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    [inaudible] and I
    have an effort called WikiLoop,
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    and this is what I'm going
    to introduce to you about.
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    We have presented WikiLoop, the idea,
    to several Wikimedia related conferences.
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    How many of you have heard
    about WikiLoop before?
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    Thanks.
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    And how many of you have interacted
    with the datasets and toolings
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    that we provided before?
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    Okay, fairly new.
    So this will be mostly an introduction.
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    So we would like to tell you
    why we start this initiative
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    and what it intends to do,
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    and how you can get involved
    or what it will go for.
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    So, to begin with,
    we would like to give you an example.
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    This is a vandalism
    that happened in Italian...
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    that happened in Italy Wikipedia.
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    I know that most people here
    are interested in Wikidata.
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    I will tell you why this is relevant too.
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    So basically what we found is
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    that someone vandalized
    Wikipedia on Italian
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    and says, "Bezos who cannot afford a car."
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    And this is an interesting question,
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    if you think about it,
    this is blatant obvious vandalism
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    but when it comes to machines
    and algorithms
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    which find to detect vandalism
    and avoid serving users the information,
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    how can computer understand
    this kind of information,
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    like it would be...
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    we realize that sometimes
    there are limitations
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    of how far algorithms can go
    and machine can go.
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    Another example here is let's say,
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    there is a word or label,
    or a category on Wikipedia says,
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    someone, a person,
    is a Christian scientist.
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    Now, given this label,
    what facts do you come up with
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    like what would you infer
    from this category?
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    Do you think it would be a "Christian"
    or do you think it would be a "scientist"?
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    In this specific case--
    it does not apply everywhere--
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    but it this specific case,
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    there is a religion
    called "Christian Science,"
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    and people who hold that belief
    is called "Christian Scientist."
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    And, again, for machines,
    how can we know, like
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    even if many people here are big [fan]
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    that's the better we make our data
    a knowledge machine-friendly
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    the easier we can work and improve
    the overall knowledge accessibility
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    and contribute together
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    but there is always things
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    that we believe
    that machine has restrictions.
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    So all in all, we start to realize
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    that coming from Internet companies
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    who have a strong belief
    of our technology
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    and what machine can do,
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    there is always a gap
    or there is always something
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    that we would need to rely on human being
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    and more, we would need
    to rely on communities
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    who are actively contributing,
    who are doing the peer reviews to our...
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    collaborating with each other.
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    So this is a picture
    about the background effort of WikiLoop.
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    For the human being,
    they have the knowledge,
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    we have our domain expertize
    and we can crosscheck each other
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    but we just have that enough time.
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    And there are many things
    that machine can empower this
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    but there is restrictions there.
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    So the goal is to empower
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    or improve the productivity
    of human editors.
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    But also the other side of the formula
    is we want to loop that back
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    to the research and the academic efforts
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    that improve how machine
    can help in these cases.
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    So by raise of hand,
    how many of you have used Google?
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    Thank you.
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    And how many of you
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    think that companies like Google
    and other big knowledge companies
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    should contribute more
    to the knowledge world?
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    So what happens is that...
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    we all know that our mission at Google
    or other similar companies--
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    we have a strong background
    of leveraging the open knowledge world,
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    like for Google specific case
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    it's like organize
    the world's information.
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    So we help disseminate the information,
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    which in one sense that helps
    the mission of this movement.
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    But only every once a while
    we have sporadic help
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    trying to donate knowledge
    and datasets, and tools,
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    and we want to see
    if we can make this sustainable,
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    both in the technical sense
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    and also in the business sense.
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    So this is like
    a one-sentence introduction.
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    We want WikiLoop
    to become an umbrella program
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    for a series of technical projects
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    intended to contribute
    datasets and toolings
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    and hopefully make this a community effort
    with participation of
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    other likeminded people,
    partners and institutions
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    to join with this effort.
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    There are several projects
    that we think would be a good fit,
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    and these are the criteria.
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    First of all, the idea is
    that it needs to be source improvements
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    or source improvements
    by and large is a good fit,
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    and also the second thing
    that companies like us
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    really cannot do very well by ourself
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    is to maximize the neutrality,
    to avoid picking sides
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    on the controversies,
    decisions or discussions
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    and another thing is that to make this
    in the long-term sustainability
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    and to keep it
    being supported by this industry.
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    We want to see
    the productivity, the scalability
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    of our contribution and efforts.
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    To explain a little bit more...
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    We always look trying to extract...
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    for example, we are trying
    to extract facts from Wikipedia.
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    And while we can do
    several separations,
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    we're labeling, fairly well,
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    up to certain point
    the bottleneck is no longer
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    how good the machine,
    the algorithm can reach
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    but sometimes
    there is a noise in the source,
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    and if we do not remove the source
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    or minimize the source noise there,
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    that's how far the machine can go.
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    So that's the first criteria.
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    And the second criteria is,
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    we don't want to get to be seen as buyers
    or introduce potential buyers.
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    We want to rely on
    governance that is peer reviewed
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    and that is done by the community
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    so that we can avoid picking sides
    in the controversy questions.
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    And the third thing
    which probably not so intuitive
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    but this is the kind of...
    I would like...
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    Let me give you an example
    of the projects we have in mind.
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    Let's say there are smaller,
    minority language there.
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    I have heard a very good talk
    earlier this morning.
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    But one idea we have here is,
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    let's say you are a minority
    language contributor, very active,
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    and you want to advocate for your culture
    and supporting your knowledge creation.
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    But because companies like Google
    or other consumer company,
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    they have a bar
    for releasing a translation,
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    to make it available.
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    They want the precision to be high enough
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    so that they can use it to serve users.
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    But maybe internally they have AI modules
    that are experimenting,
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    not good enough to the bar
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    because lack of training data,
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    so the translation is not available.
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    But the community is doing
    the translation by hand anyway.
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    Now, one of the things we are thinking of,
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    if we can provide
    some of this experimental thing
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    that is not good enough
    to serve general user purpose
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    but still good for the community
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    and somewhat improving the productivity,
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    it would be able to
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    one, improve the speed of how well
    a community can contribute,
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    and second, what a community is creating
    anyway can come back as a training data
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    that keeps bootstrapping the machines.
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    So over time by this effort
    we hope to generate a model
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    that both helps
    the human being, the editors,
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    but also helps the research
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    that improves the AI and other approaches.
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    And this is a big overview
    of a few projects
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    we are going to introduce.
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    Due to the time limitation
    I will feature a few.
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    The WikiLoop Game, which you can look up,
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    is one that we leveraged a platform
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    created by Magnus called Wikidata Game.
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    We provide several datasets there
    to be played, to be introduced
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    and commit to the Wikidata
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    but by the human review.
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    And Google doesn't get
    to contribute data directly
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    to Wikipedia or Wikidata
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    but having someone who is reviewing it
    as non-biased individuals to do so.
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    And the second one I'm going to feature
    is WikiLoop Battlefield,
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    the one that you have seen just now
    as a counter-vandalism platform,
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    and this one also features
    the same criteria
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    of source improvements,
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    of how it can empower machines
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    by looping back to the training data
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    and also how it avoids companies like us
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    to pick sides allowing way to rely
    on the community's assessment.
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    And the third one is CitePool,
    which is creating...
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    we're trying to help creating
    citation candidate pool
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    to improve the productivity of people
    who want to add citation
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    but also see if we can make that
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    into a training data
    accessible to researchers.
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    So let me use WikiLoop Battlefield
    as an example.
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    If you have... try it on your phone--
    battlefield.wikiloop.org.
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    By the way, I want to highlight,
    the name is subject to change
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    because some friendly community members
    have come to me and suggest
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    that Battlefield might not be
    the best name for a project
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    serving the Wikimedia movement.
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    So if you don't like this name,
    come join us in the discussion,
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    provide your suggestion,
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    we will be very happy
    to converge to a name
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    that has community consensus
    and popularity.
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    But let's use that as a placeholder here.
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    I don't need to introduce
    to this group of people
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    about the typical vandalism workflow
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    but if you have already...
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    trying to conduct
    some counter-vandalism activity,
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    you might know that it's not very trivial.
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    How many of you have seen vandalism
    on Wikipedia and Wikidata?
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    Okay, how many of you
    have reverted, by hand, some of them?
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    How many of you have used certain tools
    or go ahead and find certain tools
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    to patrol or revert vandalism?
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    Okay.
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    Cool, this is
    the highest density of people
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    who have tried to revert vandalism
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    that I have spoken to before.
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    So maybe some of you have been
    very comfortably doing that
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    but for me as someone
    who started editing actively
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    only since like three years ago
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    and who only started to be very serous
    doing vandalism detection and patrolling
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    only since about last year
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    I found that doing so is not super easy
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    on the world of Wikimedia movement.
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    If we look at the existing alternatives
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    there are tools that is built
    featuring desktops,
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    there are tools that is relying
    on users who have rollback permissions,
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    which itself is a big barrier to get.
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    We want to make this
    a super easy to use platform
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    for all the three roles.
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    The first one is user, reviewer or editor,
    whatever you call it.
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    The second one is researcher
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    who is trying to create
    vandalism detecting algorithms or systems.
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    And the third one is developers
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    who is trying to improve
    this WikiLoop Battlefield tooling.
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    We want it to be
    super easy for user to use.
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    You can you pull up your phone,
    you don't have to install it,
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    you can do in on your laptop.
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    And we also want
    to lower a barrier to review.
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    The reason why other tools
    are trying to limit the access to the tool
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    is because there needs to be
    a base trust level for people to use them.
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    You don't want someone
    to come to a counter-vandalism tool
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    to vandalize itself.
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    So what we are trying to do is that,
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    to begin with, we want
    to make it super easy
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    but also we want to allow multiple people
    to label the same thing.
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    Also we want to make it super convenient
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    to see the [inaudible],
    to see other label, and all in real time.
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    We also want to make it
    for researchers super easy to use.
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    By one click you can download the labeling
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    and maybe start play with the data
    and see how it fits in your model.
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    And we provide APIs
    that have access to real time data.
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    And for the developer
    we make it very easy to pick up--
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    we have one click--
    you can deploy your trial instances,
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    things like that.
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    This is an example
    about building projects
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    for umbrella like WikiLoop.
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    We want to make sure
    the community trust comes the first.
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    We usually need to make it
    open source the best.
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    And we want to avoid proprietary tech,
    we want to avoid tech lock-down,
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    and we rely on community approval
    for certain features.
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    And if you have seen this--
    this is the components that we rely on--
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    still very early stage but you get
    the principles behind the design.
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    So what's next, we are trying
    to grow our usage.
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    Hopefully you can try it out by yourself
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    and promise to me
    that you don't click on the login.
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    There is a login button--
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    there will be some good features
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    that make it super easy
    to even revert something.
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    Currently it's still a jump to revert.
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    But we are building features,
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    and we are also trying
    to let you choose some categories
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    or the watchlist
    that you will be watching
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    and the one that you care about to patrol.
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    And also if you are researchers
    while doing related vandalism detection,
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    try our data and give us feedback.
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    And I will go through quickly
    about a few other projects
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    that we are featuring here
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    and we will look for questions
    and feedback from you
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    about what we think
    and what you think should be there
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    or how we should fix things
    if it doesn't work right.
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    Wikidata Game is a platform
    built by a community member Magnus,
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    a celebrity in this community, I think.
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    And by showing this
    we are providing datasets
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    but we also want to let people know
    that we are not reinventing the wheels,
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    that we are not trying to...
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    When we come up with some idea,
    we look into with community
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    and see if there is
    existing tools that's there
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    and how we can be
    a part of the ecosystem
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    rather than building everything
    independently and everything separately.
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    And this is the current status.
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    By early results, we show that Wikidata...
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    a few games that we released
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    have triggered and proved activity
    on the entities related
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    and a few follow up.
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    One thing that we have come up with,
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    as I have talked
    to a few community members
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    is the PreCheck idea
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    that is basically providing
    preliminary check about bulk uploads,
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    sampled preliminary check
    by community member
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    and use that to generate a report,
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    make it easier for discussions
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    about whether this big block
    of Wikidata datasets
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    should be included
    or uploaded to wikidata.org
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    or it should be rechecked or fixed.
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    And there is another project
    that is mostly a dataset project
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    called CatFacts.
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    CatFacts is datasets that we generate
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    about facts from categories,
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    the one that you see,
    the Christian Scientist, just now
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    is actually an interesting outlier
    of data points
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    from this effort.
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    This goal is to generate
    the facts from category
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    which we think have been
    very rich facts online that people...
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    that has been under leverage.
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    But before it can be fully leveraged
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    we need to make sure
    that quality is good enough as well
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    and there is efforts
    of putting it onto Wikidata Game
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    and there is effort that we're thinking
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    maybe building PreCheck
    would help as well.
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    And it's still in early stage.
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    Feel free to come to talk us
    about other efforts,
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    other ideas you think
    about datasets we could provide.
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    The Bot, which is communication tools.
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    We know that Bot can do many things
    like writhing Wikipedia article
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    but we promised
    that we don't write actual article
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    but we mostly use it
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    as a way to communicate
    from, let's say, user talk
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    to give us access
    to large scale conversations
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    with the community members.
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    Explorer is going to show
    all our datasets,
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    our toolings, their stats
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    and queries you can run on our things.
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    Stay tuned, this one is releasing soon.
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    And we have several other ideas
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    but I would jump
    to this overall portfolio.
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    It would be several projects
    to begin with datasets and tooling,
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    and what we are doing currently
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    is Explorer, Battlefield,
    CatFacts and PageRank,
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    and there are some other upcoming ideas
    like PreCheck, CitePool and Bubbles.
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    And this is one of the diagrams
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    that I want to show you.
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    We want to not only use
    one individual project
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    to contribute the community
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    and also generate the training data
    for the research, academia,
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    we also have an idea
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    that these projects may work together.
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    For example, the CitePool,
    the system that we want to build
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    to allow people to easier find citations
    for Wikipedia articles or Wikidata
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    but also use the Explorer
    to display the result--
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    it depends on the page rank
    scorances of datasets
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    to determine how to rank the citation page
    that we will recommend
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    and use the PreCheck
    to do quality, sanity check
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    and maybe create
    bulk batch reports by Bot
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    and the PreCheck will depend
    on the Game as well.
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    If some of our community friends
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    have been following
    the progress of WikiLoop,
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    we have been through ice-breaking phase,
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    we were trying to earn the community trust
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    because we know how cautious
    we need to be
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    coming to contribute to a movement
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    that relies so much
    on the neutrality and non-bias policies.
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    And we have gradually start to have ideas
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    about tools and datas
    and find the direction
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    of how we can possibly
    make this sustainable.
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    And we are looking into creating
    long-term sustainability,
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    both internally and also externally,
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    both in terms of getting resource
    and getting support,
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    also externally of getting engagement,
    getting usage, and getting contributors,
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    starting from next quarter.
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    I want to quote Evan You,
    who is a creator
  • 22:53 - 22:59
    of popular frontend framework Vue.js,
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    "Software development
    gets tremendously harder
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    when you start to have to convince people
    instead of just writing the code."
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    This applies to editing
    Wikipedia or Wikidata.
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    It's very easy to click a button
    and add individual articles
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    but also it's very hard
    when you need to convince people.
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    I hope to leave some time for questions,
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    although we only have few,
    probably one or two minutes.
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    Yes, so we have about two minutes.
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    So if people want to shout questions out,
    I'll bring the mic over.
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    Hands up maybe.
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    (person 1) So where would I go to
    at this moment if I would like to use this
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    to solve some of the problem
    with chemicals,
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    where some Wikipedia pages
    about chemicals,
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    they have a chem box
    about a specific chemical
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    but are otherwise about
    a class of chemicals.
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    Is that something
    where WikiLoop could help?
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    I think that's the individual
    domain expertize part, right?
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    If you are talking
    about topics of articles
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    that are associated with specific topics.
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    We are trying to...
    we might be able to help
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    but we are trying to tackle the problem
    that is like more general currently.
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    And overall the goal is
    to find the possibility of
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    empowering human beings productivity
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    and also trying to generate the knowledge
  • 24:42 - 24:44
    that potentially helps...
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    the training data that potentially
    helps the algorithms.
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    (person 2) I think we have time
    for a very quick one.
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    (person 3) Are you also going to do this
    for search of data on Commons?
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    Yeah, we hope to...
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    If you are referring to Battlefield
    or counter-vandalism tools,
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    yeah, we are planning
    to expand it to other Wiki projects,
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    including Commons in Wikidata.
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    (person 2) I think that's all the questions
    we have time for
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    but if you'd like to show
    your appreciation for [Victor.]
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    Thank you.
  • 25:21 - 25:25
    (applause)
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