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- [Voiceover] Hello grammarians.
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Welcome to one the thorniest
fights in English usage today.
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The question of whether
or not you should use
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who or whom in a sentence
as a relative pronoun.
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So there's this basic idea
that who is the subject form,
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and whom is the object form.
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Which means that if we're talking about
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someone who is the doer, then we say who.
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As in, the spy who loved me.
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As opposed to someone who
is the doee, the object.
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As in, the spy whom I loved.
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You see, cause in this
sentence, who is the subject.
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And in this sentence, I is the subject.
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Me is the object.
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And whom is the object.
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I loved whom?
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In this sentence, I am doing the loving.
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In this sentence it is the
spy who is doing the loving.
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That's the basic rule.
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But, this does not adequately reflect
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the way our culture actually uses
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and has used whom or who for some time.
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In many cases it has become permissible
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to use who as an object.
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Let me show you what I mean.
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So the thing to remember
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is that the basic rule
is a one way street.
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Because the way language is changing,
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whom is on its way out.
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I imagine in another 50, 75
years we won't be using it all.
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Is that sad?
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Sure, a little bit.
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I mean I'm sad that nobody
every uses the pronoun whoso.
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As in, whoso pulleth this
sword from this stone,
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is rightwise born king of England.
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We don't use that anymore.
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It's old fashioned.
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Now we say, whoever.
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And that's ok.
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So we know that the basic rule
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is that you use who as a subject
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and whom as an object.
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Well you can also now
use who as an object.
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The only thing you can't do
is whom is not a subject.
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That's the thing you need to remember,
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is that whom's use is not expanding.
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It is contracting.
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Who is taking over some of whom's duties.
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So let's go back to that spy example.
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So here are the four
possible options, right?
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The spy who loved me,
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the spy whom loved me,
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the spy who I loved,
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and the spy whom I loved.
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Now of these, only this one is incorrect.
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Because we're trying to
use whom as a subject.
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But here, the spy who I loved,
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where who is being an object,
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by the informal rules of our
grammar today, this is fine.
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Either of these is fine.
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The only one that's not
fine is this guy right here.
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The spy whom loved me.
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Because this language change
is going in one direction.
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And it's in the direction of
whom being used less often.
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So whom never expands from
its original position.
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Who does.
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So the next time you're
puzzling over what to do
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in the event of the sentence
who are you talking to,
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and whether or not this pronoun here
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should be who or whom,
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it's really an issue of tone
rather than correctness.
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Because both possibilies
are equally understandable.
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Yes, technically if you
wanted to be very correct
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you would say whom are you talking to,
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or you are talking to whom,
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because whom is the object
of this preposition.
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It's to whom, and so therefore
we would use the object form.
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But you find that when you
separate it out in this question,
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when you put the to at the end,
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and the whom question
particle at the beginning,
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this m just kind of falls away.
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Cause we're more likely to use whom
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when it's immediately
preceded by a preposition.
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But otherwise, it's probably
more likely gonna be who.
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Which is why it's not
that big of a deal to say
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who are you talking to.
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It's not technically correct,
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but it's been used for
so long that it's fine.
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You are talking to who
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is a little bit more
formal of a construction,
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and therefore you would
probably want to use whom.
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Saying you are talking
to who is not as common.
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So in this wild swamp of rule breaking
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there is one hard grammar
rule to pay attention to.
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And it's just never use whom as a subject.
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The role of whom in our
constellation of pronouns
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is decreasing, not expanding.
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Who is taking over whom.
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And since who is the subject,
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whom is not moving into that space.
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Whom is the object pronoun,
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and you use it when you're feeling fancy.
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You can learn anything.
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David out.