Fossil fuel companies know how to stop global warming. Why don't they?
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0:01 - 0:02So here's a thought.
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0:02 - 0:07The fossil fuel industry
knows how to stop causing global warming, -
0:07 - 0:10but they're waiting
for somebody else to pay, -
0:10 - 0:12and no one is calling them out on it.
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0:12 - 0:16I was one of the authors
of the 2018 IPCC report -
0:16 - 0:18on 1.5 degrees Celsius.
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0:18 - 0:20And after the report was published,
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0:20 - 0:24I gave a lot of talks, including one
to a meeting of young engineers -
0:24 - 0:27of one of the world's major
oil and gas companies. -
0:27 - 0:30And at the end of the talk,
I got the inevitable question, -
0:30 - 0:33"Do you personally believe
there's any chance -
0:33 - 0:36of us limiting global
warming to 1.5 degrees?" -
0:37 - 0:39IPCC reports are not really
about personal opinions, -
0:39 - 0:42so I turned the question around and said,
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0:42 - 0:46"Well, if you had to fully
decarbonize your product, -
0:47 - 0:52that is, dispose safely and permanently
of one ton of carbon dioxide -
0:52 - 0:56for every ton generated
by the oil and gas you sell, -
0:56 - 0:59by 2050, which is what it would take,
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0:59 - 1:01would you be able to do so?"
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1:01 - 1:04"Would the same rules
apply to everybody?" somebody asked, -
1:04 - 1:07meaning, of course, their competition.
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1:07 - 1:09I said, "OK, yeah, maybe they would."
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1:09 - 1:12Now, the management
just looked at their shoes; -
1:12 - 1:14they didn't want to answer the question.
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1:14 - 1:16But the young engineers
just shrugged and said, -
1:16 - 1:19"Yes, of course we would,
like it's even a question." -
1:19 - 1:21So I want to talk to you
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1:21 - 1:24about what those young
engineers know how to do: -
1:24 - 1:26decarbonize fossil fuels.
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1:27 - 1:29Not decarbonize the economy,
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1:29 - 1:32or even decarbonize their own company,
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1:32 - 1:35but decarbonize the fuels themselves,
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1:35 - 1:36and this matters
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1:36 - 1:40because it turns out to be essential
to stopping global warming. -
1:41 - 1:45At a global level, climate change
turns out to be surprisingly simple: -
1:45 - 1:46To stop global warming
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1:46 - 1:49we need to stop dumping carbon
dioxide into the atmosphere. -
1:49 - 1:53And since about 85 percent
of the carbon dioxide we currently emit -
1:53 - 1:55comes from fossil fuels and industry,
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1:55 - 1:59we need to stop fossil fuels
from causing further global warming. -
2:00 - 2:01So how do we do that?
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2:02 - 2:05Well, it turns out
there's really only two options. -
2:05 - 2:10The first option is,
in effect, to ban fossil fuels. -
2:10 - 2:13That's what "absolute zero" means.
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2:13 - 2:17No one allowed to extract,
sell, or use fossil fuels -
2:17 - 2:21anywhere in the world
on pain of a massive fine. -
2:22 - 2:25If that sounds unlikely,
it's because it is. -
2:26 - 2:29And even if a global ban were possible,
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2:29 - 2:33do you or I in wealthy countries in 2020
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2:33 - 2:35have any right to tell the citizens
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2:35 - 2:38of poor and emerging
economies in the 2060s -
2:38 - 2:41not to touch their fossil fuels?
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2:41 - 2:44Some people argue
that if we work hard enough -
2:44 - 2:48we can drive down the cost
of renewable energy so far -
2:48 - 2:51that we won't need to ban fossil fuels,
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2:51 - 2:54the people will stop using them
of their own accord. -
2:55 - 2:58This kind of thinking
is dangerously optimistic. -
2:58 - 3:02For one thing, renewable energy costs
might not go down as fast as they hope. -
3:02 - 3:03I mean, remember,
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3:03 - 3:08nuclear energy was meant to be
too cheap to meter in the 1970s, -
3:08 - 3:10but even more importantly,
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3:10 - 3:13we've no idea how low
fossil fuel prices might fall -
3:13 - 3:15in response to that competition.
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3:16 - 3:19There are so many uses of fossil carbon,
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3:19 - 3:22from aviation fuel to cement production,
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3:22 - 3:28it's not enough for carbon-free
alternatives to outcompete the big ones, -
3:28 - 3:32to stop fossil fuels
from causing further global warming, -
3:32 - 3:35carbon-free alternatives
would need to outcompete them all. -
3:36 - 3:40So the only real alternative to stop
fossil fuels causing global warming -
3:40 - 3:42is to decarbonize them.
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3:42 - 3:43I know that sounds odd,
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3:43 - 3:46decarbonize fossil fuels.
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3:46 - 3:48What it means is,
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3:48 - 3:53one ton of carbon dioxide has to be safely
and permanently disposed of -
3:53 - 3:58for every ton generated
by the continued use of fossil fuels. -
3:58 - 4:00Now, consumers can't do this,
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4:00 - 4:04so the responsibility
has to lie with the companies -
4:04 - 4:07that are producing and selling
the fossil fuels themselves. -
4:08 - 4:10Their engineers know how to do it.
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4:10 - 4:12In fact, they've known for decades.
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4:12 - 4:17The simplest option is to capture
the carbon dioxide as it's generated -
4:17 - 4:22from the chimney of a power station,
or blast furnace, or refinery. -
4:22 - 4:28You purify it, compress it,
and re-inject it back underground. -
4:28 - 4:31If you inject it deep enough
and into the right rock formations, -
4:31 - 4:34it stays there, just like
the hydrocarbons it came from. -
4:35 - 4:38To stop further global warming,
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4:38 - 4:43permanent storage has to mean
tens of thousands of years at least, -
4:43 - 4:47which is why trying to mop up
our fossil carbon emissions -
4:47 - 4:50by planting trees can help,
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4:50 - 4:53but it can only be a temporary stopgap.
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4:53 - 4:57For some applications
like aviation fuel, for example, -
4:57 - 5:00we can't capture
the carbon dioxide at source, -
5:00 - 5:04so we have to recapture it,
take it back out of the atmosphere. -
5:05 - 5:07That can be done;
there's companies already doing it, -
5:07 - 5:09but it's more expensive.
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5:09 - 5:12And this points to the single
most important reason -
5:12 - 5:16why recapturing and safe disposal
of carbon dioxide -
5:16 - 5:18is not already standard practice:
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5:18 - 5:20cost.
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5:20 - 5:24It's infinitely cheaper just to dump
carbon dioxide into the atmosphere -
5:24 - 5:29than it is to capture it
and dispose of it safely back underground. -
5:29 - 5:30But the good news is,
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5:30 - 5:34we don't need to dispose of 100 percent
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5:34 - 5:38of the carbon dioxide we generate
from burning fossil fuels right away. -
5:38 - 5:42Economists talk about
cost-effective pathways, -
5:42 - 5:44by which they mean
ways of achieving a result -
5:44 - 5:47without unfairly dumping
too much of the cost -
5:47 - 5:48onto the next generation.
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5:49 - 5:51And a cost-effective pathway,
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5:51 - 5:54which gets us to
decarbonizing fossil fuels, -
5:54 - 5:58100 percent carbon capture
and storage by 2050, -
5:58 - 6:01which is what net-zero means,
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6:01 - 6:06takes us through 10 percent
carbon capture in 2030, -
6:06 - 6:0850 percent in 2040,
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6:08 - 6:10100 percent in 2050.
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6:11 - 6:12To put that in context,
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6:12 - 6:17we are currently capturing
and storing less than 0.1 percent. -
6:17 - 6:19So don't get me wrong,
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6:19 - 6:22decarbonizing fossil fuels
is not going to be easy. -
6:22 - 6:27It's going to mean building
a carbon dioxide disposal industry -
6:27 - 6:31comparable in size
to today's oil and gas industry. -
6:31 - 6:34The only entities in the world
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6:34 - 6:37that have the engineering capability
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6:37 - 6:39and the deep pockets to do this
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6:39 - 6:43are the companies that produce
the fossil fuels themselves. -
6:44 - 6:49We can all help by slowing
down our use of fossil carbon -
6:49 - 6:52to buy them time to decarbonize it,
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6:52 - 6:54but they still have to get on with it.
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6:54 - 6:56Now, adding the cost
of carbon dioxide disposal -
6:56 - 6:59will make fossil fuel-based
products more expensive, -
6:59 - 7:03and a 10 percent storage requirement
by 2030, for example, -
7:03 - 7:06might add a few pence
to the cost of a liter of petrol. -
7:07 - 7:09But, unlike a tax,
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7:09 - 7:14that money is clearly being spent
on solving the problem, -
7:14 - 7:16and of course, consumers will respond,
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7:16 - 7:19perhaps by switching
to electric cars, for example, -
7:19 - 7:22but they won't need to be told to do so.
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7:22 - 7:28And crucially, if developing countries
agreed to use fossil fuels -
7:28 - 7:31that have been progressively
decarbonized in this way, -
7:31 - 7:36then they never need accept limits
on the absolute amount that they consume, -
7:36 - 7:40which they fear
might constrain their growth. -
7:40 - 7:42Over the past couple of years,
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7:42 - 7:44more and more people have been talking
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7:44 - 7:46about the importance
of carbon dioxide disposal. -
7:47 - 7:49But they're still talking about it
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7:49 - 7:53as if it's to be paid for
by philanthropy or tax breaks. -
7:54 - 7:58But why should foundations
or the taxpayer pay to clean up -
7:58 - 8:00after a still-profitable industry?
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8:01 - 8:04No. We can decarbonize fossil fuels.
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8:05 - 8:07And if we do decarbonize fossil fuels,
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8:07 - 8:10as well as getting things like
deforestation under control, -
8:10 - 8:12we will stop global warming.
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8:12 - 8:14And if we don't, we won't.
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8:14 - 8:16It's as simple as that.
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8:16 - 8:19But it's going to take a movement
to make this happen. -
8:19 - 8:21So how can you help?
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8:21 - 8:23Well, it depends on who you are.
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8:23 - 8:27If you work or invest
in the fossil fuel industry, -
8:27 - 8:32don't walk away from the problem
by selling off your fossil fuel assets -
8:32 - 8:35to someone else
who cares less than you do. -
8:35 - 8:37You own this problem.
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8:37 - 8:38You need to fix it.
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8:39 - 8:43Decarbonizing your portfolio
helps no one but your conscience. -
8:43 - 8:47You must decarbonize your product.
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8:48 - 8:50If you're a politician or a civil servant,
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8:50 - 8:53you need to look at your favorite
climate policy and ask: -
8:53 - 8:57How is it helping
to decarbonize fossil fuels? -
8:57 - 8:59How is it helping to increase the fraction
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8:59 - 9:02of carbon dioxide
we generate from fossil fuels -
9:02 - 9:06that is safely and
permanently disposed of? -
9:06 - 9:10If it isn't, then it may be
helping to slow global warming, -
9:10 - 9:12which is useful,
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9:12 - 9:16but unless you believe in that ban,
it isn't going to stop it. -
9:17 - 9:20Finally, if you're an environmentalist,
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9:20 - 9:24you probably find the idea
of the fossil fuel industry itself -
9:24 - 9:29playing such a central role in solving
the climate change problem disturbing. -
9:29 - 9:32"Won't those carbon
dioxide reservoirs leak?" -
9:32 - 9:33you'll worry,
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9:33 - 9:36"Or won't some in the industry cheat?"
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9:37 - 9:41Over the coming decades,
there probably will be leaks, -
9:41 - 9:42and there may be cheats,
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9:42 - 9:45but those leaks and those cheats
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9:45 - 9:48will make decarbonizing
fossil fuels harder, -
9:48 - 9:51they don't make it optional.
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9:51 - 9:56Global warming won't wait
for the fossil fuel industry to die. -
9:57 - 9:59And just calling for it to die
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9:59 - 10:03is letting it off the hook
from solving its own problem. -
10:04 - 10:07In these divided times,
we need to look for help -
10:08 - 10:12and maybe even friends
in unexpected places. -
10:12 - 10:15It's time to call on
the fossil fuel industry -
10:15 - 10:19to help solve the problem
their product has created. -
10:19 - 10:21Their engineers know how,
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10:21 - 10:25we just need to get the management
to look up from their shoes. -
10:26 - 10:27Thank you.
- Title:
- Fossil fuel companies know how to stop global warming. Why don't they?
- Speaker:
- Myles Allen
- Description:
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The fossil fuel industry knows how to stop global warming, but they're waiting for someone else to pay, says climate science scholar Myles Allen. Instead of a total ban on carbon-emitting fuels, Allen puts forth a bold plan for oil and gas companies to progressively decarbonize themselves and sequester CO2 deep in the earth, with the aim of reaching net-zero emissions by 2050 and creating a carbon dioxide disposal industry that works for everyone.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 10:29
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