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Soon we'll cure diseases with a cell, not a pill

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    I want to talk to you
    about the future of medicine,
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    but before I do that, I want to talk
    a little bit about the past.
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    Now, throughout much
    of the recent history of medicine,
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    we've thought about illness and treatment
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    in terms of a profoundly simple model.
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    In fact, the model is so simple
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    that you could summarize it in six words:
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    have disease, take pill, kill something.
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    Now, the reason for
    the dominance of this model
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    is of course the antibiotic revolution.
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    Many of you might not know this,
    but we happen to be celebrating
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    the hundredth year of the introduction
    of antibiotics into the United States,
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    but what you do know
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    is that that introduction
    was nothing short of transformative.
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    Here you had a chemical,
    either from the natural world
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    or artificially synthesized
    in the laboratory,
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    and it would course through your body,
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    it would find its target,
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    lock into its target --
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    a microbe or some part of a microbe --
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    and then turn off a lock and a key
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    with exquisite deftness,
    exquisite specificity,
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    and you would end up taking
    a previously fatal, lethal disease,
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    a pneumonia, syphilis, tuberculosis,
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    and transforming that into a curable,
    or treatable illness.
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    You have a pneumonia,
    you take penicillin,
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    you kill the microbe,
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    and you cure the disease.
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    So seductive was this idea,
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    so potent the metaphor of lock and key
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    and killing something,
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    that it really swept through biology.
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    It was a transformation like no other,
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    and we've really spent the last 100 years
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    trying to replicate that model
    over and over again
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    in noninfectious diseases,
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    in chronic diseases like diabetes
    and hypertension and heart disease.
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    And it's worked,
    but it's only worked partly.
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    Let me show you.
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    You know, if you take the entire universe
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    of all chemical reactions
    in the human body,
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    every chemical reaction
    that your body gets,
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    most people think that that number
    is on the order of a million.
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    Let's call it a million.
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    And now you ask the question,
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    what number or fraction of reactions
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    can actually be targeted
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    by the entire pharmacopia,
    all of medicinal chemistry?
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    That number is 250.
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    The rest is chemical darkness.
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    In other words, 0.025 percent
    of all chemical reactions in your body
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    are actually targetable
    by this lock and key mechanism.
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    You know, if you think about
    human physiology
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    as a vast global telephone network
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    with interacting nodes
    and interacting pieces,
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    then all of our medicinal chemistry
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    is all operating on one tiny corner
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    at the edge, the outer edge,
    of that network.
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    It's like all of our
    pharmaceutical chemistry
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    is a pole operator in Wichita, Kansas
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    who is tinkering with
    about 10 or 15 telephone lines.
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    So what do about this idea?
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    What if we reorganized this approach?
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    In fact, it turns out
    that the natural world
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    gives us a sense of how one
    might think about illness
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    in a radically different way,
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    rather than disease, medicine, target.
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    In fact, the natural world
    is organized hierarchically upwards,
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    not downwards, but upwards,
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    and we begin with a self-regulating,
    semi-autonomous unit called a cell.
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    These self-regulating,
    semi-autonomous units
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    give rise to self-regulating,
    semi-autonomous units called organs,
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    and these organs coalesce
    to form things called humans,
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    and these organisms ultimately live
    in environments,
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    which are partly self-regulating
    and partly semi-autonomous.
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    What's nice about this scheme,
    this hierarchical scheme
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    building upwards rather than downwards
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    is that it allows us to think
    about illness as well
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    in a somewhat different way.
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    Take a disease like cancer.
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    Since the 1950s, we've tried
    rather desperately to apply
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    this lock and key model to cancer.
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    We've tried to kill cells using a variety
    of chemotherapies or targeted therapies,
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    and as most of us know, that's worked.
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    It's worked for diseases like leukemia.
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    It's worked for some forms
    of breast cancer,
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    but eventually you run
    to the ceiling of that approach,
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    and it's only in the last 10 years or so
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    that we've begun to think
    about using the immune system,
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    remembering that in fact the cancer cell
    doesn't grow in a vacuum.
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    It actually grows in a human organism,
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    and could you use the organismal capacity,
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    the fact that human beings
    have an immune system, to attack cancer?
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    In fact, it's led to the some of the most
    spectacular new medicines in cancer.
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    And finally, I mean, there's the level
    of the environment, isn't there.
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    You know, we don't think of cancer
    as altering the environment.
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    Let me give you an example
    of a profoundly carcinogenic environment.
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    It's called a prison.
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    You take loneliness, you take depression,
    you take confinement,
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    and you add to that,
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    rolled up in a little white
    sheet of paper,
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    one of the most potent neurostimulants
    that we know, called nicotine,
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    and you add to that one of the most potent
    addictive substances that you know,
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    and you have a pro-carcinogenic
    environment.
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    But you can have anti-carcinogenic
    environments too.
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    There are attempts to create milieus,
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    change the hormonal milieu
    for breast cancer, for instance.
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    We're trying to change the metabolic
    milieu for other forms of cancer.
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    Or take another disease, like depression.
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    Again, working others,
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    since the 1960s and 1970s,
    we've tried, again, desperately
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    to turn off molecules that operate
    between nerve cells --
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    serotonin, dopamine --
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    and tried to cure depression that way,
    and that's worked,
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    but then that leads to the limit.
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    And we now know that what you
    really probably need to do
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    is to change the physiology
    of the organ, the brain,
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    rewire it, remodel it,
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    and that of course, we know
    study upon study has shown
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    that talk therapy does exactly that,
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    and study upon study has shown
    that talk therapy combined
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    with medicines, pills,
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    really is much more effective
    than either one alone.
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    Can we imagine a more immersive
    environment that will change depression?
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    Can you lock out the signals
    that elicit depression?
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    Again, moving upwards along this
    hierarchical chain of organization.
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    What's really at stake perhaps here
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    is not the medicine itself but a metaphor.
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    Rather than killing something,
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    in the case of the great
    chronic degenerative diseases --
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    kidney failure, diabetes,
    hypertension, osteoarthritis --
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    maybe what we really need to do is change
    the metaphor to growing something.
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    And that's the key, perhaps,
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    to reframing our thinking about medicine.
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    Now, this idea of changing,
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    of creating a perceptual shift,
    as it were,
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    came home to me to roost in a very,
    very personal matter about 10 years ago.
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    About 10 years ago --
    I've been a runner most of my life --
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    I went for a run, a Saturday morning run,
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    I came back and woke up
    and I basically couldn't move.
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    My right knee was swollen up,
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    and you could hear that ominous crunch
    of bone against bone.
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    And one of the perks of being a physician
    is that you get to order your own MRIs.
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    And I had an MRI the next week,
    and it looked like that.
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    Essentially, the meniscus of cartilage
    that is between bone
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    had been completely torn
    and the bone itself had been shattered.
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    Now, if you're looking at me
    and feeling sorry,
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    let me tell you a few facts.
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    If I was to take an MRI
    of every person in this audience,
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    60 percent of you would show signs
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    of bone degeneration
    and cartilage degeneration like this;
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    85 percent of all women by the age of 70
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    would show moderate to severe
    cartilage degeneration;
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    50 to 60 percent of the men in
    this audience would also have such signs.
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    So this is a very common disease.
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    Well, the second perk of being a physician
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    is that you can get to experiment
    on your own ailments.
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    So about 10 years ago we began,
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    we brought this process
    into the laboratory,
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    and we began to do simple experiments,
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    mechanically trying
    to fix this degeneration.
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    We tried to inject chemicals
    into the knee spaces of animals
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    to try to reverse cartilage degeneration,
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    and to put a short summary
    on a very long and painful process,
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    essentially it came to naught.
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    Nothing happened.
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    And then about seven years ago,
    we had a research student from Australia.
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    Now, the nice thing about Australians
    is that they're habitually used
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    to looking at the world upside down,
    and so -- (Laughter) --
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    Dan suggested to me, "You know,
    maybe it isn't a mechanical problem.
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    Maybe it isn't a chemical problem.
    Maybe it's a stem cell problem."
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    In other words, he had two hypotheses.
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    Number one, there is such a thing
    as a skeletal stem cell
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    that builds up the entire
    vertebrate skeleton:
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    bone, cartilage,
    and the fibrous elements of skeleton,
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    just like there's a stem cell in blood,
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    just like there's a stem cell
    in the nervous system,
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    and two, that maybe that, the degeneration
    or dysfunction of this stem cell
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    that is causing osteochondral arthritis,
    a very common ailment.
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    So really the question was,
    were we looking for a pill
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    when we should have really
    been looking for a cell.
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    So we switched our models,
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    and now we began to look
    for skeletal stem cells,
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    and to cut again a long story short,
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    about five years ago,
    we found these cells.
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    They live inside the skeleton.
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    Here's a schematic and then
    a real photograph of one of them.
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    The white stuff is bone,
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    and these red columns that you see
    and the yellow cells
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    are cells that have arisen
    from one single skeleton stem cell,
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    columns of cartilage, columns of bone
    coming out a single cell.
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    These cells are fascinating.
    They have four properties.
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    Number one is that they live
    where they're expected to live.
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    They live just underneath
    the surface of the bone,
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    underneath cartilage.
Title:
Soon we'll cure diseases with a cell, not a pill
Speaker:
Siddhartha Mukherjee
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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
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Duration:
17:31
  • A correction was made to this transcript on 1/15/16.

    At 15:15, the subtitle now reads: "But perhaps what's really at stake are three more intangible M's:"

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