What do we do when antibiotics don’t work any more?
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0:01 - 0:03This is my great uncle,
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0:03 - 0:06my father's father's younger brother.
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0:06 - 0:08His name was Joe McKenna.
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0:08 - 0:13He was a young husband
and a semi-pro basketball player -
0:13 - 0:16and a fireman in New York City.
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0:17 - 0:20Family history says
he loved being a fireman, -
0:20 - 0:24and so in 1938, on one of his days off,
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0:24 - 0:26he elected to hang out at the firehouse.
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0:27 - 0:31To make himself useful that day,
he started polishing all the brass, -
0:31 - 0:35the railings on the fire truck,
the fittings on the walls, -
0:35 - 0:37and one of the fire hose nozzles,
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0:37 - 0:39a giant, heavy piece of metal,
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0:39 - 0:43toppled off a shelf and hit him.
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0:44 - 0:47A few days later,
his shoulder started to hurt. -
0:47 - 0:51Two days after that, he spiked a fever.
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0:51 - 0:53The fever climbed and climbed.
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0:53 - 0:55His wife was taking care of him,
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0:55 - 0:59but nothing she did made a difference,
and when they got the local doctor in, -
0:59 - 1:02nothing he did mattered either.
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1:02 - 1:05They flagged down a cab
and took him to the hospital. -
1:06 - 1:10The nurses there recognized right away
that he had an infection, -
1:10 - 1:14what at the time they would
have called "blood poisoning," -
1:14 - 1:16and though they probably didn't say it,
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1:16 - 1:18they would have known right away
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1:18 - 1:21that there was nothing they could do.
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1:22 - 1:25There was nothing they could do
because the things we use now -
1:25 - 1:27to cure infections didn't exist yet.
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1:28 - 1:31The first test of penicillin,
the first antibiotic, -
1:31 - 1:34was three years in the future.
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1:34 - 1:39People who got infections
either recovered, if they were lucky, -
1:39 - 1:40or they died.
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1:40 - 1:42My great uncle was not lucky.
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1:42 - 1:46He was in the hospital for a week,
shaking with chills, -
1:46 - 1:48dehydrated and delirious,
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1:48 - 1:50sinking into a coma as his organs failed.
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1:50 - 1:53His condition grew so desperate
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1:53 - 1:57that the people from his firehouse
lined up to give him transfusions -
1:57 - 2:01hoping to dilute the infection
surging through his blood. -
2:01 - 2:05Nothing worked. He died.
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2:05 - 2:08He was 30 years old.
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2:08 - 2:10If you look back through history,
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2:10 - 2:13most people died the way
my great uncle died. -
2:13 - 2:16Most people didn't die
of cancer or heart disease, -
2:16 - 2:20the lifestyle diseases that afflict us
in the West today. -
2:20 - 2:24They didn't die of those diseases
because they didn't live long enough -
2:24 - 2:26to develop them.
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2:26 - 2:28They died of injuries --
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2:28 - 2:31being gored by an ox,
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2:31 - 2:33shot on a battlefield,
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2:33 - 2:36crushed in one of the new factories
of the Industrial Revolution -- -
2:36 - 2:40and most of the time from infection,
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2:40 - 2:43which finished what those injuries began.
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2:44 - 2:48All of that changed
when antibiotics arrived. -
2:49 - 2:52Suddenly, infections that had
been a death sentence -
2:52 - 2:56became something
you recovered from in days. -
2:56 - 2:59It seemed like a miracle,
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2:59 - 3:05and ever since, we have been living inside
the golden epoch of the miracle drugs. -
3:05 - 3:09And now, we are coming to an end of it.
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3:09 - 3:14My great uncle died in the last days
of the pre-antibiotic era. -
3:14 - 3:19We stand today on the threshold
of the post-antibiotic era, -
3:19 - 3:23in the earliest days of a time
when simple infections -
3:23 - 3:28such as the one Joe had
will kill people once again. -
3:29 - 3:32In fact, they already are.
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3:33 - 3:36People are dying of infections again
because of a phenomenon -
3:36 - 3:38called antibiotic resistance.
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3:38 - 3:40Briefly, it works like this.
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3:40 - 3:45Bacteria compete against each other
for resources, for food, -
3:45 - 3:50by manufacturing lethal compounds
that they direct against each other. -
3:50 - 3:52Other bacteria, to protect themselves,
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3:52 - 3:55evolve defenses against
that chemical attack. -
3:55 - 3:58When we first made antibiotics,
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3:58 - 4:02we took those compounds into the lab
and made our own versions of them, -
4:02 - 4:06and bacteria responded to our attack
the way they always had. -
4:08 - 4:10Here is what happened next:
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4:10 - 4:13Penicillin was distributed in 1943,
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4:13 - 4:19and widespread penicillin resistance
arrived by 1945. -
4:19 - 4:22Vancomycin arrived in 1972,
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4:22 - 4:25vancomycin resistance in 1988.
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4:25 - 4:27Imipenem in 1985,
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4:27 - 4:30and resistance to in 1998.
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4:30 - 4:34Daptomycin, one of
the most recent drugs, in 2003, -
4:34 - 4:38and resistance to it
just a year later in 2004. -
4:39 - 4:42For 70 years, we played
a game of leapfrog -- -
4:42 - 4:45our drug and their resistance,
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4:45 - 4:49and then another drug,
and then resistance again -- -
4:49 - 4:51and now the game is ending.
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4:51 - 4:55Bacteria develop resistance so quickly
that pharmaceutical companies -
4:55 - 5:00have decided making antibiotics
is not in their best interest, -
5:00 - 5:03so there are infections
moving across the world -
5:03 - 5:06for which, out of the more
than 100 antibiotics -
5:06 - 5:08available on the market,
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5:08 - 5:12two drugs might work with side effects,
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5:12 - 5:14or one drug,
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5:14 - 5:16or none.
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5:16 - 5:18This is what that looks like.
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5:18 - 5:22In 2000, the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention, the CDC, -
5:22 - 5:25identified a single case
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5:25 - 5:27in a hospital in North Carolina
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5:27 - 5:30of an infection resistant
to all but two drugs. -
5:31 - 5:35Today, that infection, known as KPC,
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5:35 - 5:38has spread to every state but three,
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5:38 - 5:40and to South America, Europe
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5:40 - 5:42and the Middle East.
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5:43 - 5:45In 2008, doctors in Sweden
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5:45 - 5:48diagnosed a man from India
with a different infection -
5:48 - 5:52resistant to all but one drug that time.
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5:52 - 5:54The gene that creates that resistance,
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5:54 - 6:00known as NDM, has now spread
from India into China, Asia, Africa, -
6:00 - 6:05Europe and Canada, and the United States.
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6:05 - 6:08It would be natural to hope
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6:08 - 6:11that these infections
are extraordinary cases, -
6:11 - 6:13but in fact,
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6:13 - 6:16in the United States and Europe,
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6:16 - 6:1850,000 people a year
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6:18 - 6:22die of infections which no drugs can help.
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6:23 - 6:26A project chartered
by the British government -
6:26 - 6:30known as the Review
on Antimicrobial Resistance -
6:30 - 6:37estimates that the worldwide toll
right now is 700,000 deaths a year. -
6:38 - 6:43That is a lot of deaths,
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6:43 - 6:46and yet, the chances are good
that you don't feel at risk, -
6:46 - 6:49that you imagine these people
were hospital patients -
6:49 - 6:51in intensive care units
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6:51 - 6:55or nursing home residents
near the ends of their lives, -
6:55 - 6:58people whose infections
are remote from us, -
6:58 - 7:01in situations we can't identify with.
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7:02 - 7:06What you didn't think about,
none of us do, -
7:06 - 7:11is that antibiotics support
almost all of modern life. -
7:12 - 7:14If we lost antibiotics,
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7:14 - 7:15here's what else we'd lose:
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7:16 - 7:20First, any protection for people
with weakened immune systems -- -
7:20 - 7:23cancer patients, AIDS patients,
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7:23 - 7:28transplant recipients, premature babies.
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7:28 - 7:32Next, any treatment that installs
foreign objects in the body: -
7:32 - 7:36stents for stroke, pumps for diabetes,
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7:36 - 7:40dialysis, joint replacements.
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7:40 - 7:44How many athletic baby boomers
need new hips and knees? -
7:44 - 7:47A recent study estimates
that without antibiotics, -
7:47 - 7:50one out of ever six would die.
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7:51 - 7:54Next, we'd probably lose surgery.
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7:54 - 7:56Many operations are preceded
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7:56 - 7:59by prophylactic doses of antibiotics.
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7:59 - 8:01Without that protection,
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8:01 - 8:05we'd lose the ability to open
the hidden spaces of the body. -
8:05 - 8:08So no heart operations,
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8:08 - 8:11no prostate biopsies,
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8:11 - 8:13no Cesarean sections.
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8:14 - 8:18We'd have to learn to fear infections
that now seem minor. -
8:19 - 8:23Strep throat used to cause heart failure.
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8:23 - 8:25Skin infections led to amputations.
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8:26 - 8:29Giving birth killed,
in the cleanest hospitals, -
8:29 - 8:31almost one woman out of every 100.
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8:32 - 8:37Pneumonia took three children
out of every 10. -
8:37 - 8:39More than anything else,
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8:39 - 8:44we'd lose the confident way
we live our everyday lives. -
8:45 - 8:49If you knew that any injury
could kill you, -
8:49 - 8:52would you ride a motorcycle,
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8:52 - 8:56bomb down a ski slope,
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8:56 - 8:59climb a ladder to hang
your Christmas lights, -
8:59 - 9:03let your kid slide into home plate?
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9:04 - 9:07After all, the first person
to receive penicillin, -
9:07 - 9:11a British policeman named
Albert Alexander, -
9:11 - 9:15who was so ravaged by infection
that his scalp oozed pus -
9:15 - 9:18and doctors had to take out an eye,
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9:18 - 9:21was infected by doing
something very simple. -
9:22 - 9:27He walked into his garden
and scratched his face on a thorn. -
9:29 - 9:32That British project I mentioned
which estimates that the worldwide toll -
9:32 - 9:36right now is 700,000 deaths a year
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9:36 - 9:43also predicts that if we can't
get this under control by 2050, -
9:43 - 9:50not long, the worldwide toll
will be 10 million deaths a year. -
9:50 - 9:53How did we get to this point
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9:53 - 9:55where what we have to look forward to
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9:55 - 9:58is those terrifying numbers?
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9:58 - 10:03The difficult answer is,
we did it to ourselves. -
10:03 - 10:06Resistance is an inevitable
biological process, -
10:06 - 10:10but we bear the responsibility
for accelerating it. -
10:10 - 10:14We did this by squandering antibiotics
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10:14 - 10:18with a heedlessness
that now seems shocking. -
10:19 - 10:23Penicillin was sold
over the counter until the 1950s. -
10:23 - 10:27In much of the developing world,
most antibiotics still are. -
10:27 - 10:31In the United States, 50 percent
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10:31 - 10:35of the antibiotics given
in hospitals are unnecessary. -
10:35 - 10:39Forty-five percent of the prescriptions
written in doctor's offices -
10:39 - 10:43are for conditions
that antibiotics cannot help. -
10:45 - 10:47And that's just in healthcare.
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10:47 - 10:52On much of the planet, most meat animals
get antibiotics every day of their lives, -
10:52 - 10:54not to cure illnesses,
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10:54 - 10:58but to fatten them up
and to protect them against -
10:58 - 11:02the factory farm conditions
they are raised in. -
11:02 - 11:05In the United States, possibly 80 percent
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11:05 - 11:12of the antibiotics sold every year
go to farm animals, not to humans, -
11:12 - 11:15creating resistant bacteria
that move off the farm -
11:15 - 11:18in water, in dust,
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11:18 - 11:21in the meat the animals become.
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11:21 - 11:24Aquaculture depends on antibiotics too,
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11:24 - 11:26particularly in Asia,
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11:26 - 11:29and fruit growing relies on antibiotics
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11:29 - 11:34to protect apples, pears,
citrus, against disease. -
11:34 - 11:40And because bacteria can pass
their DNA to each other -
11:40 - 11:45like a traveler handing off
a suitcase at an airport, -
11:45 - 11:49once we have encouraged
that resistance into existence, -
11:49 - 11:52there is no knowing where it will spread.
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11:54 - 11:55This was predictable.
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11:56 - 11:59In fact, it was predicted
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11:59 - 12:03by Alexander Fleming,
the man who discovered penicillin. -
12:03 - 12:07He was given the Nobel Prize
in 1945 in recognition, -
12:07 - 12:11and in an interview shortly after,
this is what he said: -
12:11 - 12:16"The thoughtless person playing
with penicillin treatment -
12:16 - 12:19is morally responsible
for the death of a man -
12:19 - 12:21who succumbs to infection
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12:21 - 12:24with a pencillin-resistant organism."
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12:24 - 12:28He added, "I hope this evil
can be averted." -
12:29 - 12:32Can we avert it?
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12:32 - 12:36There are companies working
on novel antibiotics, -
12:36 - 12:39things the superbugs
have never seen before. -
12:39 - 12:42We need those new drugs badly,
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12:42 - 12:44and we need incentives:
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12:44 - 12:47discovery grants, extended patents,
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12:47 - 12:53prizes, to lure other companies
into making antibiotics again. -
12:53 - 12:56But that probably won't be enough.
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12:56 - 13:00Here's why: Evolution always wins.
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13:01 - 13:05Bacteria birth a new generation
every 20 minutes. -
13:05 - 13:09It takes pharmaceutical chemistry
10 years to derive a new drug. -
13:09 - 13:12Every time we use an antibiotic,
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13:12 - 13:16we give the bacteria billions of chances
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13:16 - 13:17to crack the codes
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13:17 - 13:20of the defenses we've constructed.
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13:20 - 13:23There has never yet been a drug
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13:23 - 13:25they could not defeat.
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13:25 - 13:29This is asymmetric warfare,
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13:29 - 13:33but we can change the outcome.
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13:34 - 13:40We could build systems to harvest data
to tell us automatically and specifically -
13:40 - 13:43how antibiotics are being used.
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13:43 - 13:46We could build gatekeeping
into drug order systems -
13:46 - 13:50so that every prescription
gets a second look. -
13:50 - 13:56We could require agriculture
to give up antibiotic use. -
13:56 - 13:59We could build surveillance systems
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13:59 - 14:04to tell us where resistance
is emerging next. -
14:04 - 14:06Those are the tech solutions.
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14:06 - 14:09They probably aren't enough either,
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14:09 - 14:12unless we help.
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14:16 - 14:18Antibiotic resistance is a habit.
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14:18 - 14:22We all know how hard it is
to change a habit. -
14:22 - 14:26But as a society,
we've done that in the past. -
14:26 - 14:30People used to toss litter
into the streets, -
14:30 - 14:32used to not wear seatbelts,
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14:32 - 14:36used to smoke inside public buildings.
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14:36 - 14:39We don't do those things anymore.
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14:39 - 14:41We don't trash the environment
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14:41 - 14:45or court devastating accidents
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14:45 - 14:48or expose others
to the possibility of cancer, -
14:48 - 14:51because we decided those things
were expensive, -
14:51 - 14:55destructive, not in our best interest.
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14:56 - 14:59We changed social norms.
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14:59 - 15:03We could change social norms
around antibiotic use too. -
15:05 - 15:08I know that the scale
of antibiotic resistance -
15:08 - 15:10seems overwhelming,
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15:10 - 15:13but if you've ever bought
a fluorescent lightbulb -
15:13 - 15:16because you were concerned
about climate change, -
15:16 - 15:19or read the label on a box of crackers
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15:19 - 15:23because you think about
the deforestation from palm oil, -
15:23 - 15:26you already know what it feels like
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15:26 - 15:31to take a tiny step to address
an overwhelming problem. -
15:32 - 15:36We could take those kinds of steps
for antibiotic use too. -
15:36 - 15:44We could forgo giving an antibiotic
if we're not sure it's the right one. -
15:44 - 15:51We could stop insisting on a prescription
for our kid's ear infection -
15:51 - 15:52before we're sure what caused it.
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15:54 - 15:57We could ask every restaurant,
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15:57 - 15:59every supermarket,
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15:59 - 16:00where their meat comes from.
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16:01 - 16:03We could promise each other
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16:03 - 16:07never again to buy chicken
or shrimp or fruit -
16:07 - 16:10raised with routine antibiotic use,
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16:10 - 16:12and if we did those things,
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16:12 - 16:17we could slow down the arrival
of the post-antibiotic world. -
16:18 - 16:22But we have to do it soon.
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16:22 - 16:26Penicillin began
the antibiotic era in 1943. -
16:26 - 16:32In just 70 years, we walked ourselves
up to the edge of disaster. -
16:32 - 16:35We won't get 70 years
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16:35 - 16:38to find our way back out again.
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16:39 - 16:40Thank you very much.
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16:41 - 16:47(Applause)
- Title:
- What do we do when antibiotics don’t work any more?
- Speaker:
- Maryn McKenna
- Description:
-
Penicillin changed everything. Infections that had previously killed were suddenly quickly curable. Yet as Maryn McKenna shares in this sobering talk, we've squandered the advantages afforded us by that and later antibiotics. Drug-resistant bacteria mean we're entering a post-antibiotic world — and it won't be pretty. There are, however, things we can do ... if we start right now.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 16:59
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