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How I fell in love with a fish

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    So, I've known a lot of fish in my life.
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    I've loved only two.
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    That first one,
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    it was more like a passionate affair.
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    It was a beautiful fish:
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    flavorful, textured, meaty,
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    a bestseller on the menu.
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    What a fish.
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    (Laughter)
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    Even better,
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    it was farm-raised to the supposed highest standards
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    of sustainability.
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    So you could feel good about selling it.
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    I was in a relationship with this beauty
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    for several months.
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    One day, the head of the company called
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    and asked if I'd speak at an event
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    about the farm's sustainability.
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    "Absolutely," I said.
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    Here was a company trying to solve
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    what's become this unimaginable problem for us chefs:
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    How do we keep fish on our menus?
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    For the past 50 years,
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    we've been fishing the seas
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    like we clear-cut forests.
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    It's hard to overstate the destruction.
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    Ninety percent of large fish, the ones we love --
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    the tunas, the halibuts, the salmons, swordfish --
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    they've collapsed.
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    There's almost nothing left.
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    So, for better or for worse,
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    aquaculture, fish farming, is going to be a part of our future.
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    A lot of arguments against it:
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    Fish farms pollute -- most of them do anyway --
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    and they're inefficient. Take tuna,
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    a major drawback.
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    It's got a feed conversion ratio
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    of 15 to one.
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    That means it takes fifteen pounds of wild fish
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    to get you one pound of farm tuna.
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    Not very sustainable.
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    It doesn't taste very good either.
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    So here, finally,
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    was a company trying to do it right.
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    I wanted to support them.
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    The day before the event,
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    I called the head of P.R. for the company.
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    Let's call him Don.
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    "Don," I said, "just to get the facts straight, you guys are famous
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    for farming so far out to sea, you don't pollute."
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    "That's right," he said. "We're so far out,
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    the waste from our fish gets distributed,
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    not concentrated."
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    And then he added,
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    "We're basically a world unto ourselves.
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    That feed conversion ratio? 2.5 to one," he said.
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    "Best in the business."
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    2.5 to one, great.
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    "2.5 what? What are you feeding?"
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    "Sustainable proteins," he said.
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    "Great," I said. Got off the phone.
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    And that night, I was lying in bed, and I thought:
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    What the hell is a sustainable protein?
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    (Laughter)
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    So the next day, just before the event, I called Don.
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    I said, "Don, what are some examples of sustainable proteins?"
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    He said he didn't know. He would ask around.
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    Well, I got on the phone with a few people in the company;
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    no one could give me a straight answer
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    until finally, I got on the phone
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    with the head biologist.
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    Let's call him Don too.
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    (Laughter)
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    "Don," I said,
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    "what are some examples of sustainable proteins?"
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    Well, he mentioned some algaes
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    and some fish meals,
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    and then he said chicken pellets.
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    I said, "Chicken pellets?"
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    He said, "Yeah, feathers, skin,
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    bone meal, scraps,
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    dried and processed into feed."
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    I said, "What percentage
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    of your feed is chicken?"
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    Thinking, you know, two percent.
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    "Well, it's about 30 percent," he said.
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    I said, "Don, what's sustainable
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    about feeding chicken to fish?"
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    (Laughter)
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    There was a long pause on the line,
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    and he said, "There's just too much chicken in the world."
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    (Laughter)
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    I fell out of love with this fish.
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    (Laughter)
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    No, not because I'm some self-righteous,
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    goody-two shoes foodie.
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    I actually am.
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    (Laughter)
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    No, I actually fell out of love with this fish because, I swear to God,
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    after that conversation, the fish tasted like chicken.
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    (Laughter)
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    This second fish,
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    it's a different kind of love story.
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    It's the romantic kind,
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    the kind where the more you get to know your fish,
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    you love the fish.
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    I first ate it at a restaurant
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    in southern Spain.
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    A journalist friend had been talking about this fish for a long time.
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    She kind of set us up.
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    (Laughter)
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    It came to the table
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    a bright, almost shimmering, white color.
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    The chef had overcooked it.
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    Like twice over.
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    Amazingly, it was still delicious.
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    Who can make a fish taste good
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    after it's been overcooked?
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    I can't,
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    but this guy can.
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    Let's call him Miguel --
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    actually his name is Miguel.
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    (Laughter)
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    And no, he didn't cook the fish, and he's not a chef,
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    at least in the way that you and I understand it.
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    He's a biologist
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    at Veta La Palma.
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    It's a fish farm in the southwestern corner of Spain.
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    It's at the tip of the Guadalquivir river.
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    Until the 1980s,
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    the farm was in the hands of the Argentinians.
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    They raised beef cattle
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    on what was essentially wetlands.
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    They did it by draining the land.
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    They built this intricate series of canals,
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    and they pushed water off the land and out into the river.
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    Well, they couldn't make it work,
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    not economically.
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    And ecologically, it was a disaster.
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    It killed like 90 percent of the birds,
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    which, for this place, is a lot of birds.
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    And so in 1982,
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    a Spanish company with an environmental conscience
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    purchased the land.
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    What did they do?
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    They reversed the flow of water.
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    They literally flipped the switch.
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    Instead of pushing water out,
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    they used the channels to pull water back in.
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    They flooded the canals.
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    They created a 27,000-acre fish farm --
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    bass, mullet,
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    shrimp, eel --
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    and in the process, Miguel and this company
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    completely reversed the ecological destruction.
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    The farm's incredible.
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    I mean, you've never seen anything like this.
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    You stare out at a horizon
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    that is a million miles away,
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    and all you see are flooded canals
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    and this thick, rich marshland.
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    I was there not long ago with Miguel.
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    He's an amazing guy,
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    like three parts Charles Darwin and one part Crocodile Dundee.
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    (Laughter)
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    Okay? There we are slogging through the wetlands,
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    and I'm panting and sweating, got mud up to my knees,
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    and Miguel's calmly conducting a biology lecture.
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    Here, he's pointing out a rare Black-shouldered Kite.
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    Now, he's mentioning the mineral needs of phytoplankton.
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    And here, here he sees a grouping pattern
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    that reminds him of the Tanzanian Giraffe.
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    It turns out, Miguel spent the better part of his career
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    in the Mikumi National Park in Africa.
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    I asked him how he became
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    such an expert on fish.
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    He said, "Fish? I didn't know anything about fish.
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    I'm an expert in relationships."
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    And then he's off, launching into more talk
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    about rare birds and algaes
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    and strange aquatic plants.
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    And don't get me wrong, that was really fascinating, you know,
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    the biotic community unplugged, kind of thing.
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    It's great, but I was in love.
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    And my head was swooning over that
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    overcooked piece of delicious fish I had the night before.
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    So I interrupted him. I said,
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    "Miguel, what makes your fish taste so good?"
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    He pointed at the algae.
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    "I know, dude, the algae, the phytoplankton,
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    the relationships: It's amazing.
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    But what are your fish eating?
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    What's the feed conversion ratio?"
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    Well, he goes on to tell me
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    it's such a rich system
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    that the fish are eating what they'd be eating in the wild.
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    The plant biomass, the phytoplankton,
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    the zooplankton, it's what feeds the fish.
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    The system is so healthy,
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    it's totally self-renewing.
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    There is no feed.
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    Ever heard of a farm that doesn't feed its animals?
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    Later that day, I was driving around this property with Miguel,
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    and I asked him, I said, "For a place that seems so natural,
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    unlike like any farm I'd ever been at,
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    how do you measure success?"
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    At that moment, it was as if
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    a film director called for a set change.
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    And we rounded the corner
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    and saw the most amazing sight:
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    thousands and thousands of pink flamingos,
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    a literal pink carpet for as far as you could see.
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    "That's success," he said.
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    "Look at their bellies, pink.
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    They're feasting."
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    Feasting? I was totally confused.
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    I said, "Miguel, aren't they feasting on your fish?"
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    (Laughter)
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    "Yes," he said.
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    (Laughter)
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    "We lose 20 percent of our fish
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    and fish eggs to birds.
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    Well, last year, this property
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    had 600,000 birds on it,
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    more than 250 different species.
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    It's become, today, the largest
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    and one of the most important
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    private bird sanctuaries in all of Europe."
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    I said, "Miguel, isn't a thriving bird population
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    like the last thing you want on a fish farm?"
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    (Laughter)
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    He shook his head, no.
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    He said, "We farm extensively,
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    not intensively.
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    This is an ecological network.
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    The flamingos eat the shrimp.
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    The shrimp eat the phytoplankton.
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    So the pinker the belly,
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    the better the system."
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    Okay, so let's review:
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    a farm that doesn't feed its animals,
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    and a farm that measures its success
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    on the health of its predators.
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    A fish farm, but also a bird sanctuary.
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    Oh, and by the way, those flamingos,
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    they shouldn't even be there in the first place.
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    They brood in a town
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    150 miles away,
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    where the soil conditions
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    are better for building nests.
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    Every morning, they fly
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    150 miles into the farm.
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    And every evening, they fly 150 miles back.
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    (Laughter)
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    They do that because they're able to follow
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    the broken white line
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    of highway A92.
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    (Laughter)
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    No kidding.
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    I was imagining a "March of the Penguins" thing,
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    so I looked at Miguel.
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    I said, "Miguel, do they fly
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    150 miles to the farm,
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    and then do they fly
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    150 miles back at night?
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    Do they do that for the children?"
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    He looked at me like I had just quoted a Whitney Houston song.
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    (Laughter)
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    He said, "No; they do it because the food's better."
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    (Laughter)
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    I didn't mention the skin of my beloved fish,
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    which was delicious -- and I don't like fish skin;
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    I don't like it seared, I don't like it crispy.
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    It's that acrid, tar-like flavor.
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    I almost never cook with it.
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    Yet, when I tasted it at that restaurant in southern Spain,
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    it tasted not at all like fish skin.
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    It tasted sweet and clean,
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    like you were taking a bite of the ocean.
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    I mentioned that to Miguel, and he nodded.
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    He said, "The skin acts like a sponge.
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    It's the last defense before anything enters the body.
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    It evolved to soak up impurities."
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    And then he added,
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    "But our water has no impurities."
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    OK. A farm that doesn't feed its fish,
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    a farm that measures its success
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    by the success of its predators.
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    And then I realized when he says,
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    "A farm that has no impurities,"
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    he made a big understatement,
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    because the water that flows through that farm
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    comes in from the Guadalquivir River.
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    It's a river that carries with it
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    all the things that rivers tend to carry these days:
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    chemical contaminants,
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    pesticide runoff.
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    And when it works its way through the system
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    and leaves,
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    the water is cleaner than when it entered.
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    The system is so healthy, it purifies the water.
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    So, not just a farm that doesn't feed its animals,
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    not just a farm that measures its success
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    by the health of its predators,
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    but a farm that's literally a water purification plant --
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    and not just for those fish,
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    but for you and me as well.
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    Because when that water leaves, it dumps out into the Atlantic.
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    A drop in the ocean, I know,
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    but I'll take it, and so should you,
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    because this love story,
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    however romantic,
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    is also instructive.
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    You might say it's a recipe
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    for the future of good food,
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    whether we're talking about bass or beef cattle.
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    What we need now is
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    a radically new conception of agriculture,
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    one in which the food actually tastes good.
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    But for a lot people,
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    that's a bit too radical.
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    We're not realists, us foodies;
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    we're lovers.
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    We love farmers' markets,
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    we love small family farms,
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    we talk about local food,
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    we eat organic.
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    And when you suggest these are the things
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    that will ensure the future of good food,
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    someone, somewhere stands up and says,
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    "Hey guy, I love pink flamingos,
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    but how are you going to feed the world?"
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    How are you going to feed the world?
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    Can I be honest?
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    I don't love that question.
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    No, not because we already produce
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    enough calories to more than feed the world.
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    One billion people will go hungry today.
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    One billion -- that's more than ever before --
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    because of gross inequalities in distribution,
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    not tonnage.
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    Now, I don't love this question because it's determined the logic
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    of our food system for the last 50 years.
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    Feed grain to herbivores,
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    pesticides to monocultures, chemicals to soil,
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    chicken to fish,
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    and all along agribusiness
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    has simply asked,
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    "If we're feeding more people more cheaply,
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    how terrible could that be?"
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    That's been the motivation,
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    it's been the justification:
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    it's been the business plan
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    of American agriculture.
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    We should call it what it is:
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    a business in liquidation,
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    a business that's quickly eroding
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    ecological capital that makes that very production possible.
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    That's not a business,
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    and it isn't agriculture.
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    Our breadbasket is threatened today,
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    not because of diminishing supply,
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    but because of diminishing resources.
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    Not by the latest combine and tractor invention,
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    but by fertile land;
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    not by pumps, but by fresh water;
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    not by chainsaws, but by forests;
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    and not by fishing boats and nets, but by fish in the sea.
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    Want to feed the world?
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    Let's start by asking: How are we going to feed ourselves?
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    Or better: How can we create conditions
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    that enable every community
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    to feed itself?
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    (Applause)
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    To do that,
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    don't look at the agribusiness model for the future.
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    It's really old, and it's tired.
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    It's high on capital, chemistry and machines,
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    and it's never produced anything really good to eat.
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    Instead, let's look to the ecological model.
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    That's the one that relies on two billion years
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    of on-the-job experience.
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    Look to Miguel,
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    farmers like Miguel.
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    Farms that aren't worlds unto themselves;
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    farms that restore instead of deplete;
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    farms that farm extensively
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    instead of just intensively;
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    farmers that are not just producers,
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    but experts in relationships.
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    Because they're the ones
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    that are experts in flavor, too.
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    And if I'm going to be really honest,
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    they're a better chef than I'll ever be.
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    You know, I'm okay with that,
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    because if that's the future of good food, it's going to be delicious.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How I fell in love with a fish
Speaker:
Dan Barber
Description:

Chef Dan Barber squares off with a dilemma facing many chefs today: how to keep fish on the menu. With impeccable research and deadpan humor, he chronicles his pursuit of a sustainable fish he could love, and the foodie's honeymoon he's enjoyed since discovering an outrageously delicious fish raised using a revolutionary farming method in Spain.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
18:41
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