What children (and everyone else) need to read | Donna Jo Napoli | TEDxSwarthmore
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0:06 - 0:08I'm very happy to be here,
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0:08 - 0:11very happy to see your beautiful faces.
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0:12 - 0:15In 2008, I gave a presentation
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0:15 - 0:19to a librarian group
in Salt Lake City, Utah, -
0:19 - 0:23and afterwards, someone
stood up and asked me -
0:23 - 0:27why I write about
such terrible things for children. -
0:27 - 0:29It was not a friendly question.
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0:29 - 0:30(Laughter)
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0:31 - 0:36There are many reasons
why books get challenged -
0:36 - 0:39with the hopes of banning them,
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0:39 - 0:42the 12 most frequent being:
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0:42 - 0:44offensive language,
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0:44 - 0:46explicit sexual descriptions,
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0:46 - 0:51incidents of violence
or brutality, including rape, -
0:51 - 0:54disparagement of family values,
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0:54 - 0:58treatment of satanism,
via cult or witchcraft, -
0:58 - 1:01New Age anti-religious stories,
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1:01 - 1:03examples of racism,
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1:03 - 1:05examples of substance abuse,
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1:05 - 1:10materials that include
depressing or morbid topics, -
1:10 - 1:13attacks on patriotism,
or established authority, -
1:13 - 1:16texts that include anti-feminism or sexism,
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1:16 - 1:20and derogatory imagines of the handicapped.
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1:22 - 1:24I can understand why people
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1:24 - 1:28who work with and live with children
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1:28 - 1:34might assume the right
and responsibility to protect them. -
1:34 - 1:37Children are vulnerable,
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1:37 - 1:40their brains are different.
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1:40 - 1:44And people may think
that by controlling the way -
1:44 - 1:50in which children encounter
the things on this list, -
1:50 - 1:53they are protecting them.
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1:55 - 1:59Certainly, one can see
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1:59 - 2:03how the things on this list are important.
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2:03 - 2:05Look at sexuality,
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2:05 - 2:10when sexual experiences,
whether real or imagined, -
2:10 - 2:13can influence your sexual identity,
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2:13 - 2:16and your sexual identity can affect
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2:16 - 2:21whether or not you are able
to form a lasting relationship -
2:21 - 2:23that can carry you through life.
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2:23 - 2:25Look at religion.
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2:25 - 2:28If you are a person of faith,
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2:28 - 2:31you may very well want to make sure
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2:31 - 2:33that the children that you love
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2:33 - 2:36share this faith.
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2:36 - 2:40I understand these things.
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2:40 - 2:44Yet, I write about all the things
that are on this list. -
2:45 - 2:48I have a book called
"Song of the Magdalene," -
2:48 - 2:51that takes place in the first century,
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2:51 - 2:54in the land we now call Israel.
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2:54 - 2:57The main character has epilepsy,
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2:57 - 3:00she falls in love with someone
who has cerebral palsy. -
3:00 - 3:02In that time and place,
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3:02 - 3:06people with physical
and mental maladies were pariahs, -
3:06 - 3:12so there is quite a lot
of derogatory images of the handicapped. -
3:12 - 3:14And the main character is raped.
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3:14 - 3:16In "Alligator Bayou,"
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3:17 - 3:22which takes place in 1899
in Tallulah, Louisiana, -
3:22 - 3:25we are in the middle
of the Jim Crow South. -
3:25 - 3:29The society is stratified
along racial lines. -
3:29 - 3:32Sexism, my goodness,
nobody was even aware of it! -
3:32 - 3:35The book is full of racism and sexism,
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3:35 - 3:37and there is a lynching.
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3:38 - 3:44In "Three days," which is a story
that takes place contemporaneously, -
3:44 - 3:49a little American girl
is driving with her father in Italy. -
3:49 - 3:51He has a heart attack,
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3:51 - 3:55he manages to pull off
the side of the road safely, -
3:55 - 3:56but he dies,
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3:56 - 3:58and this little girl is waiting
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3:58 - 4:00until someone finally picks her up.
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4:00 - 4:02And the people who pick her up,
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4:02 - 4:05want her for their own reasons.
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4:05 - 4:08So, why on earth do I do these things?
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4:08 - 4:13You know, the last thing I want
to do, as a writer for children, -
4:13 - 4:14is hurt my reader.
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4:14 - 4:17I love to tell a good story,
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4:17 - 4:23a funny, scary, mysterious, whatever story
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4:23 - 4:26but terrible things draw me.
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4:26 - 4:28Am I hurting children?
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4:28 - 4:30Let's look at the child
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4:30 - 4:33who is growing up with plenty to eat,
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4:33 - 4:36good food, her own bed,
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4:36 - 4:39a place to study,
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4:39 - 4:43she goes to a school where the teacher
cares about what she's learning -
4:43 - 4:48and works very hard to make it a good day.
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4:48 - 4:52There are people who talk
to her and listen to her, -
4:52 - 4:54and she can talk to them.
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4:54 - 4:57This is a loved child.
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4:57 - 4:59This is a protected child.
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4:59 - 5:01Let me set this child aside
for the moment. -
5:01 - 5:03And let's look at the child
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5:03 - 5:06who maybe doesn't have
her own bed to sleep in, -
5:06 - 5:08maybe doesn't sleep that well,
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5:08 - 5:10maybe there is no blanket
to keep her warm, -
5:10 - 5:13maybe she went to bed hungry,
she wakes up hungry, -
5:13 - 5:17she goes to an underfunded,
overcrowded school. -
5:17 - 5:20Maybe she's very much loved,
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5:20 - 5:23but the socio-economics
of the situation are such -
5:23 - 5:28that she is battling
a number of things constantly. -
5:28 - 5:30And then, there are other children,
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5:31 - 5:33who are not so much loved.
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5:33 - 5:36And this has nothing to do
with socio-economic status -
5:36 - 5:39or race, or religion, or ethnicity,
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5:39 - 5:40none of that.
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5:40 - 5:46We all know that all kinds of things
happen behind closed doors -
5:46 - 5:49in every sector of our society.
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5:49 - 5:52So these are the unprotected children.
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5:52 - 5:55What happens to an unprotected child
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5:55 - 5:57when they read a book
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5:57 - 6:02in which the main character
is also unprotected? -
6:03 - 6:04One things that happens,
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6:04 - 6:08is that they find out
that they are not alone. -
6:08 - 6:13Children often do not talk
about the problems that they have. -
6:13 - 6:15Sometimes because they know
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6:15 - 6:17they can't do anything about it,
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6:17 - 6:19so, what's the point of talking about it?
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6:19 - 6:21Sometimes, because they are loyal
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6:21 - 6:24to the people that they love.
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6:24 - 6:27Sometimes it could be because of fear.
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6:27 - 6:31If you tell and people believe you,
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6:31 - 6:34maybe you'll be snatched from
your family, and then what? -
6:34 - 6:37And if you tell and people
don't believe you, -
6:37 - 6:41then you have to go back
to the situation you were in, -
6:41 - 6:44and deal with the people
who know that you told on them. -
6:44 - 6:47It could be much worse.
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6:47 - 6:49So, there you are!
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6:49 - 6:53You are alone, and you don't know
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6:53 - 6:56what other people are dealing with.
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6:56 - 7:00There, in a book, you find out!
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7:00 - 7:02This person talks to you in a way
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7:02 - 7:05that maybe no one else
in your life talks to you, -
7:05 - 7:08in a more intimate way!
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7:08 - 7:11If you have done something terrible,
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7:11 - 7:16really done it or just imagined it,
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7:16 - 7:19you may think you are an awful person,
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7:19 - 7:21and there, in a book, you'll find out
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7:21 - 7:24that absolutely ordinary people
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7:24 - 7:27do terrible things
and think terrible thoughts. -
7:27 - 7:31There's no one as lonely
as a child who thinks -
7:31 - 7:34that she's the worst person ever.
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7:34 - 7:37In a book you find out
that you are not alone. -
7:37 - 7:42If terrible things are happening to you
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7:42 - 7:46and you don't know
they happened to other people, -
7:46 - 7:49you can feel that maybe
there's something about you -
7:49 - 7:52that make them happen to you!
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7:52 - 7:54Maybe there is something wrong with you.
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7:54 - 7:56Maybe it's your fault.
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7:56 - 7:59You can suffer guilt.
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7:59 - 8:03There, in a book, you see this child
did nothing to make it happen to her! -
8:03 - 8:05But it's still happened.
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8:05 - 8:10Terrible things happen
to good people all the time. -
8:10 - 8:12It's very comforting.
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8:12 - 8:14Or you may think
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8:14 - 8:16that you're the only one it's happening to
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8:16 - 8:19and you develop
a big chip on your shoulder, -
8:19 - 8:21you're angry about it,
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8:21 - 8:24you don't understand
that lots of people around you -
8:24 - 8:28are coping with things
that they are not talking about either. -
8:28 - 8:33So, it can give you
a wonderful perspective -
8:33 - 8:37that allows you some consolation.
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8:37 - 8:40Another thing that reading
these books can do, -
8:40 - 8:43is give you hints, help
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8:43 - 8:45in coping with your situation.
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8:45 - 8:49Not that these books are going to deal
with the same situation that you're in, -
8:49 - 8:51they may be dealing with something
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8:51 - 8:54that's very different
from what you are in. -
8:54 - 8:59But you see somebody persisting,
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8:59 - 9:02being resilient,
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9:02 - 9:07being resourceful,
looking for help in different places, -
9:07 - 9:13and it gives you some ideas
of how you might go about -
9:13 - 9:16trying to manage.
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9:16 - 9:20Now, sometimes,
the problems that a child faces -
9:20 - 9:23are child-sized problems,
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9:23 - 9:27and are something
that the child can influence. -
9:27 - 9:29But sometimes, they are not!
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9:29 - 9:35Children are our least
powerful members of society. -
9:35 - 9:38So, these books over here,
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9:38 - 9:41they better not be saying
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9:41 - 9:46that the child can solve
an enormous problem. -
9:46 - 9:48Richard Pak,
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9:48 - 9:52one of the wonderful writers for children,
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9:52 - 9:54says: "Writers for children
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9:54 - 9:58cannot afford to traffic in happy endings,
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9:58 - 10:03because if we do, we risk leaving
our reader undefended." -
10:03 - 10:06It is very important for the child
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10:06 - 10:12who is in a situation
that they cannot change, -
10:12 - 10:14to see what happens to a child
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10:14 - 10:18in another situation
that they cannot change. -
10:18 - 10:20It is my job,
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10:20 - 10:24or I think it is my job
when I am writing a story, -
10:24 - 10:26to let a child know that
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10:26 - 10:30you may not be able to change your world,
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10:30 - 10:34but with hard work and good will,
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10:34 - 10:40you will be able to find a way
to live decently within your world, -
10:40 - 10:44even if it's only inside your head.
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10:44 - 10:48Hope, peace, even joy,
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10:48 - 10:54can be a strictly internal matter,
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10:54 - 10:58an it's very important
for children to see that! -
10:58 - 11:05So, these books can be a life line
to the unprotected child. -
11:06 - 11:10And now let's take
the child that is protected, -
11:10 - 11:12and take a look at this child!
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11:12 - 11:17I want to argue that this child
needs those books even more. -
11:17 - 11:21For one, the child
will not always be protected, -
11:21 - 11:26you cannot put your child
in a cotton-lined box for life. -
11:26 - 11:31The child will burst out,
the box will be crushed from outside. -
11:31 - 11:34Things happen to people.
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11:34 - 11:37We don't live charmed lives,
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11:37 - 11:41and everybody needs
to learn coping skills. -
11:41 - 11:45In the book you can see somebody coping,
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11:45 - 11:50and it can help to prepare you
for when you need to cope. -
11:51 - 11:55But even more than that,
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11:55 - 11:58I think the child who is protected
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11:58 - 12:00really needs these books,
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12:00 - 12:03because without them,
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12:03 - 12:05if this child grows up
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12:05 - 12:09with only good things happening
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12:09 - 12:11and unaware
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12:11 - 12:17that terrible things
can happen to people like them, -
12:17 - 12:25they run the risk of becoming
intolerant and intolerable people. -
12:26 - 12:30They run the risk of walking
past a homeless person, -
12:30 - 12:33who is emaciated,
and perhaps, stinking, -
12:33 - 12:36and thinking, "It's his own damn fault!"
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12:36 - 12:40They think that all the good things
that have happened to them, -
12:40 - 12:43have happened because they merited it,
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12:43 - 12:46they worked hard, they had a good spirit.
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12:46 - 12:50They don't recognize
the role of luck in their lives. -
12:51 - 12:54People can work hard and have good spirits
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12:54 - 12:57and have lousy luck.
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12:57 - 13:02In a book, you crawl
inside the skin of someone else, -
13:02 - 13:05you live what they are living,
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13:05 - 13:08you come to understand it,
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13:08 - 13:10you gain empathy.
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13:10 - 13:14Empathy is the corner stone
of civilization. -
13:14 - 13:18Without empathy, we are each
just in our little spots, -
13:18 - 13:21taking care of ourselves,
and our children. -
13:21 - 13:23Who cares about the neighbor?
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13:23 - 13:28Empathy allows us
to understand why we pay taxes, -
13:28 - 13:31why everybody deserves an education,
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13:31 - 13:36shelter, food, health care.
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13:36 - 13:40Empathy makes us decent people.
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13:40 - 13:44And there is no safer way
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13:44 - 13:47for a child to learn empathy,
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13:47 - 13:49than through a book.
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13:49 - 13:53I want to bring this down to the personal.
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13:55 - 13:56When I was a child,
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13:56 - 14:00my favourite book was
"A Tree Grows in Brooklyn." -
14:00 - 14:04I grew up in a family
with a lot of problems, -
14:04 - 14:06that got realized in a number of ways,
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14:06 - 14:12one of which was
financial insecurity, instability. -
14:12 - 14:16One of my worst memories of childhood was
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14:16 - 14:20coming home in the third grade
to find everything that I owned, -
14:20 - 14:23- and I didn't own that much,
I was just a little third grade kid, -
14:23 - 14:26but everything that I owned,
mattered to me! - -
14:26 - 14:29to find everything that I owned
out on the sidewalk, -
14:29 - 14:33because we have been evicted yet again.
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14:33 - 14:35And I didn't know whether or not,
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14:35 - 14:38anyone else was coping
with this kind of thing. -
14:38 - 14:41Kids didn't talk about it at school.
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14:41 - 14:47But in "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn,"
I saw Francie Nolan coping with poverty. -
14:47 - 14:50It was very consoling to me!
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14:50 - 14:53It gave me a perspective that allowed me
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14:53 - 14:56to enjoy a lot of things about my life.
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14:57 - 14:59In that book, there was also a man,
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14:59 - 15:01at the foot of the stairs,
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15:01 - 15:04who was essentially a monster.
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15:04 - 15:07And Francie was very afraid of him,
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15:07 - 15:10and he had gotten other girls.
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15:10 - 15:12He does not get Francie,
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15:12 - 15:16and I was very glad
that he didn't get Francie. -
15:16 - 15:19I would not have wanted him to.
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15:20 - 15:22But I would have given anything
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15:22 - 15:24to be able to read a book
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15:24 - 15:27about the girl who did not escape
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15:27 - 15:30the man at the foot of the stairs.
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15:30 - 15:33To me, it would have been a lifeline.
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15:34 - 15:38So, those books just were not available.
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15:38 - 15:39Today they are.
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15:39 - 15:42And I am very grateful for that.
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15:42 - 15:44And thank you very much.
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15:44 - 15:45(Applause)
- Title:
- What children (and everyone else) need to read | Donna Jo Napoli | TEDxSwarthmore
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Children's books often are banned because people feel that the vulnerability of childhood gives them the right and responsibility to protect children. They see books that touch on certain topics as dangerous. Although the motivations of these adults are understandable, Napoli argues that the top 12 reasons why books are banned are actually reasons why books should be read. She will wonderfully discuss the unprotected child and the protected child and what these books do for each. - Video Language:
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