Want to help someone? Shut up and listen!
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0:01 - 0:05Everything I do, and everything I do professionally --
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0:05 - 0:09my life -- has been shaped
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0:09 - 0:15by seven years of work as a young man in Africa.
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0:15 - 0:18From 1971 to 1977 --
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0:18 - 0:22I look young, but I'm not — (Laughter) --
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0:22 - 0:27I worked in Zambia, Kenya, Ivory Coast, Algeria, Somalia,
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0:27 - 0:31in projects of technical cooperation with African countries.
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0:31 - 0:34I worked for an Italian NGO,
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0:34 - 0:40and every single project that we set up in Africa
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0:40 - 0:44failed.
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0:44 - 0:48And I was distraught.
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0:48 - 0:52I thought, age 21, that we Italians were good people
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0:52 - 0:56and we were doing good work in Africa.
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0:56 - 1:03Instead, everything we touched we killed.
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1:03 - 1:08Our first project, the one that has inspired my first book,
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1:08 - 1:11"Ripples from the Zambezi,"
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1:11 - 1:13was a project where we Italians
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1:13 - 1:19decided to teach Zambian people how to grow food.
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1:19 - 1:23So we arrived there with Italian seeds in southern Zambia
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1:23 - 1:27in this absolutely magnificent valley
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1:27 - 1:30going down to the Zambezi River,
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1:30 - 1:34and we taught the local people how to grow Italian tomatoes
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1:34 - 1:37and zucchini and ...
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1:37 - 1:39And of course the local people had absolutely no interest
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1:39 - 1:42in doing that, so we paid them to come and work,
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1:42 - 1:46and sometimes they would show up. (Laughter)
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1:46 - 1:49And we were amazed that the local people,
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1:49 - 1:52in such a fertile valley, would not have any agriculture.
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1:52 - 1:55But instead of asking them how come they were not
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1:55 - 1:59growing anything, we simply said, "Thank God we're here." (Laughter)
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1:59 - 2:04"Just in the nick of time to save the Zambian people from starvation."
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2:04 - 2:07And of course, everything in Africa grew beautifully.
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2:07 - 2:10We had these magnificent tomatoes. In Italy, a tomato
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2:10 - 2:13would grow to this size. In Zambia, to this size.
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2:13 - 2:16And we could not believe, and we were telling the Zambians,
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2:16 - 2:19"Look how easy agriculture is."
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2:19 - 2:22When the tomatoes were nice and ripe and red,
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2:22 - 2:25overnight, some 200 hippos came out from the river
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2:25 - 2:29and they ate everything. (Laughter)
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2:29 - 2:34And we said to the Zambians, "My God, the hippos!"
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2:34 - 2:39And the Zambians said, "Yes, that's why we have no agriculture here." (Laughter)
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2:39 - 2:45"Why didn't you tell us?""You never asked."
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2:45 - 2:51I thought it was only us Italians blundering around Africa,
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2:51 - 2:53but then I saw what the Americans were doing,
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2:53 - 2:56what the English were doing, what the French were doing,
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2:56 - 2:59and after seeing what they were doing,
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2:59 - 3:02I became quite proud of our project in Zambia.
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3:02 - 3:07Because, you see, at least we fed the hippos.
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3:07 - 3:11You should see the rubbish — (Applause) --
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3:11 - 3:14You should see the rubbish that we have bestowed
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3:14 - 3:16on unsuspecting African people.
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3:16 - 3:17You want to read the book,
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3:17 - 3:22read "Dead Aid," by Dambisa Moyo,
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3:22 - 3:25Zambian woman economist.
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3:25 - 3:27The book was published in 2009.
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3:27 - 3:32We Western donor countries have given the African continent
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3:32 - 3:37two trillion American dollars in the last 50 years.
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3:37 - 3:41I'm not going to tell you the damage that that money has done.
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3:41 - 3:43Just go and read her book.
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3:43 - 3:51Read it from an African woman, the damage that we have done.
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3:51 - 3:57We Western people are imperialist, colonialist missionaries,
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3:57 - 4:01and there are only two ways we deal with people:
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4:01 - 4:05We either patronize them, or we are paternalistic.
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4:05 - 4:08The two words come from the Latin root "pater,"
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4:08 - 4:10which means "father."
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4:10 - 4:14But they mean two different things.
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4:14 - 4:18Paternalistic, I treat anybody from a different culture
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4:18 - 4:23as if they were my children. "I love you so much."
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4:23 - 4:28Patronizing, I treat everybody from another culture
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4:28 - 4:30as if they were my servants.
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4:30 - 4:36That's why the white people in Africa are called "bwana," boss.
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4:36 - 4:40I was given a slap in the face reading a book,
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4:40 - 4:45"Small is Beautiful," written by Schumacher, who said,
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4:45 - 4:48above all in economic development, if people
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4:48 - 4:52do not wish to be helped, leave them alone.
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4:52 - 4:55This should be the first principle of aid.
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4:55 - 4:59The first principle of aid is respect.
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4:59 - 5:01This morning, the gentleman who opened this conference
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5:01 - 5:05lay a stick on the floor, and said,
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5:05 - 5:10"Can we -- can you imagine a city
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5:10 - 5:13that is not neocolonial?"
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5:13 - 5:18I decided when I was 27 years old
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5:18 - 5:22to only respond to people,
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5:22 - 5:26and I invented a system called Enterprise Facilitation,
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5:26 - 5:30where you never initiate anything,
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5:30 - 5:34you never motivate anybody, but you become a servant
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5:34 - 5:37of the local passion, the servant of local people
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5:37 - 5:42who have a dream to become a better person.
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5:42 - 5:46So what you do -- you shut up.
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5:46 - 5:50You never arrive in a community with any ideas,
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5:50 - 5:54and you sit with the local people.
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5:54 - 5:57We don't work from offices.
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5:57 - 6:01We meet at the cafe. We meet at the pub.
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6:01 - 6:04We have zero infrastructure.
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6:04 - 6:07And what we do, we become friends,
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6:07 - 6:12and we find out what that person wants to do.
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6:12 - 6:14The most important thing is passion.
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6:14 - 6:16You can give somebody an idea.
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6:16 - 6:18If that person doesn't want to do it,
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6:18 - 6:21what are you going to do?
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6:21 - 6:26The passion that the person has for her own growth
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6:26 - 6:28is the most important thing.
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6:28 - 6:32The passion that that man has for his own personal growth
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6:32 - 6:34is the most important thing.
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6:34 - 6:37And then we help them to go and find the knowledge,
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6:37 - 6:42because nobody in the world can succeed alone.
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6:42 - 6:45The person with the idea may not have the knowledge,
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6:45 - 6:47but the knowledge is available.
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6:47 - 6:51So years and years ago, I had this idea:
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6:51 - 6:55Why don't we, for once, instead of arriving in the community
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6:55 - 7:00to tell people what to do, why don't, for once,
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7:00 - 7:05listen to them? But not in community meetings.
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7:05 - 7:10Let me tell you a secret.
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7:10 - 7:14There is a problem with community meetings.
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7:14 - 7:18Entrepreneurs never come,
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7:18 - 7:21and they never tell you, in a public meeting,
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7:21 - 7:25what they want to do with their own money,
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7:25 - 7:28what opportunity they have identified.
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7:28 - 7:33So planning has this blind spot.
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7:33 - 7:38The smartest people in your community you don't even know,
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7:38 - 7:45because they don't come to your public meetings.
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7:45 - 7:49What we do, we work one-on-one,
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7:49 - 7:51and to work one-on-one, you have to create
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7:51 - 7:54a social infrastructure that doesn't exist.
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7:54 - 7:56You have to create a new profession.
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7:56 - 8:02The profession is the family doctor of enterprise,
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8:02 - 8:05the family doctor of business, who sits with you
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8:05 - 8:09in your house, at your kitchen table, at the cafe,
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8:09 - 8:13and helps you find the resources to transform your passion
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8:13 - 8:15into a way to make a living.
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8:15 - 8:20I started this as a tryout in Esperance, in Western Australia.
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8:20 - 8:23I was a doing a Ph.D. at the time,
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8:23 - 8:27trying to go away from this patronizing bullshit
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8:27 - 8:31that we arrive and tell you what to do.
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8:31 - 8:35And so what I did in Esperance that first year
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8:35 - 8:40was to just walk the streets, and in three days
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8:40 - 8:43I had my first client, and I helped this first guy
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8:43 - 8:47who was smoking fish from a garage, was a Maori guy,
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8:47 - 8:51and I helped him to sell to the restaurant in Perth,
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8:51 - 8:54to get organized, and then the fishermen came to me to say,
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8:54 - 8:57"You the guy who helped Maori? Can you help us?"
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8:57 - 9:00And I helped these five fishermen to work together
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9:00 - 9:04and get this beautiful tuna not to the cannery in Albany
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9:04 - 9:08for 60 cents a kilo, but we found a way
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9:08 - 9:13to take the fish for sushi to Japan for 15 dollars a kilo,
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9:13 - 9:15and the farmers came to talk to me, said,
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9:15 - 9:17"Hey, you helped them. Can you help us?"
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9:17 - 9:20In a year, I had 27 projects going on,
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9:20 - 9:22and the government came to see me to say,
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9:22 - 9:24"How can you do that?
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9:24 - 9:28How can you do — ?" And I said, "I do something very, very, very difficult.
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9:28 - 9:33I shut up, and listen to them." (Laughter)
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9:33 - 9:42So — (Applause) —
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9:42 - 9:46So the government says, "Do it again." (Laughter)
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9:46 - 9:49We've done it in 300 communities around the world.
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9:49 - 9:53We have helped to start 40,000 businesses.
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9:53 - 9:55There is a new generation of entrepreneurs
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9:55 - 9:57who are dying of solitude.
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9:57 - 10:03Peter Drucker, one of the greatest management consultants in history,
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10:03 - 10:08died age 96, a few years ago.
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10:08 - 10:10Peter Drucker was a professor of philosophy
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10:10 - 10:12before becoming involved in business,
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10:12 - 10:15and this is what Peter Drucker says:
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10:15 - 10:20"Planning is actually incompatible
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10:20 - 10:24with an entrepreneurial society and economy."
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10:24 - 10:31Planning is the kiss of death of entrepreneurship.
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10:31 - 10:33So now you're rebuilding Christchurch
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10:33 - 10:37without knowing what the smartest people in Christchurch
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10:37 - 10:42want to do with their own money and their own energy.
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10:42 - 10:45You have to learn how to get these people
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10:45 - 10:48to come and talk to you.
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10:48 - 10:53You have to offer them confidentiality, privacy,
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10:53 - 10:56you have to be fantastic at helping them,
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10:56 - 11:00and then they will come, and they will come in droves.
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11:00 - 11:03In a community of 10,000 people, we get 200 clients.
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11:03 - 11:06Can you imagine a community of 400,000 people,
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11:06 - 11:08the intelligence and the passion?
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11:08 - 11:12Which presentation have you applauded the most this morning?
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11:12 - 11:18Local, passionate people. That's who you have applauded.
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11:18 - 11:23So what I'm saying is that
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11:23 - 11:25entrepreneurship is where it's at.
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11:25 - 11:28We are at the end of the first industrial revolution --
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11:28 - 11:32nonrenewable fossil fuels, manufacturing --
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11:32 - 11:36and all of a sudden, we have systems which are not sustainable.
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11:36 - 11:39The internal combustion engine is not sustainable.
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11:39 - 11:42Freon way of maintaining things is not sustainable.
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11:42 - 11:45What we have to look at is at how we
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11:45 - 11:51feed, cure, educate, transport, communicate
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11:51 - 11:55for seven billion people in a sustainable way.
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11:55 - 11:59The technologies do not exist to do that.
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11:59 - 12:02Who is going to invent the technology
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12:02 - 12:09for the green revolution? Universities? Forget about it!
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12:09 - 12:11Government? Forget about it!
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12:11 - 12:17It will be entrepreneurs, and they're doing it now.
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12:17 - 12:20There's a lovely story that I read in a futurist magazine
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12:20 - 12:21many, many years ago.
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12:21 - 12:23There was a group of experts who were invited
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12:23 - 12:28to discuss the future of the city of New York in 1860.
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12:28 - 12:31And in 1860, this group of people came together,
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12:31 - 12:34and they all speculated about what would happen
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12:34 - 12:35to the city of New York in 100 years,
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12:35 - 12:37and the conclusion was unanimous:
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12:37 - 12:41The city of New York would not exist in 100 years.
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12:41 - 12:43Why? Because they looked at the curve and said,
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12:43 - 12:46if the population keeps growing at this rate,
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12:46 - 12:50to move the population of New York around,
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12:50 - 12:53they would have needed six million horses,
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12:53 - 12:56and the manure created by six million horses
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12:56 - 12:59would be impossible to deal with.
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12:59 - 13:04They were already drowning in manure. (Laughter)
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13:04 - 13:09So 1860, they are seeing this dirty technology
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13:09 - 13:14that is going to choke the life out of New York.
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13:14 - 13:19So what happens? In 40 years' time, in the year 1900,
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13:19 - 13:24in the United States of America, there were 1,001
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13:24 - 13:30car manufacturing companies -- 1,001.
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13:30 - 13:34The idea of finding a different technology
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13:34 - 13:36had absolutely taken over,
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13:36 - 13:41and there were tiny, tiny little factories in backwaters.
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13:41 - 13:47Dearborn, Michigan. Henry Ford.
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13:47 - 13:51However, there is a secret to work with entrepreneurs.
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13:51 - 13:55First, you have to offer them confidentiality.
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13:55 - 13:57Otherwise they don't come and talk to you.
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13:57 - 14:01Then you have to offer them absolute, dedicated,
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14:01 - 14:05passionate service to them.
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14:05 - 14:08And then you have to tell them the truth about entrepreneurship.
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14:08 - 14:11The smallest company, the biggest company,
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14:11 - 14:15has to be capable of doing three things beautifully:
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14:15 - 14:19The product that you want to sell has to be fantastic,
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14:19 - 14:23you have to have fantastic marketing,
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14:23 - 14:26and you have to have tremendous financial management.
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14:26 - 14:29Guess what?
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14:29 - 14:31We have never met a single human being
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14:31 - 14:37in the world who can make it, sell it and look after the money.
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14:37 - 14:40It doesn't exist.
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14:40 - 14:42This person has never been born.
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14:42 - 14:45We've done the research, and we have looked
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14:45 - 14:49at the 100 iconic companies of the world --
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14:49 - 14:53Carnegie, Westinghouse, Edison, Ford,
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14:53 - 14:56all the new companies, Google, Yahoo.
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14:56 - 14:59There's only one thing that all the successful companies
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14:59 - 15:02in the world have in common, only one:
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15:02 - 15:07None were started by one person.
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15:07 - 15:11Now we teach entrepreneurship to 16-year-olds
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15:11 - 15:15in Northumberland, and we start the class
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15:15 - 15:19by giving them the first two pages of Richard Branson's autobiography,
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15:19 - 15:23and the task of the 16-year-olds is to underline,
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15:23 - 15:27in the first two pages of Richard Branson's autobiography
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15:27 - 15:30how many times Richard uses the word "I"
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15:30 - 15:32and how many times he uses the word "we."
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15:32 - 15:37Never the word "I," and the word "we" 32 times.
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15:37 - 15:40He wasn't alone when he started.
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15:40 - 15:45Nobody started a company alone. No one.
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15:45 - 15:49So we can create the community
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15:49 - 15:52where we have facilitators who come from a small business background
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15:52 - 15:59sitting in cafes, in bars, and your dedicated buddies
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15:59 - 16:03who will do to you, what somebody did for this gentleman
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16:03 - 16:06who talks about this epic,
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16:06 - 16:09somebody who will say to you, "What do you need?
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16:09 - 16:11What can you do? Can you make it?
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16:11 - 16:13Okay, can you sell it? Can you look after the money?"
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16:13 - 16:17"Oh, no, I cannot do this.""Would you like me to find you somebody?"
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16:17 - 16:19We activate communities.
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16:19 - 16:23We have groups of volunteers supporting the Enterprise Facilitator
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16:23 - 16:26to help you to find resources and people
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16:26 - 16:29and we have discovered that the miracle
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16:29 - 16:31of the intelligence of local people is such
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16:31 - 16:35that you can change the culture and the economy
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16:35 - 16:39of this community just by capturing the passion,
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16:39 - 16:43the energy and imagination of your own people.
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16:43 - 16:48Thank you. (Applause)
- Title:
- Want to help someone? Shut up and listen!
- Speaker:
- Ernesto Sirolli
- Description:
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When most well-intentioned aid workers hear of a problem they think they can fix, they go to work. This, Ernesto Sirolli suggests, is naïve. In this funny and impassioned talk, he proposes that the first step is to listen to the people you're trying to help, and tap into their own entrepreneurial spirit. His advice on what works will help any entrepreneur.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 17:09
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