How I fled from slavery | Manoel Cunha | TEDxAmazônia
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0:17 - 0:20Good afternoon, everyone.
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0:22 - 0:23That's feeble.
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0:23 - 0:25You probably didn’t eat much at lunch.
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0:25 - 0:27(Chuckling)
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0:30 - 0:35First of all, thanks for the invitation
from my comrade, Denis. -
0:35 - 0:39He said he'd be on vacation,
but he's probably here in the audience. -
0:39 - 0:43Thanks, otherwise I wouldn't
have had this chance -
0:44 - 0:47to tell a bit about my story.
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0:47 - 0:51I see me as the thousands of extractivists
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0:51 - 0:55who are underneath
the layers of the forest. -
0:56 - 0:58I wouldn't have this opportunity, Denis,
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0:58 - 1:01to talk to such an important audience
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1:01 - 1:04in such an important moment
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1:04 - 1:08when everyone is working together
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1:08 - 1:13to create a better
and fairer world for all, -
1:13 - 1:15because we deserve it.
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1:17 - 1:21As was already mentioned,
I'm Manoel Cunha, -
1:21 - 1:26from the town of Carauari
in the state of Amazonas, -
1:26 - 1:32about 700-750 km from here
as a crow flies. -
1:32 - 1:36It takes much longer by river.
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1:37 - 1:40I was born on March the 2nd, 1968.
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1:40 - 1:42I'm not that old,
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1:42 - 1:48but I know much about a sad story,
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1:48 - 1:51a sad and old story
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1:51 - 1:54that disrupted the lives of people.
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1:55 - 1:58Many interesting things
have happened in my life -
1:58 - 2:02that I'd like to share with you.
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2:03 - 2:06We're 14 siblings at home,
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2:07 - 2:11raised by an old man called Joaquim Cunha.
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2:11 - 2:15We didn't have many opportunities in life
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2:15 - 2:17and one we didn't have was to study.
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2:19 - 2:23At that time
- going straight to the point - -
2:23 - 2:28the bosses didn't want
the rubber tappers' kids to study. -
2:28 - 2:35They said that you didn't need
to study to tap rubber. -
2:35 - 2:40We never imagined
that they didn't want us to study -
2:40 - 2:44so as not to turn the tables on them.
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2:44 - 2:46We thought they were actually right -
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2:46 - 2:51that to tap rubber
you didn't need any schooling. -
2:51 - 2:54Then, when I was 11,
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2:54 - 2:58as I was preparing myself
to accompany my father -
2:58 - 3:00to help him tap rubber,
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3:00 - 3:05a neighbor of my boss managed
to arrange a school for us. -
3:06 - 3:13It wasn't a proper school,
but permission for the boss' wife -
3:13 - 3:16to teach the people
who lived in the country. -
3:17 - 3:21It took us about an hour
and a half to get there by canoe, -
3:21 - 3:26as our comrade from the Saúde
e Alegria project showed very well. -
3:26 - 3:29Despite this, my dad made
a very important decision -
3:29 - 3:31for his and our lives:
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3:31 - 3:34he sent two of my sisters to school
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3:34 - 3:39to learn how to read and write
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3:39 - 3:42so they could then teach us at home.
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3:42 - 3:44We couldn't go to school
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3:44 - 3:46because we needed
to go on the rubber trail. -
3:46 - 3:49The teacher took pity on them
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3:49 - 3:54and allowed them to go to school
only three days a week, -
3:54 - 3:56and would set them homework
on the other two days. -
3:56 - 4:00Because I was really keen
on learning to read and write, -
4:00 - 4:03I managed to learn from them
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4:03 - 4:06when they got together
to do their homework. -
4:06 - 4:13That was the only way I learned
to just read and write. -
4:13 - 4:16That is where my whole life started.
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4:16 - 4:19But I started working
in rubber production, -
4:19 - 4:23in that degrading way of life.
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4:23 - 4:25I still remember
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4:25 - 4:29one year when Dad had some health problem
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4:29 - 4:35and only managed to go
to the rubber forest in October. -
4:35 - 4:40Our summer goes from July to December.
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4:41 - 4:44That year, my father
arrived there in October -
4:44 - 4:47with only two months left in that year.
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4:47 - 4:51The boss had a rule:
on the 31st of December -
4:51 - 4:53we had to clear away
all the cups from the forest. -
4:53 - 4:58With all the cups taken down
we couldn't extract any more rubber. -
4:58 - 5:01Dad had to follow that rule
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5:01 - 5:06and we were harder off than ever before.
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5:07 - 5:12There were countless humiliations.
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5:12 - 5:17For example,
if we fished in Mandioca lake, -
5:17 - 5:21in the São Romão
rubber forest, where I lived. -
5:21 - 5:28The boss only let us fish there
after the 1st of August, for example. -
5:28 - 5:31To fish for your livelihood
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5:31 - 5:34on that lake before that date,
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5:34 - 5:37was reason for you to lose your place.
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5:37 - 5:42To lose your place in that region
was to almost lose your life -
5:42 - 5:47because all the rubber tapping
places were taken -
5:47 - 5:50and there were none left.
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5:50 - 5:53We'd put up with the humiliations
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5:53 - 5:55so as not to lose our place.
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5:55 - 5:59Fishing where it was not authorized
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5:59 - 6:04was also a reason to lose your place.
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6:04 - 6:07In our work system
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6:07 - 6:09we didn't know
the sale price of the product -
6:09 - 6:12nor the purchase price of goods.
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6:12 - 6:14At the end of the year,
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6:14 - 6:17we'd only hear a deep voice
from behind the counter, saying, -
6:17 - 6:21"You're in debt, you need
to produce more rubber next year." -
6:22 - 6:25We started to realize
that the more we produced, -
6:25 - 6:27the more we owed,
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6:27 - 6:30so we had to produce more
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6:30 - 6:34to made him richer,
as all the profit was his. -
6:34 - 6:37Then I and many others
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6:37 - 6:40- I'm speaking here on behalf of many -
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6:40 - 6:42started to rebel against that
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6:42 - 6:43and to consider that as wrong.
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6:43 - 6:45But we couldn't do it differently.
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6:47 - 6:49I was already grown up then,
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6:49 - 6:52married and a father of three children.
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6:52 - 6:58This is how I had lived
up to the age of 24, -
6:58 - 7:01I had only known 14 beaches on a river,
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7:01 - 7:05the equivalent of 40 minutes
by a 40 HP motorboat. -
7:05 - 7:08My whole life was determined
by that place. -
7:08 - 7:10I'd never had any other opportunity,
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7:10 - 7:13no one ever said
anything else was possible, -
7:13 - 7:19that it was possible to change the region,
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7:19 - 7:23to change someone's way of producing.
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7:24 - 7:28But one day, around May,
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7:28 - 7:31we heard an announcement on the radio
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7:31 - 7:36from an institution called MEB,
Basic Education Movement, -
7:36 - 7:38linked to the Catholic Church,
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7:38 - 7:43that would organize things
for the rubber tappers. -
7:43 - 7:45And we waited,
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7:45 - 7:48and one night, at about 8 p.m.
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7:48 - 7:51they went to my father's house
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7:51 - 7:56and spoke about how it was possible
to live a different way. -
7:56 - 8:00I remember to this day people saying,
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8:00 - 8:03"You rubber tappers
can organize yourselves, -
8:03 - 8:06those at the top,
the bottom and the middle, -
8:06 - 8:08and form a community.
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8:08 - 8:13Then you'll be strong enough
to demand a school, a health center, -
8:13 - 8:15and your kids will be able to study.
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8:15 - 8:19What's most interesting
is that the communities down the river, -
8:19 - 8:21the ones closest to the town,
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8:21 - 8:24are already organizing an association.
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8:25 - 8:29The goal is to sell our own products
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8:29 - 8:32through our organizations
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8:32 - 8:37and get rid of the criminal
system of these bosses." -
8:37 - 8:42I think that was
the happiest day of my life, -
8:42 - 8:46because I realized
that there was another way, -
8:46 - 8:49a different way of living,
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8:49 - 8:51and of living with dignity.
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8:51 - 8:53That's how the whole battle started.
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8:53 - 9:00So I'll skip ahead to 1997
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9:00 - 9:04when we managed to create
the first extractivist reserve -
9:04 - 9:05in the state of Amazonas,
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9:05 - 9:09there in my community, in Middle Juruá.
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9:09 - 9:11(Applause)
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9:17 - 9:20Today, those same people
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9:20 - 9:24who were so humiliated,
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9:24 - 9:26as I tried to explain here,
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9:26 - 9:30this association has grown
and organized itself. -
9:30 - 9:33From individual rubber tappers
of the São Romão rubber forest -
9:33 - 9:36we've become a community
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9:36 - 9:40and I became its leader
and a teacher as well. -
9:40 - 9:42Interestingly, I have
never been a student, -
9:42 - 9:46but I was a teacher
in my community for four years. -
9:46 - 9:48And with a difference:
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9:48 - 9:54I always saw beyond
the three Rs in education, -
9:54 - 10:01I saw it as a mechanism, a path, a beacon
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10:01 - 10:03for the transformation of a society.
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10:03 - 10:09I tried to show this to the youngsters
and adults that I started to teach. -
10:09 - 10:13I think that today,
without discriminating any region, -
10:13 - 10:18one of the regions with
the greatest number of community leaders -
10:18 - 10:20is the community of São Raimundo,
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10:20 - 10:23especially the Middle Juruá
extractivist reserve. -
10:23 - 10:26Maybe I've been part of this story
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10:26 - 10:30by my different method of teaching,
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10:30 - 10:34preparing them to face everyday problems.
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10:35 - 10:38In these communities,
- coming back to the present day - -
10:38 - 10:41looking at the way we lived,
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10:41 - 10:46today we sell all the production
through the association -
10:46 - 10:50or the cooperative,
directly to the consumers. -
10:50 - 10:54When our fellow speaker
from Natura company did her presentation -
10:54 - 10:57one of the points
she mentioned was Middle Juruá. -
10:57 - 11:03The Middle Juruá communities
supply about 15 to 20 tons -
11:03 - 11:08of vegetable oil directly to Cognis,
in Jacareí, São Paulo. -
11:08 - 11:12It goes from the factory tap
inside the extractivist reserve, -
11:12 - 11:14to Jacareí, São Paulo,
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11:14 - 11:19so that Cognis can process it
and then deliver to Natura. -
11:19 - 11:22The rubber produced by those communities
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11:22 - 11:25would either go to Sena Madureira in Acre,
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11:25 - 11:27where there was a processing plant,
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11:27 - 11:32or to Manicoré, in the state of Amazonas.
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11:32 - 11:35The meal left over
from the family production -
11:35 - 11:41is sold at the counter
of the association itself, in the town. -
11:41 - 11:43The products, the other products,
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11:43 - 11:46- brooms, oars, handicrafts -
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11:46 - 11:50all products are sold directly
to the consumer, -
11:50 - 11:53or to those who do the final processing,
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11:53 - 11:57as in the case of Natura,
which turns the oils into cosmetics. -
11:57 - 11:58What's interesting is that
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11:58 - 12:02in that period of our lives,
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12:02 - 12:05for much of my life I only had two shirts
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12:05 - 12:08and I had to hope for sunshine
to dry one of them -
12:08 - 12:10so I could put it on when I got home,
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12:10 - 12:12because one we wore at work
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12:12 - 12:15and the other our mother would wash
on the washing board. -
12:15 - 12:20Today, people lead a dignified life
inside this reserve. -
12:20 - 12:25And this reserve has helped to create
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12:25 - 12:29more than a dozen
other conservation units. -
12:29 - 12:32When people give talks
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12:32 - 12:35to organize the communities
to create protected areas, -
12:35 - 12:38they always cite
Middle Juruá as an example -
12:38 - 12:41of a region that got rid of
its slavery conditions -
12:41 - 12:44and which today is totally independent,
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12:44 - 12:48a very strong and well-organized movement.
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12:48 - 12:52Recently, we implemented
the Riverside Solidarity Trade -
12:52 - 12:54which we call canteens.
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12:54 - 12:59They are like small supermarkets,
spread throughout all the communities. -
12:59 - 13:04I'm talking about a 400-km area
in a straight line, -
13:04 - 13:09from the heart of the town
to the last community we serve. -
13:09 - 13:13This is over 54 hours by boat
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13:13 - 13:15which is our means of transport,
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13:15 - 13:17going round all the bends in the river.
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13:17 - 13:21So a people who succeeded
in their efforts -
13:21 - 13:25- despite persecution from the police,
a part that I skipped, -
13:25 - 13:26persecution from the bosses -
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13:26 - 13:30who found a way of surviving.
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13:30 - 13:34And most interestingly,
surviving in a sustainable manner. -
13:34 - 13:36Everything that's done in that reserve
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13:36 - 13:41is done thinking of the present
and future generations. -
13:41 - 13:42And if you allow me,
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13:42 - 13:44I'd like to tell the story
of the Andiroba tree. -
13:44 - 13:46When we started,
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13:46 - 13:48I was president
of the association at the time. -
13:48 - 13:52We began to make a study
of the potential of the Andiroba, -
13:52 - 13:55together with Amazonas State University.
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13:55 - 14:00We used to see flooring
made from Andiroba in some houses, -
14:00 - 14:01and we'd say,
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14:01 - 14:03"Cut some other tree, leave the Andiroba,
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14:03 - 14:04we're studying it."
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14:05 - 14:09Andiroba was only used
for homemade medicine, -
14:09 - 14:14or to make homemade soap
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14:14 - 14:18which was cheaper
than industrialized soap. -
14:18 - 14:22When this project
came through, even Natura, -
14:22 - 14:26because the big goal was
to produce energy from vegetable oil, -
14:26 - 14:28which is still done today.
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14:28 - 14:30Anyone can go there and see this.
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14:30 - 14:33Natura appeared exactly
at that time, in 2002, -
14:33 - 14:36and was interested in buying
this raw material. -
14:36 - 14:37We said, "No, wait a minute.
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14:37 - 14:41Natura wants to buy
at eight Brazilian reais a kilo of oil, -
14:41 - 14:46diesel costs about 0.92 reais a liter.
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14:46 - 14:49Listen, you can buy the diesel
and still have money left over." -
14:49 - 14:52Then we started to use it in the motors,
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14:52 - 14:55but we sold a good part.
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14:55 - 14:59Now there is a contract,
quite fair and organized, -
14:59 - 15:04between the community and Natura,
the cooperative and Cognis. -
15:04 - 15:08The Rubber Tappers' Council
is always present in the negotiation, -
15:08 - 15:11it's very well considered.
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15:11 - 15:16Now they are even discussing
the Middle Juruá fund -
15:16 - 15:18with the aim of presenting projects.
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15:18 - 15:19But, going back to the subject.
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15:19 - 15:23The families started
to sell this raw material -
15:23 - 15:27at 8, 10, 14, 18 reais,
and today it's sold at 24 reais -
15:27 - 15:30a kilo of Andiroba oil or Murumuru butter.
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15:30 - 15:32Now, that same family
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15:32 - 15:35that didn't see the importance
of Andiroba trees -
15:35 - 15:40and sometimes cut them
for housing material and not to sell, -
15:40 - 15:44now they want to know,
when they look at the Andiroba tree trails -
15:44 - 15:47what insolent kid walked along there
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15:47 - 15:50and cut the roots of their Andiroba tree,
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15:50 - 15:53because they fear
it will ruin the fructification. -
15:53 - 15:58I tell this story to show
our responsibility -
15:58 - 16:01in finding the true value of the forest,
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16:01 - 16:06in finding a way of valorizing
the forest conservation work -
16:06 - 16:07that our people do.
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16:07 - 16:09Because when we find this
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16:09 - 16:12like Middle Juruá found
in the Andiroba, in the Murumuru, -
16:12 - 16:17they need no laws or inspectors.
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16:17 - 16:20The best inspectors
is the community itself, -
16:20 - 16:23the users of the environment
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16:23 - 16:26when they understand this process.
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16:27 - 16:28This shows me...
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16:28 - 16:32I started talking about my own life,
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16:32 - 16:34I was the association's president
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16:34 - 16:36and became president
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16:36 - 16:39of the National Council
of Extractivist Populations. -
16:39 - 16:44Until July last year, it was called
the National Rubber Tappers' Council. -
16:44 - 16:46I don't think it was because...
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16:46 - 16:49first, because I'm very ugly
and not literate enough, -
16:49 - 16:54but maybe it's because
I seriously defend the importance -
16:54 - 16:58of living in harmony with the forest.
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16:58 - 17:01Climate change is here
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17:01 - 17:04affecting our communities very badly,
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17:04 - 17:06and despite that, many people,
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17:06 - 17:08- not this audience here -
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17:08 - 17:09don't understand this.
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17:09 - 17:16I brought some water here,
just to close my story. -
17:16 - 17:20I want to invite you all.
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17:21 - 17:25The Rubber Tappers' Council
is a non-profit grassroots organization -
17:25 - 17:28supported by donations,
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17:28 - 17:30that does great work in the Amazon.
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17:30 - 17:34One project has almost
20 million hectares of forest -
17:34 - 17:36with extractivist populations,
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17:36 - 17:42and the Rubber Tappers' Council
pushed this policy with the government. -
17:42 - 17:45To finalize, I just want to tell you
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17:45 - 17:51that I want us all here
to help spread this message. -
17:51 - 17:56People think that the great
devastation of the Amazon -
17:56 - 17:58is through greed for money.
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17:59 - 18:01People don't understand
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18:01 - 18:05that when the drinking water is gone,
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18:05 - 18:10when this fresh air we breathe is gone,
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18:12 - 18:15this here in my pocket
will be worth nothing. -
18:15 - 18:20It won't save my life,
nor that of my children, -
18:20 - 18:22nor the planet.
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18:22 - 18:25It's this money that makes us greedy.
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18:25 - 18:27Thanks, everybody.
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18:27 - 18:29(Applause)
- Title:
- How I fled from slavery | Manoel Cunha | TEDxAmazônia
- Description:
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Manoel Cunha was a teenage rubber tapper when he decided he no longer wanted to work in semi-slavery. He persuaded his colleagues to venture into the forest for days by boat on the river in search of autonomy. Today, at over 50, he is president of the National Council of Rubber Tappers.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but inde-pendently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- Portuguese, Brazilian
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- Duration:
- 18:39
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