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Herald: Welcome back to our studio in
Halle. And today, the the next
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presentation will be about the Careables
a moving exhibition. The speaker Saad
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Chinoy, is managing his local makerspace
called Salvage Garden in Singapore. He
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considers himself a geek and maker, and
we'll talk about the moving exhibition
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today.
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Saad: Thanks again, and sorry about all of
this. It's become the necessary dance that
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we have to do with all the remote
connections and multiple streams and so
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on. But thank you again for the intro and
I'm really happy to be with you guys in
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spite of all of the distances and not
really happening in the physical space,
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which is kind of what I'd like to talk
about with you a little bit. And before I
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get into it, let me do a little bit of an
intro. My name is Saad and I'm based in
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Singapore. Normally, I'd set up a little
maker spaces and I'm all about trying to
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apply tech for good. And I have
volunteered with Engineering Good, which
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is a nonprofit charity based in Singapore,
and we work with persons with
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disabilities. I'm here today to try and
talk to you and to share with you a little
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bit about what we've been doing in
combination with partners from around the
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world through a program called Careables.
And if you've read the little description
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of the talk, you'll probably be wondering
why all of the people mentioned there
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aren't here. And it's kind of what this is
all about. They weren't able to join me in
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conversation for various COVID related,
safe distancing travel related issues.
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Ricardo is in-between places. Geraldine is
also in between places. And so as far as
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you are, and I'm actually quite fortunate
to be able to jump in and share with you
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what we have. So I'm going to keep it nice
and informal and brief. But for my co-
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presenters, I hope that continued health
and that they have safe travels and I hope
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to see them again soon. All right. So if
I'm able to if you're able to see my
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screen, I'd like to show you around a
little virtual space that we've created. I
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mean, careables.org is the project and
you'll find more about careables on the
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website and so on. But because of the
restrictions that we're all under around
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the world, having a physical interaction
is like CCC to be next to impossible right
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now, and it makes perfect sense. And we
need to put health and safety first. So
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the virtual exhibition that I'm about to
show you is created in a two dimensional
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world on a platform called Cabbagetown,
which is not unlike the 2D world that RC3
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also has. It's actually inspired by last
year CCC, if you see and the sort of
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interactions that we saw while people were
able to sort of run into each other and
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have a spontaneous conversation just by
the fact that they were in back for the
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virtual space and a moment in time. So the
idea of having that virtual space seems a
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little bit strange because, you know, it's
all on the screen. So why bother? But I
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think the more you try this out, the more
you move around in this, in this two
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dimensional environment, you realize that
even though there's a slight difference
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between having a little character running
around. It really makes a huge impact. So
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that's kind of what we were inspired by.
And we create a little two dimensional
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space here, and we call this the
Terrible's International Park. And it has
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various instances or little jump off
points for different cables, moving
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exhibitions. And I'll show you one of
them, in particular the one that I've been
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facilitating in Singapore last year. And
you'll see that in a second. But if you're
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going to show you a little video to sort
of situate you as to where what these
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careables are moving and conditions that
are a bit like. And the video might be a
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little bit choppy because of their screen
share, but that's OK. There is no text,
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really. There's just a bit of music.
video plays So that's what the sort of
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intro video and you see this ad right in
the middle of this crossroads. So when you
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join the virtual space later on, I'll
share with you the link. You'll be able to
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sort of orient itself by looking at the
video, and I'm hoping that what you what
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you saw in that video, a little snippet of
the various exhibitions that have taken
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place around the world. I was the one sort
of facilitating curating the exhibition in
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Singapore and gave us an opportunity to
take this EU Horizon 2020 funded project,
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which is careables and invite other local
partners within Singapore to come forward
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with similar ideas. And just to give you a
little briefing there. It's about
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assistive technology, so things that are
either 3D printable or modified or custom
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made that cater to persons with
disabilities or try to address a need that
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has to do with persons with disabilities.
So those are the sorts of examples of
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objects, physical or otherwise that we put
together at these exhibitions. So let's
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take a quick look at Singapore. All you
have to do is sort of walk around to this
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portal, and once you get there, you got a
little instruction that says, you know,
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the key to continue and it will transport
you to another virtual space, which is
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also built on the town. So I'm going to
switch off this little video here and we
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can just use the moving around virtual
space, so all of these spaces were created
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by volunteers and super enthusiastic
interns, so they are a work in progress.
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But you can get a sense of what they're
all about. So here we are at in little
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tiny little shop house. If you're familiar
with Singapore, you'll know what shop
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houses are. It's basically a shop in the
downstairs area and a house upstairs
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traditionally. This has been converted
into an office, and it's a rather narrow.
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So the 2D space is created sort of to
resemble what it would feel like if you
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were in the physical space in and around
Singapore. So I'm just going to walk you
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through the space and show you all of the
things that we have on display here. The
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exhibition was late last year, and with
some really nice fun people, some of these
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are local partners. And so that's the
little poster at the entrance. This is our
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little lobby area. It's a courtyard and
it's open to the air. But we sit outside
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and talk about things and smoke cigarets
and things like that. Want to get in? It's
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a tiny little space where you'll see a
whole bunch of laptops arranged along the
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side, and there's a lot more in actual in
the actual space. And to tell you a little
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more about why we've got so many laptops,
here's a little intro video to give you an
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overview of what engineering is and why we
do what we do. So I hope this comes across
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OK? If not, you know, there will be help
outpaced the link in the chat or something
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similar.
Video is played When we started the CAC
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Initiative Competition Against Corporate
Initiative, we actually initially thought
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we would just refurbish 24 laptops and
pass it on to the beneficiaries and then,
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you know, watch Netflix and play
PlayStation for another two months. So
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far, we've been able to give out five and
a half thousand laptops. We work with more
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than 200 social service organizations or
charities. And true then we've given out
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all of these five and a half thousand
laptops.
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Joanne: I am Joanne. I am the director for
engineering good. We are a Singaporean
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charity who started out in 2014 working
with persons with disabilities to enable
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their inclusivity in daily life. We grew
in 2020 where as a cause of the pandemic,
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we started a new initiative to refurbish
and donate laptops to people who need
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them. And now we are working on new
initiatives that have come my way because
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of our work in assistive technology and
our work in digital inclusion. So, for
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example, our next big initiative is
troubleshooting community framework, where
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we will train volunteers to help
troubleshoot the laptops, the digital
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devices of people in need. Together with
our group and digital inclusion, we also
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have grown our initial work, which was
working with persons with disabilities.
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Our tech for good, for example, grew from
80 participants to 150 participants this
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year. We've grown from only working with
the six special schools to the 200
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charities in Singapore that work for and
with persons with disabilities. So because
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of the impact that we continue to make and
the impact that we are requested to make
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by our various social service
organizations, we have an internal
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conscience that makes us want to do more
and help more. And because of that
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engineering good. It is growing in leaps
and bounds. We got our first office in
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India in September 2020 and being a small
team of three four people. We thought this
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was all all. We need it right and a nice
little schoolhouse next to the mighty so
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that the volunteers can come in. However,
because of the growth in the initiatives
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that we want to do, we are hiring more and
more people. We now stand it full timers
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and we are hiring another five more. That
together with the rolling bunch of interns
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and the part timers and all the volunteers
that we have, it's making this space a bit
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congested too. We actually are moving to a
bigger space and industrial estate where
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we have about 2700 square feet and we can
then run small workshops and more programs
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and also trained digital inclusion efforts
that we will be doing. We would like to
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ask for your support in providing us with
more devices to refurbish, to pass on to
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the people who need them. We ask for your
support to come in and help volunteer as
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engineering, but we do not only need
engineering volunteers, we need volunteers
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of all types, we need people to work comes
comms, meaning people to help us with our
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website design our accounting just like
any other organization. So please, if you
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have the time and want to give more of
yourself, come and join engineering good.
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So we hope you can support engineering
good by donating to our cause and helping
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us grow so we can help more and more
people.
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Saad: OK, so it's a bit of a background of
the organization, but I have been
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volunteering with, as you heard from
Joanne is our executive director and he
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put in a lot of his heart into the work
that we do, and it's all about reaching
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out to those who are in need. And in the
last two years during the pandemic, we
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found ourselves responding to the call for
addressing the digital divide through
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refurbishing laptops. Although that is not
exactly what engineering good use to do,
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it is all about assistive tech. And so now
that we've handled that campaign, it's
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because of the volunteers and the sort of
devices that we've had. We were able to
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continue this campaign way beyond we
initially thought we're coming on to now.
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I think close to 6000 laptops in the last
two years that have gone to families that
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don't have access or are unable to work
from home and study from home at the same
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time. So in sort of combination with this,
laptop computers against COVID, as we like
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to call it, campaign, we've also now being
able to re energize our assistive tech
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work. And those are the exhibits that we
have on display here as part of the
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cababilies exhibition. So we do have a few
more videos, but I'm not going to bore you
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with those. I think as you explored the
space by yourself, you'll be able to view
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those without any lag and delay. So let me
just walk you through the upstairs area.
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So here we've come up to the top floor of
the space, and at the back you'll see
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there's a little corner that's been
designated the salvage garden, and it's a
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sort of reference to Savage Garden. We do
have sort of a vague. I mean, there's a
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broad range of volunteers that would that
that spend time with engineering good. But
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with the reference to Savage Garden, I
think you understand what demographic
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we're working with, and that's kind of how
the the the name came about. But the idea
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was that we would salvage as many of these
devices that were not working into working
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devices and then send them out to the
families that need them most. And this is
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work that. So this is the corner that is a
little makerspace. And you know, like most
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maker spaces, it tends to be appropriately
messy. You could probably also see in the
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in the corner there we have our supervisor
stick stuck to the window. She's our most
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furry volunteer, and she just wandered in
while we were refurbishing laptops and she
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wasn't being cared for because everybody
was on lockdown and she didn't have the
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usual source of food, which was leftovers
from cafes and restaurants. Wandered in
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from the street. And she's been with us
ever since, sort of keeping an eye on
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things when nobody is there. Gordon is a
space with a cat. She does also keep an
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eye on activities, and I'd like to show
you that, but before I show you some of
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the current projects, let's have a look at
what's on display here for each of these
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tables has sort of like a representation
of what was displayed in the actual
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physical exhibition. So if you walk up to
it and hit X, you'll be able to see a
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photograph or a video or a series of
photographs and videos that show you the
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object of this event as a good example of
one of the careables. It was designed by
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an Italian consortium member, and they
went on to have a successful Kickstarter
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program around commercialization of this
idea. But the open source files and the
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models do exist, so you're able to just
download and 3D print and edge a
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noncommercial version of this to try out
for yourself. And of course, you know,
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being 3D printable, it allows for
customization and personalization. And
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this particular object is designed for
children with fine motor control
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difficulties that are instead of being
able to hold a pencil with their index
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finger in their thumb. You have sort of a
wearable ring that goes on to multiple
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fingers, and they're able to hold their
pens and pencils and draw on on paper. If
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you look at the little poster at the end,
I think that'll give us a little bit more
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of a detailed view of what this is all
about. And, you know, just like an
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exhibition, you have links to where it's
available and how you can get involved if
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you choose to do so. So that, Cliffo, so
let's have a look at the next stage, this
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particular one is a personal favorite of
mine. I mean, this is engineering goods
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careables if you like, and it is in doing.
Ever since we started as. When I make
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these assistive switches, which are 3D
printable and are incredibly easy to
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lightweight and easy to adapt to specific
circumstances. So if you have a mobility
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issue, say you are wheelchair bound and
you have to install switches or access
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control mechanisms around your wheelchair.
Then having it be as lightweight and
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modular as possible is a good idea. So
these switches really help, and we've been
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using them in various ways. In particular,
we've been plugging them into toys. And as
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part of our hackertoy workshop, where we
teach caregivers and cognitive behavioral
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therapists how to make the switches
themselves. So the idea behind what
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engineering good does is not just create
the devices, but to engage the primary
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caregivers as well as the end users as
much as humanly possible, and share the
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skills behind making the idea of thinking
out of the box and looking at what your
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specific needs are and repurposing things
that you have around you in order to
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create something new. This is another
example of a very interesting invention.
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This was contributed by S.G. Enable, which
is a local Singapore based organization
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that has a physical library for assistive
tech from commercial examples, engineering
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good tends to focus on sort of like a low
cost alternative to what's available in
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the marketplace. But if you are in
Singapore and you want to have access to
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assistive tech devices just to get a feel
for what they look like, S.G. and A they
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will make you try these things out. So
they contributed this, which is a very
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interesting little jacket, and it looks
like a hoodie like any other. But if you
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look closely, the pockets in the lining of
this jacket actually have little air
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pockets inside and they can inflate and
sort of give you a feeling of a hug. And
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it's used for kids who are have NZD
disorders, and it's found to be quite
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useful and helpful in situations like
that. And of course, there are other
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scenarios where this could be useful as
well. That's the T-jacket. Let's look at
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what else we have here. This is a good
little 3-D printable that was again a
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collaboration between two maker spaces.
And it offers up for attachment that is
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incredibly lightweight because a 3D
printable and incredibly modular because
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you can attach different little pieces to
it. And as the arm grows or as the user's
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needs change, it's easier to make
something that is 3D printable on the
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spot, and it's easier to modify it so that
it doesn't rub against the skin, or it's
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know a little bit bigger on one side or a
little bit more bent this way. So we find
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that the possibilities around these kinds
of objects are far more conducive towards
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the user rather than what's available in
the marketplace, and they tend to be
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heavier and mass and incredibly expensive.
So we feel that salvage garden, that we
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don't just play the role of making these
things in 3-D printing. We have the
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responsibility to also make the
modifications and the changes necessary in
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order to facilitate its use. I mean, it's
all very well to have as much, you know,
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brilliant AI enabled fancy tech in the
world. But if it's not going to be usable,
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then what's the point of the fancy tech?
So we want to try and bring to you
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printable objects and 3-D printing closer
to the end users as much as possible. And
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we're not alone in this. There are other
spaces that are doing it. And I think
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Campbell's is a good example of who those
people are. One last little exhibit that
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I'd like to point out here is something
that is available in the marketplace, but
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incredibly useful. It's called the roll
around. And it is the commercial product,
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it is not particularly cheap, but it is
incredibly useful in making spaces
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accessible. It rolls up into a sort of
like a yoga mat kind of format. And since
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it's metal, it is quite heavy. But once it
rolls out, you can bridge over the little
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tiny little steps like this and allow
access for wheelchairs and so on. And
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let's just have a quick look at the poster
on the wall. Books are on the wall is not
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OK. It seems to be connected to Syria. The
whole can still coming through. I'm going
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to quickly reload this. But in the
meanwhile, at the end of my little talk
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here, I'll share the link to the main
space and to a like a little QR code as
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well with the tiny URL that will point you
to the virtual space, and I highly
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encourage you to come and visit and
explore on your own time. It looks like
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we're OK here. All right. One last thing I
want to show you at Makerspace is what I'm
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currently working on and. You'll notice on
this table we've got a bunch of pie. And
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that was the closest analog I could find
in this virtual 2D space for the Raspberry
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Pi, which is the sort of programable
pocket sized credit card size computer
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that I feel has tremendous potential. And
the little slice of pie on the table. And
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I'd like to show you that as an example
here. Hopefully, this will work. Yeah.
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Here we go. And let's get rid of these
here. It's very quick. It's a little, a
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few slides, and I'm sure you've had a lot
of you are familiar with this wearable
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device, which is the Google Glass, and
it's quite pricey. It didn't make it into
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the mass market, but it still is around
and is being used in enterprise
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environments and is quite expensive. But
that was an interesting article, which the
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link to a use case where children with
disabilities or in this case autism could
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use this device as a variable in order to
assist with the activities of daily
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living. And it's still being explored.
There are sort of very small little use
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case and trials where this is being tried
out, but I personally, I feel this is an
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excellent use case for something that
didn't quite make it into the mass market.
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However, the technology behind it is
inaccessible financially, because for 999
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US dollars, it might be OK for an
enterprise to use it, but for an
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individual that is still quite hard to
reach. And there's little caption at the
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bottom red state surprisingly simple. But
if you take apart one of these devices,
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you very quickly realize that it's far
from simple and there's a phenomenal
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amount of tech that an engineering that
goes into making a device like this
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possible. Just the idea of having the
screen in front of your eyes so close kind
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of defies the laws of physics. And to be
able to overlay a little bit of text or a
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little bit of information wire will to see
through it. The key thing, but it took a
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whack at it and in our low cost sort of
DIY maker kind of way, we said, Look,
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let's find a low cost alternative to this
and see if we can make it work. And what
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we have here is a device that basically
auto translates. It has a little
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microphone that picks up what is being
said, and I'm sure everybody is familiar
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with this by now on YouTube or other video
things. You can have little auto generated
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captions that text that speech to text
technology and having that be visible to a
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person who has difficulty with hearing is
a good idea, and it assists with
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scenarios, where otherwise you would be
required to lip read. And now everybody's
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wearing masks. And if you have more than
one person in the room, it's a bit tricky
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to be able to manage it all. So the use
case, that we were looking at is a low
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cost alternative to something like the
Google Glass, something that can be worn,
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but it's also lightweight and incredibly
affordable. So we did manage to put
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something like that together. And again,
you know, in true maker Open-Source
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fashion, all of our volunteers very
happily made everything open and
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parametric. So this these are preliminary
designs. It's a work very much still in
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progress. But the intention here is again
to keep it as open and accessible and
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modular as possible. So where we are now
is we have successfully made a functional
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prototype of just this idea, and you can
see the screen kind of sticks out very
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noticeably, but it does deliver the end
functionality that is required, so it's
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not meant to be worn all the time. But,
you know, like a fancy pair of glasses,
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you put it on for special occasions and
you know where it can figure out. So we've
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made five of these in as many different
colors as two different hooks handle, and
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we have five hearing aid users who signed
up to trial this out and give us feedback
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on what works, what doesn't work, what
needs to be removed, or whether or not
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it's a stupid idea and things like that,
but the initial feedback has been quite
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positive. I think that it opens up a world
of possibilities here for involving users
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of these devices in its shape and
capabilities. So here's where we are now.
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We have this trial. It is ongoing early
mid chan. We should have the outcome of
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the user feedback and then we should be
able to take it to the next level. But so
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far, we've managed to keep it comfortably
within 99 dollars. And again, I want to
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reiterate that affordability is one thing,
and it's only possible because of
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volunteers not charging for that time. So
the equipment itself is incredibly low
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cost. But if you have a pool of volunteers
and give them access to space technology,
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tools and equipment and use it, I think
the product that comes out of it, it makes
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good sense on multiple levels. So this is
the Ihea prototype, that's a little bit
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about me, my background. You can explore
the space and look at the thing at your
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own time. But should you need to contact
me? That's my email address. So with that,
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I'm done with this space and I've given
you a little walk around of our little
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Singapore exhibition. And before I sort of
end, I'd like to point out the other
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things that we have here, a couple of
videos to give you a sense of what spaces
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like. There is, here we go. This is our
little website. And we think about the
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space and about what we've been doing as
part of the exhibition, will find on a
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little blog post. On this level. So I'm
hoping that the physical space is a little
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bit more engaging than just reading
another blog post, but you know, it helps
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to have it in this format as well. All
right. So that pretty much is this
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particular space. I'm going to walk you
out of Singapore and back to the
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international park, so to speak. And on
the way, we'll pass by all these hundreds
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and thousands of markups. And go back to
the portal that takes us to the main
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space. They're not working anymore. So
there we go. I'm really hoping that we
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won't have to do these online things
forever. I think it's they're moving
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forwards. It's a good idea to have a
hybrid situation. And now that we're all
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sort of forced to get comfortable and used
to doing remote sessions, hoping that next
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year we're able to do a more physical CCC
again. I really do miss that a lot. All
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right. So here we are. You had a look at
Singapore. You sort of have a little
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ComingSoon with placeholders for the other
moving exhibitions that were done around
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the world in the last year or so. And that
was mentioned in the central video. Before
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I end, I would like to just play this
video here, which I think captures the
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essence of what all of these spaces and
what engineering good inside Savage Garden
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has been trying to do. This one is the
open health academy from Be Able. *video
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plays* But she is focusing on that all the
interiors of mantle and mentioned focus on
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come on. Oh man, they're part of the
weekend and clan teams have smitten on
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life hacks. She does live in Brooklyn for
her mom on the idea that some folks in
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the. Sons of much respected fund owned
much by seven plus smart ones were loose
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on midday AEDT. Holly, to me, all the
Hollywood sign and then a central tenet
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who responded to the English novel. Open
source your. I think in this order,
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because I admit you're not ICC cricket.
Adina Chung, fullback make it Mervin
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fluent in Spanish. Magdalena Tomasetti is
a highly on India's next Adnan Fab Labs.
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He did so early, Tedward SplatS, who also
is innovative on workshops and and when I
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did this, put as much potassium and
products and pick in deposition this
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opportunity and with my project for the
initial release and sold us Kansai Anklets
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on. Just kind of it in traditional
bladders and thicker than advancement.
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Couldn't it be open, have I got any test
ratings of also having lousy take blame
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the industry? It's would be. That's all
being put up and break down. The question
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that you gave me about being accessible to
him, given that he keeps asking you. But.
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So with that, I'd like to thank you for
your time. And if there are any questions,
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I to take them now, but otherwise I hope
everybody is staying safe, be healthy.
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Gekko?
Herald Gekko: Yes. There are question, so.
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audio problems by the question.
Saad: Yeah, I mean, it's a very good
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question, and yes, that has been the
biggest challenge with trying to make
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something new, something innovative,
something that goes beyond what's already
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available. It requires hands on
interaction and with most maker spaces.
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This continues, to... It wasn't exactly
easy to do this even before we went into a
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pandemic situation, inviting people into a
space. We had different barriers to entry.
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People were shy, people were not familiar,
they were not comfortable, they were
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scared of the noisy machines. And that
still is the case. And not to add to that.
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We have, you know, masks and vaccinations
and all of these sorts of things, but
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we're still not out of the pandemic yet.
So we are finding ways to. You know,
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collaborate while making the hands on
element on our own. The idea of 3-D
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printing in the 3-D printable things is no
longer just trapped within a maker space.
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People have these things at home. One of
the most sort of heartening things I
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noticed. In the early days before the
before the vaccines were an option, there
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was this global shortage of PPE, and a lot
of makers stepped forward and said, Look,
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I understand how to use a 3-D printer, and
I don't normally think about this. But
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what? He is needed and was being polite
until shows intentionally or otherwise it
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was there and it and it has happened and
it has happened. *problems with the
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quality". So I feel like we have this
opportunity to translate some of that
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potential and bring it forward with us. We
are heading to an area where hopefully
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this pandemic situation will be less
stressful and allow for more interaction.
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But if we bring the lessons that we've
learned while we've been in lockdown, so
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to speak, I think the amount of potential
that we can realize is going to be
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phenomenal.
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Herald: That's that's very inspiring.
Thank you. And then another question. Do
you have any success stories of achieving
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your goal of inspiring the DIY and the
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maker culture? And then so that someone
else could develop or even just fabricate
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your prototype and then put it to use?
Yeah, Careables.ee is the is the website,
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and I think you'll find several examples,
not necessarily ones that have made. I
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mean, the engineering good examples that I
showed you with the switches there are on
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careables as well, but we found I found
several examples of other people's
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projects that were relevant to the
Singapore context and bringing those into
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that physical space where these people
interact with makers and other people
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allowed us to have that conversation. So
you just hand somebody a thing and they
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say, Look, I understand what you're
talking about now. Can you make this for
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me, but bigger or smaller or, you know,
hot chips or with the different texture,
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and we're now able to do that. But there
are examples on careables that have
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inspired that kind of conversation. So not
necessarily an actual object, but
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definitely that interaction is facilitated
by looking at other people's good ideas
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for assistive tech. The one that I talked
about with the little whearables. Reaper
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ads in Iowa City. And that's what we're
working on at the moment. And it will be
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made available for any. Anybody to
download, try it out for themselves. I
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will just throw on screen. Our little
website where all these projects are
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listed, and I'll point out this is the
one. So we're calling it an open source,
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head mounted display. And you can find out
more about it over here. I hope that
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answered the question. Herald: Oh, very
exciting. Uh, that's a really good cause.
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Thank you so much for talking about your
project and your foundation. Of course.
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Saad, thank you.
Saad: Thank you.
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Herald: All right. All right. Thank you
for the time and attention, and we'll be
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back with the next report in a bit.
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