The elephant in the room: a look at animal rights | Sandris Ādminis | TEDxRiga
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0:16 - 0:19I've been told that it's a bad taste
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0:19 - 0:21to start a TED talk
by introducing oneself, -
0:22 - 0:28and yet, my name is Sandris Ādminis
and there is something weird about it. -
0:29 - 0:34Firstly, Google doesn't let me
register an account with such a name. -
0:34 - 0:37I've tried several times,
and they just would not allow it. -
0:37 - 0:39And I guess the reason
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0:39 - 0:44is that part of my last name
consists of the English word "admin," -
0:44 - 0:48so probably, it's just for safety,
so that I don't start scamming people -
0:48 - 0:51as if I was one of
the administrators of Google. -
0:52 - 0:54But there is something else.
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0:54 - 0:58"Ādminis" is a Latvian word
meaning "tanner," -
0:58 - 1:01and tanner is a person
that works with animal skins. -
1:02 - 1:03So probably,
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1:03 - 1:07one of my great-great-great-great
grandfathers was a tanner -
1:07 - 1:09and that's how I got this surname.
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1:09 - 1:14A while ago, I found
a book about forgotten crafts, -
1:14 - 1:19and there was a chapter about tanners,
so, of course, I was intrigued to read it. -
1:19 - 1:24And what struck me there was a tip
from a professional tanner -
1:24 - 1:29who said that if you want to make
a high-quality leather bag, -
1:30 - 1:34you should buy skins
from meat cows, from beef cows, -
1:34 - 1:37and you should never buy skins
from milk cows, from dairy cows -
1:37 - 1:40because they have been
pregnant several times, -
1:40 - 1:42their skin is stretched,
not as flexible anymore, -
1:42 - 1:44so it's not a good quality.
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1:45 - 1:48That's quite a practical tip, right?
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1:49 - 1:50But for me, it was rather awkward.
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1:51 - 1:53And why so?
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1:54 - 1:59Because you are not very likely to find me
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2:00 - 2:04buying somebody's skin
or taking somebody's skin. -
2:04 - 2:09You are much more likely to see me
advocating against killing animals. -
2:09 - 2:12Here I am in a silent protest
against fur farming; -
2:13 - 2:18interviewing people at a circus protest
against exploiting animals in circus. -
2:19 - 2:21I'm also doing a radio show
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2:21 - 2:24about animal rights and veganism,
and science discoveries. -
2:26 - 2:29And I enjoy doing school talks for kids.
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2:30 - 2:33And here are some Latvian activists
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2:33 - 2:37bringing the petition
to ban fur farming to the Parliament. -
2:37 - 2:39Coming back to my last name, "tanner,"
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2:41 - 2:45I guess if there was such a thing
as an intergenerational karma, -
2:45 - 2:47I might be the living proof of it.
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2:49 - 2:52Yeah, in those years,
basically for 10 years, -
2:52 - 2:55I've been involved in animal advocacy
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2:55 - 2:58and working with people
who know a lot about animals, -
2:58 - 3:02and in this time,
one of the main things I've noticed -
3:02 - 3:08is that our understanding about them
is incomplete and superficial, even wrong. -
3:09 - 3:15And even in cases when
we consider them, the animals, -
3:15 - 3:18the focus tends to be
on the benefit for humans, right, -
3:18 - 3:23because humans are the most
significant entities in the universe. -
3:23 - 3:27Everything is regarded in terms
of human values and human experiences. -
3:28 - 3:34But is such an exclusively
human-centered perspective justified? -
3:36 - 3:41Did you know that sheep
can remember many faces? -
3:43 - 3:49Or that apes can remember hundreds
of hand signs and communicate with them? -
3:51 - 3:54Or, did you know
that pigs are so similar to us -
3:54 - 4:00that their internal organs
could be used, like, for donation, -
4:00 - 4:02for transplants?
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4:03 - 4:09Speaking of pigs, all pigs are equal,
but some pigs are much more equal. -
4:10 - 4:14And what I mean by that
is that depending on the context, -
4:14 - 4:17they are treated
very differently by humans. -
4:18 - 4:22Have you heard about Esther,
the Wonder Pig? -
4:23 - 4:24Because you should,
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4:24 - 4:26she's the most famous pig
in the world at the moment. -
4:26 - 4:28She even has her own [TEDx] talk.
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4:28 - 4:31She was adopted as a mini-pig,
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4:31 - 4:35so the family took her in thinking
that she will grow to the size of a cat. -
4:36 - 4:37But they were wrong.
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4:37 - 4:39(Laughter)
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4:39 - 4:43Now she's huge and she weighs more
than the rest of her family together. -
4:43 - 4:44And what would you do
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4:44 - 4:47with a family member
that keeps on growing? -
4:47 - 4:48I hope it's not selling them.
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4:49 - 4:51Yeah, you make more space for it.
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4:51 - 4:52(Laughter)
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4:52 - 4:55Or, should I say, for her.
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4:55 - 4:59She is a part of that family,
just like that cat and that dog is. -
4:59 - 5:02They eat together,
play together, sleep together, -
5:02 - 5:05they have distinct personalities.
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5:05 - 5:09And is there a morally relevant difference
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5:09 - 5:12between a cat and a pig,
or a dog and a pig? -
5:14 - 5:18If not, why should pigs
be treated worse than they? -
5:19 - 5:24Isn't it a form of racism,
I mean, speciesism? -
5:25 - 5:30But unfortunately, this is not
a typical life story of a pig. -
5:31 - 5:33This is a typical modern farm
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5:33 - 5:37where typical pigs
spend their typical lives -
5:37 - 5:40without enjoying sunshine
or grass under their feet, -
5:40 - 5:44never digging for tasty roots
or never rolling in the mud. -
5:45 - 5:49And to me, the mind-itching question is:
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5:49 - 5:50why?
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5:50 - 5:56Why do we treat some animals
as individuals and even as our friends -
5:56 - 6:02while at the same time, we treat others
as replaceable units, and even things? -
6:06 - 6:08What do you see in this picture?
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6:08 - 6:12It's lots of pigs, right?
It's a successful business. -
6:13 - 6:16But what if you knew
that one of them was Esther, -
6:17 - 6:19a curious being
that once lived in a family, -
6:19 - 6:23was close friends with the dog Ruben
and the cat Finnegan? -
6:24 - 6:26Would you perceive
this photo the same way? -
6:28 - 6:34What I'm saying is that seeing
or imagining animals, or humans, -
6:34 - 6:36as a part of a faceless crowd
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6:37 - 6:43makes it easy to normalize all kinds
of bad things, atrocities done to them, -
6:45 - 6:47things that we wouldn't accept otherwise.
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6:48 - 6:50We could also eliminate all the traces
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6:50 - 6:53that lead us to perceive them
as individuals: -
6:53 - 6:57no face, no name, no skin,
no context at all, -
6:57 - 7:01just a product with a date
of expiration and a price. -
7:03 - 7:04It makes it easy, right?
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7:05 - 7:09When I was in high school,
I was staying with my grandma, -
7:09 - 7:11and one night, I was really hungry.
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7:11 - 7:13I went to the fridge,
there was a piece of bacon, -
7:13 - 7:17I cut a slice of it, enjoyed it,
wanted to have some more, -
7:17 - 7:20but then I noticed
that there was a nipple on it, -
7:20 - 7:22just like in this photo.
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7:22 - 7:25Can you eat something that has a nipple?
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7:26 - 7:29I managed to swallow
that bite that I already had, -
7:29 - 7:33but that was
a life-transforming experience. -
7:35 - 7:38So, the way we treat animals
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7:38 - 7:41depends on how we see them
and what we know about them. -
7:43 - 7:48Over time, humanity has also changed
its perception of animals. -
7:50 - 7:52For example, I still can't believe
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7:52 - 7:55that the superstar
of the Western philosophy, -
7:55 - 7:57one of the brightest minds,
René Descartes, -
7:57 - 8:01once argued that animals
are merely biological machines, -
8:01 - 8:04not thinking, not being conscious,
not even feeling. -
8:07 - 8:10Or Aristotle, the ancient
Greek philosopher. -
8:10 - 8:13He saw nature organized
in a clear hierarchy, -
8:13 - 8:16humans being the most
perfect ones on the top, -
8:16 - 8:21then mammals far below,
birds, reptiles, and so on, -
8:21 - 8:25and each of the levels on the lower side
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8:25 - 8:28were supposedly meant
for the upper levels. -
8:29 - 8:35And by the way, according to Aristotle,
he thought that also women were below men -
8:35 - 8:40and at least a little higher than slaves
who were also a natural part of the world, -
8:40 - 8:42at least in his times.
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8:44 - 8:47The biblical view was pretty similar:
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8:48 - 8:55man had God's given rights to rule
over everything else, everyone else. -
8:57 - 9:01It's only since Charles Darwin
published his influential book -
9:01 - 9:03"On the Origin of Species,"
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9:03 - 9:04only since then,
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9:04 - 9:09we are starting to accept our connection
with other beings, other species. -
9:11 - 9:16So modern biology doesn't see nature
as a simple hierarchy, -
9:16 - 9:18as Aristotle or the Bible did.
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9:19 - 9:24To the contrary, it's rather organized
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9:24 - 9:28in an incredibly complex way,
but still a unified way. -
9:29 - 9:34Even illustrations like this one,
made by the Tree of Life Web Project, -
9:34 - 9:37are a simplification
of the complexity of earthlings, -
9:37 - 9:41the family network
of life forms on our planet. -
9:41 - 9:44Almost every day, scientists
uncover new data on animals, -
9:44 - 9:48and there is an awkward amount
of new knowledge. -
9:49 - 9:54In the recent century alone,
we have developed so many things, -
9:54 - 9:59technology that helps us
understand them better, animals, -
9:59 - 10:00both for scientists and for us.
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10:00 - 10:05We have been learning about life
under water, deep in the oceans. -
10:06 - 10:08Millions of people recently watched
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10:08 - 10:11a live-stream video
about a giraffe baby being born. -
10:11 - 10:13I imagine that at least some
of you in this audience -
10:13 - 10:17enjoy spying on birds
via video streams from their nests; -
10:17 - 10:20these videos are very popular in Latvia.
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10:22 - 10:25We have also learned
that there are many other humanoids, -
10:25 - 10:27not just Homo sapiens.
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10:27 - 10:29And genetics as a science
is opening our eyes -
10:29 - 10:33about the relatedness
on a stunning micro level. -
10:35 - 10:38So, inevitably, new data and discoveries
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10:38 - 10:44are pushing us to rethink
our place in the universe -
10:44 - 10:46and also our relation to other animals.
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10:47 - 10:53It's a part of an already existing trend
of dethroning, of decrowning ourselves -
10:53 - 10:58and getting rid of the sweet illusion
of being the center of everything. -
11:00 - 11:01Major scientific breakthroughs
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11:01 - 11:05again and again have pushed us
to humble self-perception. -
11:06 - 11:10Like, once we believed
that we were created, -
11:10 - 11:13that our planet was
the center of the universe, -
11:13 - 11:14and now we know we aren't.
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11:14 - 11:17We thought that at least we are
in the center of the solar system -
11:17 - 11:19and everything is circling around us,
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11:19 - 11:20but that's also not true.
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11:22 - 11:27Also, there was no doubt that we are
fundamentally different from those beasts, -
11:27 - 11:30that we are rather
godlike creatures, right? -
11:30 - 11:32But now, there is more and more evidence
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11:32 - 11:36that Homo sapiens, humans,
are just one of the many species, -
11:36 - 11:40sharing all kinds of traits
and capabilities that we value highly -
11:40 - 11:45with other animals who have those too.
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11:48 - 11:52And humanity has already started
to take this message on-board. -
11:53 - 11:57Animals are more and more
taking space in our imagination, -
11:57 - 11:59on the political agenda;
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11:59 - 12:03and environmental awareness
and animal protection standards -
12:03 - 12:04are higher than ever.
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12:06 - 12:10There are more and more alternatives
for animal products, -
12:10 - 12:12and their well-being is mentioned
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12:12 - 12:16even in the credits of movies
and on shampoo bottles. -
12:18 - 12:23In other words, animals are entering
the human-centered world -
12:23 - 12:24in unprecedented ways.
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12:27 - 12:28But where do we go from here?
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12:28 - 12:30Should we envision times
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12:30 - 12:35when the golden rule of ethics to treat
others as you would wish to be treated -
12:37 - 12:42applies not just to humans,
but also to at least some other species? -
12:44 - 12:47We might even go much further,
envisioning times -
12:47 - 12:51when the wolf and the lamb
would peacefully dwell together -
12:51 - 12:54like in the biblical scene of paradise.
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12:55 - 12:59Our imagination is boundless,
and it can bring us quite far. -
12:59 - 13:04Did you know that once, at least once,
humans even tried animals in courts? -
13:05 - 13:10In 1457, a pig and her piglets
were accused of a murder of a child. -
13:10 - 13:14The mother pig was found guilty,
but her babies innocent. -
13:15 - 13:17It really happened, a serious court case.
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13:17 - 13:20Or, consider the story
sometimes told to children, -
13:20 - 13:22especially when they ask
too many questions -
13:22 - 13:24about our treatment of animals.
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13:24 - 13:29They are told that in exchange
for food, safety and shelter, -
13:29 - 13:34cows agree to give us their milk,
chickens agree to give us their eggs, -
13:34 - 13:38and pigs agree to give us
their flesh and their babies, and so on. -
13:38 - 13:39Even as adults,
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13:39 - 13:43we keep saying sometimes that animals
are giving us all those things, -
13:43 - 13:47although it's clear that we are
the ones who make those choices. -
13:48 - 13:54So, surely, this story should be
in the same book of historic curiosities -
13:54 - 13:56as the story about the pig in the court.
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13:58 - 14:02But on the other hand, we have
also been, historically, really successful -
14:02 - 14:07at denying animal emotions
and animal sentience, mental skills, -
14:07 - 14:13so we need to find a balance
between those extremes -
14:13 - 14:15with the best new evidence that we have.
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14:18 - 14:20Of course, there will be serious dilemmas.
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14:20 - 14:23Suppose that a driverless car
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14:23 - 14:28is programmed to estimate
various risks of collisions. -
14:28 - 14:31It is driving, and suddenly,
a piglet is crossing the road: -
14:31 - 14:35What should the car's programming
be in such a case? -
14:35 - 14:37Should it try not to hit
the piglet at any cost, -
14:37 - 14:39even to the humans in the car,
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14:39 - 14:43or should it run over the piglet
only as a last resort to save humans? -
14:44 - 14:49Or should this piglet be sacrificed
even if the car is empty -
14:49 - 14:51to avoid the damage costs?
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14:52 - 14:54What is the value of a pig's life?
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14:57 - 15:00Actually, such decisions are made
every day already now. -
15:01 - 15:05Because it's not animals who make
those choices and decisions, it's us; -
15:05 - 15:09it's not them who rule the world,
we kind of do, -
15:10 - 15:14and we decide which animals exist
and in what conditions. -
15:15 - 15:20So I guess with such great power
also comes great responsibility. -
15:24 - 15:29I believe in humanity, I believe
in humankind, in human kindness. -
15:30 - 15:34I believe that we can exercise
this great power that we have -
15:34 - 15:37in an intelligent and kind way.
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15:38 - 15:42Otherwise, I wouldn't come
and stand up here. -
15:44 - 15:46Many animal-related issues
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15:46 - 15:48are already becoming
less and less controversial. -
15:49 - 15:52They are based upon
the simple value of kindness, -
15:52 - 15:56the simple idea
of not harming unnecessarily. -
15:58 - 16:01And I see human kind already mobilizing.
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16:01 - 16:06Like, we know that we will not die of cold
just because we are not wearing fur coats, -
16:06 - 16:09so the fur farms are slowly closing down.
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16:09 - 16:12We found ways of making safe cosmetics,
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16:12 - 16:14so there is no need
to test them on animals. -
16:15 - 16:21We learned that we can enjoy circus shows
without exploiting and caging animals, -
16:22 - 16:26so the circus is changing
right in front of our eyes, right? -
16:28 - 16:32But still, there is a huge problem,
the biggest problem, -
16:32 - 16:36the elephant in the room,
or should we say, the pig in the room. -
16:37 - 16:43Why are we still treating animals -
cows, pigs, chickens and so many others - -
16:43 - 16:47as if they were not individuals,
but things for consumption? -
16:51 - 16:56They are sentient beings who can feel joy,
feel fear, pain and many other things. -
16:57 - 16:59If we know all that,
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16:59 - 17:02why are we still sticking forks
in their bodies? -
17:02 - 17:05Is it still a matter of survival for us
in the 21st century? -
17:07 - 17:11I think there are already
ways to live well -
17:11 - 17:13with nothing taken away from animals,
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17:13 - 17:15and in less than a hundred years,
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17:15 - 17:18eating animals might be
just as unimaginable -
17:18 - 17:22as cannibalism or slavery
or witch burning is right now. -
17:25 - 17:27Even today,
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17:27 - 17:32I believe if humanity, each one of us,
would notice and accept -
17:32 - 17:36that each animal is someone,
not something, -
17:36 - 17:38we would stop making excuses.
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17:39 - 17:44And knowing how kindly many of us
treat cats and dogs, -
17:44 - 17:46it's obvious that we already
have it inside of us. -
17:49 - 17:54So let's allow kindness,
this essence of being a human, -
17:54 - 17:55to guide us,
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17:55 - 17:56let's embrace it fully
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17:56 - 18:01without discriminating
dogs, cats, pigs, cows. -
18:03 - 18:05Kindness will lead us away
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18:05 - 18:10from causing suffering
and causing pain and harm, -
18:10 - 18:13and not just to humans,
but also to other animals. -
18:15 - 18:16Thank you.
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18:16 - 18:19(Applause)
- Title:
- The elephant in the room: a look at animal rights | Sandris Ādminis | TEDxRiga
- Description:
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They are present in countless areas of our lives – from our daily dose of lolcats to state-of-the-art pig organ donors, and even considered our distant relatives according to Darwin and scientific discoveries. Their wellbeing is a topic that has been taken up at the political and humanitarian level, and mentioned in the end titles of movies and on the backs of shampoo bottles. With this in mind, to what extent should we challenge our traditional practices that treat animals as things to be used for human benefit?
Sandris Ādminis is a social activist and producer of the Zootehnikums broadcast on the NABA radio station, a show that reports on human-animal relations. Sandris is interested in the possibilities of increasing the visibility of animal‑related issues. He is a member of an animal advocacy social movement in Latvia, has contributed to Wikipedia, participated in public debates, given talks to school students and co‑founded the Dzīvnieku brīvība [Animal Freedom] animal rights organization. Sandris is passionate about ideas, music, unknown places, and unresolvable questions.
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Hélène Vernet
12:46 ---> would peacefully dwell together
Leonardo Silva
Thanks, Hélène. Subtitle 12:46 is now fixed.