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Let's measure what we treasure: human rights | Anne-Marie Brook | TEDxWellington

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    You understand the importance of light
    and the truth, right?
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    Imagine a world without them.
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    I’m here to talk about
    how we need more, of both.
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    I’m going to start with a true story
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    about the kinds of things that happen
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    when too much of the world
    is operating in darkness.
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    On a warm October day in 2018,
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    a Saudi Arabian journalist
    called Jamal Kashoggi
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    walked into the
    Saudi Consulate in Istanbul,
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    to get some papers he needed
    to marry his Turkish fiancée.
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    She waited outside for him for hours.
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    She never saw him again.
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    You may remember hearing about this case,

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    because it made headlines
    around the world.
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    We know from a number
    of different investigations
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    that Saudi government agents
    went into the consulate,
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    killed Mr. Kashoggi
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    and dismembered his body.
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    Let me be clear about what I just said.
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    Government agents killed a journalist
    to silence his truths.
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    These kinds of happenings are both
    shocking and surprisingly common.
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    But I’m pretty sure
    that if the Saudi government had known
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    that this case would make
    headlines worldwide,
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    and stay there for weeks,
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    they wouldn’t have done it, right?
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    They wanted to commit
    their crimes in the dark,
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    not in broad daylight for all to see.
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    Which raises some questions.
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    What if we could shine a brighter light
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    on the world’s injustices
    and wrong-doings?
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    And what if, by doing so, we could
    incentivise governments everywhere
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    to treat people with more respect
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    and listen to the voices of their critics
    rather than silencing them?
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    This is the world
    that I’m working to create.
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    I’d like you to take a moment -
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    you’re welcome to close your eyes -
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    and ask yourself this question:
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    what is it that you and your family need
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    to live in dignity and fulfill
    your potential as human beings?
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    You might be thinking about good food
    or a roof over your head,
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    access to healthcare or education,
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    or a good job, or social security,
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    or you might be thinking about
    the freedom to be yourself
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    and speak your mind without fear
    of arrest, torture, imprisonment or worse.
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    These things are not luxuries.
    They are human rights.
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    They have been defined and set out
    in international human rights law.
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    Countries have made promises
    to respect them.
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    But until now,
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    no one has been tracking
    how well each country is doing
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    on making sure every person
    is able to enjoy each human right.
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    I know, I was surprised to learn this too.
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    For 20 years, I was an economist.
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    In the mid-2000s, I was working
    at the OECD in Paris,
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    giving economic policy advice
    to governments.
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    I really loved my job.
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    I found it super interesting to look at
    each country through the economist lens
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    and figure out what advice to offer.
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    But there was one problem.
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    In every country, there were
    human rights violations.
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    I was reading about mistreatment
    of Kurds in Turkey
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    and Roma in Slovakia,
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    and I was always kind of looking for ways
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    that I could try and bring these
    human rights issues into my reports.
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    But there was only so far I could go,
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    because when economists give advice,
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    it always has to be based
    on empirical evidence,
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    and what I learned is that there was
    no comprehensive database
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    tracking the human rights
    performance of countries.
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    This is a problem.
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    This was a problem.
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    When you’re assessing
    the state of the world,
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    chances are you’re going to be looking
    first at the things you’ve got data for:
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    income per person,
    trade and investment flows,
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    carbon emissions ...
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    It’s very difficult for any government
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    to put human rights
    at the heart of its agenda,
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    if they don’t have the data they need.
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    After that, I just couldn’t let go
    of the fact that there was this data gap.
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    A few years later,
    after moving back to New Zealand,
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    I can remember being at home
    with my son when he was little,
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    and after putting him to bed
    for his afternoon nap,
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    I felt this magnetic pull
    back to the computer
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    where I was researching
    who was measuring human rights.
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    I was contacting the world’s experts
    and asking them questions.
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    Why were human rights
    not being systematically measured?
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    Could it be done?
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    Lots of the emails I sent got no reply.
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    But many of them did.
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    There were a few people who told me
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    that this idea of systematically
    tracking human rights
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    was a good idea, but too ambitious
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    Only one or two people told me
    it was impossible, ridiculous even.
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    I wasn’t too bothered.
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    My philosophy was to go
    where the energy was.
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    And by following the energy,
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    I linked up with two super clever
    human rights academics
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    who shared my vision,
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    Susan Randolph and Chad Clay,
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    and together we founded the
    Human Rights Measurement Initiative,
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    or HRMI (pronounced 'hermi') for short.
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    Even before HRMI had $1 of funding,
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    we’ve been working with human rights
    practitioners from around the world
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    to make sure that we produce data
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    that accurately reflects the situation
    on the ground in different countries.
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    Our goal is to make sure
    that you can see more
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    than just those few headline cases,
    like Mr. Kashoggi’s,
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    that make it into the news.
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    We are turning on
    more lights around the world.
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    I feel both privileged and humbled
    to be able to do the work that I do
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    because I know that in many other
    countries around the world
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    human rights defenders are putting
    their lives at risk every single day,
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    just for documenting
    the injustices that they see.
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    So I’m really pleased that HRMI is
    helping to amplify the voices
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    of these amazing people
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    so that their work can have more impact.
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    And I’m really pleased
    that the collective vision that HRMI has
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    is no longer just a vision;
    it’s now a collective endeavour.
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    We already have hundreds of human rights
    practitioners around the world
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    contributing, on a volunteer basis,
    their time and knowledge
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    to help turn on more lights,
    fill these data gaps,
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    bring more attention
    to what really matters.
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    So how do we measure the human rights
    performance of countries?
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    So far, we’ve got two main methodologies.
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    First, whenever possible,
    we use publicly available statistics.
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    For Quality of Life rights,
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    things like the rights to food,
    education, health, housing and work,
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    this gives us really great
    country coverage.
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    This map shows, in blue, all 169 countries
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    where we are tracking country performance
    on the right to health.
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    A lot of the statistical indicators
    that we look at are the same ones
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    used to monitor the United Nation’s
    Sustainable Development Goals.
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    But here’s the difference:
    we don’t just look at the raw statistics.
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    We do something much more vital.
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    We convert them into numbers that make
    sense from a human rights perspective.
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    To do this, we have adopted
    an award-winning approach
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    that was developed by my HRMI co-founder,
    Susan, and her colleagues.
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    And what it does is it judges
    each country by a different benchmark
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    depending on that country’s
    level of income.
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    So both richer countries
    and poorer countries will get low scores
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    if they’re not using
    their available resources
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    as effectively as other countries
    at those income levels have done;
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    for example, to bring about
    good health outcomes.
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    This approach is genius,
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    not only because it measures
    how countries are doing
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    on the basis of how these rights are
    defined in international law,
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    but also because it’s just logical.
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    It makes sense to hold high income
    countries to a higher standard of account
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    for their health outcomes
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    than poorer countries, right?
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    Second, for civil and political rights,
    we collect the data ourselves.
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    These rights include all sorts of things
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    from killings and torture
    to voting rights and free speech.
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    You might be surprised to learn
    that these are all things
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    that official statistics
    just don’t keep track of.
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    So we brought in experts
    from Amnesty International,
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    organisations like Human Rights Watch,
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    and together we developed an expert survey
    so that we could collect this information
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    from people who are monitoring events
    on the ground in each country.
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    We’re really happy with how well
    our expert survey is working out.
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    So far, we have data
    for these 19 countries,
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    and that number is growing every year.
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    Most importantly, people tell us
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    that our scores accurately reflect
    the situation on the ground
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    in the countries that they
    are knowledgeable about.
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    Let me introduce you
    to some of our data insights
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    by sharing with you one quiz question.
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    'Which of these countries performs best
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    on respecting the right to freedom
    from extrajudicial execution?
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    Jordan, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia,
    the United States or Mexico?'
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    Now, while you think about it,
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    just let me give you
    a little more information.
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    First, a definition:
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    extrajudicial killings are killings
    by government agents,
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    like what happened to Mr. Kashoggi,
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    but more commonly things
    like police shootings.
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    And let me also tell you a little more
    about where the scores come from.
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    In February and March this year,
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    we sent our expert survey
    to people monitoring human rights
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    in all five of these
    countries, and others,
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    and each person told us
    how well they think their country is doing
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    on respecting this right, and others.
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    And we use some really sophisticated
    statistical techniques
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    for ensuring that different
    people’s responses
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    can be made comparable with one another.
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    Okay, so do you have in mind
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    what you think the answer
    to this question is?
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    The answer is Jordan.
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    And here you can see the scores
    for all five of these countries.
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    The little vertical solid lines
    that you see are our best estimate
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    of what the score is for each country.
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    Countries with wider uncertainty bands,
    like Saudi Arabia’s,
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    tell us that we are less certain
    exactly where the true score lies,
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    perhaps because there may
    have been less agreement
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    among the respondents who filled in
    our survey for Saudi Arabia.
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    Narrower uncertainty bands, like Mexico’s,
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    tell us that we are more certain
    about what the score is for that country.
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    The overlap of the bands is important.
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    We can be confident that Jordan
    is performing better than Venezuela
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    because their bands don’t overlap.
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    We're less confident exactly
    what the relative ranking would be
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    of the countries that come next.
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    Of course this is just a subset of all
    the countries we have data for.
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    Let me add in some more.
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    Here you can see New Zealand, Australia,
    South Korea and the United Kingdom.
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    No country gets a perfect score
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    because in every country,
    even New Zealand,
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    there is room for improvement.
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    How is this information useful?
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    HRMI is not an advocacy organisation,
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    so we don’t tell governments
    what they could be doing differently.
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    But you can use our data for that purpose.
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    So let’s say your country
    had a lowish score,
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    so it’s down this end of the scale,
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    and you want to move it that way.
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    What can you do?
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    I’m sure the possibilities are endless,
    but let’s just discuss a few.
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    You could encourage your country to embark
    on the challenging but vital task
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    of retraining your police force.
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    You could meet with vulnerable
    and minority groups
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    and take their advice
    on how to reform your institutions.
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    You could look at the laws and policies
    of your better-performing neighbours
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    and you could also choose to do better.
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    We have a scoreboard like this for eight
    different civil and political rights,
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    and for each one of them,
    for each country and for each right,
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    we also collect information
    on what is driving their scores.
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    So let’s say you wanted to know
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    why the United States
    is performing so poorly on this right.
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    You could learn that part of the reason
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    is because there are too many
    police shootings of people of colour.
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    Our US experts told us
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    that the people who are most at risk of
    extrajudicial killing in the United States
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    are African Americans,
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    Latinx people,
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    Native Americans,
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    and children detained at the border.
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    These insights I've shared
    from our database
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    are just some of the thousands
    that you can find there,
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    and that’s before we have even expanded
    our survey to all countries in the world.
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    I know that all of this
    can feel quite heavy.
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    That’s because it is.
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    So I’m happy to share with you
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    that we also have some
    really positive, good news stories
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    in HRMI’s database as well.
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    Here’s a good news chart
    from the Africa region.
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    Each of the coloured sections
    shows you one Quality of Life right,
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    and what you can see is there has been
    slow but gradual improvement
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    in the performance, on average,
    across the African continent.
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    And the good news story gets even better
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    because HRMI data also show
    a gradual trend improvement
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    in the fulfillment of these rights
    in all regions of the world.
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    This is a really positive
    human rights story.
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    I love it and it fills me
    with a lot of hope.
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    One thing that I’ve noticed
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    since making my career transition
    from economist to co-founder of HRMI,
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    is that when I catch up
    with old friends and I tell them
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    that what I’m now doing is measuring
    the human rights performance of countries,
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    I sometimes get these
    kind of somewhat blank looks.
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    When I used to tell people that I was
    helping to improve economic performance,
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    I would get more nods of understanding.
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    And I get it.
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    The economy is really well measured.
    People are used to hearing about it.
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    By contrast, human rights have been
    under-reported, under-measured
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    and overlooked for too long.
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    Let’s change that.
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    Shedding a light on human rights
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    and bringing about a massive change
    in the way our world works
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    is a huge global collaborative challenge,
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    and you can help.
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    We have started by shedding
    a light on your country.
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    What does it reveal that you can act on?
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    What will you demand of your leaders?
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    What other countries can inspire yours
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    to better and bolder respect
    for human rights?
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    What if world’s leaders summoned
    their advisors and demanded answers?
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    What if they said not just, ‘Tell me how
    to improve our economic performance!’,
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    but, ‘Tell me how to improve
    our human rights performance'?
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    Numbers are not as sexy as stories.
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    They don’t pull on the heartstrings
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    in the same way.
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    But each one helps to light up our world,
    showing us the way ahead.
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    Numbers help us figure out
    what needs to change, and how.
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    Let’s build a world
    where countries are competing,
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    not just in sport and to see
    who can be the richest,
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    but to see who can treat
    their people the best.
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    Let’s measure what we treasure.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Let's measure what we treasure: human rights | Anne-Marie Brook | TEDxWellington
Description:

Anne-Marie is a former OECD economist with a passion for helping to bring about systemic change. She believes that having good metrics for tracking the human rights performance of countries is a prerequisite for the collective action that is needed to transform our world for the better. She is co-founder and development lead for the Human Rights Measurement Initiative (HRMI), based at Motu Research, a not-for-profit research institute based in Wellington. Anne-Marie is an Edmund Hillary Fellow, and has degrees in Psychology and Economics from the University of Otago and a Masters of Public Affairs from Princeton University.

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