The economic injustice of plastic | Van Jones | TEDxGreatPacificGarbagePatch
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0:21 - 0:22Ta-da!
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0:22 - 0:24(Laughter)
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0:25 - 0:26I am honored to be here,
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0:26 - 0:28and I'm honored to talk about this topic,
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0:28 - 0:30which I think is of grave importance.
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0:30 - 0:31We've been talking a lot
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0:31 - 0:37about the horrific impacts of plastic
on the planet and on other species, -
0:37 - 0:39but plastic hurts people, too...
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0:40 - 0:41Especially poor people.
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0:42 - 0:45And both in the production of plastic,
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0:45 - 0:48the use of plastic
and the disposal of plastic, -
0:48 - 0:51the people who have
the bull's-eye on their foreheads -
0:52 - 0:53are poor people.
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0:55 - 0:57People got very upset
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0:57 - 1:00when the BP oil spill happened,
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1:00 - 1:01for very good reason.
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1:02 - 1:03People thought, "Oh, my God.
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1:03 - 1:06This is terrible, this oil...
It's in the water. -
1:06 - 1:10It's going to destroy
the living systems there. -
1:10 - 1:11People are going to be hurt.
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1:11 - 1:13This is a terrible thing,
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1:13 - 1:15this oil is going to hurt
the people in the Gulf." -
1:15 - 1:17What people don't think about is:
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1:17 - 1:19What if the oil had made it
safely to shore? -
1:20 - 1:23What if the oil actually got
where it was trying to go? -
1:23 - 1:27Not only would it have been burned
in engines and added to global warming, -
1:27 - 1:31but there's a place called "Cancer Alley,"
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1:31 - 1:33and the reason it's called "Cancer Alley"
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1:33 - 1:36is because the petrochemical industry
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1:36 - 1:38takes that oil and turns it into plastic
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1:38 - 1:40and in the process, kills people.
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1:40 - 1:43It shortens the lives of the people
who live there in the Gulf. -
1:43 - 1:47So oil and petrochemicals are not
just a problem when there's a spill; -
1:47 - 1:49they're a problem when there's not.
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1:49 - 1:51And what we don't often appreciate
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1:51 - 1:53is the price that poor people pay
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1:53 - 1:55for us to have these disposable products.
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1:56 - 1:58The other thing
we often don't appreciate is, -
1:58 - 2:01it's not just at the point of production
that poor people suffer. -
2:01 - 2:03Poor people also suffer
at the point of use. -
2:04 - 2:06Those of us who earn
a certain income level, -
2:06 - 2:08we have something called choice.
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2:08 - 2:11The reason why you want
to work hard and have a job -
2:11 - 2:12and not be poor and broke
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2:12 - 2:15is so you can have choices,
economic choices. -
2:15 - 2:19We actually get a chance
to choose not to use products -
2:19 - 2:22that have dangerous,
poisonous plastic in them. -
2:22 - 2:25Other people who are poor
don't have those choices. -
2:25 - 2:27So low-income people often are the ones
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2:27 - 2:31who are buying the products that have
those dangerous chemicals in them -
2:31 - 2:32that their children are using.
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2:32 - 2:36Those are the people who wind up
ingesting a disproportionate amount -
2:36 - 2:38of this poisonous plastic in using it.
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2:39 - 2:42And people say, "Well, they should
just buy a different product." -
2:42 - 2:45Well, the problem with being poor
is you don't have those choices. -
2:45 - 2:47You often have to buy
the cheapest products. -
2:47 - 2:50The cheapest products
are often the most dangerous. -
2:50 - 2:52And if that weren't bad enough...
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2:52 - 2:55If it wasn't just the production
of plastic that's giving people cancer -
2:56 - 2:57in places like Cancer Alley,
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2:57 - 3:01and shortening lives and hurting
poor kids at the point of use... -
3:01 - 3:03At the point of disposal,
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3:03 - 3:06once again, it's poor people
who bear the burden. -
3:06 - 3:09Often, we think we're doing a good thing:
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3:09 - 3:12You're in your office, drinking
your bottled water or whatever it is, -
3:13 - 3:15and you think to yourself,
"I'm going to throw this away. -
3:15 - 3:19No... I'm going to be virtuous.
I'm going to put it in the blue bin." -
3:19 - 3:21You think, "I put mine in the blue bin."
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3:21 - 3:24And then you look
at your colleague and say, -
3:24 - 3:28"Why, you cretin!
You put yours in the white bin." -
3:28 - 3:30And we use that as a moral tickle.
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3:30 - 3:32We feel so good about ourselves.
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3:32 - 3:35If we... well, OK, I'm just... me.
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3:35 - 3:37Not you, but I feel this way often.
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3:37 - 3:39(Laughter)
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3:39 - 3:42And so we kind of have
this moral feel-good moment. -
3:42 - 3:45But if we were to be able
to follow that little bottle -
3:45 - 3:47on its journey,
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3:47 - 3:49we would be shocked
to discover that, all too often, -
3:49 - 3:52that bottle is going to be put on a boat,
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3:53 - 3:55it's going to go all the way
across the ocean -
3:56 - 3:57at some expense,
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3:57 - 4:00and it's going to wind up
in a developing country, often China. -
4:01 - 4:03I think in our minds, we imagine
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4:03 - 4:05somebody's going to take
the little bottle and say, -
4:05 - 4:09"Oh, little bottle! We're so happy
to see you, little bottle." -
4:09 - 4:10(Laughter)
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4:10 - 4:13"You've served so well."
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4:13 - 4:14(Laughter)
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4:14 - 4:16He's given a little bottle massage,
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4:16 - 4:17a little bottle medal.
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4:18 - 4:20And they say, "What would
you like to do next?" -
4:20 - 4:22The little bottle says,
"I just don't know ..." -
4:22 - 4:23(Laughter)
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4:23 - 4:26But that's not actually what happens.
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4:27 - 4:28You know?
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4:28 - 4:32That bottle winds up getting burned.
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4:33 - 4:36The recycling of plastic
in many developing countries -
4:36 - 4:40means the incineration of the plastic,
the burning of the plastic, -
4:40 - 4:42which releases incredible toxic chemicals
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4:42 - 4:44and, once again, kills people.
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4:44 - 4:48And so, poor people
who are making these products -
4:48 - 4:50in petrochemical centers
like Cancer Alley, -
4:50 - 4:54poor people who are consuming
these products disproportionately, -
4:54 - 4:57and then poor people who,
even at the tail end of the recycling, -
4:57 - 4:59are having their lives shortened.
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4:59 - 5:02They're all being harmed... greatly...
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5:03 - 5:07By this addiction that we have
to disposability. -
5:07 - 5:10Now, you think to yourself...
I know how you are... -
5:10 - 5:13You say, "That sure is terrible
for those poor people. -
5:15 - 5:18It's just awful. Those poor people.
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5:18 - 5:20I hope someone does
something to help them." -
5:21 - 5:23But what we don't understand is...
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5:24 - 5:26Here we are in Los Angeles.
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5:26 - 5:28We worked very hard
to get the smog reduction -
5:28 - 5:30happening here in Los Angeles.
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5:30 - 5:31But guess what?
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5:31 - 5:34Because they're doing so much
dirty production in Asia now, -
5:34 - 5:38because the environmental laws
don't protect the people in Asia now, -
5:38 - 5:42almost all of the clean air gains
and the toxic air gains -
5:42 - 5:44that we've achieved here in California
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5:44 - 5:47have been wiped out
by dirty air coming over from Asia. -
5:48 - 5:51So we all are being hit.
We all are being impacted. -
5:51 - 5:54It's just that the poor people
get it first and worst. -
5:54 - 5:57But the dirty production,
the burning of toxins, -
5:57 - 5:59the lack of environmental
standards in Asia, -
5:59 - 6:02is actually creating so much
dirty air pollution, -
6:02 - 6:03it's coming across the ocean,
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6:03 - 6:05and has erased our gains
here in California. -
6:05 - 6:07We're back where we were in the 1970s.
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6:07 - 6:09And so we're on one planet,
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6:09 - 6:12and we have to be able to get
to the root of these problems. -
6:12 - 6:15The root of this problem, in my view,
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6:15 - 6:18is the idea of disposability itself.
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6:18 - 6:21You see, if you understand the link
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6:21 - 6:25between what we're doing
to poison and pollute the planet -
6:25 - 6:27and what we're doing to poor people,
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6:27 - 6:32you arrive at a very troubling
but also very helpful insight: -
6:32 - 6:35In order to trash the planet,
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6:35 - 6:36you have to trash people.
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6:37 - 6:40But if you create a world
where you don't trash people, -
6:40 - 6:41you can't trash the planet.
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6:42 - 6:44So now we are at a moment
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6:44 - 6:47where the coming together
of social justice as an idea -
6:47 - 6:49and ecology as an idea,
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6:50 - 6:51we finally can now see
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6:51 - 6:53that they are really,
at the end of the day, one idea. -
6:53 - 6:56And it's the idea that we don't have
disposable anything. -
6:57 - 6:59We don't have disposable resources.
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7:00 - 7:02We don't have disposable species.
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7:02 - 7:05And we don't have
disposable people, either. -
7:05 - 7:07We don't have a throwaway planet,
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7:07 - 7:10and we don't have throwaway
children... it's all precious. -
7:10 - 7:13And as we all begin to come back
to that basic understanding, -
7:13 - 7:16new opportunities for action
begin to emerge. -
7:16 - 7:18Biomimicry,
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7:18 - 7:22which is an emerging science,
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7:22 - 7:25winds up being a very important
social justice idea. -
7:25 - 7:27People who are just
learning about this stuff: -
7:27 - 7:31biomimicry means respecting
the wisdom of all species. -
7:31 - 7:33Democracy, by the way,
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7:33 - 7:36means respecting the wisdom
of all people... we'll get to that. -
7:36 - 7:38But biomimicry means
respecting the wisdom of all species. -
7:38 - 7:41It turns out we're a pretty
clever species. -
7:41 - 7:44We have this big cortex,
we're pretty proud of ourselves. -
7:44 - 7:47But if we want to make something hard,
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7:47 - 7:49we say, "I know! I'm going
to make a hard substance. -
7:49 - 7:53I know! I'm going to get
vacuums and furnaces -
7:53 - 7:54and drag stuff out of the ground
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7:54 - 7:57and get things hot
and poison and pollute... -
7:57 - 8:00But I got this hard thing!"
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8:00 - 8:01(Laughter)
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8:01 - 8:03"I'm so clever!"
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8:03 - 8:06And you look behind you,
and there's destruction all around you. -
8:06 - 8:07But guess what?
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8:07 - 8:10You're so clever,
but you're not as clever as a clam. -
8:10 - 8:11A clamshell is hard.
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8:12 - 8:15There's no vacuums.
There's no big furnaces. -
8:15 - 8:16There's no poison. There's no pollution.
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8:17 - 8:21It turns out that other species
figured out a long time ago -
8:21 - 8:24how to create many of the things we need
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8:24 - 8:27using biological processes
that nature knows how to use well. -
8:27 - 8:31That insight of biomimicry,
of our scientists finally realizing -
8:31 - 8:33that we have as much
to learn from other species... -
8:33 - 8:37I don't mean taking a mouse
and sticking it with stuff. -
8:37 - 8:40I don't mean looking at it from that way,
abusing the little species. -
8:40 - 8:43I mean actually respecting them,
respecting what they've achieved. -
8:43 - 8:45That's called biomimicry,
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8:45 - 8:49and that opens the door
to zero waste production; -
8:49 - 8:51zero pollution production;
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8:51 - 8:53that we could actually enjoy
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8:53 - 8:55a high quality of life,
a high standard of living, -
8:55 - 8:57without trashing the planet.
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8:57 - 9:00Well, that idea of biomimicry,
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9:00 - 9:02respecting the wisdom of all species,
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9:03 - 9:07combined with the idea
of democracy and social justice, -
9:07 - 9:09respecting the wisdom
and the worth of all people, -
9:09 - 9:11would give us a different society.
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9:11 - 9:13We would have a different economy.
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9:13 - 9:16We would have a green society
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9:16 - 9:18that Dr. King would be proud of.
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9:18 - 9:19That should be the goal.
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9:20 - 9:23And the way that we get there
is to first of all recognize -
9:23 - 9:25that the idea of disposability
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9:26 - 9:30not only hurts the species
we've talked about, -
9:30 - 9:32but it even corrupts our own society.
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9:32 - 9:35We're so proud to live here in California.
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9:35 - 9:38We just had this vote,
and everybody's like, -
9:38 - 9:39"Well... not in our state!"
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9:39 - 9:41(Laughter)
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9:41 - 9:44I don't know what those
other states were doing, but ..." -
9:44 - 9:45(Laughter)
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9:45 - 9:47Just so proud.
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9:48 - 9:50And, yeah, I'm proud, too.
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9:50 - 9:52But...
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9:53 - 9:57California, though we lead the world
in some of the green stuff, -
9:57 - 9:59we also, unfortunately, lead the world
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9:59 - 10:00in some of the gulag stuff.
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10:01 - 10:05California has one of the highest
incarceration rates -
10:05 - 10:07of all the 50 states.
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10:07 - 10:09We have a moral challenge
in this movement. -
10:10 - 10:15We are passionate about rescuing
some dead materials from the landfill, -
10:15 - 10:17but sometimes not as passionate
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10:17 - 10:19about rescuing living beings,
living people. -
10:19 - 10:23And I would say
that we live in a country... -
10:23 - 10:25Five percent of the world's population,
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10:25 - 10:2625 percent of the greenhouse gases,
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10:27 - 10:29but also 25 percent
of the world's prisoners. -
10:30 - 10:33One of every four people
locked up anywhere in the world -
10:33 - 10:35is locked up right here
in the United States. -
10:35 - 10:38So that is consistent with this idea
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10:38 - 10:40that disposability
is something we believe in. -
10:41 - 10:42And yet,
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10:43 - 10:48as a movement that has to broaden
its constituency, -
10:48 - 10:49that has to grow,
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10:49 - 10:52that has to reach out
beyond our natural comfort zone, -
10:52 - 10:55one of the challenges
to the success of this movement, -
10:55 - 10:58of getting rid of things like plastic
and helping the economy shift, -
10:58 - 11:01is people look at our movement
with some suspicion. -
11:02 - 11:04And they ask a question,
and the question is: -
11:04 - 11:06How can these people be so passionate?
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11:07 - 11:10A poor person, a low-income person,
somebody in Cancer Alley, -
11:11 - 11:13somebody in Watts,
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11:13 - 11:16somebody in Harlem,
somebody on an Indian reservation, -
11:16 - 11:18might say to themselves...
And rightfully so... -
11:18 - 11:20"How can these people be so passionate
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11:21 - 11:23about making sure
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11:23 - 11:27that a plastic bottle
has a second chance in life, -
11:27 - 11:29or an aluminum can has a second chance,
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11:30 - 11:33and yet, when my child gets in trouble
and goes to prison, -
11:34 - 11:35he doesn't get a second chance?"
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11:35 - 11:38"How can this movement
be so passionate about saying -
11:38 - 11:41we don't have throwaway stuff,
no throwaway dead materials, -
11:41 - 11:43and yet accept throwaway lives
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11:44 - 11:46and throwaway communities
like Cancer Alley?" -
11:46 - 11:51And so, we now get a chance
to be truly proud of this movement. -
11:51 - 11:53When we take on topics like this,
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11:53 - 11:58it gives us that extra call
to reach out to other movements -
11:58 - 12:00and to become more inclusive and to grow,
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12:00 - 12:03and we can finally get out of
this crazy dilemma that we've been in. -
12:04 - 12:06Most of you are good, softhearted people.
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12:07 - 12:10When you were younger,
you cared about the whole world, -
12:10 - 12:13and at some point, somebody said
you had to pick an issue, -
12:14 - 12:16you had to boil your love
down to an issue. -
12:16 - 12:18"Can't love the whole world...
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12:18 - 12:21You've got to work on trees
or you've got to work on immigration. -
12:21 - 12:24You've got to shrink it down
and be about one issue." -
12:24 - 12:27And really, they fundamentally told you,
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12:27 - 12:29"Are you going to hug a tree?
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12:29 - 12:32Or are you going to hug a child? Pick.
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12:32 - 12:33Are you going to hug a tree?
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12:33 - 12:35Or are you going to hug a child? Pick."
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12:35 - 12:38Well, when you start working
on issues like plastic, -
12:38 - 12:40you realize the whole thing is connected.
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12:40 - 12:43And luckily, most of us are blessed
to have two arms... -
12:43 - 12:44We can hug both.
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12:44 - 12:46Thank you very much.
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12:46 - 12:53(Applause)
- Title:
- The economic injustice of plastic | Van Jones | TEDxGreatPacificGarbagePatch
- Description:
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Van Jones lays out a case against plastic pollution from the perspective of social justice. Because plastic trash, he shows us, hits poor people and poor countries "first and worst," with consequences we all share no matter where we live and what we earn. He offers a few powerful ideas to help us reclaim our throwaway planet.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
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