The Rise of Superstar Firms and the Fall of the Labor Share (David Autor, MIT)
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0:00 - 0:02- [David Autor] People see
this phenomenon -- -
0:02 - 0:05this falling share of income,
rise of these super-competent firms -- -
0:05 - 0:07as kind of one of the first horsemen
of the Apocalypse, -
0:07 - 0:12the sign that we are entering
an era where labor relevance -
0:12 - 0:16to the production side of the economy
will become smaller and smaller -
0:16 - 0:18and eventually asymptote to zero.
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0:19 - 0:23♪ [music] ♪
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0:32 - 0:34♪ [music] ♪
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0:39 - 0:45Labor's share of national income
has been falling, pretty steeply, -
0:45 - 0:47since around 2000.
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0:47 - 0:51It means that labor is getting
a smaller share of the pie, -
0:51 - 0:53and the pie isn't growing
very rapidly at present. -
0:53 - 0:56And that is a potential problem
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0:56 - 0:59because it's not that that money
then goes away -- -
0:59 - 1:00it goes to owners of capital --
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1:00 - 1:05but ownership of capital investment
is far, far more concentrated -
1:05 - 1:07than ownership of labor.
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1:07 - 1:09We'd like to know why it's happening
and how far it's going to go. -
1:11 - 1:15So there are three prominent theories
about why labor's share is falling. -
1:15 - 1:20One theory is that you just have a lot
of technology substituting for labor. -
1:20 - 1:22So, everywhere you look,
machines are doing things -
1:22 - 1:24that people used to do.
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1:24 - 1:25In fact, that would be
the kind of simple -
1:25 - 1:27capital labor substitution story.
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1:27 - 1:31A second story would have to do
with failure of competition, -
1:31 - 1:33that firms are getting
market power -- -
1:33 - 1:36meaning they don't have
very robust competition. -
1:36 - 1:38That allows them to raise prices,
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1:38 - 1:40and the profits may not
be paid to workers -
1:40 - 1:41but they'll be paid to owners.
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1:42 - 1:46A third story is that the nature
of competition is changing -
1:46 - 1:49in a way that is favoring
more productive firms. -
1:49 - 1:52There is this idea out there --
superstar firms, -
1:52 - 1:57these firms that are
highly productive, highly capable, -
1:57 - 2:02that's causing the economic activity
to reallocate from smaller, -
2:02 - 2:06less productive firms
to larger, more productive firms, -
2:06 - 2:09many of which historically
are more capital intensive -
2:09 - 2:11and have lower labor share.
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2:12 - 2:15Some superstar firms in the US? --
Well, maybe you would say Amazon, -
2:15 - 2:18Walmart, Apple.
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2:18 - 2:20If you think about
the rise of Walmart -- -
2:20 - 2:22Walmart was a platform competitor.
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2:22 - 2:25It didn't just have nice stores --
In fact they're not that nice -- -
2:25 - 2:28What it had was supply chains
that ran all the way into China. -
2:28 - 2:30It had the world's most sophisticated
distribution system. -
2:30 - 2:32It had incredible
inventory tracking. -
2:33 - 2:37You could argue that Walmart
had no close competitors -
2:37 - 2:39until Amazon arose.
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2:39 - 2:42And notice Amazon
didn't imitate Walmart's platform, -
2:42 - 2:44it created another platform
to compete with it. -
2:45 - 2:48So, many of these superstar firms --
they have some platform -
2:48 - 2:52that allows them
to ward off competition -
2:52 - 2:55and produce differently,
in a specialized way. -
2:55 - 2:58So those are three classes
of explanations, so just to be clear: -
2:58 - 2:59One, technology everywhere.
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2:59 - 3:01Two, failure of competition.
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3:01 - 3:03And then third is
this superstar form of competition -
3:03 - 3:05which is not, per se, a failure.
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3:05 - 3:09In fact, it could even reflect
better competition of sorts. -
3:09 - 3:10So, which one is true?
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3:16 - 3:18I don't think the evidence
for that is as strong. -
3:18 - 3:20Definitely we see examples
of firms adopting technologies -
3:20 - 3:22and reducing labor input.
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3:22 - 3:25We see that in manufacturing.
We see that with robotics. -
3:25 - 3:27It's a real phenomenon.
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3:27 - 3:29It's not clear that's happening
everywhere else. -
3:29 - 3:32Automation is having big effects
on labor, let me be clear, -
3:32 - 3:35but they may not be in terms
of reducing labor's share -
3:35 - 3:36of national income.
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3:36 - 3:39It may be affecting the type
of jobs that are being offered. -
3:47 - 3:50It's absolutely the case that
we also have failures of competition. -
3:50 - 3:53Not, per se, in Walmart --
I think that's fine -- -
3:53 - 3:56but US airlines,
US mobile phone carriers, -
3:56 - 3:58US cable operators --
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3:58 - 4:01bad antitrust policy
allowing market concentration -
4:01 - 4:04that causes those firms
to charge prices -
4:04 - 4:06that are too high
in excess of costs, -
4:06 - 4:08and that will typically
cause labor share to fall. -
4:09 - 4:14If regulatory failure is the cause
of labor's falling share, -
4:14 - 4:17you would expect that to vary
across countries a great deal, -
4:17 - 4:19because countries have
different regulatory bodies. -
4:20 - 4:23The fact that this has occurred
so pervasively -
4:23 - 4:28makes many people suspect
it can't just be regulation. -
4:31 - 4:34The third hypothesis,
the superstar hypothesis, -
4:34 - 4:36there's also evidence for,
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4:36 - 4:39and we know that the rise
of some of these superstar firms -
4:39 - 4:43has coincided with a fall
in labor's share of national income. -
4:43 - 4:46And what we see is
a reallocation of economic activity -
4:46 - 4:50from smaller firms
with larger labor shares -
4:50 - 4:55to larger, more productive firms
that have lower labor share. -
4:55 - 4:56And what's interesting is
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4:56 - 4:58we don't see a reallocation
of employment. -
4:58 - 5:01It's not that all the workers
are going to work for the big firms, -
5:01 - 5:04it's that those big firms
are able to supply more customers. -
5:04 - 5:06They call it "scale without mass" --
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5:06 - 5:08firms that have tons of market share,
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5:08 - 5:10tons of revenue,
and very few employees. -
5:10 - 5:13So I think all three hypotheses
are worth your entertaining, -
5:13 - 5:15and if anyone tells you
only one is correct, -
5:15 - 5:17they're kind of
overstating their case. -
5:20 - 5:23The assumption is hey,
you're born with some capacities, -
5:23 - 5:26with some basic physical skills,
cognitive skills. -
5:26 - 5:28You invest in those capacities
through school. -
5:28 - 5:30You build human capital.
You build expertise. -
5:30 - 5:32And then you leave school
and you sell that capacity, -
5:32 - 5:35that expertise, to the market
for 30, 35 years, -
5:35 - 5:36and then you retire.
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5:36 - 5:38If we entered a period
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5:38 - 5:41where labor's share
of national income was very low -- -
5:41 - 5:42meaning labor
was no longer scarce -- -
5:42 - 5:44we would still have lots of wealth.
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5:44 - 5:46But we wouldn't have
a very good means of distributing it. -
5:46 - 5:49We wouldn't know
who had what claims on it. -
5:49 - 5:53And that's not
a very attractive vision -
5:53 - 5:55of a market economy.
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5:55 - 5:59I'm optimistic that the future of work
will involve lots of work, -
5:59 - 6:01that we will not
be running out of jobs. -
6:01 - 6:05We have -- despite 200 years
of incredibly rapid automation -
6:05 - 6:06we have not
made ourselves irrelevant. -
6:06 - 6:08We've just changed
the type of work we do. -
6:08 - 6:10I have enormous faith
in human creativity. -
6:10 - 6:12We always find
more interesting things to do -
6:12 - 6:15with our time,
and the tools that we create -
6:15 - 6:18create possibilities
that we don't foresee. -
6:18 - 6:21So there will be a world
of interesting work to do. -
6:21 - 6:24The challenge we face
is making sure -
6:24 - 6:25people have the skills
and qualifications -
6:25 - 6:27to be able to do that good work.
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- Title:
- The Rise of Superstar Firms and the Fall of the Labor Share (David Autor, MIT)
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The “labor share” of GDP has fallen since 2000. Is this another sign that the robots are going to rule our economy? David Autor, an economics professor at MIT, explains the differing explanations for why this is happening.
The “labor share” of GDP means the share going to wages, salaries and benefits—as opposed to going to capital (stockholders, business owners, etc.). That money hasn’t gone away, but it has been concentrated in the hands of fewer and fewer people.
Why is this happening? Is it because of robots taking work from humans? A lack of competition? Or something else? David Autor explains the answers he discovered in his 2019 study on labor share and superstar firms.
This video is based on the paper:
The Fall of the Labor Share and the Rise of Superstar Firms by David Autor, David Dorn, Lawrence F. Katz, Christina Patterson, and John Van Reenen. https://economics.mit.edu/files/12979More of David Autor’s work: https://economics.mit.edu/faculty/dauto
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