Pandemic runs on the pollution highways | Leonardo Setti | TEDxMantova
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0:13 - 0:14Hello everyone.
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0:14 - 0:16How are you? Everything fine?
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0:17 - 0:20I'm fine in this particular moment, right?
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0:21 - 0:23Also because everyone
came with face masks - -
0:23 - 0:25Me, not really.
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0:25 - 0:28Not so much because
I got infected, three days ago. -
0:30 - 0:33And today I'm sick with Covid.
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0:33 - 0:36But don't worry,
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0:36 - 0:39I see in your eyes a flash of fear.
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0:39 - 0:42No, don't worry, because we are
more than two meters away, -
0:43 - 0:47we are quite distant
from each other, so we are safe. -
0:47 - 0:52If we keep this distance, as in this case,
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0:52 - 0:56my ability to infect you
is basically zero. -
0:57 - 1:03That is, the infection index,
R0, is essentially zero. -
1:03 - 1:05Now let's suppose, instead,
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1:05 - 1:10to take this ball that I will call PM 10,
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1:10 - 1:12like the dust that there is in the air,
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1:12 - 1:14and are, shortly, linked to pollution.
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1:15 - 1:18How are you, PM 10? Everything all right?
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1:18 - 1:20Achoo!
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1:21 - 1:23I infected PM 10.
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1:23 - 1:28Sorry, now I can no longer give
the talk I meant to give. -
1:28 - 1:32I have to change the PM 10 necessarily,
but I can't keep it here. -
1:32 - 1:38Anyone wants to take
my PM 10? Anyone? No one? -
1:38 - 1:41Sorry, would you mind taking my PM 10?
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1:41 - 1:42Here, thanks.
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1:42 - 1:43Thanks so much, thank you!
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1:43 - 1:46She couldn't take it.
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1:46 - 1:47She’s my wife.
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1:47 - 1:50We've been together for a long time,
so there's no problem. -
1:52 - 1:55Now, with this simple gesture,
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1:55 - 2:00I infected a person at a distance
of more than two meters; -
2:00 - 2:02that safe distance
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2:02 - 2:03where I am right now
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2:03 - 2:06is actually not exactly so safe
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2:06 - 2:08because there may be
environmental elements -
2:08 - 2:12that lead me to infect a person
at even greater distances. -
2:12 - 2:16My R0 went from zero to one.
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2:18 - 2:20Now, let's suppose, instead,
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2:20 - 2:23we randomly pick up this PM 10 bin.
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2:23 - 2:27It is not so casual, this PM 10 bin.
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2:27 - 2:30How are you PM 10? Everything all right?
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2:30 - 2:33They always come with me,
PMs accompany everyone a bit. -
2:33 - 2:34Achoo!
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2:36 - 2:41Now I have a small problem:
I have contaminated all my PM10s. -
2:41 - 2:47Now you understand, if I throw
PM 10 on you right now, -
2:48 - 2:53I could risk infecting
many people at the same time, -
2:53 - 2:54more than one.
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2:54 - 3:00So my R0 went from one to three, four.
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3:00 - 3:02Now let's suppose,
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3:02 - 3:05instead of putting an obstacle
between you and me. -
3:05 - 3:06For example a tree, a plant.
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3:07 - 3:10If now I did the same gesture,
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3:10 - 3:13that is, I throw my PM 10,
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3:13 - 3:18you see that the tree would hold my PM 10
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3:18 - 3:21and make them fall back near me.
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3:21 - 3:24That is what we do when there are no trees
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3:24 - 3:26and we wear, for example, a face mask.
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3:26 - 3:30Face masks have the same effect
that a plant, a tree should have. -
3:30 - 3:35This happens because viruses,
in their natural reservoir, -
3:35 - 3:37are in the forests,
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3:37 - 3:41where we have bats, pangolins
and all wild animals. -
3:41 - 3:44These animals in the forests
exchange these viruses; -
3:44 - 3:49and in order to touch these viruses
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3:49 - 3:54we must necessarily enter
these natural reservoirs. -
3:54 - 3:59Or let wild animals come out
of their natural reservoirs -
3:59 - 4:01and come into contact with us,
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4:01 - 4:04as probably happened
in the latest epidemic. -
4:04 - 4:06And therefore we say,
the natural reservoir -
4:06 - 4:09is extremely important,
it must be preserved -
4:09 - 4:10because otherwise the risk
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4:10 - 4:14is that the number of pandemics
may increase over time. -
4:14 - 4:19Now, the second industrial revolution
began about 100 years ago. -
4:19 - 4:21The second industrial revolution
in human history -
4:21 - 4:24was when we began to use oil and gas
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4:24 - 4:26in huge quantities.
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4:26 - 4:28Consider that our spaceship,
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4:28 - 4:29a hundred years ago,
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4:29 - 4:33had a tank full of fossil fuels:
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4:33 - 4:35an unlimited amount of energy,
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4:35 - 4:38for the billion people
who were there at that time. -
4:38 - 4:42The temperature of our ship
was perfect, around 14 degrees, -
4:42 - 4:43as it ought to be;
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4:43 - 4:47and the pressure, the maintenance
of carbon dioxide in the air -
4:47 - 4:50was also absolutely normal:
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4:50 - 4:52around 270 parts per million,
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4:52 - 4:56which means 270 milligrams
per thousand liters of air. -
4:57 - 4:59So let's say it was an ideal condition;
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4:59 - 5:03but it was also an ideal condition
to start our development; -
5:03 - 5:06And indeed, around the 60s,
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5:06 - 5:08we had what is called the economic boom.
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5:08 - 5:10That is, we began to use
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5:10 - 5:13all this amount of energy
that we had in the tank -
5:13 - 5:18to sell cars - the FIAT Cinquecento,
for example, in Italy - -
5:18 - 5:20heat our homes
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5:20 - 5:24and start building objects,
devices, appliances -
5:24 - 5:26that we have brought everywhere;
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5:26 - 5:28and we have also established all the firms
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5:28 - 5:31capable of producing these devices.
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5:31 - 5:34I mean, we just had an explosion.
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5:34 - 5:37We have now gone from one billion people
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5:37 - 5:38to four, five billion.
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5:38 - 5:43Until 2010, which,
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5:43 - 5:46with all this energy available,
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5:46 - 5:49has grown and developed;
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5:49 - 5:52and as it developed,
it had to start occupying the territory. -
5:52 - 5:55And in fact, we began
to occupy the territory. -
5:55 - 5:59You see: the first photograph
is the province of Padua in the '60s; -
5:59 - 6:00in the second photograph
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6:00 - 6:03it is the same province in 2010.
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6:03 - 6:06That is, we really went
to invade the natural niches, -
6:06 - 6:12because it was necessary
to be able to host all men. -
6:12 - 6:15Now, what we have done
for the past 100 years -
6:15 - 6:18is an indiscriminate
exploitation of resources. -
6:18 - 6:21We really drained the reservoir:
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6:21 - 6:24and where we extracted
the resources, we polluted. -
6:25 - 6:28We have also brought
this pollution to our cities. -
6:29 - 6:33Through the devices
we live our cities with: -
6:33 - 6:35cars, heating systems,
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6:35 - 6:37outside the cities
we also have industries. -
6:37 - 6:41That is, we have just created
an almost ideal condition, -
6:41 - 6:47and at the same time we went
to invade the natural reservoirs. -
6:48 - 6:51This, for example,
is the deforestation of Borneo. -
6:51 - 6:56By now, more then half
Borneo forest is gone, -
6:56 - 6:59that means, we have
cut down that rainforest -
6:59 - 7:03to go and grow palm trees
to produce palm oil; -
7:03 - 7:05and through palm oil,
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7:05 - 7:08we feed on cars,
for example, for biodiesel, -
7:08 - 7:11as well as for food;
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7:11 - 7:12but much of it now ends up
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7:12 - 7:15in biodiesel to fuel cars.
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7:16 - 7:18Again, we went to the Amazon forest,
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7:18 - 7:21because we have grown so much:
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7:21 - 7:24we are carnivores, we like meat,
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7:24 - 7:28we need to raise livestock worldwide.
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7:28 - 7:32And so we arrested the Amazon
for... making pastures! -
7:33 - 7:36Yes, man did that too.
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7:36 - 7:39And what happened then?
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7:39 - 7:42Every time we do an operation like this,
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7:42 - 7:45and we destroy that natural reservoir,
that natural niche, -
7:45 - 7:48the animals then come out.
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7:50 - 7:52With their virus downry.
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7:52 - 7:55In fact, viruses are gradually increasing;
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7:55 - 7:58and then the viruses
got in touch with humans, -
7:58 - 7:59because at that point
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7:59 - 8:01we have removed the barriers,
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8:01 - 8:06and we have what is called
the spillover, or the passage of species. -
8:07 - 8:10Or even zoonosis,
as it is technically called, -
8:10 - 8:13that is, when the virus passes
from animal to man. -
8:13 - 8:19Now, passing from animal to man,
this virus is then transported -
8:19 - 8:21through humans and their devices
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8:21 - 8:25around the world: airplanes, ships, cars.
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8:26 - 8:30Today, we can carry a virus
half world away -
8:30 - 8:31in 12 hours:
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8:31 - 8:36in 12 hours, an infected person
can contaminate a continent. -
8:37 - 8:39Do you get how unprecedented that is?
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8:39 - 8:42After that, the virus enters our cities.
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8:43 - 8:49And it finds an ideal condition:
the gatherings it's yearning. -
8:49 - 8:56Yes, because cinema,
theaters like these, stadiums. -
8:57 - 9:01Or any other - supermarkets.
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9:03 - 9:04A gathering,
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9:04 - 9:08and the virus, at that point,
not even two meters away, -
9:08 - 9:12can move at a flash speed,
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9:13 - 9:17Not only that: it enters our cities;
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9:17 - 9:21and when we breathe,
we breathe in the midst of PM 10. -
9:22 - 9:24Because we generate them, we create them;
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9:24 - 9:27and so it finds a suitable vehicle,
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9:27 - 9:30as we saw before, to go further.
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9:32 - 9:33Indeed.
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9:33 - 9:37After that, the consequence
is the last picture you see here. -
9:37 - 9:40The consequence is
that we have an epidemic. -
9:41 - 9:44And as a consequence,
we go to the hospital, -
9:44 - 9:47and many of us can't get out
of the hospital anymore. -
9:49 - 9:51This is an absolutely natural phenomenon,
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9:51 - 9:55which however we tend to favor.
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9:55 - 9:58Now, what is a virus' spreading rate?
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9:58 - 10:01Well, a virus' spreading rate
is a bit subtle, -
10:01 - 10:03because it is not quite the same speed
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10:03 - 10:06we manage our society with,
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10:06 - 10:10or the timings in our life,
which tend to be linear. -
10:10 - 10:12No: the virus has another type of course,
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10:12 - 10:15which is a very natural one,
shared by all natural events. -
10:15 - 10:20You see? The first week
the virus can spread, -
10:20 - 10:24and can infect 400 people, 500 people.
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10:24 - 10:28The second week it went
from 500 people to 1600 people; -
10:29 - 10:32the third week it goes
from 1,600 to 3,500 people, -
10:32 - 10:35and we are starting to get slightly worry,
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10:35 - 10:37because in the first week we were saying:
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10:37 - 10:40oh well, it's a flu,
but it won't be that serious; -
10:40 - 10:42and then someone gets infected, but well -
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10:44 - 10:46Then maybe we don't do enough swabs.
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10:47 - 10:50The fourth week of infected become 10,000.
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10:53 - 10:54A day, maybe.
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10:55 - 10:58And the fifth week they become 100,000,
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10:59 - 11:01and is when they become 100,000
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11:01 - 11:03that the intensive care units are full,
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11:03 - 11:05people that are taken to the hospital.
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11:05 - 11:06We are afraid:
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11:06 - 11:10we are so afraid that we close everything.
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11:12 - 11:14We separate, they set social distancing,
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11:15 - 11:20and our R0 goes from four, five,
back to one, zero. -
11:22 - 11:23We wear face masks.
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11:23 - 11:28Our R0 of four, five becomes one again.
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11:28 - 11:30So, we do all those adaptation operations
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11:30 - 11:36that we need to safeguard
our life and that of others. -
11:37 - 11:38But the professor is a joker.
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11:39 - 11:41I say this to myself.
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11:41 - 11:42He is a joker
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11:42 - 11:44because what you see here is not a virus.
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11:46 - 11:48Huh, too easy to say it's a virus.
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11:48 - 11:50Sure it looks the same.
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11:50 - 11:51It started to Italy,
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11:51 - 11:54then later I start spreading
to other countries, -
11:54 - 11:55then - it's not the virus.
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11:55 - 11:59Because what you are actually seeing here
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11:59 - 12:02is the effect of climate change.
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12:03 - 12:05They are the extreme events.
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12:06 - 12:09And by extreme events
I mean storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, -
12:09 - 12:12water bombs, floods.
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12:12 - 12:17Look: between 1970 and 1980
there were about 462, -
12:17 - 12:19that means 46 per year.
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12:19 - 12:23Between 1980 and 1990
there were already 160 per year. -
12:24 - 12:31Between 1990 and 2000
they had already grown to over 300 - 350. -
12:32 - 12:36Between 2000 and 2010
there had become over 1,000, -
12:36 - 12:38extreme events.
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12:39 - 12:44In the last decade, there have been
over 10,000 a year. -
12:45 - 12:47And in fact, we are surprised, today,
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12:47 - 12:51that a city is flooded after any big rain,
there is some river that overflows -
12:51 - 12:56or so and we are surprised, right?
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12:57 - 13:02It is among those 10,000 a year.
This did not happen in the 70s. -
13:02 - 13:06These are precisely those effects
linked to climate change, -
13:06 - 13:12which tell us that extreme events
double every five years. -
13:12 - 13:17It means that in 2025
there will be 20,000 a year; -
13:17 - 13:20in 2030 there will be 40,000 per year.
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13:20 - 13:25And then we'll be so afraid of the effects
that climate change will bring about -
13:25 - 13:28that we will go into
"environmental lockdown". -
13:28 - 13:31But environmental lockdown
is slightly different -
13:31 - 13:33because environmental lockdown
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13:33 - 13:36isn't putting on a face mask,
it's not distancing. -
13:36 - 13:40No: it means reinforcing,
blocking everything; -
13:40 - 13:45and this is what happens,
as a light bulb turned on today. -
13:45 - 13:48We are here because a light bulb,
a warning, turned on. -
13:48 - 13:51which says: our tank is empty.
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13:52 - 13:55No more energy left.
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13:56 - 14:00Our spaceship's temperature
has risen to 15 degrees. -
14:02 - 14:07The pressure, the CO2 manometer,
has exceeded 400 parts per million. -
14:07 - 14:09Any process engineer,
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14:09 - 14:14faced with a high temperature
and high pressure plant, -
14:14 - 14:18without the ability to control it
from an energy point of view -
14:18 - 14:20has only two possibilities.
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14:21 - 14:26He can run away, as with Chernobyl:
they ran away, at some point. -
14:27 - 14:28Too dangerous.
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14:29 - 14:33Or, if he's brave,
he takes the emergency knob -
14:33 - 14:37and pulls it down, to secure the plant.
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14:37 - 14:40Now, this is what can be done.
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14:40 - 14:43Well: what we need to do is simple.
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14:43 - 14:46It's the call to action:
we talked about it a lot today. -
14:47 - 14:50If the consequence
of what we are experiencing -
14:50 - 14:53is due to the second
industrial revolution, -
14:53 - 14:55and it is due to fossil fuels,
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14:55 - 14:59the only other alternative
we have, no ifs and buts, -
14:59 - 15:03is that we must abandon fossil fuels.
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15:03 - 15:07That is, we must abandon
oil, gas and coal. -
15:07 - 15:08That's imperative.
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15:11 - 15:13The alternative to fossil fuels
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15:13 - 15:16is the one you see
in this image here: the Sun. -
15:16 - 15:19The Sun gives us
15,000 times the energy we need: -
15:19 - 15:20it is the largest tank we have,
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15:20 - 15:24we can refill the tank of our spaceship.
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15:25 - 15:28It will last four billion years:
it is very sustainable. -
15:28 - 15:31We have all the technologies to take it;
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15:31 - 15:34but it gets inconvenient,
for we have to change the devices. -
15:35 - 15:39Electric cars, electric houses -
we are still often unprepared. -
15:39 - 15:42This means we have two options.
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15:42 - 15:46Either we change, as viruses
would do to try to survive: -
15:46 - 15:49they mutate, without killing the host;
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15:49 - 15:52or we move to another planet.
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15:53 - 15:57But I think it's easier to change
than moving to another planet. -
15:58 - 16:00Thank you.
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16:00 - 16:03(Applause)
- Title:
- Pandemic runs on the pollution highways | Leonardo Setti | TEDxMantova
- Description:
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The spreading of COVID 19 is fueled by fine dust pollution. Leonardo Setti has successfully demonstrated this scientifically, and explains how this diffusion takes place. The most effective solution? Stop using energy derived from fossil sources.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community.
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