them
has been widely normalised. -
9:02 - 9:06People assume that Muslims
and Jews are enemies. -
9:08 - 9:09But we are not.
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9:10 - 9:18Judaism and Islam and Christianity
are religions from God, -
9:19 - 9:27and God told us to love each other,
and work together -
9:28 - 9:31for the benefit of the people around us.
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9:32 - 9:37Religion is there for people
to learn how to love. -
9:39 - 9:46It is not there to build a wall between
you and the people around you. -
9:48 - 9:55Islam as many other religions in our
world teaches us to love each other -
9:56 - 10:01and to care about each other
and for each other. -
10:02 - 10:10Any religion that teaches violence
is not from the true God. -
10:11 - 10:17Who created you and me,
because God loves us. -
10:18 - 10:20He created us.
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10:21 - 10:23He cares for us.
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10:24 - 10:26We are from him.
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10:27 - 10:29He is our Creator.
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10:30 - 10:33He gave us everything.
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10:34 - 10:42He gave us our hearts, our eyes,
the power, the abilities, -
10:42 - 10:44the health and wealth.
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10:45 - 10:48Everything we enjoy is from God.
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10:49 - 10:54And it is His wisdom to make us different
from each other -
10:55 - 11:03in colour, in language, and beliefs,
so that we can enjoy this Earth together. -
11:04 - 11:09If you want to be a doctor and I want
to be a doctor and everyone -
11:09 - 11:14wants to be a doctor, who is going
to be a teacher -
11:15 - 11:17or a builder or a hairdresser?
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11:18 - 11:22If everyone wants the same tomato,
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11:22 - 11:26we end up killing each other for a tomato!
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11:27 - 11:32But it’s up to us, we need
to make good choices. -
11:33 - 11:38To work with each other
and to cooperate with each other, -
11:38 - 11:41and to care for each other.
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11:43 - 11:51Though we are different but we can still
enjoy each other and love each other. -
11:52 - 11:58New Zealand and the New Zealanders
have set a role model for the world -
11:59 - 12:04to emulate in peace and
harmony among its people. -
12:06 - 12:13New Zealanders must retain
and strengthen this beautiful image. -
12:15 - 12:21We are very proud that we
are together, we are not broken. -
12:23 - 12:31We have taught the world how to
care for and love our people. -
12:35 - 12:42We still have lots of work to do to
eliminate racism in our country. -
12:43 - 12:44We are not angels.
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12:45 - 12:47We are not perfect.
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12:48 - 12:53There are people there who
still need more education -
12:53 - 12:58to learn how to tolerate others
and understand others, -
12:58 - 13:03and accept others who
are different to them. -
13:05 - 13:12In 2038, half of New Zealand
will be immigrants, -
13:13 - 13:23which means that one day, we will
probably have an immigrant Prime Minister. -
13:25 - 13:32I have moved from my home country
to New Zealand, and now this is my land. -
13:33 - 13:35It is my place.
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13:35 - 13:38It is the place of my family.
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13:38 - 13:41It is the place of my children.
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13:42 - 13:45It is my tūrangawaewae.
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13:47 - 13:49I love this soil.
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13:50 - 13:52I love this place.
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13:53 - 13:55I love these people.
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13:57 - 14:01I love us, because we are one.
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14:02 - 14:06Diversity is the superpower
of any nation. -
14:07 - 14:13When people love and care for each other,
the whole nation -
14:13 - 14:17will be very strong and powerful.
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14:19 - 14:25When we hate each other,
the nation becomes weak and shattered. -
14:27 - 14:32The prophet Muhammad said,
“The believers are like one body. -
14:33 - 14:38When any part aches,
the whole body will feel the pain.” -
14:39 - 14:45I believe that when any one of us aches,
we all feel the pain. -
14:47 - 14:52That is what happened
on the 15th of March. -
14:52 - 14:56The whole nation felt the pain.
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14:57 - 15:03It was an attack on all of us,
not only against Muslims. -
15:05 - 15:11The Honourable Pope Francis,
the head of the Catholic Church, -
15:12 - 15:15and sovereign of the Vatican City State.
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15:15 - 15:19Dr. Ahmad Al-Tayyeb,
the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar in Egypt, -
15:20 - 15:24is the head of the vast majority
of Muslims around the world. -
15:25 - 15:32They together signed a historic
document on Human Fraternity -
15:32 - 15:35for World Peace and Living Together.
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15:38 - 15:45In this document, they invited
all people of good will, -
15:46 - 15:54believers and non-believers,
to reconciliation and fraternity. -
15:55 - 16:06They appealed to every upright conscience
to reject violence and blind extremism. -
16:07 - 16:14They reminded us of the greatness of
faith in God that unites -
16:14 - 16:18divided hearts and
elevates the human soul. -
16:19 - 16:27And they declared that God has created us
to understand one another, -
16:28 - 16:35cooperate with one another, and live
as brothers and sisters -
16:35 - 16:37who love one another.
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16:39 - 16:43We have been through a
terrible thing in this country. -
16:44 - 16:48The only way we can heal
is to love one another, -
16:49 - 16:54and to continue the role model
we have set to the whole world. -
16:55 - 16:58Hate will not divide us
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16:59 - 17:02if love unites us.
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17:02 - 17:04Thank you.
- Title:
- His mosque was attacked. His answer was love. | Gamal Fouda | TEDxChristchurch
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On March 15th, 2019, a terrorist walked into a mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand, and started firing. He ultimately killed 52 people and wounded 47 more. In a talk overflowing with grace and dignity, Gamal Fouda, the Imam of that mosque, talks about his journey from Egypt to New Zealand, from student to Imam... and, ultimately, from fear to love. Gamal Fouda is the Imam of the Al Noor mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand, which was attacked by a white supremacist on March 15. 52 people died, including 44 from Al Noor.
A week after the event, Fouda led Friday prayers in Christchurch's Hagley Park, declaring that evil ideology will never triumph over love and unity.
He has since welcomed luminaries such as Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, Prince William, and United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres to the mosque, to discuss the Muslim community's response to the attacks and to hate speech.
Gamal’s work to unite religious communities started before the Christchurch attack; he has previously liaised with Martin Shulz and the German Social Democratic Party; the Grand Imam of Alazhar—the highest religious figure in the Muslim world; His Highness Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi; and the Secretary General of Muslim World League.
Gamal is originally from Egypt and moved to New Zealand in 2003. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
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