Gaming to re-engage boys in learning
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0:01 - 0:04So I'm here to tell you
that we have a problem with boys, -
0:04 - 0:06and it's a serious problem with boys.
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0:07 - 0:09Their culture isn't working in schools,
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0:09 - 0:11and I'm going to share with you ways
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0:11 - 0:14that we can think
about overcoming that problem. -
0:14 - 0:17First, I want to start
by saying, this is a boy, -
0:17 - 0:20and this is a girl,
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0:20 - 0:23and this is probably stereotypically
what you think of as a boy and a girl. -
0:23 - 0:27If I essentialize gender for you today,
then you can dismiss what I have to say. -
0:27 - 0:30So I'm not going to do that,
I'm not interested in doing that. -
0:30 - 0:33This is a different kind of boy
and a different kind of girl. -
0:33 - 0:38So the point here is that not all boys
exist within these rigid boundaries -
0:38 - 0:40of what we think of as boys and girls,
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0:40 - 0:43and not all girls exist
within those rigid boundaries -
0:43 - 0:44of what we think of as girls.
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0:44 - 0:48But, in fact, most boys
tend to be a certain way, -
0:48 - 0:50and most girls tend to be a certain way.
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0:50 - 0:52And the point is that, for boys,
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0:52 - 0:55the way that they exist
and the culture that they embrace -
0:55 - 0:58isn't working well in schools now.
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0:58 - 0:59How do we know that?
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0:59 - 1:04The 100 girls project
tells us some really nice statistics. -
1:04 - 1:07For example, for every 100 girls
that are suspended from school, -
1:07 - 1:10there are 250 boys
that are suspended from school. -
1:10 - 1:13For every 100 girls
who are expelled from school, -
1:13 - 1:16there are 335 boys
who are expelled from school. -
1:16 - 1:18For every 100 girls in special education,
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1:18 - 1:20there are 217 boys.
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1:21 - 1:23For every 100 girls
with a learning disability, -
1:23 - 1:25there are 276 boys.
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1:25 - 1:30For every 100 girls
with an emotional disturbance diagnosed, -
1:30 - 1:32we have 324 boys.
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1:32 - 1:35And by the way, all of these numbers
are significantly higher -
1:35 - 1:37if you happen to be black,
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1:37 - 1:38if you happen to be poor,
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1:38 - 1:41if you happen to exist
in an overcrowded school. -
1:42 - 1:44And if you are a boy,
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1:44 - 1:48you're four times as likely
to be diagnosed with ADHD -- -
1:48 - 1:51Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.
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1:51 - 1:54Now there is another side to this.
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1:54 - 2:00And it is important that we recognize
that women still need help in school, -
2:00 - 2:02that salaries are still
significantly lower, -
2:02 - 2:04even when controlled for job types,
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2:04 - 2:08and that girls have continued to struggle
in math and science for years. -
2:09 - 2:10That's all true.
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2:10 - 2:12Nothing about that prevents us
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2:12 - 2:14from paying attention
to the literacy needs -
2:14 - 2:16of our boys between ages three and 13.
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2:17 - 2:18And so we should.
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2:18 - 2:21In fact, what we ought to do
is take a page from their playbook, -
2:21 - 2:25because the initiatives and programs
that have been set in place -
2:25 - 2:29for women in science and engineering
and mathematics are fantastic. -
2:29 - 2:33They've done a lot of good
for girls in these situations, -
2:33 - 2:37and we ought to be thinking about
how we can make that happen for boys too -
2:37 - 2:38in their younger years.
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2:39 - 2:41Even in their older years,
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2:41 - 2:43what we find is that
there's still a problem. -
2:44 - 2:45When we look at the universities,
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2:45 - 2:4860 percent of baccalaureate degrees
are going to women now, -
2:48 - 2:50which is a significant shift.
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2:50 - 2:54And in fact, university administrators
are a little uncomfortable about the idea -
2:54 - 2:59that we may be getting close to 70 percent
female population in universities. -
2:59 - 3:01This makes university
administrators very nervous, -
3:01 - 3:04because girls don't want to go
to schools that don't have boys. -
3:07 - 3:09And so we're starting to see
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3:09 - 3:12the establishment of men centers
and men studies -
3:12 - 3:16to think about how do we engage men
in their experiences in the university. -
3:16 - 3:19If you talk to faculty,
they may say, "Ugh. Yeah, well, -
3:19 - 3:20they're playing video games,
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3:21 - 3:23and they're gambling
online all night long, -
3:24 - 3:25and they're playing World of Warcraft,
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3:25 - 3:29and that's affecting
their academic achievement." -
3:30 - 3:32Guess what?
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3:32 - 3:34Video games are not the cause.
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3:34 - 3:36Video games are a symptom.
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3:36 - 3:41They were turned off a long time
before they got here. -
3:41 - 3:44So let's talk about
why they got turned off -
3:44 - 3:47when they were between the ages
of three and 13. -
3:47 - 3:49There are three reasons that I believe
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3:49 - 3:52that boys are out of sync
with the culture of schools today. -
3:53 - 3:55The first is zero tolerance.
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3:55 - 4:00A kindergarten teacher I know,
her son donated all of his toys to her, -
4:00 - 4:06and when he did, she had to go through
and pull out all the little plastic guns. -
4:07 - 4:09You can't have plastic knives
and swords and axes -
4:10 - 4:13and all that kind of thing
in a kindergarten classroom. -
4:13 - 4:17What is it that we're afraid that this
young man is going to do with this gun? -
4:17 - 4:18I mean, really.
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4:19 - 4:21But here he stands as testament
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4:21 - 4:24to the fact that you can't roughhouse
on the playground today. -
4:24 - 4:26Now I'm not advocating for bullies.
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4:26 - 4:32I'm not suggesting that we need to be
allowing guns and knives in the school. -
4:32 - 4:36But when we say that an Eagle Scout
in a high school classroom -
4:36 - 4:39who has a locked parked car
in the parking lot and a penknife in it, -
4:39 - 4:41has to be suspended from school,
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4:41 - 4:45I think we may have gone
a little too far with zero tolerance. -
4:45 - 4:47Another way that zero tolerance
lives itself out -
4:47 - 4:48is in the writing of boys.
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4:48 - 4:50In a lot of classrooms today,
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4:50 - 4:52you're not allowed to write
about anything that's violent. -
4:52 - 4:56You're not allowed to write about anything
that has to do with video games. -
4:56 - 4:57These topics are banned.
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4:57 - 4:59Boy comes home from school, and he says,
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4:59 - 5:01"I hate writing."
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5:01 - 5:03"Why do you hate writing, son?
What's wrong with writing?" -
5:03 - 5:06"Now I have to write
what she tells me to write." -
5:06 - 5:08"OK, what is she telling you to write?"
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5:08 - 5:10"Poems. I have to write poems.
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5:10 - 5:12And little moments in my life.
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5:13 - 5:14I don't want to write that stuff."
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5:15 - 5:17"Well, what do you want to write?
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5:17 - 5:18What do you want to write about?"
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5:18 - 5:21"I want to write about video games.
I want to write about leveling-up. -
5:21 - 5:24I want to write about
this really interesting world. -
5:24 - 5:27I want to write about a tornado
that comes into our house -
5:27 - 5:28and blows all the windows out,
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5:28 - 5:31and ruins all the furniture
and kills everybody." -
5:31 - 5:32"All right. OK."
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5:32 - 5:36You tell a teacher that,
and they'll ask you, in all seriousness, -
5:36 - 5:39"Should we send this child
to the psychologist?" -
5:40 - 5:42And the answer is no, he's just a boy.
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5:43 - 5:44He's just a little boy.
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5:45 - 5:49It's not OK to write these kinds of things
in classrooms today. -
5:50 - 5:51So that's the first reason:
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5:51 - 5:54Zero tolerance policies
and the way they're lived out. -
5:54 - 5:57The next reason that boys' cultures
are out of sync with school cultures: -
5:57 - 5:59there are fewer male teachers.
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5:59 - 6:01Anybody who's over 15
doesn't know what this means, -
6:01 - 6:03because in the last 10 years,
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6:03 - 6:07the number of elementary school
classroom teachers has been cut in half. -
6:07 - 6:10We went from 14 percent to seven percent.
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6:11 - 6:13That means that 93 percent of the teachers
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6:13 - 6:16that our young men get in elementary
classrooms are women. -
6:17 - 6:19Now what's the problem with this?
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6:20 - 6:22Women are great, yep, absolutely.
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6:22 - 6:27But male role models for boys
that say it's all right to be smart -- -
6:27 - 6:30they've got dads, they've got pastors,
they've got Cub Scout leaders, -
6:30 - 6:34but ultimately, six hours a day,
five days a week -
6:34 - 6:36they're spending in a classroom,
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6:36 - 6:39and most of those classrooms
are not places where men exist. -
6:39 - 6:43And so they say, I guess this really
isn't a place for boys. -
6:43 - 6:45This is a place for girls.
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6:45 - 6:46And I'm not very good at this,
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6:46 - 6:50so I guess I'd better go play video games
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6:50 - 6:52or get into sports,
or something like that, -
6:52 - 6:54because I obviously don't belong here.
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6:54 - 6:56Men don't belong here,
that's pretty obvious. -
6:56 - 7:00So that may be a very direct way
that we see it happen. -
7:00 - 7:04But less directly, the lack of male
presence in the culture -- -
7:04 - 7:08you've got a teachers' lounge,
and they're having a conversation -
7:08 - 7:12about Joey and Johnny
who beat each other up on the playground. -
7:12 - 7:14"What are we going to do with these boys?"
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7:14 - 7:16The answer to that question changes
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7:16 - 7:18depending on who's sitting
around that table. -
7:18 - 7:19Are there men around that table?
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7:19 - 7:22Are there moms who've raised boys
around that table? -
7:22 - 7:24You'll see, the conversation changes
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7:24 - 7:26depending upon who's sitting
around the table. -
7:26 - 7:29Third reason that boys
are out of sync with school today: -
7:29 - 7:31Kindergarten is the old
second grade, folks. -
7:31 - 7:35We have a serious compression
of the curriculum happening out there. -
7:35 - 7:38When you're three, you better be able
to write your name legibly, -
7:38 - 7:41or else we'll consider it
a developmental delay. -
7:41 - 7:43By the time you're in first grade,
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7:43 - 7:46you should be able to read
paragraphs of text -
7:46 - 7:49with maybe a picture, maybe not,
in a book of maybe 25 to 30 pages. -
7:49 - 7:50If you don't,
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7:50 - 7:54we're probably going to be putting you
into a Title I special reading program. -
7:54 - 7:56And if you ask Title I teachers,
they'll tell you -
7:57 - 8:00they've got about four or five boys
for every girl that's in their program, -
8:00 - 8:01in the elementary grades.
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8:01 - 8:03The reason that this is a problem
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8:03 - 8:06is because the message
that boys are getting -
8:06 - 8:11is, "You need to do what the teacher
asks you to do all the time." -
8:11 - 8:15The teacher's salary depends
on "No Child Left Behind" -
8:15 - 8:18and "Race to the Top"
and accountability and testing -
8:18 - 8:20and all of this.
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8:20 - 8:24So she has to figure out a way
to get all these boys -
8:24 - 8:27through this curriculum -- and girls.
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8:28 - 8:31This compressed curriculum is bad
for all active kids. -
8:32 - 8:34And what happens is,
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8:34 - 8:39she says, "Please, sit down,
be quiet, do what you're told, -
8:39 - 8:44follow the rules, manage your time,
focus, be a girl." -
8:45 - 8:47That's what she tells them.
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8:47 - 8:49Indirectly, that's what she tells them.
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8:49 - 8:51And so this is a very serious problem.
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8:51 - 8:53Where is it coming from?
It's coming from us. -
8:53 - 8:56(Laughter)
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8:57 - 9:00We want our babies to read
when they are six months old. -
9:00 - 9:01Have you seen the ads?
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9:01 - 9:06We want to live in Lake Wobegon
where every child is above average ... -
9:06 - 9:10but what this does to our children
is really not healthy. -
9:10 - 9:12It's not developmentally appropriate,
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9:12 - 9:14and it's particularly bad for boys.
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9:14 - 9:15So what do we do?
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9:16 - 9:18We need to meet them where they are.
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9:18 - 9:20We need to put ourselves into boy culture.
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9:20 - 9:25We need to change the mindset
of acceptance in boys -
9:25 - 9:27in elementary schools.
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9:27 - 9:30More specifically, we can do
some very specific things. -
9:30 - 9:32We can design better games.
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9:32 - 9:35Most of the educational games
that are out there today -
9:35 - 9:36are really flashcards.
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9:36 - 9:38They're glorified drill and practice.
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9:38 - 9:41They don't have the depth,
the rich narrative -
9:41 - 9:44that really engaging video games have,
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9:44 - 9:46that the boys are really interested in.
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9:46 - 9:48So we need to design better games.
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9:48 - 9:51We need to talk to teachers and parents
and school board members and politicians. -
9:52 - 9:55We need to make sure that people see
that we need more men in the classroom. -
9:55 - 9:58We need to look carefully
at our zero tolerance policies. -
9:58 - 9:59Do they make sense?
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9:59 - 10:03We need to think about how to uncompress
this curriculum if we can, -
10:03 - 10:06trying to bring boys back into a space
that is comfortable for them. -
10:07 - 10:09All of those conversations
need to be happening. -
10:09 - 10:12There are some great examples
out there of schools -- -
10:12 - 10:16the New York Times
just talked about a school recently. -
10:16 - 10:18A game designer from the New School
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10:18 - 10:21put together a wonderful
video gaming school. -
10:21 - 10:26But it only treats a few kids,
and so this isn't very scalable. -
10:26 - 10:28We have to change the culture
and the feelings -
10:28 - 10:33that politicians and school board
members and parents have -
10:33 - 10:36about the way we accept
and what we accept in our schools today. -
10:36 - 10:38We need to find more money
for game design. -
10:38 - 10:41Because good games,
really good games, cost money, -
10:41 - 10:43and World of Warcraft has quite a budget.
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10:43 - 10:45Most of the educational games do not.
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10:45 - 10:46Where we started:
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10:46 - 10:49my colleagues Mike Petner,
Shawn Vashaw, myself, -
10:49 - 10:52we started by trying to look
at the teachers' attitudes -
10:52 - 10:54and find out how do they really
feel about gaming, -
10:54 - 10:55what do they say about it.
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10:55 - 11:00And we discovered that they talk
about the kids in their school, -
11:00 - 11:03who talk about gaming,
in pretty demeaning ways. -
11:04 - 11:07They say, "Oh, yeah. They're always
talking about that stuff. -
11:07 - 11:09They're talking
about their little action figures -
11:09 - 11:11and their little achievements
or merit badges, -
11:12 - 11:14or whatever it is that they get.
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11:14 - 11:16And they're always talking
about this stuff." -
11:16 - 11:18And they say these things as if it's OK.
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11:18 - 11:21But if it were your culture,
think of how that might feel. -
11:21 - 11:23It's very uncomfortable
to be on the receiving end -
11:23 - 11:26of that kind of language.
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11:26 - 11:29They're nervous about anything
that has anything to do with violence -
11:29 - 11:31because of the zero tolerance policies.
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11:31 - 11:33They are sure that parents
and administrators -
11:33 - 11:35will never accept anything.
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11:35 - 11:37So we really need to think
about looking at teacher attitudes -
11:37 - 11:40and finding ways to change the attitudes,
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11:40 - 11:44so that teachers are much more open
and accepting of boy cultures -
11:44 - 11:45in their classrooms.
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11:45 - 11:48Because, ultimately, if we don't,
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11:48 - 11:51then we're going to have boys
who leave elementary school saying, -
11:51 - 11:54"Well I guess that was just
a place for girls, it wasn't for me. -
11:54 - 11:57So I've got to do gaming,
or I've got to do sports." -
11:57 - 12:00If we change these things,
if we pay attention to these things, -
12:00 - 12:02and we reengage boys in their learning,
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12:02 - 12:05they will leave the elementary
schools saying, "I'm smart." -
12:06 - 12:07Thank you.
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12:07 - 12:10(Applause)
- Title:
- Gaming to re-engage boys in learning
- Speaker:
- Ali Carr-Chellman
- Description:
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At TEDxPSU, Ali Carr-Chellman pinpoints three reasons boys are tuning out of school in droves, and lays out her bold plan to re-engage them: bringing their culture into the classroom, with new rules that let boys be boys, and video games that teach as well as entertain.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 12:09
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The English transcript was updated on 11/23/2016.