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Doctor: Nobody knows what causes it.
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And nobody knows how to cure it.
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The best theory is that we blame a retrovirus.
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The human immunodeficiency virus.
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Its presence is made known to us by the useless antibodies
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which appear in reaction to its entrance into the bloodstream
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through a cut, or an orifice.
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The antibodies are powerless to protect the body against it. Why?
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We don't know.
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The body's immune system ceases to function.
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Sometimes the body even attacks itself.
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At any rate it's left open to a whole horror house of infections
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from microbes it usually defends against.
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Like those Kaposi Sarcomas,
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those lesions on your arms. Or your throat problem.
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Or the glands.
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We think it may also be able to slip past the blood-brain barrier into the brain.
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Which is, of course, very bad news.
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And it's fatal.
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And we don't know what percent of people
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with suppressed immune response is.
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Roy: Very interesting, Mr. Wizard.
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Why the fuck are you telling me this?
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Doctor: Well I have just removed one of three lesions.
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Which biopsy results will probably tell us is a Kaposi Sarcoma lesion.
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And you have a pronounced swelling
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of glands in your neck, groin and armpits.
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Lymphadenopathy is another sign.
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And you have Oral candidiasis.
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And maybe a little more fungus under the fingernails
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of two digits on your right hand.
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So. That's why I'm...
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Roy: Uhh. This disease.
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Doctor: Syndrome.
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Roy: Whatever.
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It afflicts mostly homosexuals and drug addicts.
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Doctor: Mostly. Hemophiliacs are also at risk.
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Roy: Homosexuals and drug addicts.
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So why are you implying
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that I - what are you implying Henry?
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Doctor: I don't think that I was implying anything.
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Roy: I'm not a drug addict.
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Doctor: Oh, come on Roy.
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Roy: What? Well come on, well what?
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You think I'm a junkie?
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Henry? Do you see tracks?
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Doctor: This is absurd.
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Roy: So say it.
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Doctor: Say what?
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Roy: Say, Roy Cohn you are a
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Doctor: Roy.
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Roy: You are a...come on.
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Not Roy Cohn, you are a drug fiend.
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Roy Marcus Cohn you are a...
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go on Henry it starts with an 'H'.
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Doctor: Oh, I'm not going to get into -
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Roy: With an 'H' Henry.
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And it isn't hemophiliac! Come on!
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Doctor: Why are you doing this Roy?
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Roy: No. I mean it. Say it.
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Say, Roy Cohn, you are a homosexual.
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And I will proceed systematically to destroy your reputation.
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And your practice.
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And your career. In the state of New York Henry.
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Which you know I can do.
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Doctor: Roy. You have been seeing me since 1958.
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Apart from the face-lifts, I have treated you for everything from Syphilis...
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Roy: From a whore in Dallas!
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Doctor: from syphilis, to venereal warts, in your rectum.
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Which you may have gotten from a whore in Dallas,
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but it wasn't a female whore.
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Roy: So, say it.
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Doctor: Roy Cohn, you are ... [sighs]
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you have had sex with men.
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Many, many times Roy.
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And one of those men, or any number of them has made you very sick.
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You have AIDS.
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Roy: AIDS.
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You know you're problem Henry
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is that you are hung up on words.
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On labels.
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That you believe that they mean what they seem to mean.
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AIDS. Homosexual. Gay. Lesbian.
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You think these are names
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that tell you who someone sleeps with.
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They don't tell you that!
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No?
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No!
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Like all labels. They tell you one thing.
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One thing only.
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Where does an individual so identified fit in the food chain.
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In the pecking order.
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Not idealology or sexual taste,
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but something much simpler
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Clout.
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Not who I fuck.
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Or who fucks me, but who will pick up the phone when I call.
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Who owes me favors.
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This is what a label refers to.
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Now to someone who does not understand
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this homosexual is what I am
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because I have sex with men.
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But really this is wrong.
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Homosexuals are not men who sleep with other men.
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Homosexuals are men who in 15 years of trying
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cannot pass a pissant anti-discrimination bill through city council.
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Homosexuals are men who know nobody,
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and whom nobody knows.
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Who have zero clout.
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Does this sound like me Henry?
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Doctor: No.
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Roy: No. I have clout.
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Lots.
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I pick up this phone, I punch 15 numbers
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do you know who is on the other end?
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In under 5 minutes Henry.
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Doctor: The President.
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Roy: Better Henry. His wife.
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Doctor: I'm impressed.
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Roy: I don't want you to be impressed.
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I want you to understand.
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This is not sophistry.
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And this is not hypocrisy.
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This is reality.
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I have sex with men.
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But unlike nearly every other man of whom this is true
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I bring the guy I am screwing to the White House.
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And President Reagan smiles at us and shakes his hand.
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Because what I am is defined entirely by who I am.
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Roy Cohn is not a homosexual.
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Roy Cohn is a heterosexual man,
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Henry, who fucks around with guys.
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Doctor: Ok Roy.
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Roy: And what is my diagnosis Henry?
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Doctor: You have AIDS Roy.
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Roy: No. Henry. No.
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AIDS is what homosexuals have.
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I have liver cancer.
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Doctor: Well whatever the fuck you have, it's very serious.
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And I haven't got a damn thing for you.
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Bethesda has a new drug called 'EZT'
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with a two year waiting list that even I can not get you on to.
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So pick up the phone Roy.
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And dial the 15 numbers and tell the First Lady
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that you need in on an experimental treatment for liver cancer.
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Because you can call it any damn thing you want to Roy,
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but what it boils down to ...
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is very bad news.