Residential Tenancies (Prohibiting Letting Fees) Amendment Bill - First Reading - Video 2

tenants to have pets, to make a
House a home. We will

tenants to have pets, to make a
House a home. We will look

House a home. We will look at
getting rid

House a home. We will look at
getting rid

House a home. We will look at

terminations. We will make life
terminations. We will make life

terminations. We will make life
better for renters.

terminations. We will make life
better for renters. Thank

terminations. We will make life
better for renters. Thank you.

terminations. We will make life
better for renters. Thank you. The

better for renters. Thank you. The
question

better for renters. Thank you. The
question

better for renters. Thank you. The
question is that the

better for renters. Thank you. The
question is that the

better for renters. Thank you. The
question is that the motion be

better for renters. Thank you. The
question is that the motion be

question is that the motion be
agreed to. I

question is that the motion be
agreed to. I

question is that the motion be
agreed to. I call

agreed to. I call the Hon Judith
Collins.

agreed to. I call the Hon Judith
Collins.

agreed to. I call the Hon Judith
Collins. The National Party opposes

Collins. The National Party opposes
Collins. The National Party opposes

Collins. The National Party opposes
this bill. We oppose

Collins. The National Party opposes
this bill. We oppose this

this bill. We oppose this bill
because

this bill. We oppose this bill
because

this bill. We oppose this bill
because it has

this bill. We oppose this bill
because it has not

because it has not been properly
thought

because it has not been properly
thought

because it has not been properly
thought through. If

because it has not been properly
thought through. If

because it has not been properly
thought through. If I look

because it has not been properly
thought through. If I look

because it has not been properly
thought through. If I look at

because it has not been properly
thought through. If I look at the

thought through. If I look at the
regulatory impact statement, it is

thought through. If I look at the
regulatory impact statement, it is

regulatory impact statement, it is
very clear

regulatory impact statement, it is
very clear

regulatory impact statement, it is
very clear that there

regulatory impact statement, it is
very clear that there has

regulatory impact statement, it is
very clear that there has been,

very clear that there has been, in
the words

very clear that there has been, in
the words

very clear that there has been, in
the words written

very clear that there has been, in
the words written on the

very clear that there has been, in
the words written on the

the words written on the regulatory
impact

the words written on the regulatory
impact statement,

the words written on the regulatory

the words written on the regulatory

on the proposal and the full extent
of

on the proposal and the full extent
of the

on the proposal and the full extent
of the

on the proposal and the full extent
of the impacts cannot

on the proposal and the full extent
of the impacts cannot be

of the impacts cannot be

of the impacts cannot be

of the impacts cannot be

of the impacts cannot be

their statement that there are
several

their statement that there are
several risks. I

their statement that there are
several risks. I

their statement that there are
several risks. I know

their statement that there are
several risks. I know

several risks. I know that Mr
Twyford's

several risks. I know that Mr
Twyford's

several risks. I know that Mr
Twyford's speech,

several risks. I know that Mr
Twyford's speech, I

several risks. I know that Mr
Twyford's speech, I

several risks. I know that Mr
Twyford's speech, I thought

say a bit mooted but he seemed to
constantly

say a bit mooted but he seemed to
constantly want

say a bit mooted but he seemed to
constantly want to

say a bit mooted but he seemed to
constantly want to talk about me. I

say a bit mooted but he seemed to
constantly want to talk about me. I

constantly want to talk about me. I
would say to

constantly want to talk about me. I
would say to

constantly want to talk about me. I
would say to him, it is

constantly want to talk about me. I
would say to him, it is actually

would say to him, it is actually not
all about

would say to him, it is actually not
all about

would say to him, it is actually not
all about me,

would say to him, it is actually not
all about me, Mr Twyford, it

would say to him, it is actually not
all about me, Mr Twyford, it

all about me, Mr Twyford, it is
about

all about me, Mr Twyford, it is
about

all about me, Mr Twyford, it is
about the people of

all about me, Mr Twyford, it is
about the people of New

all about me, Mr Twyford, it is
about the people of New Zealand.

all about me, Mr Twyford, it is
about the people of New Zealand. I

all about me, Mr Twyford, it is
about the people of New Zealand. I

about the people of New Zealand. I
suggest

about the people of New Zealand. I
suggest that he stops

about the people of New Zealand. I
suggest that he stops

about the people of New Zealand. I
suggest that he stops with the

about the people of New Zealand. I
suggest that he stops with the

about the people of New Zealand. I
suggest that he stops with the pat

suggest that he stops with the pat
Ron

suggest that he stops with the pat
Ron rising Cunliffian

suggest that he stops with the pat
Ron rising Cunliffian

Ron rising Cunliffian speeches and
get

Ron rising Cunliffian speeches and
get back

Ron rising Cunliffian speeches and
get back to what this

Ron rising Cunliffian speeches and
get back to what this

Ron rising Cunliffian speeches and
get back to what this is all about.

get back to what this is all about.
Let's

get back to what this is all about.
Let's talk about

get back to what this is all about.
Let's talk about property

Let's talk about property and
landlords and

Let's talk about property and
landlords and

landlords and tenants.

landlords and tenants.

Yes, on this side they are
Churchillian

Yes, on this side they are
Churchillian

Yes, on this side they are
Churchillian but on that side

Yes, on this side they are
Churchillian but on that side it

Yes, on this side they are
Churchillian but on that side it

Churchillian but on that side it is
Cunliffian! Everyone

Churchillian but on that side it is
Cunliffian! Everyone

Churchillian but on that side it is
Cunliffian! Everyone knows

Churchillian but on that side it is
Cunliffian! Everyone knows I am

Churchillian but on that side it is
Cunliffian! Everyone knows I am very

Cunliffian! Everyone knows I am very
until gent to

Cunliffian! Everyone knows I am very
until gent to

Cunliffian! Everyone knows I am very
until gent to Mr Twyford's

Cunliffian! Everyone knows I am very
until gent to Mr Twyford's

until gent to Mr Twyford's flights
of fancy

until gent to Mr Twyford's flights
of fancy

until gent to Mr Twyford's flights
of fancy but that is

until gent to Mr Twyford's flights
of fancy but that is

until gent to Mr Twyford's flights
of fancy but that is because I am

until gent to Mr Twyford's flights
of fancy but that is because I am

of fancy but that is because I am a
kind

of fancy but that is because I am a
kind

I will drive him out of this House
yet.

I will drive him out of this House
yet.

I will drive him out of this House
yet. This

I will drive him out of this House
yet. This bill is well

I will drive him out of this House
yet. This bill is well

yet. This bill is well meaning in
its

yet. This bill is well meaning in
its

yet. This bill is well meaning in
its intent. The

yet. This bill is well meaning in
its intent. The

yet. This bill is well meaning in
its intent. The intention is

yet. This bill is well meaning in
its intent. The intention is

its intent. The intention is to take
away

its intent. The intention is to take
away

its intent. The intention is to take
away the stress and

its intent. The intention is to take
away the stress and strain

its intent. The intention is to take
away the stress and strain of having

its intent. The intention is to take
away the stress and strain of having

away the stress and strain of having
to pay a

away the stress and strain of having
to pay a

away the stress and strain of having
to pay a cost of

away the stress and strain of having
to pay a cost of

away the stress and strain of having
to pay a cost of letting fee,

away the stress and strain of having
to pay a cost of letting fee,

to pay a cost of letting fee, which
is

to pay a cost of letting fee, which
is

to pay a cost of letting fee, which
is essentially paid

to pay a cost of letting fee, which
is essentially paid

to pay a cost of letting fee, which
is essentially paid to a

to pay a cost of letting fee, which
is essentially paid to a

is essentially paid to a property
manager

is essentially paid to a property
manager

is essentially paid to a property
manager to

is essentially paid to a property
manager to vet tenants,

is essentially paid to a property
manager to vet tenants,

manager to vet tenants, to taken
theants

manager to vet tenants, to taken
theants

manager to vet tenants, to taken
theants through the

manager to vet tenants, to taken
theants through the property,

theants through the property, to
talk to them

theants through the property, to
talk to them

theants through the property, to
talk to them to work out who

theants through the property, to
talk to them to work out who is

theants through the property, to
talk to them to work out who is the

talk to them to work out who is the
best tenant,

talk to them to work out who is the
best tenant,

talk to them to work out who is the
best tenant, best placed

talk to them to work out who is the
best tenant, best placed

talk to them to work out who is the
best tenant, best placed for this

talk to them to work out who is the
best tenant, best placed for this

best tenant, best placed for this
property

best tenant, best placed for this
property and

best tenant, best placed for this
property and also the manage the

property and also the manage the
property and also the manage the

property and also the manage the
property. So

property and also the manage the
property. So the

property and also the manage the
property. So the

property and also the manage the
property. So the Labour

property. So the Labour Government
in its trying

property. So the Labour Government
in its trying

property. So the Labour Government
in its trying to do its best,

property. So the Labour Government
in its trying to do its best,

in its trying to do its best, has
said, well,

in its trying to do its best, has
said, well, that

in its trying to do its best, has
said, well, that is now going to be

in its trying to do its best, has
said, well, that is now going to be

said, well, that is now going to be
free. That's going

said, well, that is now going to be
free. That's going to

said, well, that is now going to be
free. That's going to be free

said, well, that is now going to be
free. That's going to be free

free. That's going to be free to the
tenant. We

free. That's going to be free to the
tenant. We

free. That's going to be free to the
tenant. We have heard

free. That's going to be free to the
tenant. We have heard

tenant. We have heard from Mr
Twyford today

tenant. We have heard from Mr
Twyford today

tenant. We have heard from Mr
Twyford today that it is all going

tenant. We have heard from Mr
Twyford today that it is all going

Twyford today that it is all going

Twyford today that it is all going

Twyford today that it is all going

Twyford today that it is all going

tenant shouldn't have to pay. The
tenant

tenant shouldn't have to pay. The
tenant

tenant shouldn't have to pay. The
tenant will pay. The

tenant shouldn't have to pay. The
tenant will pay. The tenant

tenant will pay. The tenant will end
up paying

tenant will pay. The tenant will end
up paying in

tenant will pay. The tenant will end
up paying in terms of rent.

tenant will pay. The tenant will end
up paying in terms of rent. It

up paying in terms of rent. It is
all very

up paying in terms of rent. It is
all very well

up paying in terms of rent. It is
all very well to say

up paying in terms of rent. It is
all very well to say

up paying in terms of rent. It is
all very well to say using the

up paying in terms of rent. It is
all very well to say using the

all very well to say using the
supermarket example, you

all very well to say using the
supermarket example, you don't

supermarket example, you don't ask
people when

supermarket example, you don't ask
people when

supermarket example, you don't ask
people when they go into a

people when they go into a
people when they go into a

people when they go into a
supermarket to pay for

people when they go into a
supermarket to pay for

people when they go into a
supermarket to pay for the

supermarket to pay for the cost of
selling them

supermarket to pay for the cost of
selling them the

supermarket to pay for the cost of
selling them the goods. That

supermarket to pay for the cost of
selling them the goods. That is

selling them the goods. That is
entirely wrong. Yes,

selling them the goods. That is
entirely wrong. Yes,

selling them the goods. That is
entirely wrong. Yes, you do. When

selling them the goods. That is
entirely wrong. Yes, you do. When I

entirely wrong. Yes, you do. When I
go

entirely wrong. Yes, you do. When I
go into a

entirely wrong. Yes, you do. When I
go into a

go into a supermarket, and other
people do

go into a supermarket, and other
people do

go into a supermarket, and other
people do too, when we

go into a supermarket, and other
people do too, when we

people do too, when we do our
shopping, we

people do too, when we do our
shopping, we are

people do too, when we do our
shopping, we are not just

people do too, when we do our
shopping, we are not just

shopping, we are not just paying for
the food,

shopping, we are not just paying for
the food, we

shopping, we are not just paying for
the food, we are paying for

shopping, we are not just paying for
the food, we are paying for

the food, we are paying for the cost
of storage,

the food, we are paying for the cost
of storage,

the food, we are paying for the cost
of storage, we are paying

the food, we are paying for the cost
of storage, we are paying for

of storage, we are paying for the
cost of

of storage, we are paying for the
cost of

of storage, we are paying for the
cost of people to work in that

of storage, we are paying for the
cost of people to work in that

cost of people to work in that
supermarket,

cost of people to work in that
supermarket, we are

cost of people to work in that
supermarket, we are paying

cost of people to work in that
supermarket, we are paying for

cost of people to work in that
supermarket, we are paying for the

supermarket, we are paying for the
cost of food

supermarket, we are paying for the
cost of food that

supermarket, we are paying for the
cost of food that is spoilt, we

supermarket, we are paying for the
cost of food that is spoilt, we

cost of food that is spoilt, we are
paying for

cost of food that is spoilt, we are
paying for

cost of food that is spoilt, we are
paying for the

cost of food that is spoilt, we are
paying for the cost

cost of food that is spoilt, we are
paying for the cost of

paying for the cost of every single
thing.

paying for the cost of every single

paying for the cost of every single

Mr Twyford is calling out to say you
don't

Mr Twyford is calling out to say you
don't

Mr Twyford is calling out to say you
don't charge for coming into the

don't charge for coming into the
place.

don't charge for coming into the
place. Well, actually,

don't charge for coming into the
place. Well, actually,

don't charge for coming into the
place. Well, actually, you do. It

don't charge for coming into the
place. Well, actually, you do. It

place. Well, actually, you do. It is
spread across

place. Well, actually, you do. It is
spread across

place. Well, actually, you do. It is
spread across the cost of all

place. Well, actually, you do. It is
spread across the cost of all

spread across the cost of all the
goods in the

spread across the cost of all the
goods in the store.

spread across the cost of all the
goods in the store. That's

spread across the cost of all the
goods in the store. That's the thing

goods in the store. That's the thing
with

goods in the store. That's the thing
with this bill. So

goods in the store. That's the thing
with this bill. So

goods in the store. That's the thing
with this bill. So it

goods in the store. That's the thing
with this bill. So it is going to

goods in the store. That's the thing
with this bill. So it is going to be

goods in the store. That's the thing

goods in the store. That's the thing

goods in the store. That's the thing

goods in the store. That's the thing

goods in the store. That's the thing

goods in the store. That's the thing

rental fees or leasing fees or
management

rental fees or leasing fees or
management fees, it is

rental fees or leasing fees or
management fees, it is

rental fees or leasing fees or
management fees, it is going to be a

management fees, it is going to be a
bit

management fees, it is going to be a
bit tough. It will be

management fees, it is going to be a
bit tough. It will be

management fees, it is going to be a
bit tough. It will be tough for

management fees, it is going to be a
bit tough. It will be tough for some

bit tough. It will be tough for some
families and people

bit tough. It will be tough for some
families and people

families and people who want to
rent.

families and people who want to
rent.

families and people who want to
rent. Having

families and people who want to
rent. Having said

families and people who want to
rent. Having said that,

families and people who want to
rent. Having said that, if

families and people who want to
rent. Having said that, if you

rent. Having said that, if you are
actually

rent. Having said that, if you are
actually

rent. Having said that, if you are
actually going to be

rent. Having said that, if you are
actually going to be

rent. Having said that, if you are
actually going to be a

tenant, and what we see now from the
reports

tenant, and what we see now from the
reports is

tenant, and what we see now from the
reports is

tenant, and what we see now from the
reports is that most

tenant, and what we see now from the
reports is that most tenants

tenant, and what we see now from the
reports is that most tenants now,

tenant, and what we see now from the
reports is that most tenants now,

reports is that most tenants now,
the average stay

reports is that most tenants now,
the average stay

reports is that most tenants now,
the average stay is two

reports is that most tenants now,
the average stay is two

reports is that most tenants now,
the average stay is two years, that

reports is that most tenants now,
the average stay is two years, that

the average stay is two years, that
is a

the average stay is two years, that
is a significantly

the average stay is two years, that
is a significantly long time. If

the average stay is two years, that
is a significantly long time. If

is a significantly long time. If
people

is a significantly long time. If
people are

is a significantly long time. If
people are having to

is a significantly long time. If
people are having to pay

is a significantly long time. If
people are having to pay the cost

is a significantly long time. If
people are having to pay the cost

people are having to pay the cost
and

people are having to pay the cost
and maybe

people are having to pay the cost
and maybe a landlord saying,

people are having to pay the cost

maybe within the next six months or
year

maybe within the next six months or
year

maybe within the next six months or
year I will have to find

maybe within the next six months or
year I will have to find

year I will have to find a new
tenant so

year I will have to find a new
tenant so I

year I will have to find a new
tenant so I will put that into

year I will have to find a new
tenant so I will put that into the

tenant so I will put that into the
cost

tenant so I will put that into the
cost

tenant so I will put that into the

tenant so I will put that into the

tenant so I will put that into the

the longest term tenant will end up
paying

the longest term tenant will end up
paying

the longest term tenant will end up
paying more because they will

the longest term tenant will end up
paying more because they will pay

paying more because they will pay
this increased

paying more because they will pay
this increased

paying more because they will pay
this increased rent every single

paying more because they will pay
this increased rent every single

this increased rent every single
week or fortnight,

this increased rent every single
week or fortnight,

this increased rent every single
week or fortnight, depending

week or fortnight, depending when
they pay their rent.

week or fortnight, depending when
they pay their rent.

week or fortnight, depending when
they pay their rent. It can

week or fortnight, depending when
they pay their rent. It can end

they pay their rent. It can end up
with a

they pay their rent. It can end up
with a

they pay their rent. It can end up
with a worse

they pay their rent. It can end up
with a worse outcome for

they pay their rent. It can end up
with a worse outcome for tenants

with a worse outcome for tenants who
are very stable,

with a worse outcome for tenants who
are very stable,

with a worse outcome for tenants who
are very stable, who

with a worse outcome for tenants who
are very stable, who want to stay

with a worse outcome for tenants who
are very stable, who want to stay

with a worse outcome for tenants who
are very stable, who want to stay in

are very stable, who want to stay in

are very stable, who want to stay in

Mr Twyford says it is illogical. It
is

Mr Twyford says it is illogical. It
is not

Mr Twyford says it is illogical. It
is not

Mr Twyford says it is illogical. It
is not illogical. If

Mr Twyford says it is illogical. It
is not illogical. If

Mr Twyford says it is illogical. It
is not illogical. If a landlord puts

Mr Twyford says it is illogical. It
is not illogical. If a landlord puts

is not illogical. If a landlord puts

is not illogical. If a landlord puts

is not illogical. If a landlord puts

come to rent out a property because
come to rent out a property because

come to rent out a property because
they feel

they feel they have to pay that
manager

they feel they have to pay that
they

they feel they have to pay that
manager to go around and check

they feel they have to pay that
manager to go around and check out

manager to go around and check out
all the

manager to go around and check out
all the

manager to go around and check out
all the tenants and

manager to go around and check out
all the tenants and

manager to go around and check out
all the tenants and everything

all the tenants and everything else,
a lot of

all the tenants and everything else,
a lot of

all the tenants and everything else,
a lot of people do ask

all the tenants and everything else,
a lot of people do ask for

a lot of people do ask for a manager
to do it

a lot of people do ask for a manager
to do it for

a lot of people do ask for a manager
to do it for a very

a lot of people do ask for a manager
to do it for a very

to do it for a very good reason
because

to do it for a very good reason
because

because they feel uncomfortable
often

because they feel uncomfortable
often

because they feel uncomfortable
often having to deal with

because they feel uncomfortable
often having to deal with people

often having to deal with people and
all the

often having to deal with people and
all the issues

often having to deal with people and
all the issues and they don't like

all the issues and they don't like
all the issues and they don't like

all the issues and they don't like
asking the questions. Lots

all the issues and they don't like
asking the questions. Lots

asking the questions. Lots of
landlords are

asking the questions. Lots of
landlords are just

asking the questions. Lots of
landlords are just mum

asking the questions. Lots of
landlords are just mum

asking the questions. Lots of
landlords are just mum and

landlords are just mum and dad
investors

landlords are just mum and dad
investors

landlords are just mum and dad
investors and they

landlords are just mum and dad
investors and they feel

landlords are just mum and dad
investors and they feel very nervous

investors and they feel very nervous
investors and they feel very nervous

investors and they feel very nervous
and very worried

investors and they feel very nervous
and very worried

investors and they feel very nervous
and very worried about having

investors and they feel very nervous
and very worried about having to

and very worried about having to
deal directly

and very worried about having to
deal directly with

and very worried about having to
deal directly with people's problems

and very worried about having to
deal directly with people's problems

deal directly with people's problems
and they

deal directly with people's problems
and they

deal directly with people's problems
and they worry about

deal directly with people's problems
and they worry about getting

and they worry about getting it
wrong. They

and they worry about getting it
wrong. They

and they worry about getting it
wrong. They also

and they worry about getting it
wrong. They also worry

wrong. They also worry about getting
the

wrong. They also worry about getting
the law

wrong. They also worry about getting
the law wrong so they ask

wrong. They also worry about getting
the law wrong so they ask to

wrong. They also worry about getting
the law wrong so they ask to get

the law wrong so they ask to get
managers

the law wrong so they ask to get
managers in to help

the law wrong so they ask to get
managers in to help them

managers in to help them with it.
The

managers in to help them with it.
The

managers in to help them with it.
The fact,

managers in to help them with it.
The fact, is if

managers in to help them with it.
The fact, is if you

managers in to help them with it.
The fact, is if you add

managers in to help them with it.
The fact, is if you add

managers in to help them with it.
The

managers in to help them with it.
or

managers in to help them with it.

managers in to help them with it.

if you stay for two or three years,
that's

if you stay for two or three years,
that's basically

if you stay for two or three years,
that's basically added

if you stay for two or three years,
that's basically added on every

that's basically added on every
single

that's basically added on every
single week that you're

that's basically added on every
single week that you're

single week that you're paying on
and you

single week that you're paying on
and you

single week that you're paying on
and you end up paying more.

single week that you're paying on
and you end up paying more.

and you end up paying more. So that
is

and you end up paying more. So that
is

and you end up paying more. So that
is quite a

and you end up paying more. So that
is quite a perverse

and you end up paying more. So that
is quite a perverse outcome. It

and you end up paying more. So that
is quite a perverse outcome. It

and you end up paying more. So that
is quite a perverse outcome. It is

is quite a perverse outcome. It is a
perverse outcome

is quite a perverse outcome. It is a
perverse outcome

perverse outcome because it means
the most

perverse outcome because it means
the most

perverse outcome because it means
the most stable and

perverse outcome because it means
the most stable and

perverse outcome because it means
the most stable and the best of

the most stable and the best of
tenants

the most stable and the best of
tenants end up paying more

the most stable and the best of
tenants end up paying more

the most stable and the best of
tenants end up paying more than

tenants end up paying more than
those

tenants end up paying more than
those

tenants end up paying more than
those who go in and

tenants end up paying more than
those who go in and out

those who go in and out of different
places.

those who go in and out of different
places. I

those who go in and out of different
places. I think it

those who go in and out of different
places. I think it

those who go in and out of different
places. I think it is

places. I think it is quite
perverse, frankly.

places. I think it is quite
perverse, frankly. And

places. I think it is quite
perverse, frankly. And that

places. I think it is quite
perverse, frankly. And that is

perverse, frankly. And that is
something that

perverse, frankly. And that is
something that I

perverse, frankly. And that is
something that I think is very

perverse, frankly. And that is
something that I think is very

something that I think is very
unfortunate because ultimately

something that I think is very
unfortunate because ultimately I

unfortunate because ultimately I
would have

unfortunate because ultimately I
would have

unfortunate because ultimately I
would have thought most landlords

would have thought most landlords
would have thought most landlords

would have thought most landlords
want to have

would have thought most landlords
want to have

would have thought most landlords
want to have stable tenancies,

would have thought most landlords
want to have stable tenancies, they

want to have stable tenancies, they
want to have

want to have stable tenancies, they
want to have

want to have stable tenancies, they
want to have tenants who do not

want to have stable tenancies, they
want to have tenants who do not

want to have tenants who do not
trash

want to have tenants who do not
trash their places. They

want to have tenants who do not
trash their places. They

want to have tenants who do not
trash their places. They want

trash their places. They want in
addition to

trash their places. They want in
addition to that

trash their places. They want in
addition to that tenants who

trash their places. They want in
addition to that tenants who

addition to that tenants who are

addition to that tenants who are

addition to that tenants who are

addition to that tenants who are

addition to that tenants who are

of dealing and the hassle of dealing
with

of dealing and the hassle of dealing
with

of dealing and the hassle of dealing
with constantly changing

of dealing and the hassle of dealing
with constantly changing

with constantly changing tenants is
really painful

with constantly changing tenants is
really painful

with constantly changing tenants is
really painful for

with constantly changing tenants is
really painful for both

really painful for both tenants and
also for

really painful for both tenants and
also for

really painful for both tenants and
also for landlords. So

really painful for both tenants and
also for landlords. So

really painful for both tenants and
also for landlords. So although this

really painful for both tenants and
also for landlords. So although this

also for landlords. So although this
is clearly

also for landlords. So although this
is clearly

also for landlords. So although this
is clearly well

is clearly well meaning, the one
country

is clearly well meaning, the one
country

is clearly well meaning, the one
country that

is clearly well meaning, the one
country that Mr

is clearly well meaning, the one
country that Mr

country that Mr Twyford wants to
point

country that Mr Twyford wants to
point

country that Mr Twyford wants to
point to is Scotland.

country that Mr Twyford wants to
point to is Scotland. I'm

point to is Scotland. I'm not sure
that

point to is Scotland. I'm not sure
that

point to is Scotland. I'm not sure
that Scotland's had quite the

point to is Scotland. I'm not sure
that Scotland's had quite the

that Scotland's had quite the same
increase

that Scotland's had quite the same
increase in

that Scotland's had quite the same
increase in immigration that

that Scotland's had quite the same
increase in immigration that

increase in immigration that we've
had

increase in immigration that we've
had

increase in immigration that we've
had or certainly

increase in immigration that we've
had or certainly

increase in immigration that we've
had or certainly decrease

increase in immigration that we've
had or certainly decrease

increase in immigration that we've
had or certainly decrease in

had or certainly decrease in
immigration

had or certainly decrease in
immigration

had or certainly decrease in
immigration that New Zealand's had

immigration that New Zealand's had
over

immigration that New Zealand's had
over the past few years

immigration that New Zealand's had
over the past few years and

over the past few years and I think
it is important

over the past few years and I think
it is important to

over the past few years and I think
it is important to know that

over the past few years and I think
it is important to know that

it is important to know that
Scotland

it is important to know that
Scotland is not necessarily going

it is important to know that
Scotland is not necessarily going

Scotland is not necessarily going to
be exactly the

Scotland is not necessarily going to
be exactly the same

Scotland is not necessarily going to
be exactly the same as New Zealand.

Scotland is not necessarily going to
be exactly the same as New Zealand.

be exactly the same as New Zealand.
We

be exactly the same as New Zealand.
We certainly have a

be exactly the same as New Zealand.
We certainly have a

be exactly the same as New Zealand.
We certainly have a high rate

be exactly the same as New Zealand.
We certainly have a high rate

We certainly have a high rate of
home ownership here

We certainly have a high rate of
home ownership here

home ownership here compared to some
parts

home ownership here compared to some
parts

home ownership here compared to some
parts of the

home ownership here compared to some
parts of the United

home ownership here compared to some
parts of the United Kingdom. I would

parts of the United Kingdom. I would
like

parts of the United Kingdom. I would
like to see us have

parts of the United Kingdom. I would
like to see us have more

like to see us have more home
ownership here. I

like to see us have more home
ownership here. I

like to see us have more home
ownership here. I think most people

ownership here. I think most people
would

ownership here. I think most people
would see that. I am

ownership here. I think most people
would see that. I am

would see that. I am very concerned
to hear that

would see that. I am very concerned
to hear that

would see that. I am very concerned
to hear that this is just the

would see that. I am very concerned
to hear that this is just the

would see that. I am very concerned
to hear that this is just the start

to hear that this is just the start
of significant

to hear that this is just the start
of significant changes

of significant changes to the
residential

of significant changes to the
residential

of significant changes to the
residential tenancy

of significant changes to the
residential tenancy Act which I can

of significant changes to the
residential tenancy Act which I can

residential tenancy Act which I can
tell him,

residential tenancy Act which I can
tell him,

residential tenancy Act which I can
tell him, tell Mr Twyford

residential tenancy Act which I can
tell him, tell Mr Twyford

tell him, tell Mr Twyford and the
Labour Party,

tell him, tell Mr Twyford and the
Labour Party,

tell him, tell Mr Twyford and the
Labour Party, already causes a

tell him, tell Mr Twyford and the
Labour Party, already causes a

Labour Party, already causes a great
deal of concern for

Labour Party, already causes a great
deal of concern for

Labour Party, already causes a great
deal of concern for mum

deal of concern for mum and dad
investors

deal of concern for mum and dad
investors

deal of concern for mum and dad
investors and landlords

deal of concern for mum and dad
investors and landlords

investors and landlords because they
worry

investors and landlords because they
worry

investors and landlords because they
worry so much about

investors and landlords because they
worry so much about how

investors and landlords because they
worry so much about how to

investors and landlords because they
worry so much about how to deal with

investors and landlords because they
worry so much about how to deal with

worry so much about how to deal with
tenants who don't

worry so much about how to deal with
tenants who don't

worry so much about how to deal with
tenants who don't pay

tenants who don't pay their rent,
trash

tenants who don't pay their rent,
trash

tenants who don't pay their rent,
trash the place, to

tenants who don't pay their rent,
trash the place, to

trash the place, to hear that
tenants will

trash the place, to hear that
tenants will

trash the place, to hear that
tenants will be keeping

trash the place, to hear that
tenants will be keeping dogs

tenants will be keeping dogs and
other animals

tenants will be keeping dogs and
other animals

tenants will be keeping dogs and
other animals in their houses. I

tenants will be keeping dogs and
other animals in their houses. I

other animals in their houses. I
think it

other animals in their houses. I
think it is

other animals in their houses. I
think it is quite important to

think it is quite important to
think it is quite important to

think it is quite important to
understand it is not

think it is quite important to
understand it is not just

think it is quite important to
understand it is not just the

understand it is not just the house
that belongs to the

understand it is not just the house
that belongs to the

that belongs to the landlord and the
trashing

that belongs to the landlord and the
trashing

that belongs to the landlord and the
trashing of houses

that belongs to the landlord and the
trashing of houses that

that belongs to the landlord and the
trashing of houses that happens

that belongs to the landlord and the
trashing of houses that happens

that belongs to the landlord and the
trashing of houses that happens with

trashing of houses that happens with
dogs and everything

trashing of houses that happens with
dogs and everything else

trashing of houses that happens with
dogs and everything else or these

dogs and everything else or these
dogs and everything else or these

dogs and everything else or these
other animals, but it

dogs and everything else or these
other animals, but it is

dogs and everything else or these
other animals, but it is the fact

dogs and everything else or these
other animals, but it is the fact

other animals, but it is the fact
that neighbours don't

other animals, but it is the fact
that neighbours don't

other animals, but it is the fact
that neighbours don't like this

that neighbours don't like this
that neighbours don't like this

that neighbours don't like this
either. In my

that neighbours don't like this
either. In my

either. In my electorate in
Papakura,

either. In my electorate in
Papakura,

either. In my electorate in
Papakura, we have a

either. In my electorate in
Papakura, we have a

either. In my electorate in
Papakura, we have a lot of

either. In my electorate in
Papakura, we have a lot of state

Papakura, we have a lot of state
tenants in

Papakura, we have a lot of state
tenants in

Papakura, we have a lot of state
tenants in state housing and most

Papakura, we have a lot of state
tenants in state housing and most of

tenants in state housing and most of
those people

tenants in state housing and most of
those people are

those people are very good tenants
who

those people are very good tenants
who do

those people are very good tenants
who do their

those people are very good tenants
who do their

those people are very good tenants
who do their very best

those people are very good tenants
who do their very best and

who do their very best and they are
excellent.

who do their very best and they are
excellent. There

who do their very best and they are
excellent. There are other

who do their very best and they are
excellent. There are other

who do their very best and they are
excellent. There are other people

excellent. There are other people
who

excellent. There are other people
who aren't. Who

excellent. There are other people
who aren't. Who

excellent. There are other people
who aren't. Who breach

who aren't. Who breach their tenancy
arrangements and keep

who aren't. Who breach their tenancy
arrangements and keep not

who aren't. Who breach their tenancy
arrangements and keep not just a

arrangements and keep not just a
arrangements and keep not just a

arrangements and keep not just a
little dog or

arrangements and keep not just a
little dog or

arrangements and keep not just a
little dog or a

arrangements and keep not just a
little dog or a dog but

arrangements and keep not just a
little dog or a dog but

arrangements and keep not just a
little dog or a dog but keep massive

arrangements and keep not just a
little dog or a dog but keep massive

little dog or a dog but keep massive
pit bulls, have

little dog or a dog but keep massive
pit bulls, have

little dog or a dog but keep massive
pit bulls, have gang members there,

little dog or a dog but keep massive
pit bulls, have gang members there,

pit bulls, have gang members there,
drive their

pit bulls, have gang members there,
drive their

pit bulls, have gang members there,
drive their neighbours

drive their neighbours to
distraction, threaten them and

drive their neighbours to
distraction, threaten them and

distraction, threaten them and
everything else. It is

distraction, threaten them and
everything else. It is

distraction, threaten them and
everything else. It is all very well

distraction, threaten them and
everything else. It is all very well

everything else. It is all very well
for

everything else. It is all very well
for Mr

everything else. It is all very well
for Mr Twyford to say,

everything else. It is all very well
for Mr Twyford to say,

everything else. It is all very well

but think about the tenant
neighbours

but think about the tenant
neighbours who have to

but think about the tenant
neighbours who have to

but think about the tenant
neighbours who have to then put up

but think about the tenant
neighbours who have to then put up

neighbours who have to then put up
with

neighbours who have to then put up
with pit

neighbours who have to then put up
with pit

neighbours who have to then put up
with pit bull

neighbours who have to then put up
with pit bull terriers

neighbours who have to then put up
with pit bull terriers ripping at

neighbours who have to then put up
with pit bull terriers ripping at

with pit bull terriers ripping at
their kids. We

with pit bull terriers ripping at
their kids. We

with pit bull terriers ripping at
their kids. We have this time

with pit bull terriers ripping at
their kids. We have this time

their kids. We have this time and
time again.

their kids. We have this time and
time again.

their kids. We have this time and
time again. So

their kids. We have this time and
time again. So I think it's

their kids. We have this time and
time again. So I think it's

time again. So I think it's when you
actually

time again. So I think it's when you
actually think

time again. So I think it's when you
actually think about this,

time again. So I think it's when you
actually think about this, most

actually think about this, most
tenants

actually think about this, most
tenants

actually think about this, most
tenants want

tenants want their neighbouring
tenants to

tenants want their neighbouring
tenants to

tenants want their neighbouring
tenants to live

tenants want their neighbouring
tenants to live their lives

tenants want their neighbouring
tenants to live their lives in

tenants to live their lives in a
decent

tenants to live their lives in a
decent

tenants to live their lives in a
decent and calm

tenants to live their lives in a
decent and calm

tenants to live their lives in a
decent and calm way and

tenants to live their lives in a
decent and calm way and not

decent and calm way and not attack
them and

decent and calm way and not attack
them and scream

decent and calm way and not attack
them and scream and shout and have

decent and calm way and not attack
them and scream and shout and have

them and scream and shout and have
parties all the

them and scream and shout and have
parties all the time

them and scream and shout and have
parties all the time but that

them and scream and shout and have
parties all the time but that

parties all the time but that would
be

parties all the time but that would
be the

parties all the time but that would
be the number

parties all the time but that would
be the number

parties all the time but that would
be the number 1 complaint that we

parties all the time but that would
be the number 1 complaint that we

be the number 1 complaint that we
get in our office is

be the number 1 complaint that we
get in our office is about

be the number 1 complaint that we
get in our office is about some

get in our office is about some of
the behaviour

get in our office is about some of
the behaviour

get in our office is about some of
the behaviour of the

get in our office is about some of
the behaviour of the neighbours

the behaviour of the neighbours of
people who

the behaviour of the neighbours of
people who

the behaviour of the neighbours of
people who live in

the behaviour of the neighbours of
people who live in

the behaviour of the neighbours of
people who live in large

people who live in large state
people who live in large state

people who live in large state
housing areas

people who live in large state
housing areas and

people who live in large state
housing areas and

people who live in large state
housing areas and that

people who live in large state
housing areas and that is

people who live in large state
housing areas and that is the

people who live in large state
housing areas and that is the

housing areas and that is the
responsibility

housing areas and that is the
responsibility of the

housing areas and that is the
responsibility of the Hon

responsibility of the Hon Phil
Twyford and what he

responsibility of the Hon Phil
Twyford and what he is

Twyford and what he is proposing

Twyford and what he is proposing

Twyford and what he is proposing

Twyford and what he is proposing

prohibiting letting fees but he has
now

prohibiting letting fees but he has
now signalled he is

prohibiting letting fees but he has
now signalled he is

prohibiting letting fees but he has
now signalled he is going to

prohibiting letting fees but he has
now signalled he is going to make

now signalled he is going to make it
easier

now signalled he is going to make it
easier

now signalled he is going to make it
easier for these people

now signalled he is going to make it
easier for these people

now signalled he is going to make it
easier for these people who are

now signalled he is going to make it
easier for these people who are

now signalled he is going to make it
easier for these people who are not

easier for these people who are not
decent neighbours to

easier for these people who are not
decent neighbours to their

decent neighbours to their
neighbouring

decent neighbours to their
neighbouring tenants,

decent neighbours to their
neighbouring tenants, who should

decent neighbours to their
neighbouring tenants, who should be

neighbouring tenants, who should be
able to expect

neighbouring tenants, who should be
able to expect

neighbouring tenants, who should be
able to expect from

neighbouring tenants, who should be
able to expect from the landlord a

able to expect from the landlord a
decent

able to expect from the landlord a
decent neighbour who

able to expect from the landlord a
decent neighbour who

able to expect from the landlord a
decent neighbour who is

able to expect from the landlord a
decent neighbour who is not going to

able to expect from the landlord a
decent neighbour who is not going to

decent neighbour who is not going to
attack them,

decent neighbour who is not going to
attack them,

decent neighbour who is not going to
attack them, I think

decent neighbour who is not going to
attack them, I think

attack them, I think is actually...

attack them, I think is actually...

Mr Twyford is saying I am talking
about

Mr Twyford is saying I am talking
about all renters. I

Mr Twyford is saying I am talking
about all renters. I

about all renters. I am talking
about

about all renters. I am talking
about

about all renters. I am talking
about the good people

about all renters. I am talking
about the good people

about the good people who rent
properties

about the good people who rent
properties

about the good people who rent
properties from him

about the good people who rent
properties from him and

about the good people who rent
properties from him and his

properties from him and his
organisation

properties from him and his
organisation who expect that

properties from him and his
organisation who expect that he

organisation who expect that he will
make sure that

organisation who expect that he will
make sure that

organisation who expect that he will
make sure that he will make sure

organisation who expect that he will
make sure that he will make sure

make sure that he will make sure
that they are safe and

make sure that he will make sure
that they are safe and that

that they are safe and that they
don't have

that they are safe and that they
don't have to

that they are safe and that they
don't have to fear their

that they are safe and that they
don't have to fear their

don't have to fear their neighbour
because

don't have to fear their neighbour
because

don't have to fear their neighbour
because that's the

don't have to fear their neighbour
because that's the

don't have to fear their neighbour
because that's the number

don't have to fear their neighbour
because that's the number 1

because that's the number 1 issue we
get is

because that's the number 1 issue we
get is

because that's the number 1 issue we
get is around

because that's the number 1 issue we
get is around the behaviour of one

because that's the number 1 issue we
get is around the behaviour of one

get is around the behaviour of one
or two people

get is around the behaviour of one
or two people in

get is around the behaviour of one
or two people in a street who

get is around the behaviour of one
or two people in a street who

or two people in a street who
destroy it for

or two people in a street who
destroy it for

or two people in a street who
destroy it for every other

or two people in a street who
destroy it for every other tenant.

destroy it for every other tenant.
He

destroy it for every other tenant.
He thinks that's

destroy it for every other tenant.
He thinks that's

destroy it for every other tenant.
He thinks that's funny but actually

destroy it for every other tenant.
He thinks that's funny but actually

He thinks that's funny but actually
I don't

He thinks that's funny but actually
I don't because

He thinks that's funny but actually
I don't because I represent an area

He thinks that's funny but actually
I don't because I represent an area

I don't because I represent an area
where we care.

I don't because I represent an area
where we care. The

I don't because I represent an area
where we care. The member's

I don't because I represent an area
where we care. The member's

I don't because I represent an area
where we care. The member's time

where we care. The member's time has
expired. Oh,

where we care. The member's time has
expired. Oh,

where we care. The member's time has
expired. Oh, what

where we care. The member's time has
expired. Oh, what a shame.

where we care. The member's time has
expired. Oh, what a shame. Can

expired. Oh, what a shame. Can I
remind

expired. Oh, what a shame. Can I
remind members

expired. Oh, what a shame. Can I
remind members about

expired. Oh, what a shame. Can I
remind members about

expired. Oh, what a shame. Can I
remind members about the use

expired. Oh, what a shame. Can I
remind members about the use

expired. Oh, what a shame. Can I
remind members about the use of

expired. Oh, what a shame. Can I
remind members about the use of the

expired. Oh, what a shame. Can I
remind members about the use of the

remind members about the use of the
personal

remind members about the use of the
personal pronounce

remind members about the use of the
personal pronounce

remind members about the use of the
personal pronounce pronoun

both sides that brings the Speaker
into

both sides that brings the Speaker
into

both sides that brings the Speaker
into the debate.

both sides that brings the Speaker
into the debate.

both sides that brings the Speaker
into the debate. Please

both sides that brings the Speaker
into the debate. Please be careful.

both sides that brings the Speaker
into the debate. Please be careful.

into the debate. Please be careful.
I

into the debate. Please be careful.
I call the

into the debate. Please be careful.
I call the

into the debate. Please be careful.
I call the Hon Jenny Salesa. Thank

into the debate. Please be careful.
I call the Hon Jenny Salesa. Thank

I call the Hon Jenny Salesa. Thank
you for this

I call the Hon Jenny Salesa. Thank
you for this opportunity

I call the Hon Jenny Salesa. Thank
you for this opportunity to take

I call the Hon Jenny Salesa. Thank
you for this opportunity to take

Carlton Residential Tenancies
(Prohibiting

Carlton Residential Tenancies
(Prohibiting

Carlton Residential Tenancies
(Prohibiting Letting

Carlton Residential Tenancies
(Prohibiting Letting Fees)

(Prohibiting Letting Fees) Amendment
Bill and I

(Prohibiting Letting Fees) Amendment
Bill and I

(Prohibiting Letting Fees) Amendment
Bill and I would like

(Prohibiting Letting Fees) Amendment
Bill and I would like to

Bill and I would like to wish
everyone

Bill and I would like to wish
everyone a

Bill and I would like to wish
everyone a happy

Bill and I would like to wish
everyone a happy and

Bill and I would like to wish
everyone a happy and blessed Easter,

Bill and I would like to wish
everyone a happy and blessed Easter,

everyone a happy and blessed Easter,
especially my colleague,

everyone a happy and blessed Easter,
especially my colleague,

everyone a happy and blessed Easter,
especially my colleague, the Hon

especially my colleague, the Hon
especially my colleague, the Hon

especially my colleague, the Hon
Judith Collins. I hope

especially my colleague, the Hon
Judith Collins. I hope

Judith Collins. I hope she has a
good

Judith Collins. I hope she has a
good break

Judith Collins. I hope she has a
good break in the

Judith Collins. I hope she has a
good break in the next

Judith Collins. I hope she has a
good break in the next few days.

good break in the next few days.

good break in the next few days.