Life at the frontier: the conversational nature of reality | David Whyte | TEDxPugetSound
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0:04 - 0:06Alison Whitmire:
I first heard about David Whyte -
0:06 - 0:12six years ago when I started working
with a CEO organization called Vistage. -
0:12 - 0:18David Whyte's poetry is quite literally
part of the training curriculum -
0:18 - 0:20for Vistage Group chairs.
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0:22 - 0:27His work, his poetry, is so evocative
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0:27 - 0:29that it is what we use
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0:29 - 0:34to help connect leaders
with a hidden part of themselves, -
0:34 - 0:36with an unclaimed part of themselves.
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0:36 - 0:43And so David is here today
quite literally to open us up. -
0:44 - 0:46So without further ado, David Whyte
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0:46 - 0:52and his talk, "Life at the frontier
and the conversational nature of reality." -
0:53 - 0:55(Applause)
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1:00 - 1:04Your great mistake is to act the drama
as if you were alone. -
1:04 - 1:08Your great mistake is to act the drama
as if you were alone. -
1:08 - 1:11As if life were a progressive
and cunning crime -
1:11 - 1:14with no witness to the tiny
hidden transgressions, -
1:14 - 1:17as if life were a progressive
and cunning crime -
1:17 - 1:21with no witness to the tiny
hidden transgressions. -
1:21 - 1:27To feel abandoned is to deny
the intimacy of your surroundings. -
1:27 - 1:31Surely, even you, at times,
have felt the grand array; -
1:31 - 1:33the swelling presence, and the chorus,
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1:33 - 1:36crowding our your solo voice.
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1:37 - 1:41You must note the way
the soap dish enables you, -
1:41 - 1:44or the window latch grants you courage.
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1:44 - 1:48Alertness is the hidden
discipline of familiarity. -
1:48 - 1:53Alertness is the hidden
discipline of familiarity. -
1:53 - 1:57The stairs are your mentor
of things to come, -
1:57 - 2:01the doors have always been there
to frighten you and invite you, -
2:01 - 2:06and the tiny speaker in the phone
is your dream-ladder to divinity. -
2:07 - 2:10Put down the weight of your aloneness
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2:10 - 2:12and ease into the conversation.
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2:12 - 2:14Put down the weight of your aloneness
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2:14 - 2:16and ease into the conversation.
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2:16 - 2:19The kettle is singing
even as it pours you a drink, -
2:19 - 2:22the cooking pots have left
their arrogant aloofness -
2:22 - 2:25and seen the good in you at last.
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2:25 - 2:31All the birds and creatures of the world
are unutterably themselves. -
2:31 - 2:35Everything, everything,
everything is waiting for you. -
2:36 - 2:40Your great mistake is to act the drama
as if you were alone. -
2:40 - 2:42As if life were a progressive
and cunning crime -
2:42 - 2:46with no witness, no witness
to the tiny hidden transgressions. -
2:46 - 2:50To feel abandoned is to deny
the intimacy of your surroundings. -
2:50 - 2:55Surely, surely, even you, at times,
have felt the grand array; -
2:55 - 2:57the swelling presence, and the chorus,
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2:57 - 3:00crowding out your solo voice.
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3:00 - 3:04You must note the way
the soap dish enables you, -
3:04 - 3:07or the window latch grants you courage.
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3:07 - 3:11Alertness, alertness is the hidden
discipline of familiarity, -
3:11 - 3:14alertness is the hidden
discipline of familiarity. -
3:14 - 3:18The stairs are your mentor
of things to come, -
3:18 - 3:22the doors have always been there
to frighten you and invite you, -
3:22 - 3:27and the tiny speaker in the phone
is your dream-ladder to divinity. -
3:27 - 3:31Put down the weight of your aloneness,
the weight of your aloneness -
3:31 - 3:33and ease into the conversation.
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3:33 - 3:34The kettle is singing,
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3:34 - 3:37the kettle is singing
even as it pours you a drink, -
3:37 - 3:39even as it pours you a drink,
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3:39 - 3:43the cooking pots have left
their arrogant aloofness -
3:43 - 3:46and seen the good in you at last.
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3:46 - 3:52All the birds and creatures of the world
are unutterably, unutterably themselves. -
3:52 - 3:55Everything, everything is waiting for you.
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3:56 - 3:58This is a piece I wrote called
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3:58 - 4:01"Inevitably everything
is waiting for you" -
4:01 - 4:03(Laughter)
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4:04 - 4:09to remind myself of
the conversational nature of reality. -
4:09 - 4:11And to begin with,
the title sounds vaguely positive - -
4:11 - 4:13everything is waiting for you -
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4:13 - 4:17until you realize
that everything is waiting for you -
4:17 - 4:21including your own demise
and disappearance. -
4:21 - 4:24And this demise and disappearance
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4:24 - 4:29is one of the difficult parts
of the conversational nature of reality. -
4:29 - 4:32And what do I mean by
"the conversational nature of reality"? -
4:32 - 4:33When you think about it,
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4:33 - 4:36there's no single element in the world
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4:36 - 4:40that's not bonded to, flying away from,
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4:40 - 4:44or catalytic with
another element in the world. -
4:44 - 4:47And every creature,
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4:47 - 4:50even the smallest single-celled creature
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4:50 - 4:52is in a thousand different conversations
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4:52 - 4:57with a thousand other elements
and dynamics and forms -
4:57 - 4:58in order to keep itself alive
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4:58 - 5:01and its environment alive.
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5:01 - 5:04And every ecosystem in the world
is this astonishing meeting, -
5:04 - 5:06this conversation,
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5:06 - 5:09between various dynamics
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5:09 - 5:13that contribute to this central
conversation of life. -
5:13 - 5:16I lived in the Galápagos Islands
for a couple of years as a naturalist, -
5:16 - 5:21and the richest place in Galápagos
is the western part of Isabela Island -
5:21 - 5:24where you're looking off
into the middle of the Pacific -
5:24 - 5:27for a good few thousand miles
to the Marquesas. -
5:27 - 5:28But in that place,
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5:28 - 5:30there's this upwelling current from below
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5:30 - 5:36that brings all of this astonishing
richness and nutrients and oxygen -
5:36 - 5:37from the depths
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5:37 - 5:39up to the warmth of the surface,
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5:39 - 5:44and when that oxygen and those nutrients
meet the warm water, -
5:44 - 5:47you get this astonishing
efflorescence of life. -
5:47 - 5:48But not only do you get
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5:48 - 5:53oxygen-rich, nutrient-rich
cold water meeting warm water, -
5:53 - 5:59you also have all of those elements
meeting the air, meeting the land, -
5:59 - 6:04meeting different gradations
of salinity and temperature. -
6:04 - 6:06Where all of those edges meet,
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6:06 - 6:09you get this astonishing conversation
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6:09 - 6:14and you get this astonishing
depth and plethora of life. -
6:14 - 6:20And so it's an interesting
question to ask yourself, -
6:20 - 6:23to ask the organization
that you're a part of -
6:23 - 6:27but also to ask yourself
as an individual identity, -
6:27 - 6:31How many edges in conversations
are actually meeting inside me? -
6:31 - 6:38Or am I a monocultural idea,
which I attempt to project upon reality? -
6:38 - 6:40(Laughter)
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6:40 - 6:46Because one of the essential dynamics of
the conversational nature of reality is, -
6:46 - 6:51whatever you as an individual
would like to happen in the world -
6:51 - 6:54will not happen exactly
as you would like it, -
6:55 - 6:59but equally, whatever the world,
your society, your organization, -
6:59 - 7:01the people you serve in life
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7:01 - 7:02want you to do
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7:02 - 7:05will also not occur.
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7:05 - 7:09You will not comply exactly
as they would like you to comply. -
7:09 - 7:13And what occurs is this third frontier,
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7:13 - 7:16this conversational reality, actually.
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7:16 - 7:20And the ability to actually
create an identity -
7:21 - 7:27where you can live at that frontier
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7:27 - 7:32is one of the great triumphs
of a human life -
7:32 - 7:33and has been celebrated
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7:33 - 7:37in all our cultures and traditions
since the beginning of time. -
7:37 - 7:42But it takes a different form of identity
than the strategic part of your mind, -
7:42 - 7:45which sees yourself
as a piece of ammunition -
7:45 - 7:50which you're going to fire
at the target of existence, you know. -
7:50 - 7:56And so the whole - to my mind -
the whole of existence, -
7:56 - 7:59the whole of creation,
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7:59 - 8:04is actually trying to find
an internal anchorage inside us -
8:04 - 8:09which reflects its astonishing
symmetry outside of us, -
8:09 - 8:12and that in order
for an individual human being -
8:12 - 8:14or an individual organization
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8:14 - 8:16to live out its life,
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8:16 - 8:21it has to find that edge between
its own particular signature and genius, -
8:21 - 8:27and what its being called into
by its surrounding world. -
8:27 - 8:33And the ability to live at that live edge
and to create an individual identity, -
8:33 - 8:37a leadership identity, if you're actually
helping to run an organization, -
8:37 - 8:39or a civic identity,
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8:39 - 8:44where you're representing
the future of your country, actually, -
8:44 - 8:46in a living imaginative way
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8:46 - 8:49is one of our necessary
disciplines of this time. -
8:49 - 8:51And you could say at the moment, you know,
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8:51 - 8:55with those squares
filled with people in Cairo, -
8:55 - 8:58you've got people there
who are on an edge, -
8:58 - 9:00who are on a frontier,
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9:00 - 9:05and they are in conversation
not only with what they know they want -
9:05 - 9:07but with this astonishing unknown,
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9:07 - 9:11which is about to come into incarnation
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9:11 - 9:15through the way that they're simply
paying attention to the future. -
9:16 - 9:22And there was a great line
by an early-20th-century Spanish poet, -
9:22 - 9:23Antonio Machado,
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9:23 - 9:24he said,
-
9:24 - 9:26"Caminante, no hay camino,
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9:26 - 9:29se hace camino al andar.
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9:29 - 9:31Al andar se hace el camino ..."
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9:31 - 9:33"Caminante - pathmaker -
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9:33 - 9:34there is no path.
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9:34 - 9:36Pathmaker, there is no path.
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9:36 - 9:39You make the path by walking.
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9:39 - 9:42By walking, you make the path."
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9:42 - 9:48And he's looking at what the physicists
and students of complexity -
9:48 - 9:52would say is the iterative
nature of reality, -
9:52 - 9:58that you actually change the world
by actually meeting it -
9:59 - 10:01simply by being present
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10:01 - 10:04and simply by beginning a conversation.
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10:04 - 10:06That conversation can be verbal,
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10:06 - 10:12but the world can also be changed
through your attentive presence. -
10:12 - 10:14And we all know this
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10:14 - 10:18and the way we can actually change
the conversation with another person -
10:18 - 10:21through being attentive
and present in listening, -
10:21 - 10:22but we also know
-
10:22 - 10:26in the abstruse theory of particle physics
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10:26 - 10:30that the observer actually moves the world
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10:30 - 10:33by the way they are actually
looking at that world. -
10:33 - 10:38So everything, no matter
where you are, how you stand, -
10:38 - 10:41is being affected by the way you stand.
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10:41 - 10:45And so it seems to me that reality
is constantly coming to our door -
10:45 - 10:48and saying, "Why not
get with the program?" -
10:49 - 10:51"Why not come out from behind yourself,
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10:51 - 10:57get out from behind this wall
you've set up for yourself -
10:57 - 10:59that you call you,
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10:59 - 11:02and meet something other than yourself?"
-
11:02 - 11:06And there was a great old -
what I thought was a Taoist poem. -
11:07 - 11:11I recited and read this poem
to myself for years, -
11:11 - 11:16and I thought it was a Taoist sage
and it was written about 2,000 years ago. -
11:16 - 11:19It turns out it was written
by an Irish fellow, a Dubliner, -
11:19 - 11:20in the 1920s.
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11:20 - 11:21(Laughter)
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11:22 - 11:24But this fellow is a brilliant writer,
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11:24 - 11:28and he wrote in such a Taoist style
that he gave himself a Chinese name, -
11:28 - 11:30which was [Wei Wu Wei].
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11:30 - 11:32But he was an Irish fellow,
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11:32 - 11:38and there I was saying, "Chinese sage,
[Wei Wu Wei], dadadada," -
11:38 - 11:41and it turns out, you know, that -
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11:42 - 11:46but this is a brilliant little piece
written in the Taoist style, and he says, -
11:46 - 11:49"Why are you unhappy?
Why are you unhappy?" -
11:49 - 11:53Just relax. He's Irish and he's a poet -
he'll answer it for you. -
11:53 - 11:54"Why are you unhappy?
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11:54 - 11:59Because 98.98%
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11:59 - 12:03of everything you do
and all that you say is for yourself, -
12:03 - 12:05and there isn't one."
-
12:06 - 12:07"Why are you unhappy?
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12:07 - 12:13Because 98.98% of everything you do
and all that you say is for yourself, -
12:13 - 12:15and there isn't one."
-
12:16 - 12:17What does he mean by that?
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12:17 - 12:21There's no self that will survive
a real conversation. -
12:21 - 12:28There's no self that will survive a real
meeting with something other than itself. -
12:28 - 12:32There's no organization
that will keep its original identity -
12:33 - 12:35if it's in the conversation.
-
12:35 - 12:36And after a while,
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12:36 - 12:41you realize you don't want
to actually keep that old static identity; -
12:41 - 12:44you want to move
the pivot of your presence -
12:44 - 12:47from this thing you think is you
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12:47 - 12:50into this meeting with the future,
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12:51 - 12:52with the people you serve,
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12:53 - 12:54with your family,
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12:54 - 12:56with your loved ones.
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12:56 - 12:58And it's in this self-forgetfulness,
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12:58 - 13:00where you meet something
other than yourself, -
13:00 - 13:03that all kinds of
astonishing things happen. -
13:03 - 13:05And I worked for a good few years
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13:05 - 13:09with all of the top managers
at the Boeing company -
13:09 - 13:14and working with the conversational nature
of the business reality. -
13:14 - 13:18But at the end of it, they asked me to -
-
13:18 - 13:21they commissioned me to write a poem
for the triple seven aeroplane, -
13:21 - 13:23which was about to be launched
-
13:23 - 13:26and which had just won
a big aerospace trophy, -
13:26 - 13:29and there was to be a huge dinner
in celebration of this trophy, -
13:29 - 13:33and they wanted a poem
at everyone's placing. -
13:33 - 13:36And so I had the phone call
from the executive, -
13:36 - 13:38saying, "Would you write
a poem for the triple seven?" -
13:38 - 13:41And I said, "Poets don't do very well
under these circumstances." -
13:41 - 13:47I said, "They usually write
very, very bad poetry." -
13:48 - 13:50But I said, "I'll have a go at it,
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13:50 - 13:52and if I have anything decent,
I'll send it to you, -
13:52 - 13:55but otherwise, you should
just have a blank space there." -
13:55 - 13:59Pasternak said at the convocation
for the five-year plan, -
13:59 - 14:01"The poet's seat should be empty" -
-
14:02 - 14:04during the Soviet days -
-
14:04 - 14:08at the convocation for the five-year plan,
the poet's seat should be empty. -
14:08 - 14:10But anyway, I had a go
at the old five-year plan, -
14:11 - 14:13and I sat down and I said to myself,
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14:13 - 14:16"You know, you spent a good deal
of your life on aeroplanes, -
14:16 - 14:19so just put yourself back in that seat."
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14:19 - 14:20And I did.
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14:20 - 14:26And I had this sudden remembrance
of what it's like to be on a plane, -
14:27 - 14:28where quite often
-
14:28 - 14:30you have this astonishing creation
outside the windows. -
14:30 - 14:32You can be flying into San Francisco,
-
14:32 - 14:34the sun's going down
over the Oakland hills, -
14:34 - 14:37the moon's coming up
over the ocean, you know, -
14:37 - 14:39and it's absolutely astonishing.
-
14:39 - 14:43You look inside the plane -
everyone's reading People magazine. -
14:43 - 14:44You're flying over the Alps,
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14:44 - 14:46you're looking down
at Mont Blanc, you know, -
14:47 - 14:50everyone's working on their BlackBerry.
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14:50 - 14:53So one of the dynamics
of being up in the plane -
14:53 - 14:59is that no one really wants to face up
to the reality of what they're doing, yes. -
15:00 - 15:04You look out of the window -
there's no visible means of support. -
15:04 - 15:06(Laughter)
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15:06 - 15:10I'm not having the conversation;
it's not occurring. -
15:10 - 15:14I'm in my own little world,
and I don't have to participate. -
15:15 - 15:17But sometimes, as you're dropping down
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15:17 - 15:22through these astonishing levels
of humidity and temperature, -
15:22 - 15:24you will sometimes
be privileged with a view -
15:24 - 15:31of that white line
passing over the curve of the wing, -
15:32 - 15:36and you realize that the forces
that are holding the plane up -
15:36 - 15:38are as solid as concrete,
-
15:38 - 15:41but they're made up of a conversation
-
15:41 - 15:45between the velocity of the plane
and the shape of the wing, -
15:45 - 15:47and you need both -
-
15:47 - 15:50if you lose either end
of the conversation, -
15:50 - 15:54you're going to arrive
a lot earlier than you'd like. -
15:54 - 15:55(Laughter)
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15:55 - 15:59So you don't get to choose
between yourself and this other, -
15:59 - 16:03between the shape of yourself
and what's passing around you. -
16:03 - 16:07So this is the piece
I wrote for the plane, -
16:07 - 16:09but also to look at the way
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16:09 - 16:12that human beings
can travel enormous distances - -
16:12 - 16:14they don't have to do the work;
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16:14 - 16:16they simply have to have the conversation,
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16:16 - 16:20and the conversation
does all the work for you. -
16:21 - 16:23The organization doesn't
have to do the work; -
16:23 - 16:26it just has to have the conversation
with the people itself. -
16:26 - 16:30The conversation creates a dynamic
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16:30 - 16:33whereby you look around
and the work's being done. -
16:34 - 16:38So I don't have to take the world on
as a burden and a weight; -
16:38 - 16:39I don't have to kill myself
-
16:39 - 16:43even if I'm in a real position
of responsibility. -
16:43 - 16:49I just have to turn to face
towards what is actually calling me -
16:49 - 16:51and what I'm surrounded by.
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16:52 - 16:59So this is the piece,
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16:59 - 17:02and it's called "Working Together."
-
17:04 - 17:06We shape our selves to fit this world,
-
17:06 - 17:08we shape our selves to fit this world
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17:08 - 17:10and by the world are shaped again.
-
17:10 - 17:12We shape our selves to fit this world
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17:12 - 17:14and by the world are shaped again.
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17:14 - 17:19The visible and the invisible
working together in common cause, -
17:19 - 17:21to produce the miraculous.
-
17:21 - 17:24We shape our selves to fit this world
-
17:24 - 17:26and by the world are shaped again.
-
17:26 - 17:31The visible and the invisible
working together in common cause, -
17:31 - 17:33to produce the miraculous,
-
17:33 - 17:34to produce the miraculous.
-
17:34 - 17:35I am thinking of the way,
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17:35 - 17:37I am thinking of the way
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17:37 - 17:42the intangible air traveled at speed
round a shaped wing -
17:42 - 17:43easily holds our weight.
-
17:43 - 17:44I'm thinking of the way
-
17:44 - 17:49the intangible air traveled at speed
round a shaped wing -
17:49 - 17:50easily holds our weight.
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17:51 - 17:52So may we,
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17:52 - 17:55so may we, in this life trust
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17:55 - 18:00to those elements
we have yet to see or imagine. -
18:00 - 18:02So may we, in this life trust
-
18:02 - 18:05to those elements
we have yet to see or imagine, -
18:05 - 18:10and find the true shape,
find the true shape of our own selves, -
18:10 - 18:15by forming it well
to the great intangibles about us. -
18:17 - 18:19We shape our selves,
-
18:19 - 18:21we shape our selves to fit this world
-
18:21 - 18:24and by the world are shaped again.
-
18:24 - 18:27The visible and the invisible
working together in common cause, -
18:27 - 18:30to produce the miraculous,
-
18:30 - 18:31the miraculous.
-
18:31 - 18:34I'm thinking of the way the intangible air
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18:34 - 18:37traveled at speed round a shaped wing
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18:37 - 18:39easily holds our weight.
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18:39 - 18:44So may we, in this life,
in this life trust -
18:44 - 18:47to those elements
we have yet to see or imagine, -
18:47 - 18:51trust to those elements
we have yet to see or imagine, -
18:51 - 18:52and find the true shape,
-
18:52 - 18:57the true shape of our own selves
by forming it well, -
18:57 - 19:02by forming it well
to the great intangibles about us. -
19:09 - 19:10Thank you very much.
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19:10 - 19:13(Applause)
- Title:
- Life at the frontier: the conversational nature of reality | David Whyte | TEDxPugetSound
- Description:
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Internationally acclaimed poet David Whyte encourages us to remain open to the dialogues we have, the conversations we have, with our surroundings and ourselves that inform and inspire our ideas.
Poet David Whyte is an Associate Fellow at Templeton College and Said Business School at the University of Oxford. He works with many European, American and international companies, using poetry and thoughtful commentary to illustrate how we can foster qualities of courage and engagement.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx.
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- Duration:
- 19:14