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They're like, oh, she's
like, she has good faith.
-
She's got a good job. And she's smart.
-
She's very sweet. Yeah.
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[Jason] What about the looks?
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- Oh I never asked about
that, I just don't want to be
-
set up by my parents.
-
- Well you can at least ask..
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- Oh ah.. I just feel like..
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Like "do you have a picture?"
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- I don't ask for the picture.
-
- Really?
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- I just don't want to
be set up by my parents dude.
-
- What if she was a dime ?
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- [John] Oh~
-
- Welcome back to another
episode and welcome back, Jason,
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- [Jason] Yo. What up.
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[John] He's back.. he's back.
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Lost my sense of peace at home.
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- [Jason] No you didn't.
-
- laughing
-
- So what were you doing in Korea?
-
- It's been three years since
-
I've been to Korea and I have not seen
-
my family for that time, so
I was just there relaxing,
-
catching up and getting
bombarded with questions about
-
getting married and stuff like that.
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- [John] Which is the topic of this video.
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- [Jason] That's right
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- [John] Not marriage, but,
-
but dating differences
in Korea versus USA.
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So you spent three months in Korea,
-
you were home in rural part
of Korea. Where were you?
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- [Jason] I was in Yangpyeong,
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which is like an hour east of Seoul,
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- [John] It looks really peaceful.
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- [Jason] Yeah yeah it's farmland.
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People are raising
chickens and like corn.
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I actually picked up some .. like..
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Peppers (gochu?) from my
neighbor's yard, cause it's
-
[john] oh nice (laughing)
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Because it's just hanging out, you know?
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- [John] Oh, wow. I'm
gonna tell your neighbor.
-
All right. So you were there for
-
a month and I'm sure they
were happy to see you,
-
catch up over the last three years.
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Celebrate your recent accomplishment,
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graduating your PhD,
-
and then the serious talk:
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'You dating anybody?'
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'What are- You trying to marry?'
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And how much of that pressure
actually affected you?
-
uhhh
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- A lot.
-
- (laughing)
-
It's like one of the
pinnacles of a person's life,
-
especially at my age.
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- [John] All right. Fair.
-
I think that's any parents
concern and I think
-
they have a right to be concerned.
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It's coming from a good place because
-
they want you to do well at school,
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they want you to have stability
in your job and then they
-
want you to find someone who's
going to be there with you.
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- [Jason] Yeah. How about you?
-
Do you feel any pressures
from your parents?
-
(clears throat)
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- [John] Some of that was alleviated,
-
because my brother got married recently.
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- [Jason] Oh nice.
-
- [John] So thank you
Eric. Thank you Meewon.
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Actually many siblings can relate.
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Yeah. If one of your siblings goes, yeah.
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Then-
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- [Jason] Then there's a less
pressure on the other one.
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- [John] I don't feel
like, a negative pressure,
-
It's just, they're very curious.
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- [Jason] Yeah
-
- [John] but they don't wanna,
-
they don't wanna annoy me either.
-
I mean they're not
annoying me by asking me.
-
- [Jason] Yeah.
-
- [John] But they're asking
me like "do you need help?
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Do you want me to set you up with
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church friend? Always asking
me about church friends.
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And I would prefer to
meet somebody on my own,
-
but they're like, oh, she's
like, she has good faith.
-
She's got a good job. And she's smart.
-
She's very sweet. Yeah.
-
- So.. uh..
-
[Jason] What about the looks?
-
- Oh I never asked about
that, I just don't want to be
-
set up by my parents.
-
- [Jason] Well you can at least ask..
-
- Oh ah.. I just feel like..
-
Like "do you have a picture?"
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- [John] I don't ask for the picture.
-
- [Jason] Really?
-
- [John] I just don't want to
be set up by my parents dude.
-
- [Jason] What if she was a dime ?
-
- [John] Oh, wait a minute.
-
- What if all of these years
your parents were setting
-
you up for like.. Miss Korea.
-
- [John] Are you guys-
are you guys okay with
-
getting set up by your parents?
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- [Jason] As long as it's an option,
-
It's not something forced.
-
It's okay.
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- [John] Okay. Fair, fair.
-
Maybe I was being too close minded about it.
Yeah. yeah.
-
- [Jason] Their ideas of who
you should be dating versus
-
your ideas of who you want to
be dating is very different.
-
- [John] That's true. But
I never get it a chance.
-
So perhaps I'm being unfair.
-
Mom if you're watching this, I'm sorry.
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- Laughing -
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- [Jason] Mom, I'm sorry too.
-
- (beep)
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- [Jason] Well tell me-
-
where are you right now?
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- [John] Well, they know that
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I'm focusing on my
career, so it's not like,
-
- I think it'd be different if I were just
-
partying all the time
-
- [Jason] Well, I mean,
you could still, like,
-
you can be serious about your
career while dating someone.
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- [John] Oh, of course
they want me to.. yeah.
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To find someone.
-
I mean, my dad was married by
the time that he was my age.
-
- [Jason] Yeah.
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- [John] They have different notions.
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- [Jason] Same with my dad.
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And it was considered late.
-Right.
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- [John] That's crazy.
-
- [Jason] Yeah.
-
- [John] I think, I think
they've realized that
-
there is a generational difference.
-
But anyway, that's enough about me.
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- [Jason] Well, what
is- It's just like, not,
-
not just about you, but it's like,
-
the perspective of a guy
living in New York City.
-
It's like, I should be living the fullest
-
of my bachelorhood in my,
especially my thirties.
-
And that's generally
expected and accepted.
-
It's "cool" to be a bachelor.
-
It's cool to like meet different people.
-
Whereas I feel like in
Korea, it's like oh,
-
you're kind of a not-serious person.
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- [John] Right, right.
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- [Jason] And you don't have a project-
-
projectile in life.
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- [John] Trajectory.
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- [Jason] You don't have
a trajectory in life.
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- [John] Projectile vomit.
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You don't have a- blah.
-
- Laughing -
-
- (beep)
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- [John] I also think we're really,
-
we're lucky to be here. New York City,
-
it's just super forgiving in that way.
-
- [Jason] Yeah.
-
- [John] You can focus on
your career until you're 40,
-
and no one is going to blink- bat an eye,
-
because So what? You do you
-mmhmm!
-
and that's a huge difference.
-
- [Jason] For sure.
-
- [John] Korea, versus if
we're going back to the Korea vs USA?
-
you celebrate individualism here-
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- [Jason] Yeah.
-
Cool. He's 40.
-
Even if he's 45 and divorced and
still looking for love
-
- [Jason] He's doing his own thing
-
So what? he's happy.
-
Let him do this thing
-
Why do you bother him?
Yeah Yeah.
-
Whereas in Korea it's like, dang.
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- [Jason] or just in Asian culture, in general.
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It's like "fulfill your duty."
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- [John] Right
-
You have an "obligation."
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- [Jason] Yeah.
-
And one of them being is to
get married and have kids
-
and then create a family of your own
-
and then have this like, very like.
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- [John] But in many ways, in many ways,
-
America celebrates that too.
-
So I don't think it's difference.
-
- [Jason] It celebrates the
individuality first. Right?
-
Cause it's like you do, you,
you do whatever pleases You
-
whereas, in Asian cultures
it's Like, oh, this is the way.
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- [John] Mmm that is true.
-
Because I did have a perfectly normal,
-
older friend. We call him
my a 'hyung' in Korea.
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Single dude, extremely successful.
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- [Jason] Yeah.
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- [John] Works out.
-mmhmm
-
And, and he was saying,
it's hard now, 40 year old.
-
He's like, 'dude, I'm 40.
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He's like John - he's like,
-
if I could give you advice as
a hyung, don't do what I did.
-
- [Jason] Yeah.
-
- [John] It made me really
sad to hear that because
-
this is like my friend going
on dates as a 40 something year old dude
-
in Korea. He's like, it's tough.
-
There's a stigma.
Yeah, for sure.
-
- [Jason] Yeah. No doubt.
-
- [John] So he said
that he doesn't regret,
-
but it's like - mm maybe he
should've thought about it
-
and planned it a little bit better.
-
- [Jason] Yeah.
-
- [John] Whereas here,
I think it's still okay.
-
- [Jason] All right. Let's take a break.
-
I have some snacks for
you. are you hungry?
-
I am
-
You like you like nuts?
-
I love nuts.
-
Good news. I have so many
different types of nuts for you.
-
I was born for this, bro.
-
- ASMR
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[John] Wow, is this cotton candy or something?
-
[Jason] You know those.. umm.. crackling candies?
-
They put that
-
Pop Rocks!
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[Jason] On nuts...
-
- [John] Well, I got
something for you too, dude
-
- [Jason] what is it?
-
- [John] explosion sound effect
-
Because you're aging and you
need to get married soon.
-
One of the best Korean face
products, or skin products
-
- [Jason] Hera is actually
-
one of my favorite Korean brands.
-
- [John] So Jason. Where can
we find these Korean products?
-
- [Jason] So these are from Platform.K
-
which is a Korean-based shopping mall
-
that sells famous Korean brands
-
at the lowest prices in the US.
-
- [John] The website is
unique in that it features
-
for a length of time.
-
- [Jason] Yeah.
-
- [John] Really HOT deals
on a specific category.
-
Sometimes the time deals
can be up to 70% off,
-
You can get a sweet deal on a product
-
- [Jason] Huge discount.
Whereas like you go on Amazon,
-
you're gonna pay a premium.
-
Right now they're going
to have special offers on
-
healthcare products, such as InBody,
-
which is a scanner - sort
of measuring your body
-
composition.
-
- [Jason] My favorite part is
that is that they,
-
they recommend you the
hottest items in Korea at the
-
moment. So you're not just getting like,
-
a second hand thing
started from last season.
-
- [John] Like you said,
some of the hottest items,
-
celebrity endorsed, you
see then in some dramas.
-
- [John] So not only will
you save on the Time Deal,
-
If you use our coupon, you
can get additional 5% off.
-
- [Jason] And then when
you order over $50,
-
you get free shipping.
-
- [John] One thing I will mention,
-
this site is in Korean. But don't worry,
-
They have a customer support center,
-
and a chat for English users.
-
- [Jason] All right guys,
check out Platform.K,
-
And now back to the program.
-
- [John] So we automatically
jumped to like marriage
-
and like family,
-
but there's also like, dating rituals,
-
or like dating customs
that are different in Korea
-
versus America.
-mmhmm
-
I feel like I learned this the hard way,
-
Cause , you know,
-
I didn't,
-
I didn't know that I had
to celebrate 100일 (100th)
-
day anniversary.
-
Or even like couple attire
or like 애칭 (etching),
-
they call it etching. Right?
-
What's etching?
Like calling like saving (on phone) for example-
-
like calling your girlfriend
by a certain nickname.
-
- [Jason] Oh yeah, yeah.
-
- [John] So there are
certain little things,
-
like cute things-
-
jagiya (boo~)
-
Right you see it in kdramas
-
- [John] Stop.
-
I'm gonna throw up.
-
Please- save it for somebody else.
-
Ae-Gi Yah (Baby ~)
-
No stop
-
Idk is it taken seriously
though? Among 30 year olds.
-
Maybe they don't care. Maybe
it's more like a teenager thing
-
- [Jason] Well, I think
there's like a universal
-
sort of cultural mindset about dating
-
that the age is- age doesn't matter.
-
- [John] No. I'm talking
about the rituals.
-
- [Jason] Yeah. The rituals.
-
It doesn't matter how old you are.
-
- [John] But in Korea they have 100 day
-
200 day..
-
you have to have like couple
rings - some of them..
-
Wear couple rings
-
- Oh yeah. I guess when you're younger,
-
those are taking more seriously.
-
- [john] Oh only when you're younger?
-
- [Jason] Yeah yeah.
-
- [John] You don't think that like 30 year olds do that?
-
- [Jason] Well, I can't
personally speak because
-
I haven't been really like, been with someone
-
for a hundred days in Korea.
-
Okay okay fair.
-
yeah
-
Alright
-
Are there any, can you
think of anything else?
-
That's like, you gotta do it in Korea,
-
but you don't have to do
it here
-
or vice versa.
-
- [Jason] I think something that Koreans
-
take more seriously. It's like making,
-
having an official title
to your relationship,
-
at a very early stage of a relationship.
-
- [John] mmm
-
- [John] Mm I could see that
-
- [Jason] Yeah. whereas
here like casual dating,
-
it's pretty common.
-
You might see someone for a month or more
-
- [John] true.
-
- [Jason] Without having
an official title.
-
- [John] Wait but Korea has, you know, 썸 (sseom)
-
- [Jason] But, but you know their sseom
-
their definition of sseom and definition of
-
sseom here it's different where the sseom is.
-
Like you're getting to know
each other, like personally,
-
but without actually having sort of a- skinship.
-
- [John] Oh, that's another thing.-
-
- [Jason] Yeah.
-
But I don't know if this is a
stereotype or generalization rather
-
skinship, which is actually
not an English word.
-
skinship is physical touch.
-
-yeah
-
Is that looked down upon
before you're dating in Korea?
-
I wouldn't say it's looked down upon,
-
but I feel like in
Asian culture, in Korea,
-
people kind of want to have official.
-
- [John] Is that still the case though?
-
- [Jason] Well, not as much,
-
but it's still like statistically I think.
-
- [John] Ah. Like hookups
are more common here?
-
- [Jason] Oh, for sure dude. well,
-
based on what statistic?
maybe we don't know..
-
[John] There are actually some
viral tik toks of people
-
visitors (in Korea) kinda
observing people in public.
-
And the number of people
in pairs was like,
-
astonishing to them,
-
because here you can see
people walk around by themselves
-
and they're it seemed like at least like,
-
along the river
-
Like Hangang (famous, scenic river in Seoul).
-yeah
-
- [John] You see couples, or like in parks
-
it's always people sitting in pairs.
-
So there's certainly a cultural norm..