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Are you biased? I am | Kristen Pressner | TEDxBasel

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    Let me just get this out there.
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    I have a bias against women leaders.
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    No one can be more surprised
    about this than me.
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    I'm a woman leader.
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    And on top, I even work
    in human resources,
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    which means it's my job to be unbiased.
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    In fact, I passionately encourage women
    to step into leadership.
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    My poor kids would definitely tell you
    I never stop talking about it.
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    But in spite of my strong belief
    that women make great leaders,
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    I've realized I don't always act like it.
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    Not long ago, within the same week,
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    two members of my team asked me
    to take a look at their compensation.
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    My first reaction to the man's request was
    something like, "Yeah, I'll look into it."
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    My first reaction to the woman's request
    was something like,
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    "I'm pretty sure you're good."
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    Day or so later, I'm sitting at my desk,
    hard at work, and I somehow connected
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    what up until then I'd seen
    as two separate events.
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    I had two very different reactions
    to basically the same request,
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    and I thought, "Huh, what's up with that?
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    Might I be biased and not even know it?"
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    But I know what you're thinking.
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    This is 2016, it's not a topic.
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    Women leaders are everywhere.
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    Maybe you, like me, have personally hired
    or promoted lots of women leaders.
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    But then I thought,
    with all this talk of unconscious bias,
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    might something be going on
    that I'm not even aware of?
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    You know, if it's unconscious and all.
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    For those of you who might not
    already have been inundated with this
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    in the corporate world,
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    it's a simple concept,
    and it's backed up by neuroscience.
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    Our brain has to handle
    way too much information,
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    so in order to manage it all,
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    our brain takes the liberty
    of looking for patterns
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    and filtering for us what it sees
    as the most important bits,
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    like autopilot.
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    Our brains take shortcuts.
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    Without these shortcuts,
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    we'd have to sit and really think through
    way too much information.
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    Imagine if every single time
    you had to think through everything
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    from how to open doors
    to how to shake hands
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    to how to sing "Happy Birthday."
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    But brain shortcuts do have a downside.
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    Because they see patterns
    that are based on the cumulative effect
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    of everything you've been exposed to
    throughout your life,
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    which means the whole thing is happening
    also in the back of our minds,
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    which means we're not even aware
    that it's happening.
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    This can cause us to behave in ways
    that are not true to who we want to be,
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    or how we feel we are,
    and we might not even know it.
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    Unconscious bias sounds kind of clinical,
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    but I looked it up, and other words
    for unconscious are:
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    comatose, paralyzed, or senseless.
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    And other words for bias are bigotry,
    intolerance, and unfairness.
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    That would mean
    we're not just unconsciously biased,
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    we're actually senseless,
    intolerant bigots.
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    (Laughter)
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    So, that's not something I want to be,
    consciously or unconsciously.
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    And here's the scary part:
    most of us think we can outsmart it.
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    We believe it when we say things like,
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    "I don't see race,"
    or "I just hired the best person."
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    It just so happened that at the time
    of the two pay requests,
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    I was doing research on unconscious bias.
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    And the research said
    these are our expectations of men.
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    We expect them to be assertive,
    and strong, and driven.
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    And these are our expectations of women.
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    We expect women to be helpful,
    and sensitive, and supportive.
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    If we were to make it
    a little bit tighter,
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    we see men as taking charge,
    and women as taking care.
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    No, it's not because
    every single one of us is a misogynist.
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    It's simply because men taking charge
    and women taking care
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    is what we've mostly been exposed to
    throughout our lives.
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    And our brains will do the rest,
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    unconsciously redirecting us
    into those patterns that it recognizes.
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    Still feeling like this bias
    couldn't possibly belong to me,
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    one of the words jumped out at me.
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    Wait a minute.
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    Do I see the man as a provider,
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    and so I looked at his pay request
    more seriously?
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    And do I not see the woman as a provider,
    and so I've somehow dismissed her request?
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    In that moment, I had to realize I do.
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    I see men as providers, but not women,
    which is really interesting
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    because I'm the sole financial provider
    for my family of six.
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    My husband is a stay-at-home father
    for our four children.
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    I take charge. And he takes care.
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    I'm the last person I can imagine
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    who could ever have a bias
    against women leaders,
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    and yet I had to realize
    I have a bias against women leaders.
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    I have a bias against myself.
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    And if you're thinking, "Wow, bad on her"
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    (Laughter)
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    unfortunately, I'm not
    the only one with this bias.
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    The research shows that we all
    have a bias against women leaders.
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    We just don't know it.
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    I had both a man and a woman
    ask me for a raise at the same time,
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    so I was confronted
    with my different reactions, real time.
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    And I could notice it when I was
    accidentally treating people differently.
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    Luckily, that happened,
    and I realized in time,
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    but how many times
    have I not caught myself?
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    How many times
    have you not caught yourself?
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    So what's the antidote
    to being a senseless, intolerant bigot
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    toward women leaders or anyone else?
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    It's a big stretch to imagine
    that we'll always have the opportunity
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    to crosscheck our reactions
    with two different people in real life.
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    But I've realized we don't need to.
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    We can do this comparison mentally,
    and it's just as eye opening.
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    Just mentally flip
    whoever you're dealing with
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    for someone else to test yourself.
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    Like here.
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    I made a slight change to this slide.
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    I flipped the photos.
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    Does anything on this slide feel weird?
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    Flip it to test it.
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    If it feels weird,
    you might want to check yourself.
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    The more I tried it,
    the more I saw the value.
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    In fact, there's this Twitter account
    that just flips the gender
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    of things we commonly say,
    and suddenly, they become funny.
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    "Being called a Policewoman
    doesn't bother me at all,
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    because I know it covers
    both women and men."
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    Andrew, Policewoman, age 40.
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    (Laughter)
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    Or let's take my hometown baseball team
    of the Cleveland Indians.
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    Flip it to test it.
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    How would you feel to be up in the stands
    cheering for the Cleveland Caucasians?
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    (Laughter)
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    Now, maybe you're thinking,
    "This doesn't happen to me."
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    And maybe you're right.
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    Maybe you are a superhuman person
    who manages to intercept
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    those brain shortcuts
    at exactly the right moment
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    to ensure you're behaving bias-free
    and consistently with your values,
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    and beliefs, and all of your actions.
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    It could very well be.
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    But what have you got to lose
    to double-check yourself?
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    If we all started to flip it to test it,
    we might just be surprised
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    at how often we would choose
    to behave differently.
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    Because what if you're missing
    an opportunity
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    to see the world differently?
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Are you biased? I am | Kristen Pressner | TEDxBasel
Description:

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx

What do you do when you realize you have a bias, even against yourself? Kristen Pressner is the Global Head of Human Resources at a multinational firm, and a tireless advocate for, and promoter of, women in the workplace. In this enlightening talk, Kristen explores how we can recognize our own hidden, irrational biases - and keep them from limiting us.

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Video Language:
English
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Duration:
08:49

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