Gaming to re-engage boys in learning
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0:00 - 0:02So I'm here to tell you
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0:02 - 0:04that we have a problem with boys,
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0:04 - 0:06and it's a serious problem with boys.
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0:06 - 0:09Their culture isn't working in schools,
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0:09 - 0:11and I'm going to share with you
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0:11 - 0:14ways that we can think about overcoming that problem.
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0:14 - 0:17First, I want to start by saying, this is a boy,
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0:17 - 0:19and this is a girl,
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0:19 - 0:21and this is probably stereotypically
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0:21 - 0:23what you think of as a boy and a girl.
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0:23 - 0:25If I essentialize gender for you today,
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0:25 - 0:27then you can dismiss what I have to say.
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0:27 - 0:29So I'm not going to do that. I'm not interested in doing that.
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0:29 - 0:32This is a different kind of boy and a different kind of girl.
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0:33 - 0:35So the point here is that not all boys
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0:35 - 0:37exist within these rigid boundaries
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0:37 - 0:40of what we think of as boys and girls,
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0:40 - 0:42and not all girls exist within those rigid boundaries
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0:42 - 0:44of what we think of as girls.
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0:44 - 0:47But, in fact, most boys tend to be a certain way,
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0:47 - 0:49and most girls tend to be a certain way.
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0:49 - 0:52And the point is that, for boys,
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0:52 - 0:55the way that they exist and the culture that they embrace
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0:55 - 0:57isn't working well in schools now.
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0:57 - 0:59How do we know that?
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0:59 - 1:01The Hundred Girls Project
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1:01 - 1:04tells us some really nice statistics.
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1:04 - 1:07For example, for every 100 girls that are suspended from school,
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1:07 - 1:10there are 250 boys that are suspended from school.
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1:10 - 1:13For every 100 girls who are expelled from school,
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1:13 - 1:16there are 335 boys who are expelled from school.
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1:16 - 1:18For every 100 girls in special education,
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1:18 - 1:20there are 217 boys.
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1:20 - 1:22For every 100 girls with a learning disability,
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1:22 - 1:25there are 276 boys.
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1:25 - 1:27For every 100 girls
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1:27 - 1:29with an emotional disturbance diagnosed,
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1:29 - 1:31we have 324 boys.
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1:31 - 1:34And by the way, all of these numbers are significantly higher
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1:34 - 1:36if you happen to be black,
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1:36 - 1:38if you happen to be poor,
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1:38 - 1:41if you happen to exist in an overcrowded school.
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1:42 - 1:44And if you are a boy,
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1:44 - 1:46you're four times as likely
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1:46 - 1:48to be diagnosed with ADHD --
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1:48 - 1:51Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.
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1:51 - 1:54Now there is another side to this.
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1:54 - 1:57And it is important that we recognize
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1:57 - 1:59that women still need help in school,
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1:59 - 2:01that salaries are still significantly lower,
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2:01 - 2:04even when controlled for job types,
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2:04 - 2:06and that girls have continued to struggle
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2:06 - 2:08in math and science for years.
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2:08 - 2:10That's all true.
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2:10 - 2:12Nothing about that prevents us
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2:12 - 2:14from paying attention to the literacy needs
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2:14 - 2:16of our boys between ages three and 13.
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2:16 - 2:18And so we should.
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2:18 - 2:21In fact, what we ought to do is take a page from their playbook,
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2:21 - 2:23because the initiatives and programs
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2:23 - 2:25that have been set in place
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2:25 - 2:27for women in science and engineering and mathematics
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2:27 - 2:29are fantastic.
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2:29 - 2:31They've done a lot of good
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2:31 - 2:33for girls in these situations,
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2:33 - 2:35and we ought to be thinking about
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2:35 - 2:37how we can make that happen for boys too
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2:37 - 2:39in their younger years.
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2:39 - 2:41Even in their older years,
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2:41 - 2:43what we find is that there's still a problem.
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2:43 - 2:45When we look at the universities,
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2:45 - 2:4860 percent of baccalaureate degrees are going to women now,
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2:48 - 2:50which is a significant shift.
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2:50 - 2:52And in fact, university administrators
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2:52 - 2:54are a little uncomfortable about the idea
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2:54 - 2:56that we may be getting close to 70 percent
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2:56 - 2:58female population in universities.
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2:58 - 3:01This makes university administrators very nervous,
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3:01 - 3:04because girls don't want to go to schools that don't have boys.
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3:06 - 3:09And so we're starting to see the establishment
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3:09 - 3:11of men centers and men studies
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3:11 - 3:13to think about how do we engage men
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3:13 - 3:15in their experiences in the university.
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3:15 - 3:17If you talk to faculty, they may say,
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3:17 - 3:20"Ugh. Yeah, well, they're playing video games,
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3:20 - 3:23and they're gambling online all night long,
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3:23 - 3:25and they're playing World of Warcraft,
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3:25 - 3:27and that's affecting
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3:27 - 3:30their academic achievement."
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3:30 - 3:32Guess what?
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3:32 - 3:34Video games are not the cause.
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3:34 - 3:36Video games are a symptom.
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3:36 - 3:38They were turned off a long time
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3:38 - 3:41before they got here.
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3:41 - 3:43So let's talk about why they got turned off
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3:43 - 3:46when they were between the ages of three and 13.
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3:46 - 3:48There are three reasons that I believe
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3:48 - 3:50that boys are out of sync
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3:50 - 3:52with the culture of schools today.
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3:52 - 3:55The first is zero tolerance.
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3:55 - 3:57A kindergarten teacher I know,
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3:57 - 4:00her son donated all of his toys to her,
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4:00 - 4:03and when he did, she had to go through
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4:03 - 4:06and pull out all the little plastic guns.
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4:07 - 4:09You can't have plastic knives and swords and axes
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4:09 - 4:11and all that kind of thing
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4:11 - 4:13in a kindergarten classroom.
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4:13 - 4:16What is it that we're afraid that this young man is going to do with this gun?
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4:16 - 4:18I mean, really.
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4:18 - 4:21But here he stands as testament
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4:21 - 4:24to the fact that you can't roughhouse on the playground today.
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4:24 - 4:26Now I'm not advocating for bullies.
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4:26 - 4:28I'm not suggesting
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4:28 - 4:31that we need to be allowing guns and knives into school.
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4:31 - 4:33But when we say
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4:33 - 4:35that an Eagle Scout in a high school classroom
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4:35 - 4:37who has a locked parked car in the parking lot
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4:37 - 4:39and a penknife in it
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4:39 - 4:41has to be suspended from school,
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4:41 - 4:44I think we may have gone a little too far with zero tolerance.
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4:44 - 4:47Another way that zero tolerance lives itself out is in the writing of boys.
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4:47 - 4:49In a lot of classrooms today
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4:49 - 4:51you're not allowed to write about anything that's violent.
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4:51 - 4:53You're not allowed to write about anything
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4:53 - 4:56that has to do with video games -- these topics are banned.
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4:56 - 4:58Boy comes home from school, and he says,
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4:58 - 5:00"I hate writing."
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5:00 - 5:02"Why do you hate writing, son? What's wrong with writing?"
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5:02 - 5:05"Now I have to write what she tells me to write."
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5:05 - 5:08"Okay, what is she telling you to write?"
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5:08 - 5:10"Poems. I have to write poems.
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5:10 - 5:12And little moments in my life.
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5:12 - 5:14I don't want to write that stuff."
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5:14 - 5:17"All right. Well, what do you want to write? What do you want to write about?"
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5:17 - 5:20"I want to write about video games. I want to write about leveling-up.
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5:20 - 5:22I want to write about this really interesting world.
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5:22 - 5:25I want to write about a tornado that comes into our house
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5:25 - 5:27and blows all the windows out
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5:27 - 5:29and ruins all the furniture and kills everybody."
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5:29 - 5:31"All right. Okay."
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5:31 - 5:33You tell a teacher that,
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5:33 - 5:36and they'll ask you, in all seriousness,
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5:36 - 5:39"Should we send this child to the psychologist?"
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5:39 - 5:42And the answer is no, he's just a boy.
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5:42 - 5:45He's just a little boy.
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5:45 - 5:47It's not okay to write these kinds of things
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5:47 - 5:49in classrooms today.
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5:49 - 5:51So that's the first reason:
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5:51 - 5:53zero tolerance policies and the way they're lived out.
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5:53 - 5:56The next reason that boys' cultures are out of sync with school cultures:
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5:56 - 5:58there are fewer male teachers.
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5:58 - 6:01Anybody who's over 15 doesn't know what this means,
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6:01 - 6:03because in the last 10 years,
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6:03 - 6:05the number of elementary school classroom teachers
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6:05 - 6:07has been cut in half.
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6:07 - 6:09We went from 14 percent
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6:09 - 6:11to seven percent.
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6:11 - 6:13That means that 93 percent of the teachers
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6:13 - 6:15that our young men get in elementary classrooms
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6:15 - 6:17are women.
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6:17 - 6:19Now what's the problem with this?
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6:19 - 6:21Women are great. Yep, absolutely.
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6:21 - 6:24But male role models for boys
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6:24 - 6:26that say it's all right to be smart --
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6:26 - 6:28they've got dads, they've got pastors,
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6:28 - 6:30they've got Cub Scout leaders,
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6:30 - 6:33but ultimately, six hours a day, five days a week
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6:33 - 6:35they're spending in a classroom,
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6:35 - 6:37and most of those classrooms
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6:37 - 6:39are not places where men exist.
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6:39 - 6:42And so they say, I guess this really isn't a place for boys.
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6:42 - 6:44This is a place for girls.
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6:44 - 6:46And I'm not very good at this,
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6:46 - 6:48so I guess I'd better
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6:48 - 6:51go play video games or get into sports, or something like that,
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6:51 - 6:53because I obviously don't belong here.
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6:53 - 6:55Men don't belong here, that's pretty obvious.
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6:55 - 6:57So that may be a very direct way
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6:57 - 6:59that we see it happen.
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6:59 - 7:01But less directly,
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7:01 - 7:04the lack of male presence in the culture --
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7:04 - 7:06you've got a teachers' lounge,
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7:06 - 7:08and they're having a conversation
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7:08 - 7:11about Joey and Johnny who beat each other up on the playground.
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7:11 - 7:13"What are we going to do with these boys?"
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7:13 - 7:16The answer to that question changes depending on who's sitting around that table.
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7:16 - 7:18Are there men around that table?
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7:18 - 7:21Are there moms who've raised boys around that table?
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7:21 - 7:23You'll see, the conversation changes
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7:23 - 7:25depending upon who's sitting around the table.
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7:25 - 7:28Third reason that boys are out of sync with school today:
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7:28 - 7:31kindergarten is the old second grade, folks.
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7:31 - 7:34We have a serious compression of the curriculum happening out there.
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7:35 - 7:37When you're three, you better be able to write your name legibly,
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7:37 - 7:40or else we'll consider it a developmental delay.
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7:40 - 7:42By the time you're in first grade,
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7:42 - 7:45you should be able to read paragraphs of text
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7:45 - 7:47with maybe a picture, maybe not,
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7:47 - 7:49in a book of maybe 25 to 30 pages.
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7:49 - 7:51If you don't, we're probably going to be putting you
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7:51 - 7:53into a Title 1 special reading program.
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7:53 - 7:55And if you ask Title 1 teachers, they'll tell you
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7:55 - 7:58they've got about four or five boys for every girl that's in their program,
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7:58 - 8:00in the elementary grades.
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8:00 - 8:03The reason that this is a problem
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8:03 - 8:06is because the message that boys are getting
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8:06 - 8:08is "you need to do
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8:08 - 8:11what the teacher asks you to do all the time."
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8:11 - 8:14The teacher's salary depends
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8:14 - 8:16on "No Child Left Behind" and "Race to the Top"
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8:16 - 8:18and accountability and testing
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8:18 - 8:20and all of this.
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8:20 - 8:22So she has to figure out a way
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8:22 - 8:25to get all these boys through this curriculum --
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8:25 - 8:27and girls.
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8:27 - 8:29This compressed curriculum is bad
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8:29 - 8:32for all active kids.
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8:32 - 8:34And what happens is,
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8:34 - 8:37she says, "Please, sit down,
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8:37 - 8:40be quiet, do what you're told, follow the rules,
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8:40 - 8:42manage your time, focus,
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8:42 - 8:44be a girl."
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8:44 - 8:46That's what she tells them.
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8:46 - 8:49Indirectly, that's what she tells them.
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8:49 - 8:51And so this is a very serious problem. Where is it coming from?
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8:51 - 8:53It's coming from us.
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8:53 - 8:56(Laughter)
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8:56 - 8:59We want our babies to read when they are six months old.
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8:59 - 9:01Have you seen the ads?
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9:01 - 9:03We want to live in Lake Wobegon
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9:03 - 9:06where every child is above average,
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9:06 - 9:09but what this does to our children is really not healthy.
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9:09 - 9:11It's not developmentally appropriate,
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9:11 - 9:13and it's particularly bad for boys.
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9:13 - 9:15So what do we do?
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9:15 - 9:17We need to meet them where they are.
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9:17 - 9:20We need to put ourselves into boy culture.
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9:20 - 9:23We need to change the mindset
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9:23 - 9:26of acceptance in boys in elementary schools.
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9:27 - 9:30More specifically, we can do some very specific things.
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9:30 - 9:32We can design better games.
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9:32 - 9:34Most of the educational games that are out there today
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9:34 - 9:36are really flashcards.
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9:36 - 9:38They're glorified drill and practice.
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9:38 - 9:41They don't have the depth, the rich narrative
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9:41 - 9:43that really engaging video games have,
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9:43 - 9:45that the boys are really interested in.
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9:45 - 9:47So we need to design better games.
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9:47 - 9:49We need to talk to teachers and parents
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9:49 - 9:51and school board members and politicians.
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9:51 - 9:54We need to make sure that people see that we need more men in the classroom.
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9:54 - 9:56We need to look carefully at our zero tolerance policies.
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9:56 - 9:58Do they make sense?
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9:58 - 10:00We need to think about
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10:00 - 10:03how to uncompress this curriculum if we can,
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10:03 - 10:05trying to bring boys back into a space
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10:05 - 10:07that is comfortable for them.
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10:07 - 10:09All of those conversations need to be happening.
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10:09 - 10:11There are some great examples out there
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10:11 - 10:13of schools --
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10:13 - 10:15the New York Times just talked about a school recently.
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10:15 - 10:18A game designer from the New School
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10:18 - 10:21put together a wonderful video gaming school.
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10:21 - 10:24But it only treats a few kids,
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10:24 - 10:26and so this isn't very scalable.
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10:26 - 10:28We have to change the culture and the feelings
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10:28 - 10:31that politicians and school board members and parents have
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10:31 - 10:33about the way we accept and what we accept
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10:33 - 10:35in our schools today.
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10:36 - 10:38We need to find more money for game design.
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10:38 - 10:40Because good games, really good games, cost money,
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10:40 - 10:42and World of Warcraft has quite a budget.
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10:42 - 10:44Most of the educational games do not.
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10:44 - 10:46Where we started:
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10:46 - 10:49my colleagues -- Mike Petner, Shawn Vashaw, myself --
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10:49 - 10:51we started by trying to look at the teachers' attitudes
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10:51 - 10:53and find out how do they really feel about gaming,
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10:53 - 10:55what do they say about it.
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10:55 - 10:57And we discovered
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10:57 - 10:59that they talk about the kids in their school,
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10:59 - 11:01who talk about gaming,
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11:01 - 11:03in pretty demeaning ways.
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11:03 - 11:06They say, "Oh, yeah. They're always talking about that stuff.
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11:06 - 11:08They're talking about their little action figures
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11:08 - 11:11and their little achievements or merit badges,
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11:11 - 11:13or whatever it is that they get.
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11:13 - 11:15And they're always talking about this stuff."
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11:15 - 11:17And they say these things as if it's okay.
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11:17 - 11:19But if it were your culture,
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11:19 - 11:21think of how that might feel.
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11:21 - 11:23It's very uncomfortable to be on the receiving end
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11:23 - 11:25of that kind of language.
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11:25 - 11:27They're nervous about anything
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11:27 - 11:29that has anything to do with violence
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11:29 - 11:31because of the zero tolerance policies.
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11:31 - 11:34They are sure that parents and administrators will never accept anything.
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11:34 - 11:37So we really need to think about looking at teacher attitudes
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11:37 - 11:40and finding ways to change the attitudes
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11:40 - 11:42so that teachers are much more open
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11:42 - 11:45and accepting of boy cultures in their classrooms.
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11:45 - 11:47Because, ultimately, if we don't,
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11:47 - 11:50then we're going to have boys who leave elementary school saying,
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11:50 - 11:52"Well I guess that was just a place for girls.
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11:52 - 11:54It wasn't for me.
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11:54 - 11:57So I've got to do gaming, or I've got to do sports."
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11:57 - 12:00If we change these things, if we pay attention to these things,
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12:00 - 12:02and we re-engage boys in their learning,
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12:02 - 12:05they will leave the elementary schools saying, "I'm smart."
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12:05 - 12:07Thank you.
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12:07 - 12:09(Applause)
- Title:
- Gaming to re-engage boys in learning
- Speaker:
- Ali Carr-Chellman
- Description:
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At TEDxPSU, Ali Carr-Chellman pinpoints three reasons boys are tuning out of school in droves, and lays out her bold plan to re-engage them: bringing their culture into the classroom, with new rules that let boys be boys, and video games that teach as well as entertain.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 12:09
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The English transcript was updated on 11/23/2016.