How to fix our broken criminal justice system | Robert Barton | TEDxSanQuentin
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0:08 - 0:10Good morning!
I am happy to be here today. -
0:10 - 0:13Most people have no idea
what an Inspector General does, -
0:13 - 0:15and that's OK.
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0:15 - 0:18Usually I get mistaken for
the Attorney General, -
0:18 - 0:21and I explain, in California,
we don't look anything alike. -
0:21 - 0:23(Laughter)
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0:25 - 0:26But as the Inspector General,
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0:26 - 0:31part of my job is overseeing programs
within the Department of Corrections. -
0:31 - 0:34I had a unique path
in getting to this place. -
0:34 - 0:39I started my career in criminal justice
33 years ago as an officer, -
0:39 - 0:42worked as an officer
in basically every capacity -
0:42 - 0:45before going to law school
and becoming a prosecutor. -
0:45 - 0:50And for 17 years, as a Deputy District
Attorney in a very conservative county, -
0:50 - 0:53I was instrumental
in a lot of people going to prison. -
0:54 - 0:57But I didn't have to be real smart
to figure out, after a while, -
0:57 - 1:00when I was prosecuting
the same person who went to prison, -
1:00 - 1:05got out, reoffended,
went to prison, got out, reoffended, -
1:05 - 1:09that our system was broke,
and I was part of that broken system. -
1:10 - 1:15So when I had an opportunity in 2005
to join the Inspector General's office, -
1:15 - 1:18and actually have an impact on Corrections
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1:19 - 1:22and have an impact on perhaps
changing what was going on, -
1:22 - 1:24I took that opportunity.
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1:24 - 1:28And four years ago, I was appointed
to become the Inspector General. -
1:28 - 1:30So now I'm in a place
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1:30 - 1:34where it would be easy
to see the failures, -
1:34 - 1:38and it would be easy for those of us
in the system to get frustrated. -
1:38 - 1:41But I am inspired by someone
we celebrated this week: -
1:41 - 1:43Martin Luther King.
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1:43 - 1:45And when he was asked about
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1:45 - 1:49all the frustrations that he suffered,
all the suffering itself, -
1:49 - 1:53he said, "You can either choose
to turn that into bitterness, -
1:54 - 1:55or you can take that suffering
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1:55 - 1:59and turn it into a creative force
for positive change." -
2:00 - 2:04And I'd like to think that most of us
in the system want to do that. -
2:04 - 2:06And we've heard story after story today
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2:06 - 2:08about people doing that.
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2:08 - 2:12And so that's what I want to talk
to you about today: transformation. -
2:13 - 2:18A lot of times, we hear words,
and we think we know what they mean, -
2:18 - 2:23but sometimes, it takes examples
for us to realize their true meaning. -
2:23 - 2:26Transformation
in the criminal justice system -
2:26 - 2:28can't just take place with the offenders.
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2:29 - 2:32We are hearing great stories today
about people transforming themselves. -
2:32 - 2:37But it's also got to be those of us
in the system and society at large. -
2:37 - 2:39And I'm encouraged that it's happening.
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2:39 - 2:42Many of you in this room
are a part of it happening. -
2:42 - 2:43And that's encouraging.
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2:43 - 2:45But we need to continue it,
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2:45 - 2:48because transformation
doesn't happen overnight; -
2:48 - 2:50it's a process.
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2:50 - 2:51The definition is actually,
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2:51 - 2:53"To undergo a change
or conversion in the use, -
2:53 - 2:55function, purpose, or nature of being."
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2:55 - 2:59And we need to change
the way we use our prisons, -
2:59 - 3:01the way we have our prisons function
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3:01 - 3:06so that people come out better
when they leave and not worse. -
3:06 - 3:09I would be the first one tell you that ...
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3:10 - 3:13it'd be naive to think
that that will work for every one. -
3:13 - 3:17But there are certainly
a lot of people out there -
3:17 - 3:18that it can work for.
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3:18 - 3:21And it is a public safety issue,
we've heard from other speakers. -
3:23 - 3:25So, what I ask people to do
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3:25 - 3:29when we talk about
the criminal justice system -
3:29 - 3:34is realize that we've been doing
the same thing over and over again -
3:34 - 3:37the same way,
and expecting different results. -
3:37 - 3:39(Laughter)
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3:39 - 3:40(Audience) That's insanity.
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3:40 - 3:42That is insanity.
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3:42 - 3:46And I am tired of
being part of an insane process. -
3:47 - 3:49I want to see a change.
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3:50 - 3:52In order for that to happen however,
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3:52 - 3:55we need to realize
what the four goals currently are, -
3:55 - 3:58and the emphasis that's placed
on them by our system. -
3:58 - 4:03I teach criminal justice or had
for ten years at the college level, -
4:03 - 4:06and today, unfortunately,
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4:06 - 4:09the purpose of criminal justice
is in this order: -
4:09 - 4:13punishment, incapacitation
deterrence, and rehabilitation. -
4:13 - 4:16And unfortunately,
we as a society emphasize it that way, -
4:16 - 4:18but that is so short sighted;
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4:18 - 4:21and believe me, I've talked
to hundreds of offenders, -
4:21 - 4:25hundreds of victims,
hundreds of people in law enforcement, -
4:25 - 4:28and all of us will tell you
that it's short sighted. -
4:28 - 4:30Punishment, as we've heard already,
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4:30 - 4:36is something that is never
going to be a long lasting solution. -
4:36 - 4:39Yes, there have to be
consequences for crime, -
4:39 - 4:42yes, punishment should meet the crime,
but people should be allowed to change. -
4:42 - 4:47And if they do - and as we heard
earlier, pay that debt to society - -
4:47 - 4:49should be accepted back into society.
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4:51 - 4:54So, punishment alone can't be the answer.
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4:54 - 4:57There has to be rehabilitation
that goes along with it. -
4:57 - 5:00And quiet frankly, if deterrence worked,
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5:01 - 5:03we wouldn't have people in prison.
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5:04 - 5:06You know, I've never talked
to an offender yet, who said, -
5:06 - 5:09"I thought through
all the consequences of my actions -
5:09 - 5:11before I committed my criminal act."
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5:11 - 5:12(Laughter)
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5:12 - 5:16Are there that small percentage
that we heard - some of them today - -
5:16 - 5:19the day they walked into prison
said, "I never want to come back."? -
5:19 - 5:21Sure, but it's not that easy,
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5:21 - 5:23because transformation is a process.
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5:25 - 5:28The opportunities
have to outweigh the obstacles. -
5:28 - 5:31And that third goal of incarceration -
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5:31 - 5:38the goal being incapacitation -
is actually a fallacy. -
5:38 - 5:41Yes, we get people off
the streets for a time being, -
5:41 - 5:44but as we've heard, over 90%
will get out on the streets again. -
5:45 - 5:46And it's a fallacy also
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5:46 - 5:49because, if someone is
really criminally minded, -
5:49 - 5:52and I know there are men
in this room will agree with this, -
5:52 - 5:53all your doing
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5:53 - 5:56is changing their victim population
when you put them in prison. -
5:56 - 5:58They victimize other inmates, staff,
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5:58 - 6:00and if they have
connections to the outside, -
6:00 - 6:02they continue their criminal ways.
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6:02 - 6:06So incapacitation isn't working either.
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6:06 - 6:10So if punishment isn't
the answer in and of itself, -
6:10 - 6:14if deterrence doesn't work,
and incapacitation is shortsighted, -
6:14 - 6:16that leaves us with rehabilitation.
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6:16 - 6:18And that's really the only thing
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6:18 - 6:23that, if we can make it real,
will have the longest lasting benefit -
6:23 - 6:25to society at large.
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6:25 - 6:26So what does that take?
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6:26 - 6:27Well, I've already told you
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6:27 - 6:31that the opportunities
have to outweigh the obstacles, -
6:31 - 6:33and it's a process.
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6:33 - 6:35And we've heard
a lot of good stories today, -
6:35 - 6:38and I want to tell you another one
about a young man named Miguel. -
6:38 - 6:41And Miguel would be the first one
to tell you that he was a hustler, -
6:41 - 6:43as we heard described earlier.
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6:43 - 6:45He went through his youth
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6:45 - 6:50selling drugs, being involved in gangs,
and ultimately, ending up in prison. -
6:50 - 6:52And even when he got to prison
he was a hustler, -
6:52 - 6:54but not in a good way of an entrepreneur,
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6:54 - 6:57he continued to try to figure out
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6:57 - 7:00ways to smuggle things in,
and con the staff, and so on. -
7:00 - 7:03And he actually got himself
put in fire camp -
7:03 - 7:07not because he wanted to learn
how to be a fireman -
7:07 - 7:10but because he thought
that would be a better way -
7:10 - 7:12to smuggle in tobacco and sell it.
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7:13 - 7:17And when he got to fire camp
though, something happened. -
7:17 - 7:19He went through the training,
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7:19 - 7:23he went through the building
of the Esprit de Corps -
7:23 - 7:25with his fellow crew members
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7:25 - 7:29because they are carrying heavy machinery,
and you're three inches from a saw blade, -
7:29 - 7:32and you have to trust
that guy next to you. -
7:32 - 7:34And they were sent to a fire
in Southern California -
7:34 - 7:36in the Poway area.
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7:36 - 7:38And they were told,
"You have to build this fire break -
7:38 - 7:42because this small subdivision is at risk,
the blaze is coming towards it. -
7:42 - 7:43We have evacuated the houses."
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7:43 - 7:47And they spent 20 hours
on a fire line creating a break. -
7:47 - 7:48And that night the fire approached,
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7:48 - 7:52and they watched as the break
held it back, and it receded. -
7:52 - 7:55They spent the rest of the day
mopping up the hot spots. -
7:56 - 7:57And then, the next morning,
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7:57 - 7:59as they were walking out
down this two-lane road -
7:59 - 8:03where law enforcement was escorting
the evacuees back to their houses, -
8:03 - 8:04something happened.
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8:04 - 8:09Cars stopped, families got out,
and they started applauding. -
8:10 - 8:17And Miguel found himself crying,
and at first, he couldn't understand it. -
8:17 - 8:21But you see, that was his moment,
where he turned the lights on. -
8:21 - 8:25That was the time
when something in him said, -
8:25 - 8:27"I can be more than what I am now."
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8:27 - 8:30And we've heard
those stories all day long. -
8:30 - 8:32Because transformation is a process.
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8:32 - 8:35It starts however, with the person,
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8:35 - 8:39taking personal responsibility
and deciding to change. -
8:39 - 8:41Once they've done that,
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8:41 - 8:44what happens when you turn
on your light switch at home -
8:44 - 8:45and you don't have a lightbulb?
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8:45 - 8:48Nothing, it's dark.
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8:48 - 8:51So there has to be a conduit
for that force, -
8:51 - 8:54there has to be somewhere
for that positive energy to go. -
8:54 - 8:56Well, what he did
is he went back to fire camp, -
8:56 - 8:59and all those other inmates
that he called suckers -
8:59 - 9:04for wasting their free time
on things like education and programs, -
9:04 - 9:05he got involved with.
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9:05 - 9:07That was his lightbulb,
that was his conduit -
9:07 - 9:09for his positive energy.
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9:09 - 9:12And so, once he had that conduit,
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9:12 - 9:15he started doing something
he never thought he'd do. -
9:15 - 9:18And that was reaching out
to his family on the outside -
9:18 - 9:23whom he had burned all bridges with
re-establishing those relationships. -
9:23 - 9:27And pretty soon, guess what?
He was going to be paroled. -
9:27 - 9:33And he told me that he got scared
because, "Will society accept me? -
9:33 - 9:37Will they believe that I've transformed?
What am I going to do when I get out?" -
9:38 - 9:43Because transformation is a process,
it doesn't happen overnight. -
9:43 - 9:48You've got to have that inspiration
to change, to turn that power on. -
9:48 - 9:51You've got to have a conduit
for that positive power. -
9:51 - 9:55And I want to say we're getting there;
we're nowhere close to where we could be: -
9:55 - 10:00for every person that's in a program,
there are 50 on a waiting list. -
10:00 - 10:01But we are getting there.
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10:01 - 10:04And we are moving in that direction,
and that's positive. -
10:04 - 10:06We need to have more lightbulbs out there,
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10:06 - 10:10more conduits for
that positive change to happen. -
10:12 - 10:17And then he got paroled,
and what he said happened was ... -
10:17 - 10:20It was a particular individual -
and we've heard this story today too - -
10:20 - 10:23that believed in him,
that when he started to falter -
10:23 - 10:27because there will be times
when people falter. -
10:28 - 10:31What happens when a storm
rages to your lights? -
10:31 - 10:34They flicker, sometimes they go out.
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10:35 - 10:36And then who's there?
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10:36 - 10:39PG&E hopefully,
or whoever your utility company is -
10:39 - 10:42to turn them back on for you, right?
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10:42 - 10:44Well, we as a society,
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10:44 - 10:47and the families that are out there,
and the people out there -
10:47 - 10:51have to be able to
be willing to see folks, -
10:51 - 10:54maybe stumble, but still succeed.
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10:54 - 10:58Because otherwise, we have a system
which we've had for years, -
10:58 - 11:01where we think our job
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11:01 - 11:03is trying to figure out
how to lock people back up -
11:03 - 11:06instead of how
to keep them out successfully. -
11:06 - 11:08And that has to change
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11:08 - 11:13because the opportunities
have to outweigh the obstacles. -
11:13 - 11:16And so, those of us in the system
that believe this -
11:16 - 11:18are trying to make that happen.
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11:18 - 11:21And I know that there are
people in the system -
11:21 - 11:25that are trying
to make it happen for themselves. -
11:25 - 11:28So Miguel got out,
and he is successful now. -
11:28 - 11:31Because he was able to turn on that light.
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11:31 - 11:34He was able to have a way
to build on it, that positive energy. -
11:34 - 11:41And he has a way to continue,
to have the utilities working, -
11:41 - 11:47and have the utility bill payed
so that it continues to happen. -
11:47 - 11:50Because what happens, again,
if you turn on your lights -
11:50 - 11:53and you have lightbulbs,
but the utilities aren't there? -
11:53 - 11:55Your lights go off.
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11:55 - 11:58So transformation is a process,
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11:58 - 12:02the opportunities have
to outweigh the obstacles. -
12:03 - 12:05And I want to leave you with something
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12:05 - 12:07that I'm hoping will resonate
with all of us. -
12:07 - 12:09And it's an example of transformation.
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12:09 - 12:12It's a classic story of a person
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12:12 - 12:16whose life had more obstacles
than opportunities, -
12:17 - 12:22who wasn't accepted by society,
who turned to criminal ways, -
12:22 - 12:28but it took one moment, one realization -
and in this case, a little girl - -
12:29 - 12:31to have this person change.
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12:31 - 12:36And even more so, it took a society
that was willing to accept him -
12:36 - 12:38after he went through transformation.
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12:38 - 12:40I think you'll all recognize this.
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12:40 - 12:42(Video starts) ("The Grinch" show clip)
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12:42 - 12:44(Laughter)
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12:45 - 12:50And the Grinch's small heart
grew three sizes that day, -
12:52 - 12:57and then, the true meaning
of Christmas came through, -
12:57 - 13:01and the Grinch found the strength
of ten bridges, plus two. -
13:01 - 13:03(Video ends)
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13:04 - 13:05(Laughter)
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13:05 - 13:06If the Grinch ...
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13:06 - 13:08(Applause)
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13:10 - 13:13if the Grinch can experience
transformation, -
13:13 - 13:14there's hope for all of us.
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13:14 - 13:16Thank you.
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13:16 - 13:17(Applause)
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After having worked with hundreds of prisoners, victims of crimes, and correctional officers and administrators, California's Inspector General has a pretty good idea of what's broken and why in our prison system. Listen to his talk to learn what we all must do in order to fix these system and improve public safety.
Robert Barton currently serves as California's Inspector General and is responsible for oversight of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, including critical incidents, internal affairs, complaints, medical care, use of force, and other legislatively requested reviews. He chairs the California Rehabilitation Oversight Board reporting and making recommendations on rehabilitative programs for inmates and parolees. He began his public service with the Fresno Sheriff's Department in 1984, while completing his B.S. in criminology at CSU- Fresno. He graduated from UC Davis King Hall, with his JD in 1988. He then served as a prosecutor in the Kern County District Attorney’s Office and from 2000-2005 supervised the gang, prison crime, juvenile and truancy units. He was then appointed as a Supervising Assistant Inspector General in 2005, before being appointed in 2011 as the Inspector General. He holds a lifetime Community College instructor credential in law.
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