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Learning from a barefoot movement

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    I'd like to take you to another world.
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    And I'd like to share
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    a 45 year-old love story
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    with the poor,
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    living on less than one dollar a day.
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    I went to a very elitist, snobbish,
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    expensive education in India,
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    and that almost destroyed me.
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    I was all set
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    to be a diplomat, teacher, doctor --
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    all laid out.
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    Then, I don't look it, but I was the Indian national squash champion
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    for three years.
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    (Laughter)
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    The whole world was laid out for me.
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    Everything was at my feet.
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    I could do nothing wrong.
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    And then I thought out of curiosity
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    I'd like to go and live and work
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    and just see what a village is like.
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    So in 1965,
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    I went to what was called the worst Bihar famine in India,
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    and I saw starvation, death,
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    people dying of hunger, for the first time.
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    It changed my life.
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    I came back home,
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    told my mother,
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    "I'd like to live and work in a village."
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    Mother went into a coma.
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    (Laughter)
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    "What is this?
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    The whole world is laid out for you, the best jobs are laid out for you,
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    and you want to go and work in a village?
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    I mean, is there something wrong with you?"
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    I said, "No, I've got the best eduction.
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    It made me think.
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    And I wanted to give something back
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    in my own way."
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    "What do you want to do in a village?
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    No job, no money,
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    no security, no prospect."
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    I said, "I want to live
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    and dig wells for five years."
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    "Dig wells for five years?
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    You went to the most expensive school and college in India,
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    and you want to dig wells for five years?"
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    She didn't speak to me for a very long time,
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    because she thought I'd let my family down.
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    But then,
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    I was exposed to the most extraordinary knowledge and skills
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    that very poor people have,
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    which are never brought into the mainstream --
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    which is never identified, respected,
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    applied on a large scale.
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    And I thought I'd start a Barefoot College --
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    college only for the poor.
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    What the poor thought was important
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    would be reflected in the college.
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    I went to this village for the first time.
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    Elders came to me
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    and said, "Are you running from the police?"
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    I said, "No."
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    (Laughter)
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    "You failed in your exam?"
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    I said, "No."
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    "You didn't get a government job?" I said, "No."
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    "What are you doing here?
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    Why are you here?
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    The education system in India
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    makes you look at Paris and New Delhi and Zurich;
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    what are you doing in this village?
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    Is there something wrong with you you're not telling us?"
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    I said, "No, I want to actually start a college
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    only for the poor.
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    What the poor thought was important would be reflected in the college."
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    So the elders gave me some very sound and profound advice.
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    They said, "Please,
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    don't bring anyone with a degree and qualification
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    into your college."
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    So it's the only college in India
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    where, if you should have a Ph.D. or a Master's,
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    you are disqualified to come.
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    You have to be a cop-out or a wash-out or a dropout
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    to come to our college.
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    You have to work with your hands.
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    You have to have a dignity of labor.
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    You have to show that you have a skill that you can offer to the community
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    and provide a service to the community.
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    So we started the Barefoot College,
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    and we redefined professionalism.
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    Who is a professional?
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    A professional is someone
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    who has a combination of competence,
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    confidence and belief.
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    A water diviner is a professional.
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    A traditional midwife
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    is a professional.
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    A traditional bone setter is a professional.
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    These are professionals all over the world.
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    You find them in any inaccessible village around the world.
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    And we thought that these people should come into the mainstream
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    and show that the knowledge and skills that they have
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    is universal.
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    It needs to be used, needs to be applied,
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    needs to be shown to the world outside --
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    that these knowledge and skills
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    are relevant even today.
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    So the college works
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    following the lifestyle and workstyle of Mahatma Gandhi.
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    You eat on the floor, you sleep on the floor, you work on the floor.
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    There are no contracts, no written contracts.
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    You can stay with me for 20 years, go tomorrow.
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    And no one can get more than $100 a month.
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    You come for the money, you don't come to Barefoot College.
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    You come for the work and the challenge,
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    you'll come to the Barefoot College.
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    That is where we want you to try crazy ideas.
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    Whatever idea you have, come and try it.
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    It doesn't matter if you fail.
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    Battered, bruised, you start again.
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    It's the only college where the teacher is the learner
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    and the learner is the teacher.
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    And it's the only college where we don't give a certificate.
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    You are certified by the community you serve.
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    You don't need a paper to hang on the wall
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    to show that you are an engineer.
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    So when I said that,
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    they said, "Well show us what is possible. What are you doing?
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    This is all mumbo-jumbo if you can't show it on the ground."
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    So we built the first Barefoot College
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    in 1986.
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    It was built by 12 Barefoot architects
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    who can't read and write,
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    built on $1.50 a sq. ft.
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    150 people lived there, worked there.
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    They got the Aga Khan Award for Architecture in 2002.
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    But then they suspected, they thought there was an architect behind it.
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    I said, "Yes, they made the blueprints,
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    but the Barefoot architects actually constructed the college."
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    We are the only ones who actually returned the award for $50,000,
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    because they didn't believe us,
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    and we thought that they were actually casting aspersions
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    on the Barefoot architects of Tilonia.
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    I asked a forester --
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    high-powered, paper-qualified expert --
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    I said, "What can you build in this place?"
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    He had one look at the soil and said, "Forget it. No way.
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    Not even worth it.
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    No water, rocky soil."
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    I was in a bit of a spot.
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    And I said, "Okay, I'll go to the old man in village
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    and say, 'What should I grow in this spot?'"
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    He looked quietly at me and said,
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    "You build this, you build this, you put this, and it'll work."
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    This is what it looks like today.
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    Went to the roof,
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    and all the women said, "Clear out.
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    The men should clear out because we don't want to share this technology with the men.
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    This is waterproofing the roof."
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    (Laughter)
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    It is a bit of jaggery, a bit of urens
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    and a bit of other things I don't know.
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    But it actually doesn't leak.
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    Since 1986, it hasn't leaked.
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    This technology, the women will not share with the men.
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    (Laughter)
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    It's the only college
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    which is fully solar-electrified.
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    All the power comes from the sun.
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    45 kilowatts of panels on the roof.
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    And everything works off the sun for the next 25 years.
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    So long as the sun shines,
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    we'll have no problem with power.
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    But the beauty is
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    that is was installed
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    by a priest, a Hindu priest,
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    who's only done eight years of primary schooling --
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    never been to school, never been to college.
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    He knows more about solar
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    than anyone I know anywhere in the world guaranteed.
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    Food, if you come to the Barefoot College,
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    is solar cooked.
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    But the people who fabricated that solar cooker
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    are women,
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    illiterate women,
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    who actually fabricate
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    the most sophisticated solar cooker.
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    It's a parabolic Scheffler solar cooker.
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    Unfortunately, they're almost half German,
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    they're so precise.
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    (Laughter)
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    You'll never find Indian women so precise.
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    Absolutely to the last inch,
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    they can make that cooker.
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    And we have 60 meals twice a day
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    of solar cooking.
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    We have a dentist --
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    she's a grandmother, illiterate, who's a dentist.
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    She actually looks after the teeth
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    of 7,000 children.
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    Barefoot technology:
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    this was 1986 -- no engineer, no architect thought of it --
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    but we are collecting rainwater from the roofs.
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    Very little water is wasted.
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    All the roofs are connected underground
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    to a 400,000 liter tank,
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    and no water is wasted.
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    If we have four years of drought, we still have water on the campus,
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    because we collect rainwater.
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    60 percent of children don't go to school,
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    because they have to look after animals --
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    sheep, goats --
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    domestic chores.
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    So we thought of starting a school
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    at night for the children.
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    Because the night schools of Tilonia,
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    over 75,000 children have gone through these night schools.
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    Because it's for the convenience of the child;
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    it's not for the convenience of the teacher.
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    And what do we teach in these schools?
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    Democracy, citizenship,
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    how you should measure your land,
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    what you should do if you're arrested,
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    what you should do if your animal is sick.
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    This is what we teach in the night schools.
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    But all the schools are solar-lit.
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    Every five years
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    we have an election.
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    Between six to 14 year-old children
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    participate in a democratic process,
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    and they elect a prime minister.
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    The prime minister is 12 years old.
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    She looks after 20 goats in the morning,
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    but she's prime minister in the evening.
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    She has a cabinet,
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    a minister of education, a minister for energy, a minister for health.
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    And they actually monitor and supervise
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    150 schools for 7,000 children.
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    She got the World's Children's Prize five years ago,
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    and she went to Sweden.
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    First time ever going out of her village.
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    Never seen Sweden.
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    Wasn't dazzled at all by what was happening.
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    And the Queen of Sweden, who's there,
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    turned to me and said, "Can you ask this child where she got her confidence from?
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    She's only 12 years old,
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    and she's not dazzled by anything."
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    And the girl, who's on her left,
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    turned to me and looked at the queen straight in the eye
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    and said, "Please tell her I'm the prime minister."
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    Where the percentage of illiteracy is very high,
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    we use puppetry.
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    Puppets is the way we communicate.
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    You have Jokhim Chacha
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    who is 300 years old.
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    He is my psychoanalyst. He is my teacher.
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    He's my doctor. He's my lawyer.
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    He's my donor.
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    He actually raises money,
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    solves my disputes.
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    He solves my problems in the village.
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    If there's tension in the village,
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    if attendance at the schools goes down
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    and there's a friction between the teacher and the parent,
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    the puppet calls the teacher and the parent in front of the whole village
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    and says, "Shake hands.
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    The attendance must not drop."
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    These puppets
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    are made out of recycled World Bank reports.
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    So this decentralized, demystified approach
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    of solar-electrifying villages,
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    we've covered all over India
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    from Ladakh up to Bhutan --
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    all solar-electrified villages
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    by people who have been trained.
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    And we went to Ladakh,
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    and we asked this woman --
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    this, at minus 40, you have to come out of the roof,
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    because there's no place, it was all snowed up on both sides --
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    and we asked this woman,
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    "What was the benefit you had
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    from solar electricity?"
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    And she thought for a minute and said,
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    "It's the first time I can see my husband's face in winter."
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    (Laughter)
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    Went to Afghanistan.
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    One lesson we learned in India
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    was men are untrainable.
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    (Laughter)
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    Men are restless,
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    men are ambitious,
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    men are compulsively mobile,
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    and they all want a certificate.
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    (Laughter)
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    All across the globe, you have this tendency
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    of men wanting a certificate.
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    Why? Because they want to leave the village
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    and go to a city, looking for a job.
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    So we came up with a great solution:
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    train grandmothers.
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    What's the best way of communicating
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    in the world today?
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    Television? No.
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    Telegraph? No.
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    Telephone? No.
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    Tell a woman.
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    So we went to Afghanistan for the first time,
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    and we picked three women
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    and said, "We want to take them to India."
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    They said, "Impossible. They don't even go out of their rooms,
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    and you want to take them to India."
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    I said, "I'll make a concession. I'll take the husbands along as well."
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    So I took the husbands along.
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    Of course, the women were much more intelligent than the men.
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    In six months,
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    how do we train these women?
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    Sign language.
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    You don't choose the written word.
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    You don't choose the spoken word.
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    You use sign language.
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    And in six months
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    they can become solar engineers.
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    They go back and solar-electrify their own village.
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    This woman went back
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    and solar-electrified the first village,
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    set up a workshop --
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    the first village ever to be solar-electrified in Afghanistan
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    [was] by the three women.
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    This woman
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    is an extraordinary grandmother.
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    55 years old, and she's solar-electrified 200 houses for me in Afghanistan.
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    And they haven't collapsed.
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    She actually went and spoke to an engineering department in Afghanistan
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    and told the head of the department
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    the difference between AC and DC.
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    He didn't know.
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    Those three women have trained 27 more women
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    and solar-electrified 100 villages in Afghanistan.
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    We went to Africa,
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    and we did the same thing.
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    All these women sitting at one table from eight, nine countries,
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    all chatting to each other, not understanding a word,
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    because they're all speaking a different language.
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    But their body language is great.
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    They're speaking to each other
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    and actually becoming solar engineers.
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    I went to Sierra Leone,
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    and there was this minister driving down in the dead of night --
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    comes across this village.
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    Comes back, goes into the village, says, "Well what's the story?"
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    They said, "These two grandmothers ... "
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    "Grandmothers?" The minister couldn't believe what was happening.
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    "Where did they go?" "Went to India and back."
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    Went straight to the president.
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    He said, "Do you know there's a solar-electrified village in Sierra Leone?"
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    He said, "No." Half the cabinet went to see the grandmothers the next day.
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    "What's the story."
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    So he summoned me and said, "Can you train me 150 grandmothers?"
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    I said, "I can't, Mr. President.
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    But they will. The grandmothers will."
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    So he built me the first Barefoot training center in Sierra Leone.
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    And 150 grandmothers have been trained in Sierra Leone.
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    Gambia:
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    we went to select a grandmother in Gambia.
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    Went to this village.
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    I knew which woman I would like to take.
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    The community got together and said, "Take these two women."
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    I said, "No, I want to take this woman."
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    They said, "Why? She doesn't know the language. You don't know her."
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    I said, "I like the body language. I like the way she speaks."
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    "Difficult husband; not possible."
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    Called the husband, the husband came,
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    swaggering, politician, mobile in his hand. "Not possible."
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    "Why not?" "The woman, look how beautiful she is."
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    I said, "Yeah, she is very beautiful."
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    "What happens if she runs off with an Indian man?"
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    That was his biggest fear.
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    I said, "She'll be happy. She'll ring you up on the mobile."
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    She went like a grandmother
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    and came back like a tiger.
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    She walked out of the plane
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    and spoke to the whole press as if she was a veteran.
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    She handled the national press,
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    and she was a star.
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    And when I went back six months later, I said, "Where's your husband?"
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    "Oh, somewhere. It doesn't matter."
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    (Laughter)
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    Success story.
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    (Laughter)
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    (Applause)
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    I'll just wind up by saying
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    that I think you don't have to look for solutions outside.
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    Look for solutions within.
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    And listen to people. They have the solutions in front of you.
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    They're all over the world.
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    Don't even worry.
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    Don't listen to the World Bank, listen to the people on the ground.
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    They have all the solutions in the world.
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    I'll end with a quotation by Mahatma Gandhi.
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    "First they ignore you,
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    then they laugh at you,
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    then they fight you,
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    and then you win."
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Learning from a barefoot movement
Speaker:
Bunker Roy
Description:

In Rajasthan, India, an extraordinary school teaches rural women and men -- many of them illiterate -- to become solar engineers, artisans, dentists and doctors in their own villages. It's called the Barefoot College, and its founder, Bunker Roy, explains how it works.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
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Duration:
18:47
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