Learning from a barefoot movement
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0:00 - 0:04I'd like to take you to another world.
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0:04 - 0:06And I'd like to share
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0:06 - 0:10a 45 year-old love story
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0:10 - 0:13with the poor,
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0:13 - 0:16living on less than one dollar a day.
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0:18 - 0:22I went to a very elitist, snobbish,
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0:22 - 0:26expensive education in India,
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0:26 - 0:29and that almost destroyed me.
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0:31 - 0:33I was all set
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0:33 - 0:36to be a diplomat, teacher, doctor --
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0:36 - 0:40all laid out.
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0:40 - 0:43Then, I don't look it, but I was the Indian national squash champion
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0:43 - 0:45for three years.
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0:45 - 0:47(Laughter)
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0:47 - 0:50The whole world was laid out for me.
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0:50 - 0:52Everything was at my feet.
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0:52 - 0:55I could do nothing wrong.
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0:55 - 0:57And then I thought out of curiosity
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0:57 - 0:59I'd like to go and live and work
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0:59 - 1:01and just see what a village is like.
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1:01 - 1:03So in 1965,
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1:03 - 1:07I went to what was called the worst Bihar famine in India,
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1:07 - 1:10and I saw starvation, death,
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1:10 - 1:13people dying of hunger, for the first time.
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1:13 - 1:16It changed my life.
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1:16 - 1:18I came back home,
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1:18 - 1:20told my mother,
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1:20 - 1:23"I'd like to live and work in a village."
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1:23 - 1:25Mother went into a coma.
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1:25 - 1:28(Laughter)
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1:28 - 1:30"What is this?
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1:30 - 1:33The whole world is laid out for you, the best jobs are laid out for you,
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1:33 - 1:35and you want to go and work in a village?
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1:35 - 1:37I mean, is there something wrong with you?"
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1:37 - 1:39I said, "No, I've got the best eduction.
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1:39 - 1:41It made me think.
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1:41 - 1:44And I wanted to give something back
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1:44 - 1:46in my own way."
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1:46 - 1:48"What do you want to do in a village?
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1:48 - 1:50No job, no money,
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1:50 - 1:52no security, no prospect."
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1:52 - 1:54I said, "I want to live
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1:54 - 1:57and dig wells for five years."
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1:57 - 1:59"Dig wells for five years?
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1:59 - 2:02You went to the most expensive school and college in India,
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2:02 - 2:04and you want to dig wells for five years?"
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2:04 - 2:08She didn't speak to me for a very long time,
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2:08 - 2:11because she thought I'd let my family down.
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2:13 - 2:15But then,
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2:15 - 2:18I was exposed to the most extraordinary knowledge and skills
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2:18 - 2:20that very poor people have,
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2:20 - 2:23which are never brought into the mainstream --
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2:23 - 2:25which is never identified, respected,
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2:25 - 2:27applied on a large scale.
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2:27 - 2:29And I thought I'd start a Barefoot College --
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2:29 - 2:31college only for the poor.
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2:31 - 2:33What the poor thought was important
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2:33 - 2:36would be reflected in the college.
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2:37 - 2:39I went to this village for the first time.
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2:39 - 2:41Elders came to me
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2:41 - 2:43and said, "Are you running from the police?"
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2:43 - 2:45I said, "No."
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2:45 - 2:48(Laughter)
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2:49 - 2:51"You failed in your exam?"
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2:51 - 2:53I said, "No."
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2:53 - 2:56"You didn't get a government job?" I said, "No."
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2:56 - 2:58"What are you doing here?
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2:58 - 3:00Why are you here?
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3:00 - 3:02The education system in India
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3:02 - 3:05makes you look at Paris and New Delhi and Zurich;
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3:05 - 3:07what are you doing in this village?
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3:07 - 3:10Is there something wrong with you you're not telling us?"
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3:10 - 3:13I said, "No, I want to actually start a college
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3:13 - 3:15only for the poor.
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3:15 - 3:18What the poor thought was important would be reflected in the college."
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3:18 - 3:22So the elders gave me some very sound and profound advice.
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3:22 - 3:24They said, "Please,
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3:24 - 3:27don't bring anyone with a degree and qualification
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3:27 - 3:29into your college."
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3:29 - 3:32So it's the only college in India
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3:32 - 3:35where, if you should have a Ph.D. or a Master's,
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3:35 - 3:37you are disqualified to come.
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3:37 - 3:42You have to be a cop-out or a wash-out or a dropout
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3:42 - 3:45to come to our college.
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3:45 - 3:47You have to work with your hands.
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3:47 - 3:49You have to have a dignity of labor.
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3:49 - 3:52You have to show that you have a skill that you can offer to the community
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3:52 - 3:55and provide a service to the community.
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3:55 - 3:58So we started the Barefoot College,
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3:58 - 4:00and we redefined professionalism.
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4:00 - 4:02Who is a professional?
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4:02 - 4:04A professional is someone
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4:04 - 4:06who has a combination of competence,
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4:06 - 4:09confidence and belief.
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4:09 - 4:12A water diviner is a professional.
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4:12 - 4:14A traditional midwife
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4:14 - 4:16is a professional.
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4:16 - 4:19A traditional bone setter is a professional.
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4:19 - 4:21These are professionals all over the world.
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4:21 - 4:25You find them in any inaccessible village around the world.
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4:25 - 4:28And we thought that these people should come into the mainstream
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4:28 - 4:31and show that the knowledge and skills that they have
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4:31 - 4:33is universal.
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4:33 - 4:35It needs to be used, needs to be applied,
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4:35 - 4:37needs to be shown to the world outside --
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4:37 - 4:39that these knowledge and skills
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4:39 - 4:43are relevant even today.
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4:43 - 4:45So the college works
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4:45 - 4:49following the lifestyle and workstyle of Mahatma Gandhi.
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4:49 - 4:53You eat on the floor, you sleep on the floor, you work on the floor.
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4:53 - 4:55There are no contracts, no written contracts.
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4:55 - 4:58You can stay with me for 20 years, go tomorrow.
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4:58 - 5:01And no one can get more than $100 a month.
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5:01 - 5:04You come for the money, you don't come to Barefoot College.
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5:04 - 5:06You come for the work and the challenge,
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5:06 - 5:08you'll come to the Barefoot College.
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5:08 - 5:11That is where we want you to try crazy ideas.
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5:11 - 5:13Whatever idea you have, come and try it.
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5:13 - 5:15It doesn't matter if you fail.
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5:15 - 5:18Battered, bruised, you start again.
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5:18 - 5:21It's the only college where the teacher is the learner
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5:21 - 5:24and the learner is the teacher.
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5:24 - 5:27And it's the only college where we don't give a certificate.
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5:27 - 5:30You are certified by the community you serve.
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5:30 - 5:32You don't need a paper to hang on the wall
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5:32 - 5:35to show that you are an engineer.
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5:37 - 5:39So when I said that,
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5:39 - 5:42they said, "Well show us what is possible. What are you doing?
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5:42 - 5:46This is all mumbo-jumbo if you can't show it on the ground."
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5:46 - 5:49So we built the first Barefoot College
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5:49 - 5:52in 1986.
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5:52 - 5:54It was built by 12 Barefoot architects
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5:54 - 5:56who can't read and write,
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5:56 - 5:59built on $1.50 a sq. ft.
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5:59 - 6:03150 people lived there, worked there.
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6:03 - 6:06They got the Aga Khan Award for Architecture in 2002.
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6:06 - 6:09But then they suspected, they thought there was an architect behind it.
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6:09 - 6:11I said, "Yes, they made the blueprints,
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6:11 - 6:15but the Barefoot architects actually constructed the college."
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6:16 - 6:19We are the only ones who actually returned the award for $50,000,
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6:19 - 6:21because they didn't believe us,
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6:21 - 6:25and we thought that they were actually casting aspersions
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6:25 - 6:28on the Barefoot architects of Tilonia.
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6:28 - 6:30I asked a forester --
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6:30 - 6:33high-powered, paper-qualified expert --
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6:33 - 6:36I said, "What can you build in this place?"
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6:36 - 6:38He had one look at the soil and said, "Forget it. No way.
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6:38 - 6:40Not even worth it.
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6:40 - 6:42No water, rocky soil."
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6:42 - 6:44I was in a bit of a spot.
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6:44 - 6:46And I said, "Okay, I'll go to the old man in village
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6:46 - 6:49and say, 'What should I grow in this spot?'"
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6:49 - 6:51He looked quietly at me and said,
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6:51 - 6:53"You build this, you build this, you put this, and it'll work."
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6:53 - 6:56This is what it looks like today.
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6:57 - 6:59Went to the roof,
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6:59 - 7:01and all the women said, "Clear out.
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7:01 - 7:04The men should clear out because we don't want to share this technology with the men.
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7:04 - 7:06This is waterproofing the roof."
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7:06 - 7:08(Laughter)
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7:08 - 7:11It is a bit of jaggery, a bit of urens
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7:11 - 7:13and a bit of other things I don't know.
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7:13 - 7:15But it actually doesn't leak.
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7:15 - 7:18Since 1986, it hasn't leaked.
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7:18 - 7:21This technology, the women will not share with the men.
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7:21 - 7:24(Laughter)
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7:24 - 7:26It's the only college
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7:26 - 7:30which is fully solar-electrified.
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7:30 - 7:32All the power comes from the sun.
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7:32 - 7:3445 kilowatts of panels on the roof.
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7:34 - 7:36And everything works off the sun for the next 25 years.
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7:36 - 7:38So long as the sun shines,
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7:38 - 7:40we'll have no problem with power.
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7:40 - 7:42But the beauty is
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7:42 - 7:45that is was installed
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7:45 - 7:48by a priest, a Hindu priest,
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7:48 - 7:51who's only done eight years of primary schooling --
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7:51 - 7:54never been to school, never been to college.
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7:54 - 7:56He knows more about solar
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7:56 - 8:00than anyone I know anywhere in the world guaranteed.
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8:02 - 8:04Food, if you come to the Barefoot College,
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8:04 - 8:07is solar cooked.
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8:07 - 8:10But the people who fabricated that solar cooker
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8:10 - 8:13are women,
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8:13 - 8:15illiterate women,
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8:15 - 8:17who actually fabricate
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8:17 - 8:19the most sophisticated solar cooker.
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8:19 - 8:22It's a parabolic Scheffler solar cooker.
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8:25 - 8:29Unfortunately, they're almost half German,
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8:29 - 8:31they're so precise.
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8:31 - 8:33(Laughter)
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8:33 - 8:36You'll never find Indian women so precise.
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8:37 - 8:39Absolutely to the last inch,
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8:39 - 8:41they can make that cooker.
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8:41 - 8:43And we have 60 meals twice a day
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8:43 - 8:45of solar cooking.
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8:45 - 8:47We have a dentist --
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8:47 - 8:50she's a grandmother, illiterate, who's a dentist.
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8:50 - 8:52She actually looks after the teeth
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8:52 - 8:55of 7,000 children.
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8:56 - 8:58Barefoot technology:
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8:58 - 9:01this was 1986 -- no engineer, no architect thought of it --
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9:01 - 9:04but we are collecting rainwater from the roofs.
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9:04 - 9:06Very little water is wasted.
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9:06 - 9:08All the roofs are connected underground
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9:08 - 9:10to a 400,000 liter tank,
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9:10 - 9:12and no water is wasted.
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9:12 - 9:15If we have four years of drought, we still have water on the campus,
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9:15 - 9:17because we collect rainwater.
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9:17 - 9:2060 percent of children don't go to school,
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9:20 - 9:22because they have to look after animals --
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9:22 - 9:24sheep, goats --
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9:24 - 9:26domestic chores.
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9:26 - 9:29So we thought of starting a school
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9:29 - 9:31at night for the children.
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9:31 - 9:33Because the night schools of Tilonia,
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9:33 - 9:36over 75,000 children have gone through these night schools.
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9:36 - 9:38Because it's for the convenience of the child;
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9:38 - 9:40it's not for the convenience of the teacher.
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9:40 - 9:42And what do we teach in these schools?
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9:42 - 9:44Democracy, citizenship,
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9:44 - 9:47how you should measure your land,
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9:47 - 9:49what you should do if you're arrested,
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9:49 - 9:53what you should do if your animal is sick.
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9:53 - 9:55This is what we teach in the night schools.
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9:55 - 9:58But all the schools are solar-lit.
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9:58 - 10:00Every five years
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10:00 - 10:02we have an election.
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10:02 - 10:06Between six to 14 year-old children
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10:06 - 10:09participate in a democratic process,
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10:09 - 10:13and they elect a prime minister.
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10:13 - 10:16The prime minister is 12 years old.
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10:17 - 10:19She looks after 20 goats in the morning,
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10:19 - 10:22but she's prime minister in the evening.
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10:22 - 10:24She has a cabinet,
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10:24 - 10:27a minister of education, a minister for energy, a minister for health.
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10:27 - 10:29And they actually monitor and supervise
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10:29 - 10:32150 schools for 7,000 children.
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10:34 - 10:36She got the World's Children's Prize five years ago,
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10:36 - 10:38and she went to Sweden.
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10:38 - 10:40First time ever going out of her village.
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10:40 - 10:43Never seen Sweden.
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10:43 - 10:45Wasn't dazzled at all by what was happening.
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10:45 - 10:47And the Queen of Sweden, who's there,
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10:47 - 10:50turned to me and said, "Can you ask this child where she got her confidence from?
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10:50 - 10:52She's only 12 years old,
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10:52 - 10:55and she's not dazzled by anything."
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10:55 - 10:58And the girl, who's on her left,
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10:58 - 11:01turned to me and looked at the queen straight in the eye
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11:01 - 11:04and said, "Please tell her I'm the prime minister."
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11:04 - 11:06(Laughter)
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11:06 - 11:14(Applause)
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11:14 - 11:18Where the percentage of illiteracy is very high,
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11:18 - 11:21we use puppetry.
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11:21 - 11:24Puppets is the way we communicate.
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11:30 - 11:33You have Jokhim Chacha
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11:33 - 11:37who is 300 years old.
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11:37 - 11:40He is my psychoanalyst. He is my teacher.
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11:40 - 11:42He's my doctor. He's my lawyer.
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11:42 - 11:44He's my donor.
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11:44 - 11:46He actually raises money,
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11:46 - 11:49solves my disputes.
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11:49 - 11:52He solves my problems in the village.
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11:52 - 11:54If there's tension in the village,
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11:54 - 11:56if attendance at the schools goes down
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11:56 - 11:58and there's a friction between the teacher and the parent,
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11:58 - 12:01the puppet calls the teacher and the parent in front of the whole village
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12:01 - 12:03and says, "Shake hands.
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12:03 - 12:05The attendance must not drop."
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12:07 - 12:09These puppets
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12:09 - 12:11are made out of recycled World Bank reports.
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12:11 - 12:13(Laughter)
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12:13 - 12:20(Applause)
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12:20 - 12:24So this decentralized, demystified approach
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12:24 - 12:26of solar-electrifying villages,
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12:26 - 12:28we've covered all over India
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12:28 - 12:31from Ladakh up to Bhutan --
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12:33 - 12:35all solar-electrified villages
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12:35 - 12:38by people who have been trained.
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12:39 - 12:41And we went to Ladakh,
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12:41 - 12:43and we asked this woman --
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12:43 - 12:46this, at minus 40, you have to come out of the roof,
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12:46 - 12:49because there's no place, it was all snowed up on both sides --
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12:49 - 12:51and we asked this woman,
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12:51 - 12:53"What was the benefit you had
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12:53 - 12:55from solar electricity?"
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12:55 - 12:57And she thought for a minute and said,
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12:57 - 13:01"It's the first time I can see my husband's face in winter."
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13:01 - 13:04(Laughter)
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13:04 - 13:06Went to Afghanistan.
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13:06 - 13:11One lesson we learned in India
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13:11 - 13:15was men are untrainable.
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13:15 - 13:19(Laughter)
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13:19 - 13:21Men are restless,
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13:21 - 13:23men are ambitious,
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13:23 - 13:26men are compulsively mobile,
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13:26 - 13:28and they all want a certificate.
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13:28 - 13:30(Laughter)
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13:30 - 13:33All across the globe, you have this tendency
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13:33 - 13:35of men wanting a certificate.
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13:35 - 13:38Why? Because they want to leave the village
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13:38 - 13:41and go to a city, looking for a job.
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13:41 - 13:44So we came up with a great solution:
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13:44 - 13:46train grandmothers.
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13:48 - 13:50What's the best way of communicating
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13:50 - 13:52in the world today?
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13:52 - 13:54Television? No.
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13:54 - 13:56Telegraph? No.
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13:56 - 13:58Telephone? No.
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13:58 - 14:00Tell a woman.
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14:00 - 14:03(Laughter)
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14:03 - 14:07(Applause)
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14:07 - 14:09So we went to Afghanistan for the first time,
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14:09 - 14:11and we picked three women
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14:11 - 14:13and said, "We want to take them to India."
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14:13 - 14:15They said, "Impossible. They don't even go out of their rooms,
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14:15 - 14:17and you want to take them to India."
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14:17 - 14:19I said, "I'll make a concession. I'll take the husbands along as well."
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14:19 - 14:21So I took the husbands along.
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14:21 - 14:24Of course, the women were much more intelligent than the men.
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14:24 - 14:26In six months,
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14:26 - 14:29how do we train these women?
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14:29 - 14:31Sign language.
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14:31 - 14:34You don't choose the written word.
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14:34 - 14:36You don't choose the spoken word.
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14:36 - 14:39You use sign language.
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14:39 - 14:41And in six months
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14:41 - 14:45they can become solar engineers.
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14:45 - 14:48They go back and solar-electrify their own village.
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14:48 - 14:50This woman went back
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14:50 - 14:53and solar-electrified the first village,
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14:53 - 14:55set up a workshop --
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14:55 - 14:58the first village ever to be solar-electrified in Afghanistan
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14:58 - 15:01[was] by the three women.
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15:01 - 15:03This woman
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15:03 - 15:05is an extraordinary grandmother.
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15:05 - 15:1055 years old, and she's solar-electrified 200 houses for me in Afghanistan.
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15:10 - 15:13And they haven't collapsed.
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15:13 - 15:16She actually went and spoke to an engineering department in Afghanistan
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15:16 - 15:18and told the head of the department
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15:18 - 15:20the difference between AC and DC.
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15:20 - 15:22He didn't know.
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15:22 - 15:25Those three women have trained 27 more women
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15:25 - 15:28and solar-electrified 100 villages in Afghanistan.
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15:28 - 15:31We went to Africa,
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15:31 - 15:33and we did the same thing.
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15:33 - 15:36All these women sitting at one table from eight, nine countries,
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15:36 - 15:39all chatting to each other, not understanding a word,
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15:39 - 15:41because they're all speaking a different language.
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15:41 - 15:43But their body language is great.
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15:43 - 15:45They're speaking to each other
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15:45 - 15:47and actually becoming solar engineers.
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15:47 - 15:50I went to Sierra Leone,
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15:50 - 15:53and there was this minister driving down in the dead of night --
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15:53 - 15:55comes across this village.
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15:55 - 15:58Comes back, goes into the village, says, "Well what's the story?"
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15:58 - 16:00They said, "These two grandmothers ... "
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16:00 - 16:03"Grandmothers?" The minister couldn't believe what was happening.
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16:03 - 16:06"Where did they go?" "Went to India and back."
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16:06 - 16:08Went straight to the president.
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16:08 - 16:10He said, "Do you know there's a solar-electrified village in Sierra Leone?"
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16:10 - 16:13He said, "No." Half the cabinet went to see the grandmothers the next day.
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16:13 - 16:15"What's the story."
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16:15 - 16:19So he summoned me and said, "Can you train me 150 grandmothers?"
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16:19 - 16:21I said, "I can't, Mr. President.
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16:21 - 16:23But they will. The grandmothers will."
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16:23 - 16:26So he built me the first Barefoot training center in Sierra Leone.
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16:26 - 16:30And 150 grandmothers have been trained in Sierra Leone.
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16:30 - 16:32Gambia:
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16:32 - 16:35we went to select a grandmother in Gambia.
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16:35 - 16:37Went to this village.
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16:37 - 16:39I knew which woman I would like to take.
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16:39 - 16:42The community got together and said, "Take these two women."
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16:42 - 16:44I said, "No, I want to take this woman."
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16:44 - 16:46They said, "Why? She doesn't know the language. You don't know her."
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16:46 - 16:49I said, "I like the body language. I like the way she speaks."
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16:49 - 16:51"Difficult husband; not possible."
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16:51 - 16:53Called the husband, the husband came,
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16:53 - 16:56swaggering, politician, mobile in his hand. "Not possible."
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16:56 - 16:59"Why not?" "The woman, look how beautiful she is."
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16:59 - 17:01I said, "Yeah, she is very beautiful."
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17:01 - 17:03"What happens if she runs off with an Indian man?"
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17:03 - 17:05That was his biggest fear.
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17:05 - 17:08I said, "She'll be happy. She'll ring you up on the mobile."
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17:08 - 17:11She went like a grandmother
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17:11 - 17:13and came back like a tiger.
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17:13 - 17:15She walked out of the plane
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17:15 - 17:18and spoke to the whole press as if she was a veteran.
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17:18 - 17:21She handled the national press,
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17:21 - 17:23and she was a star.
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17:23 - 17:26And when I went back six months later, I said, "Where's your husband?"
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17:26 - 17:28"Oh, somewhere. It doesn't matter."
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17:28 - 17:30(Laughter)
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17:30 - 17:32Success story.
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17:32 - 17:34(Laughter)
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17:34 - 17:37(Applause)
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17:37 - 17:43I'll just wind up by saying
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17:43 - 17:47that I think you don't have to look for solutions outside.
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17:47 - 17:49Look for solutions within.
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17:49 - 17:52And listen to people. They have the solutions in front of you.
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17:52 - 17:54They're all over the world.
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17:54 - 17:56Don't even worry.
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17:56 - 17:59Don't listen to the World Bank, listen to the people on the ground.
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17:59 - 18:02They have all the solutions in the world.
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18:02 - 18:05I'll end with a quotation by Mahatma Gandhi.
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18:05 - 18:07"First they ignore you,
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18:07 - 18:09then they laugh at you,
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18:09 - 18:11then they fight you,
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18:11 - 18:13and then you win."
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18:13 - 18:15Thank you.
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18:15 - 18:46(Applause)
- Title:
- Learning from a barefoot movement
- Speaker:
- Bunker Roy
- Description:
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In Rajasthan, India, an extraordinary school teaches rural women and men -- many of them illiterate -- to become solar engineers, artisans, dentists and doctors in their own villages. It's called the Barefoot College, and its founder, Bunker Roy, explains how it works.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 18:47
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