< Return to Video

Why winning doesn't always equal success

  • 0:01 - 0:03
    OK, I have a question for all of us.
  • 0:03 - 0:04
    You ready?
  • 0:05 - 0:07
    Is all winning success?
  • 0:09 - 0:10
    Oh.
  • 0:10 - 0:12
    (Laughter)
  • 0:12 - 0:14
    Whoa. OK.
  • 0:15 - 0:17
    I am the recently retired head coach
  • 0:17 - 0:20
    of the UCLA Women's Gymnastics Team,
  • 0:20 - 0:22
    a position that I held for 29 years.
  • 0:22 - 0:24
    (Applause)
  • 0:24 - 0:25
    Thank you.
  • 0:25 - 0:27
    And during my tenure,
  • 0:27 - 0:29
    I experienced a lot of winning.
  • 0:29 - 0:32
    I led our team to seven
    National Championships,
  • 0:32 - 0:35
    I was inducted into
    the UCLA Athletic Hall of Fame,
  • 0:35 - 0:38
    and I was even voted
    the Coach of the Century
  • 0:38 - 0:40
    by the Pac-12 Conference.
  • 0:40 - 0:42
    (Applause)
  • 0:42 - 0:46
    Winning is really, really,
  • 0:46 - 0:48
    like, really, really fun.
  • 0:48 - 0:50
    (Laughter)
  • 0:50 - 0:53
    But I am here to share my insight:
  • 0:53 - 0:55
    winning does not always equal success.
  • 0:56 - 0:59
    All across America and around the world,
  • 0:59 - 1:01
    we have a crisis
  • 1:01 - 1:03
    in the win-at-all-costs cultures
  • 1:04 - 1:05
    that we have created.
  • 1:06 - 1:08
    In our schools,
  • 1:08 - 1:10
    in our businesses, in politics,
  • 1:10 - 1:13
    winning at all costs
    has become acceptable.
  • 1:15 - 1:17
    As a society,
  • 1:17 - 1:20
    we honor the people
    at the top of the pyramid.
  • 1:20 - 1:26
    We effusively applaud those people who win
    championships and elections and awards.
  • 1:27 - 1:29
    But sadly, quite often,
  • 1:29 - 1:33
    those same people
    are leaving their institutions
  • 1:33 - 1:35
    as damaged human beings.
  • 1:36 - 1:38
    Sadly, with straight A's,
  • 1:38 - 1:41
    kids are leaving school damaged.
  • 1:42 - 1:44
    With awards and medals,
  • 1:44 - 1:50
    athletes often leave their teams damaged,
  • 1:50 - 1:52
    emotionally, mentally,
    not just physically.
  • 1:53 - 1:58
    And with huge profits, employees
    often leave their companies damaged.
  • 1:59 - 2:03
    We have become so hyperfocused
    on that end result,
  • 2:03 - 2:06
    and when the end result is a win,
  • 2:08 - 2:10
    the human component of how we got there
  • 2:10 - 2:14
    often gets swept under the proverbial rug,
  • 2:14 - 2:15
    and so does the damage.
  • 2:17 - 2:19
    So I'm calling for a time-out.
  • 2:19 - 2:20
    Time-out.
  • 2:21 - 2:23
    We need to redefine success.
  • 2:24 - 2:31
    Real success is developing
    champions in life for our world,
  • 2:31 - 2:33
    win or lose.
  • 2:35 - 2:39
    (Applause)
  • 2:40 - 2:44
    Real success is developing
    champions in life,
  • 2:44 - 2:45
    not for your team,
  • 2:45 - 2:47
    not for your business,
  • 2:47 - 2:51
    and, I'm sad to tell you, not even
    for your Christmas card bragging rights.
  • 2:52 - 2:54
    Sorry.
  • 2:54 - 2:55
    So how do we do this?
  • 2:56 - 3:00
    First of all, you may be able
    to dictate your way to a win,
  • 3:00 - 3:04
    but you can't dictate your way to success.
  • 3:05 - 3:09
    Let me take you back to 1990,
    when I was first appointed the head coach
  • 3:09 - 3:11
    of the UCLA Women's Gymnastics Team.
  • 3:11 - 3:15
    And I would like to share with you
    that I've never done gymnastics.
  • 3:15 - 3:17
    I grew up in the world of ballet.
  • 3:17 - 3:20
    I have never done a cartwheel,
  • 3:20 - 3:23
    and I couldn't teach you
    how to do a proper cartwheel.
  • 3:23 - 3:24
    (Laughter)
  • 3:24 - 3:25
    It's sadly true.
  • 3:25 - 3:31
    And I knew nothing about
    how to develop a team culture.
  • 3:31 - 3:35
    The best I could do was mimic
    other coaches who had won.
  • 3:36 - 3:38
    And so I became tough-talking,
  • 3:38 - 3:40
    tough-minded, relentless,
  • 3:41 - 3:43
    unsympathetic,
  • 3:43 - 3:45
    bullish, unempathetic
  • 3:46 - 3:49
    and oftentimes downright mean.
  • 3:50 - 3:54
    I acted like a head coach
  • 3:54 - 3:57
    whose only thought
    was to figure out how to win.
  • 4:00 - 4:01
    My first few seasons as a head coach
  • 4:01 - 4:03
    were abysmal,
  • 4:03 - 4:07
    and after putting up with
    my brash coaching style for a few years,
  • 4:07 - 4:09
    our team asked me for a team meeting.
  • 4:09 - 4:11
    Well, I love team meetings,
  • 4:11 - 4:13
    so I said, "Yay!
    Let's have a team meeting."
  • 4:13 - 4:16
    And for two solid hours,
  • 4:16 - 4:22
    they gave me examples of how my arrogance
    was hurtful and demeaning.
  • 4:23 - 4:24
    Yeah, not yay.
  • 4:26 - 4:27
    They explained to me
  • 4:27 - 4:29
    that they wanted to be supported,
  • 4:29 - 4:31
    not belittled.
  • 4:31 - 4:33
    They wanted to be
    coached up, not torn down.
  • 4:33 - 4:36
    They wanted to be motivated,
  • 4:36 - 4:38
    not pressured or bullied.
  • 4:39 - 4:41
    That was my time-out,
  • 4:42 - 4:44
    and I chose to change.
  • 4:46 - 4:49
    Being a dogmatic dictator
  • 4:49 - 4:53
    may produce compliant,
    good little soldiers,
  • 4:53 - 4:55
    but it doesn't develop champions in life.
  • 4:56 - 5:00
    It is so much easier in any walk of life
  • 5:00 - 5:03
    to dictate and give orders
  • 5:03 - 5:06
    than to actually figure out
    how to motivate someone
  • 5:07 - 5:09
    to want to be better.
  • 5:09 - 5:11
    And the reason is -- we all know this --
  • 5:11 - 5:14
    motivation takes a really long time
  • 5:14 - 5:15
    to take root.
  • 5:16 - 5:18
    But when it does,
  • 5:18 - 5:20
    it is character-building
  • 5:20 - 5:22
    and life-altering.
  • 5:22 - 5:27
    I realized that I needed
    to fortify our student-athletes
  • 5:27 - 5:29
    as whole human beings,
  • 5:30 - 5:32
    not just athletes who won.
  • 5:32 - 5:35
    So success for me shifted
  • 5:35 - 5:37
    from only focusing on winning
  • 5:38 - 5:40
    to developing my coaching philosophy,
  • 5:40 - 5:45
    which is developing champions
    in life through sport.
  • 5:46 - 5:48
    And I knew if I did this well enough,
  • 5:48 - 5:51
    that champion mentality would translate
    to the competition floor.
  • 5:52 - 5:53
    And it did.
  • 5:54 - 5:57
    The key ingredient was to develop trust
  • 5:58 - 6:00
    through patience,
  • 6:01 - 6:02
    respectful honesty
  • 6:04 - 6:05
    and accountability --
  • 6:06 - 6:09
    all of the ingredients
    that go into tough love.
  • 6:11 - 6:13
    Speaking of tough love,
  • 6:13 - 6:16
    Katelyn Ohashi is
    a perfect example of this.
  • 6:16 - 6:18
    You may have all seen her floor routine.
  • 6:18 - 6:22
    It has had over 150 million views.
  • 6:23 - 6:27
    And the consensus is,
    her performance is pure joy.
  • 6:27 - 6:33
    However, when Katelyn came to UCLA,
    she was broken in body, mind and spirit.
  • 6:34 - 6:39
    She had grown up in a stereotypical,
    very high-level athletic world,
  • 6:40 - 6:42
    and she was damaged.
  • 6:43 - 6:46
    So when Katelyn came
    to UCLA her freshman year,
  • 6:46 - 6:49
    she found her inner rebel quite well,
  • 6:50 - 6:53
    to the point where she was
    no longer able to do gymnastics
  • 6:53 - 6:55
    at the level at which she was recruited.
  • 6:55 - 6:58
    And I will never forget
  • 6:58 - 7:01
    a team meeting we had
    halfway through her freshman season.
  • 7:01 - 7:04
    We were in there with the team,
    the coaching staff, the support staff,
  • 7:04 - 7:06
    sports psychologist,
  • 7:06 - 7:11
    and Katelyn very clearly
    and unapologetically said,
  • 7:12 - 7:14
    "I just don't want to be great again."
  • 7:17 - 7:18
    I felt like I got sucker punched.
  • 7:20 - 7:22
    My first thought was,
  • 7:22 - 7:26
    'Then why the heck am I
    going to honor your scholarship?"
  • 7:27 - 7:31
    It was a really snarky thought,
    and thankfully I didn't say it out loud,
  • 7:31 - 7:34
    because then I had clarity.
  • 7:34 - 7:37
    Katelyn didn't hate gymnastics.
  • 7:37 - 7:41
    Katelyn hated everything
    associated with being great.
  • 7:41 - 7:44
    Katelyn didn't want to be a winner,
  • 7:44 - 7:48
    because winning at all costs
    had cost her her joy.
  • 7:50 - 7:54
    My job was to figure out
    how to motivate her
  • 7:54 - 7:56
    to want to be great again,
  • 7:57 - 8:00
    by helping her redefine success.
  • 8:03 - 8:06
    My enthusiasm for that challenge
    turned into determination
  • 8:06 - 8:10
    when one day Katelyn
    looked me in the eye and said,
  • 8:10 - 8:12
    "Ms. Val, I just want you to know,
  • 8:12 - 8:15
    everything you tell me to do,
    I do the exact opposite."
  • 8:15 - 8:18
    (Laughter)
  • 8:18 - 8:21
    Yeah, it was like, yeah, Katelyn,
    challenge accepted. OK.
  • 8:21 - 8:22
    (Laughter)
  • 8:23 - 8:27
    And further proof that dictating
    was not going to win.
  • 8:27 - 8:30
    So I embarked on
    the painfully slow process
  • 8:30 - 8:32
    of building trust
  • 8:32 - 8:35
    and proving to her that first and foremost
  • 8:35 - 8:38
    I cared about her as a whole human being.
  • 8:41 - 8:45
    Part of my strategy was to only talk
    to Katelyn about gymnastics in the gym.
  • 8:46 - 8:48
    Outside of the gym,
    we talked about everything else:
  • 8:48 - 8:51
    school, boys, families,
    friends, hobbies.
  • 8:51 - 8:55
    I encouraged her to find things
    outside of her sport that brought her joy.
  • 8:56 - 8:59
    And it was so cool
  • 8:59 - 9:05
    to see the process of Katelyn Ohashi
    literally blossom before our eyes.
  • 9:06 - 9:08
    And through that process,
  • 9:08 - 9:12
    she rediscovered her self-love
  • 9:12 - 9:13
    and self-worth.
  • 9:15 - 9:19
    And slowly, she was able to bring that joy
  • 9:19 - 9:21
    back to her gymnastics.
  • 9:23 - 9:27
    She went on to earn
    the NCAA title on floor,
  • 9:27 - 9:31
    and she helped our team win
    our seventh NCAA championship in 2018.
  • 9:33 - 9:34
    So -- thank you.
  • 9:34 - 9:37
    (Applause)
  • 9:39 - 9:42
    So let's think about
    the Katelyn Ohashis in your life.
  • 9:43 - 9:47
    Let's think about those people
    under your care and your guidance.
  • 9:48 - 9:51
    What are you telling your kids
    on the car ride home?
  • 9:53 - 9:55
    That car ride home
  • 9:55 - 9:58
    has much more impact than you know.
  • 10:00 - 10:02
    Are you focusing on the end result,
  • 10:03 - 10:05
    or are you excited to use that time
  • 10:05 - 10:07
    to help your child
    develop into a champion?
  • 10:08 - 10:09
    It's very simple:
  • 10:09 - 10:11
    you will know you're focusing
    on the end result
  • 10:11 - 10:14
    if you ask questions about the end result.
  • 10:14 - 10:15
    "Did you win?"
  • 10:16 - 10:18
    "How many points did you score?"
  • 10:18 - 10:20
    "Did you get an A?"
  • 10:22 - 10:28
    If you truly are motivated about helping
    your child develop into a champion,
  • 10:28 - 10:31
    you will ask questions
    about the experience
  • 10:31 - 10:32
    and the process,
  • 10:32 - 10:34
    like, "What did you learn today?"
  • 10:35 - 10:37
    "Did you help a teammate?"
  • 10:38 - 10:40
    And, my favorite question,
  • 10:40 - 10:43
    "Did you figure out how to have fun
    at working really, really hard?"
  • 10:45 - 10:49
    And then the key is to be very still
  • 10:49 - 10:51
    and listen to their response.
  • 10:53 - 10:57
    I believe that one of the greatest gifts
    we can give another human being
  • 10:57 - 11:00
    is to silence our minds
  • 11:00 - 11:02
    from the need to be right
  • 11:02 - 11:05
    or the need to formulate
    the appropriate response
  • 11:05 - 11:07
    and truly listen
  • 11:07 - 11:09
    when someone else is talking.
  • 11:10 - 11:12
    And in silencing our minds,
  • 11:12 - 11:17
    we actually hear our own fears
    and inadequacies,
  • 11:17 - 11:20
    which can help us formulate our response
  • 11:20 - 11:23
    with more clarity and empathy.
  • 11:26 - 11:28
    Kyla Ross, another one of our gymnasts,
  • 11:28 - 11:31
    is one of the greatest gymnasts
    in the history of the sport.
  • 11:31 - 11:34
    She is the only athlete
    to have earned the trifecta:
  • 11:34 - 11:36
    she's a national champion,
  • 11:36 - 11:38
    a world champion
  • 11:38 - 11:40
    and an Olympic champion.
  • 11:40 - 11:43
    She's also not one for small talk,
  • 11:43 - 11:46
    so I was a bit surprised one day
    when she came to my office,
  • 11:46 - 11:47
    sat on the couch
  • 11:47 - 11:49
    and just started talking --
  • 11:49 - 11:51
    first about her major,
  • 11:51 - 11:53
    then about graduate school
  • 11:53 - 11:57
    and then about everything else
    that seemed to pop into her mind.
  • 11:57 - 12:01
    My inner voice whispered to me
  • 12:01 - 12:03
    that something was on her mind,
  • 12:03 - 12:05
    and if I was still
  • 12:05 - 12:07
    and gave her enough time,
  • 12:07 - 12:09
    it would come out.
  • 12:10 - 12:11
    And it did.
  • 12:13 - 12:16
    It was the first time that Kyla
    had shared with anyone
  • 12:18 - 12:21
    that she had been
    sexually abused by Larry Nassar,
  • 12:22 - 12:25
    the former USA Gymnastics team doctor
  • 12:25 - 12:29
    who was later convicted
    of being a serial child molester.
  • 12:32 - 12:34
    Kyla came forward
  • 12:34 - 12:36
    and joined the army
  • 12:36 - 12:37
    of Nassar survivors
  • 12:38 - 12:41
    who shared their stories
  • 12:41 - 12:42
    and used their voices
  • 12:43 - 12:47
    to invoke positive change for our world.
  • 12:50 - 12:53
    I felt it was extremely
    important at that time
  • 12:53 - 12:56
    to provide a safe space
    for Kyla and our team.
  • 12:57 - 13:01
    And so I chose to talk about this
    in a few team meetings.
  • 13:04 - 13:07
    Later that year, we won
    the national championship,
  • 13:07 - 13:10
    and after we did, Kyla came up to me
    and shared with me the fact
  • 13:10 - 13:13
    that she felt one reason that we'd won
  • 13:13 - 13:16
    was because we had addressed
    the elephant in the room,
  • 13:16 - 13:20
    the tragedy that had
    not only rocked the world
  • 13:20 - 13:25
    but that had liberated the truths
    and the memories in herself
  • 13:25 - 13:27
    and in so many of her friends
  • 13:27 - 13:30
    and her peers.
  • 13:31 - 13:33
    As Kyla said,
  • 13:33 - 13:36
    "Ms. Val, I literally felt myself
    walk taller as the season went on,
  • 13:38 - 13:41
    and when I walked onto that
    championship floor, I felt invincible."
  • 13:42 - 13:44
    Simply because she had been heard.
  • 13:47 - 13:50
    As parents, as coaches,
  • 13:50 - 13:52
    as leaders,
  • 13:52 - 13:55
    we can no longer lead from a place
  • 13:56 - 14:00
    where winning is
    our only metric of success,
  • 14:00 - 14:04
    where our ego sits center stage,
  • 14:04 - 14:05
    because it has been proven
  • 14:05 - 14:09
    that that process produces
    broken human beings.
  • 14:09 - 14:12
    And I emphatically know
  • 14:12 - 14:14
    that it is absolutely possible
  • 14:14 - 14:17
    to produce and train champions in life
  • 14:17 - 14:20
    in every single walk of life
  • 14:20 - 14:23
    without compromising the human spirit.
  • 14:25 - 14:29
    (Applause)
  • 14:32 - 14:35
    It starts with defining success
  • 14:35 - 14:39
    for yourself and those under your care
  • 14:40 - 14:43
    and then consistently
  • 14:43 - 14:48
    self-examining whether your actions
    are in alignment with your goals.
  • 14:50 - 14:53
    We are all coaches in some capacity.
  • 14:54 - 14:58
    We all have a collective responsibility
  • 14:58 - 15:02
    to develop champions
    in life for our world.
  • 15:03 - 15:06
    That is what real success looks like,
  • 15:07 - 15:08
    and in the world of athletics,
  • 15:09 - 15:12
    that is what we call a win-win.
  • 15:12 - 15:13
    Thank you.
  • 15:13 - 15:16
    (Applause)
Title:
Why winning doesn't always equal success
Speaker:
Valorie Kondos Field
Description:

more » « less
Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
15:30

English subtitles

Revisions Compare revisions